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February 23, 2024, 07:02:47 PM
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I came across a recent topic where the op was saying over 80% of gamblers gamble to make money and I had to have a dip thought on that and was curious as to know if there are possibilities that people gamble just for the sake of answering the name gambler?
Nearly eighty percentage of the gamblers are doing gambling for the money making.
From my opinion, I think there isn’t any need to stake or risk one’s money on a game simply because you want to catch fun when you could simply not risk your money and still have fun while watching same game.
I don’t know if I’m really staying my points well but I wish to know if people really have to gamble without intentions of making money?
whosoever told you that is correct. The bottom line to why we all gamble is that we could make some profits in as much as we also catch the fun that comes with the activity. I am not sure anyone would pick interest in gamble for the sole aim of answering a gambler as I don't see the prestige and honour attached to the name gambler in any society of the world.

Catching the fin as a spectator is quite different from when you're an intrinsic part of the game. I am sure all gamblers' here can attest to how they feel different with the fun when they are taking action on the games from when they probably just followed a colleague to the gamble house just to keep company on a certain day they wish not to gamble. It's an experience you don't need to be told.
It is very funny how the truth is always very difficult to admit even when it is obvious and that’s a typical example of pride and in most cases I think a lot of people are already getting a lot of things very wrong not to insert that that these casinos are here to make money and those money comes from ours losses and why are we shy to boldly say I’m into gambling for money ?
I personally believe the first target of a gambler is to make profit while having fun but also at some point, most gamblers bet even without getting to watch the match and still get all the joy and fun as long as their ticket is getting through but I think the fun when making money and enjoying a game is second to none.

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February 23, 2024, 07:08:24 PM
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Most people are usually like that they gamble to make money and I think the percentage is greater than just for fun. This doesn't mean that people who enjoying gambling don't want to make a profit, but rather that they have fun while looking for a profit.
Actually, gambling can make money if you can use it well and use accurate skills, but yes, this is not easy because most people experience losses even though they have used their skills, so to be honest, most people bet to make money under the pretext of just having fun.
Trying to make money in gambling is not unreasonable. But not everyone can earn money form it. Those who choose gambling only to make money may rather lose their wealth in gambling. A gambler should gamble with the assumption that he will lose. Money can be earned from gambling but there is no guarantee so the gambler must take risks. No matter how experience a gambler or skill full, he can never be sure when he will win or whether he will win. If gambling is considered part of entertainment then gambling is not a problem.

It's like this, particularly things when it comes to gambling are very different depending on the needs of the person, generally the player will always claim that he wants to make money, that's normal, I don't dispute it, I think we all want to make money, no. There are doubts about that, but you have to know how to play in a casino if we want to win money, the first thing we must accept is that in a casino it is very common to lose, losing can be for many the worst thing but it is something that is common in casinos. It seems normal because casinos are businesses, companies where they have to ensure their profits, and that is why there is a lot of talk about the topic of the house edge, it is not for any reason, it has its reason for being, and you don't know how It is known that we, as good players, must mature that knowledge so that it does not take us by surprise when playing.

Continuing with this, many peons do play out of necessity, because they need to cover their expenses and needs, and sometimes they resort to the casino, which does not seem appropriate to me, for example in 2021 during the pandemic, things focused a lot on the online jobs and about casinos, because many people chose to try their luck with casinos to see if they could win some money, some did, others were not so lucky and lost, but I will always recommend that you do not play out of necessity, first to play for fun and to have a different time, because it can be very dangerous to risk our money, our assets and then lose it, that is something I would not wish on anyone.

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February 23, 2024, 07:14:34 PM
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I came across a recent topic where the op was saying over 80% of gamblers gamble to make money and I had to have a dip thought on that and was curious as to know if there are possibilities that people gamble just for the sake of answering the name gambler?
Nearly eighty percentage of the gamblers are doing gambling for the money making.
From my opinion, I think there isn’t any need to stake or risk one’s money on a game simply because you want to catch fun when you could simply not risk your money and still have fun while watching same game.
I don’t know if I’m really staying my points well but I wish to know if people really have to gamble without intentions of making money?

