Plagiarist DiMarxist is back. No signature ban?

[BlackBoss_]

The user was banned by plagiarism.

Now the user is actively posting again and the profile shows no signature ban.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525774

He again made a low quality post that shows he did not learn and improve in months of ban but why no signature ban?

Three users were unbanned but with signature bans.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477510.0

Nathrixxx is a fourth, and with signature ban too.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5485338.0

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[Oshosondy]

Why not just mention Cyrus to bring this to his notice because I think he is the one in charge of the unbanning of those banned accounts. But I do not think it was a mistake by allowing DiMarxist not to have signature ban after the unban. The signature ban for one user is also different from the two other users, while the signature ban for Nathrixxx is also different, although all are in June.

[JeromeTash]

The admin best knows why he did not impose a signature ban on him. Probably the plagiarism offense wasn't financially motivated, so he just decided to go soft on him. There is nothing much we can do except reporting any of his spammy posts. I think a few more accounts have been unbanned, but we can not know until the Admin updates the list or the unbanned users make posts. From what I have seen, very few unbanned chaps have posted so far, which makes me wonder why some of them appealed against the ban in the first place if they were not going to post in the forum.

[PytagoraZ]

The user was banned by plagiarism.

Now the user is actively posting again and the profile shows no signature ban.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525774

He again made a low quality post that shows he did not learn and improve in months of ban but why no signature ban?

I think admin has considered his decision. After all, this is a second chance for them, honestly I feel sorry for them because of this thread, as if they are still being judged for their past actions. I think let them improve themselves and not make the same mistakes as before.

Regarding quality posts, can you say which posts are low quality? he only posted 5 posts since his account was unbanded by the admin.

[LoyceV]

He again made a low quality post

He earned 182 Merits for 399 posts. That's not bad at all, some people seem to appreciate his posts. I quickly checked his post history, and don't even want to read it. Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

[Ambatman]

Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

Not fully,sometimes it comes as a result of relationship built.

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You said banned for plagiarism
So far the user haven't done that
I believe it's too early to judge since its just around 5 post they have made.
Maybe with time improvement would be notice
This is a second chance,  therefore they would be aware that many eyes are on them to check if the second chance was respected and put to good use.

[BlackBoss_]

He earned 182 Merits for 399 posts. That's not bad at all, some people seem to appreciate his posts. I quickly checked his post history, and don't even want to read it. Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

182 Merits for 399 posts are impressive and it is more impressive before he joined campaign and spammed, plagiarized.

You said banned for plagiarism
So far the user haven't done that

If you can not read, please don't reply. The user was banned by plagiarism, I did not say it but repeat about his ban reason, it is fact about the ban.

Ban Appeal For DiMarxist.

I believe it's too early to judge since its just around 5 post they have made.
Maybe with time improvement would be notice
This is a second chance,  therefore they would be aware that many eyes are on them to check if the second chance was respected and put to good use.

I don't say about second chance is worthy for giving to DiMarxist. I only asked why it is different than four other users, no signature ban.

If it is a mistake, it can be fixed.

[Ambatman]

He earned 182 Merits for 399 posts. That's not bad at all, some people seem to appreciate his posts. I quickly checked his post history, and don't even want to read it. Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

182 Merits for 399 posts are impressive and it is more impressive before he joined campaign and spammed, plagiarized.

You said banned for plagiarism
So far the user haven't done that

If you can not read, please don't reply. The user was banned by plagiarism, I did not say it but it is fact about the ban.

If you don't understand a text don't go all tiger.
I meant he hasn't plagiarised since they came from their ban.

I don't say about second chance is worthy for giving to DiMarxist. I only asked why it is different than four other users, no signature ban.

If it is a mistake, it can be fixed.

If it's just this
Then why create a thread over it and not just bring it to the notice of Cyrus at the second chance thread.
I second Oshosondy thoughts
I don't see how creating the thread is relevant
When there's a better option.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think admin has considered his decision. After all, this is a second chance for them, honestly I feel sorry for them because of this thread, as if they are still being judged for their past actions. I think let them improve themselves and not make the same mistakes as before.

I don't feel bad for anybody who's gotten banned for plagiarism, whether they've been given a second chance by Cyrus or not.  It used to be that there was zero mercy, zero support, and zero chance to get unbanned (with very few exceptions) prior to that generous gift of clemency by Cyrus.  With the issues we're having (or will have) with AI-generated posts, I'm surprised bitcointalk hasn't wound up like that shitty forum Yobit started a few years ago, where nearly everything was plagiarized from this forum or somewhere on the internet.

I don't say about second chance is worthy for giving to DiMarxist. I only asked why it is different than four other users, no signature ban.