Unless we want to lie to ourselves and pretend under the umbrella of gambling fun, everyone is guilty of gambling for money. In my country where even the women has now resort to gambling like it's the new way of employment, they gamble to make money because they believe that with consistency, they are going to win a mega odd that will help them return their loss and huge amount of profit and they actually do make the money and the fun of such gambling is that they use small amount they can lose so they don't regret later.

Everyone gamble to make money but not everyone gamble for fun, there are people that actually gamble for the fun of it but they are only few that does that, thw rest even on this forum do it for the money, there is nothing to be ashame of it because the gambling platforms are coming here to take away the money investors have here and you can't tell they are making a lot here that's why even after many years, there announcement thread is active and always open to help out anyone with problem on their platform, it's pure business for profits.

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February 23, 2024, 07:14:47 PM
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I came across a recent topic where the op was saying over 80% of gamblers gamble to make money and I had to have a dip thought on that and was curious as to know if there are possibilities that people gamble just for the sake of answering the name gambler?
Nearly eighty percentage of the gamblers are doing gambling for the money making.
From my opinion, I think there isn’t any need to stake or risk one’s money on a game simply because you want to catch fun when you could simply not risk your money and still have fun while watching same game.
I don’t know if I’m really staying my points well but I wish to know if people really have to gamble without intentions of making money?
whosoever told you that is correct. The bottom line to why we all gamble is that we could make some profits in as much as we also catch the fun that comes with the activity. I am not sure anyone would pick interest in gamble for the sole aim of answering a gambler as I don't see the prestige and honour attached to the name gambler in any society of the world.

Catching the fin as a spectator is quite different from when you're an intrinsic part of the game. I am sure all gamblers' here can attest to how they feel different with the fun when they are taking action on the games from when they probably just followed a colleague to the gamble house just to keep company on a certain day they wish not to gamble. It's an experience you don't need to be told.
It is very funny how the truth is always very difficult to admit even when it is obvious and that’s a typical example of pride and in most cases I think a lot of people are already getting a lot of things very wrong not to insert that that these casinos are here to make money and those money comes from ours losses and why are we shy to boldly say I’m into gambling for money ?
I personally believe the first target of a gambler is to make profit while having fun but also at some point, most gamblers bet even without getting to watch the match and still get all the joy and fun as long as their ticket is getting through but I think the fun when making money and enjoying a game is second to none.
The truth being difficult to admit in what context as I don't get. Obviously the casinos are absolutely created for making profits and that's their motivation to stay on in the competitive  business environment but this is not same for the gambler who might have two different opinions on why he is into gambling and you can't be so quick to accuse anyone of not admitting a truth if they chose to be on the side of those gamblers that gamble for the fun and entertainment they enjoy from the games, while others priority could be to make profit even if they are not having fun. Our priorities could be different as gamblers but that of the casinos remain same and unchanged.

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February 23, 2024, 07:30:01 PM
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It is very funny how the truth is always very difficult to admit even when it is obvious and that’s a typical example of pride and in most cases I think a lot of people are already getting a lot of things very wrong not to insert that that these casinos are here to make money and those money comes from ours losses and why are we shy to boldly say I’m into gambling for money ?

The truth being difficult to admit in what context as I don't get. Obviously the casinos are absolutely created for making profits and that's their motivation to stay on in the competitive  business environment but this is not same for the gambler who might have two different opinions on why he is into gambling and you can't be so quick to accuse anyone of not admitting a truth if they chose to be on the side of those gamblers that gamble for the fun and entertainment they enjoy from the games, while others priority could be to make profit even if they are not having fun. Our priorities could be different as gamblers but that of the casinos remain same and unchanged.
I’m not against people gambling basically for fun but meh I don’t know how they possibly do this but my problem are for those who aren’t sincere with why they gamble and simply follow those who claim they gamble for fun simply because they don’t want to looked at negatively.
If you’ve gone through the thread you’ll understand that I’ve been speaking for myself here as I believe everyone is responsible for their opinion and there isn’t any need to argue what others believe as we all have our different opinions on a particular subject matter which gambling isn’t exempted.