I haven't a clue, but frankly I'm glad this thread was started so this can be discussed out in the open.  I'd rather have it that way than just having a PM sent to a moderator or one of the admins.  By the way, LoyceV can read.  Trust me on that one.

[SamReomo]

If such users got a second chance then they should be allowed to improve themselves, improvement doesn't come right away it takes time to improve yourself. Let him do his posting and if he plagiarizes once again then and only then you should report him otherwise I don't think it's worth it to take action against those who were given 2nd chance by Cyrus.

People do learn from their mistakes and once someone learns his/her lesson then that person never repeats it. I have gone to post history of that guy and I don't think that any of his new posts are low in quality. It would be great if you can quote or mention the post that you think does meet the quality standards of this forum?

[DiMarxist]

THIS IS A REVENGE THREAD.

When someone or people hate you, they didn't see anything good then from you and whatever you do is trash for them. @BlackBoss_ can you please provide the low quality posts make again? I know why you created this thread, it is because I am active with quality posts so you are here to blackmail me. It is all enviousness and nothing more. And also you created this thread to make a post count and you BlackBoss_ is one of the spammer in the forum. You create this thread because of our previous encounters.

He taught me about plagiarism when I did not plagiarise and saw what he did.

Also even this your thread Announce your first Bitcoin purchase, Bitcoin acceptance for your business here is a copycat in which you  paraphrase the topic from Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements that makes you feel great!.

I know how you started in the forum. You were creating, shitposts and locking them and making nonsense (Spamming) comments all over the forum. Even this thread is nonsense (Spam) because it has no meaning and value to the forum.
LoyceV I know that, I am in your ignore list for I applying in your merit giving thread and I made a mistake of of submitting a post that contained a link which was against your rules, and I will want you to give your judgement from this comment that I make low quality posts in my return as you said.
The Sceptical Chymist you don't know why this thread is created. It's simply for revenge by the spammer because I attacked him when he was posting nonsense in the forum.
And BlackBoss_ even if I am sleeping and typing, I can't compare myself with you because I am far better than you in all ramifications. Those who are not here to spam the forum would never and ever create a thread that has no value. Just pick out one low quality post I have made as I return to the forum as you said. And I don't need a seer to tell me why you created this thread. Everything is clear. I am not here to make any competition with you but I want your progress in the forum. If you do well, you will help others to grow therefore your good contribution in the forum is needed.
I don't have any issue with anyone but if you want to put me in your mind to monitor me in the forum, I wish you all the best. I am here not because of you but to acquire knowledge to invest in bitcoin. Or is it because of my displayed BTC made you to forget why you are here? And if it is so please go back and read some psychology textbook to motivate yourself like the "Pavlov's dog in Psychology" which salivate whenever it sees food. And probably yours is to Salivate to Bitcoin as motivation.

Pavlov's dog
I am just returning to the forum and make your judgement from here.

DiMarxist

[Fiatless]

I am just returning to the forum and make your judgement from here.

DiMarxist

My candid advice is to move on with your activities on the forum. You have been given a second chance to contribute to the forum and I don't think you should engage in all this drama. BlackBoss_ thinks you should have a signature ban just like other members who were pardoned but fortunately, you don't have such restrictions. The administrators of the forum might have a reason for sparing you, so I suggest you think of ways to justify that you deserve this magnanimity and not come up with counterattacks that will do nothing but tarnish your reputation. The originator of this thread only stated his opinion and I think he has the freedom to do it. I know you also have the right to respond but I think you should just move on.
Could you please reduce the size of your image? Thank you.

[KingsDen]

Now the user is actively posting again and the profile shows no signature ban.

He again made a low quality post that shows he did not learn and improve in months of ban but why no signature ban?

There was much emphasis on signature ban;
If I should ask, do you prefer he should be signature banned or he should turn a good forum user;
I do not think it was a error not Sig banning him;
Maybe he was not wearing signature when he was banned;
Or his plagerism was not monitized;
If someone can get lucky to have a second chance;
They could be lucky not to have signature ban;
The forum is becoming more lenient than the way I met it.
It is a good development;
Since matters are treated or judged on case by case basis.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Let the admin and the moderator decide what to do and what not to do. Unbanned users who got a 2nd chance from the 2nd chance thread got the signature ban because the admin offered them the unban. On the other hand, DiMarxist created an unban appeal thread and he was able to convince the admin or the moderators to unban him without the signature ban.

Since he was able to convince the moderator or the admin that he should be unbanned without the signature ban. He was able to convince them with his forum contribution. It could be his local forum contribution that admins take into account.