There are several other games one can still engage with without getting to gamble and risking their hard earned money and maybe we should see my post more like a wake up call to remind people that these casinos are in for making money and we should be conscious of every decision and actions we take and make on their platforms rather than just mere fun.

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February 23, 2024, 09:22:19 PM
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The truth being difficult to admit in what context as I don't get. Obviously the casinos are absolutely created for making profits and that's their motivation to stay on in the competitive  business environment but this is not same for the gambler who might have two different opinions on why he is into gambling and you can't be so quick to accuse anyone of not admitting a truth if they chose to be on the side of those gamblers that gamble for the fun and entertainment they enjoy from the games, while others priority could be to make profit even if they are not having fun. Our priorities could be different as gamblers but that of the casinos remain same and unchanged.
There are surely varied motivations behind gambling which distinguish between those who do it for entertainment and enjoyment versus those who prioritize making a profit. People engage in gambling for diverse reasons, and not all are solely driven by the desire to make money. Indeed, many people view gambling as a form of entertainment, similar to going to the movies or attending a sporting event. They enjoy the thrill of the games, the social aspect of being in a casino, or the challenge of testing their luck. For them, the primary motivation is not financial gain but rather the experience itself.

There are people who see gambling as a means to make a profit that treats it more like an investment or business venture. They may employ strategies, study odds, or focus on certain games where they believe they have an edge. Their priority is on maximizing returns, even if it means sacrificing some of the enjoyment typically associated with gambling.

Despite these differing motivations among gamblers, casinos are indeed profit-driven enterprises. Their primary goal is to generate revenue, and they employ various tactics to ensure that they remain profitable in a competitive market. Understanding these distinctions is important in discussions surrounding gambling, because it implies the complexity of human behavior and motivations.

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Most people are usually like that they gamble to make money and I think the percentage is greater than just for fun. This doesn't mean that people who enjoying gambling don't want to make a profit, but rather that they have fun while looking for a profit.
Actually, gambling can make money if you can use it well and use accurate skills, but yes, this is not easy because most people experience losses even though they have used their skills, so to be honest, most people bet to make money under the pretext of just having fun.

It's true that there are two types of gambling: fun and profitable. Although the two aren't incompatible, I believe it's critical to understand the distinction between the two as your reasons for gambling might influence how you approach the game. A person who gambles for entertainment purposes, for instance, is probably going to stick to their spending limit and make more sensible decisions than a person who is gambling for profit, who is probably going to take more chances and pursue their losses.

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February 23, 2024, 09:52:39 PM
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It is very funny how the truth is always very difficult to admit even when it is obvious and that’s a typical example of pride and in most cases I think a lot of people are already getting a lot of things very wrong not to insert that that these casinos are here to make money and those money comes from ours losses and why are we shy to boldly say I’m into gambling for money ?
I personally believe the first target of a gambler is to make profit while having fun but also at some point, most gamblers bet even without getting to watch the match and still get all the joy and fun as long as their ticket is getting through but I think the fun when making money and enjoying a game is second to none.
The truth being difficult to admit in what context as I don't get. Obviously the casinos are absolutely created for making profits and that's their motivation to stay on in the competitive  business environment but this is not same for the gambler who might have two different opinions on why he is into gambling and you can't be so quick to accuse anyone of not admitting a truth if they chose to be on the side of those gamblers that gamble for the fun and entertainment they enjoy from the games, while others priority could be to make profit even if they are not having fun. Our priorities could be different as gamblers but that of the casinos remain same and unchanged.