[SmartGold01]

He again made a low quality post

He earned 182 Merits for 399 posts. That's not bad at all, some people seem to appreciate his posts. I quickly checked his post history, and don't even want to read it. Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

Post that received merits from local board might not be quality enough for you but within the people that speaks the same language it's quality enough for them, I personally have also developed time to look into other local board where I uses translators to read their post and I see no quality for some profile to receive such merits and grow so quickly. What did was to say maybe it's quality enough for them and besides everyone has their ways of evaluating post in their locals and you could be moved to merits people in your locals more because you clearly comprehend what they are saying.

I think same is what I could find out from the profile you made mentioned, few days ago that profile created a topic that fetches merits in the bitcoin discussion section, and when I read through it that doesn't show as low effort post although any one else can see it as low but to my judgement that is not low and might not improved to everyone standard as we may know because he can't seems to please everyone.

I can take myself for an example, some people don't usually see them as quality and yet while other people judges my post to be quality in their eyes from then I never post to please everyone rather I make sure what I am posting Carry's the information needed and not to please people who walks around looking at how quality someone post should be or not. Quality to me is from how educative someone could be especially in their areas of study's.

[BlackBoss_]

I know how you started in the forum. You were creating, shitposts and locking them and making nonsense (Spamming) comments all over the forum. Even this thread is nonsense (Spam) because it has no meaning and value to the forum.

What a spammer call me a spammer and it's big secret that you can get 192 merit by your shit and spam posts.

[DiMarxist]

What a spammer call me a spammer and it's big secret that you can get 192 merit by your shit and spam posts.

Have you given me 1 merit before? It envy killing over there. Because of your nonsense spamming the forum you're not growing. You are stagnant like a bulldog always envy about other people welfare. You create this thread because I received merit and display my Bitcoins. If I were the Campaign manager Hhampuz, I would not count your posts last week because 80% were shit spamming posts. And you have started your spamming this week again.
Go home and invest in bitcoin and don't depends on campaign money. You are in this forum because of the campaigns and since when you come, you have not contributed anything to the development of the forum instead you are busy looking for people down fall. Whether you are monitor my account, that is not my business. I am here to learn and not because of you. I even do well when I was ban.
@BlackBoss_ go home and relax for like ten months then make an investment plan to develop yourself. Don't depends on the forum campaigns. You are intoxicated by the forum Campaigns therefore you should be removed from campaign. And let those who are calm for the development of the forum should participants in campaigns.

[letteredhub]

I believe it's too early to judge since its just around 5 post they have made.
Maybe with time improvement would be notice
This is a second chance,  therefore they would be aware that many eyes are on them to check if the second chance was respected and put to good use.

I don't say about second chance is worthy for giving to DiMarxist. I only asked why it is different than four other users, no signature ban.

If it is a mistake, it can be fixed.

Maybe it wasn't actually a mistake by whoever that unbanned him and as well extended that mercy to his signature. A prerogative of mercy is usually given at the discretion of the giver and sometimes the reasons could be personal or based on the giver  view towards the offense committed. At times when people receives a kind of  pardon that is too good to be true they should also be very careful and watchful of theirself as they are certain to receiving the hit harder and worst than before if a true repentance is not found in them going forward. I hope @Di Marxist would have learnt his lesson returning back.

[Wiwo]

For someone who has been banned for a while due to plagiarism and now given a second chance to be back on the forum, he may not have an automatic jump start to a quality poster at once,  there is a chance that in the next few pages, we may likely see some low-quality posts in his history before he finally picks up,  it's a normal cycle that he must pass through considering how long he have been off the forum and the nature of his previous offence that got them banned in the first place,  Cyrus with his wealth of experience knows better to have handed him out none signature ban,  second chance it is,  so we have to look away from a few things for a while before taking action against such member if he continues that way by making low-quality posts consistently after this time.

Secondly, I think earning merits from those posts indicates that at least his post makes sense to some other forum members,  that is why they gift him merits,  and in the spirit of support for a fellow forum member who is on a second chance is to correct him as much as you can,  and by the way did you reach out to the so-called member to at least advice him on the quality of his posts after his come back?

If your answer to the above is NO then I think this thread may be uncalled for,  or aimed at further worsening his already bad situationons, what he needs is support and advice but if the member fails to adjust to you may report his posts that you think are low quality, or if you have anything against him you should wait until he breaks one of the forum rules then you can create a thread to discuss that.

Next time this could be sorted out without dragging others into it,  the forum has admins and moderators,  let allow them to do the job instead of forum members turning  themselves into forum judges and in here admin's decision is final because they see what forum members can not see,  

[Little Mouse]

Could this be a local board thing, where too much Merit flows towards posts that aren't objectively high quality?

I dont have data to back this but whenever I have prioritize Full Member and Sr Member account based on earned merits, I was deceived lol. I find most of them write shit when I explore their post history. Some people share merits just because they are their local user. I too share merits on the local topic and I used to prioritize that but as long as they are a quality post.