One of the things that allows casinos to survive so far is because there is a huge profit that they get from many gamblers who lose and obviously most of them are gamblers  who always go overboard in treating their gambling activities, on the other hand, we may have often heard that overall the real victory is only for casinos because most gamblers always suffer a losing amount which basically happens slowly and sometimes they don't realize it.

The point is that the purpose of casinos is for their own profit and you've already said that this is a profitable business for casinos and that means that gamblers will never be able to make a living from this activity which is basically nothing more than a probability activity that only provides "possibilities" and not a definite reality. On the other hand that doesn't mean that pleasure gamblers won't accept winnings, pleasure is just an idea so that you don't take gambling too seriously and it's clear that if you have a goal to earn then surely you will do everything you can to earn, while on the other hand there is absolutely no certainty and as already said that the purpose of establishing casinos is for their own profit because this is a business that hides behind "chance". On the other hand as you said and I agree with that we  cannot simply conclude that all gamblers come to earn, because there are always some gamblers who come with the right understanding that in the end they have the recommended approach to gambling.

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 #169

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Most people are usually like that they gamble to make money and I think the percentage is greater than just for fun. This doesn't mean that people who enjoying gambling don't want to make a profit, but rather that they have fun while looking for a profit.
Actually, gambling can make money if you can use it well and use accurate skills, but yes, this is not easy because most people experience losses even though they have used their skills, so to be honest, most people bet to make money under the pretext of just having fun.

It's true that there are two types of gambling: fun and profitable. Although the two aren't incompatible, I believe it's critical to understand the distinction between the two as your reasons for gambling might influence how you approach the game. A person who gambles for entertainment purposes, for instance, is probably going to stick to their spending limit and make more sensible decisions than a person who is gambling for profit, who is probably going to take more chances and pursue their losses.

If a gambler will understand what is his real intentions why he is into gambling and keep his promise to himself the extent of how he will play his games, he won't subject himself to potential trouble of gambling. But the reality is not many gamblers can stick to their targets, especially when he is enjoying his games and don't want to stop.

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The majority of people gamble to make a profit fast from winning from gambling. And few percent of people play for fun and many of them convert from fun to earning and finally, they become addicted to gambling.
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The majority of people gamble to make a profit fast from winning from gambling. And few percent of people play for fun and many of them convert from fun to earning and finally, they become addicted to gambling.
hahahaha I want to deny that sentence but that is the fact in the polarization of some gambling addicts, most of them want to benefit from gambling because they see or have earned money easily from gambling, even up to thousands of times, so they try it or continue to search for luck from gambling, yes including people who have fun too, they do excessive gambling, chase losses and eventually become true gambling addicts who every week or even every day spend their money on gambling and have hopes that it will be the last gambling for them to get bigger money.

I wanted to laugh at them, but was afraid of sinning. LOL

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February 26, 2024, 07:40:42 AM
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Haha, you can`t address people who don’t gamble for money as crazy. Yes, it is possible to gamble without the aim of making money. Even though conventionally, gambling is often associated with winning money or other material goods, there are instances where individuals engage in gambling activities without the primary goal of making money. Gambling can serve as a social activity where friends or family members come together to enjoy each other’s company while participating in games like poker or bingo. The camaraderie and shared experience can be more important than any monetary winnings. For instance, a group of friends gathers regularly for a game of poker, using chips instead of real money. The focus is on friendly competition and spending time together rather than monetary rewards.
Even if someone doesn't gamble with friends and family members considering a social activity, there are still people who don't gamble only for monetary gains even if they don't deny that monetary gains are good and useful and they are the reason why the experience becomes fun.

Of course, no one gambles only to lose and says that they find it fun to lose all the time, that would be a lie if someone says that, but when someone says that they gamble for fun, it means that they find the experience fun and they don't push their limits to win some money at any cost even if they have to lose all their money in trying to pursue those profits.

Gambling for fun doesn't mean that the gambler doesn't enjoy their winnings, it's just that they don't overspend and find the experience fun while it lasts.

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Gambling for fun doesn't mean that the gambler doesn't enjoy their winnings, it's just that they don't overspend and find the experience fun while it lasts.
it's very difficult to do it like that. because in the brains of gambling players, especially beginners. they consider gambling to get more profits or you could say to double their money.
so they will have fun if they win, and be very sad if they lose. So there is no longer any such thing as having fun gambling even if you lose.

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Of course, many people want to win a lot of money and believe that this will certainly happen and they will win so much that their grandchildren will have it. But it is precisely from such players with such fantastic thoughts that gambling establishments make money. Without risk, it is impossible to win huge sums, unless we bet on many events and guess the winners in these matches, but this will be real luck, which only happens with a very small number of players. So to a large extent, the OP's statement is true. As a matter of fact, this is all that gambling houses need so that players risk large sums of money every time, and the whole business is built on this.

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The majority of people gamble to make a profit fast from winning from gambling. And few percent of people play for fun and many of them convert from fun to earning and finally, they become addicted to gambling.
What you say is right. Many people change their habits from gambling to having fun to trying to make money. And yes, they become addicted to gambling when they're back at the casino too often. They want to make a profit from gambling, but unfortunately, they can't always get it.

When they use more money, they will have a chance to lose that money, especially if they lose self-control playing gambling. They risk their money to try to win, but they don't remember that winning gambling is difficult. They need to realize the fact so they don't try so hard playing gambling.

It needs to be awareness not to risk too much money to play gambling. They also need to consider luck matters that will not always come when they play.

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Of course, many people want to win a lot of money and believe that this will certainly happen and they will win so much that their grandchildren will have it. But it is precisely from such players with such fantastic thoughts that gambling establishments make money. Without risk, it is impossible to win huge sums, unless we bet on many events and guess the winners in these matches, but this will be real luck, which only happens with a very small number of players. So to a large extent, the OP's statement is true. As a matter of fact, this is all that gambling houses need so that players risk large sums of money every time, and the whole business is built on this.
Gamble is just another option to all gamblers it's up to you for making your own choices on what to do with it, I mostly gamble for profits but not addicted same time I risk what I can afford to lose and other gamblers gamble for entertainment because they needs something to entertain themselves with. It's funny how people get addicted to things, as a gambler who's chasing loses you are risking your career as well, because you won't get what you are looking forward to get. If you risk you also think of winning and you might not win because you are chasing your losses. your mindset of winning a bet shouldn't be more than %20.

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I came across a recent topic where the op was saying over 80% of gamblers gamble to make money and I had to have a dip thought on that and was curious as to know if there are possibilities that people gamble just for the sake of answering the name gambler?
Nearly eighty percentage of the gamblers are doing gambling for the money making.
From my opinion, I think there isn’t any need to stake or risk one’s money on a game simply because you want to catch fun when you could simply not risk your money and still have fun while watching same game.
I don’t know if I’m really staying my points well but I wish to know if people really have to gamble without intentions of making money?

            -   You know, mate, all gamblers who enter the casino are really risk-takers; all of them are ready to lose their bets in the casino. Because if they are not ready to lose, they will not even waste time depositing money on a gambling platform.

That's why casino players in any field of the gambling business are called gamblers. And then they expect that kind of defeat from a casino mate, because often gamblers in the gambling field are losers.

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February 26, 2024, 01:09:51 PM
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I came across a recent topic where the op was saying over 80% of gamblers gamble to make money and I had to have a dip thought on that and was curious as to know if there are possibilities that people gamble just for the sake of answering the name gambler?
Nearly eighty percentage of the gamblers are doing gambling for the money making.
From my opinion, I think there isn’t any need to stake or risk one’s money on a game simply because you want to catch fun when you could simply not risk your money and still have fun while watching same game.
I don’t know if I’m really staying my points well but I wish to know if people really have to gamble without intentions of making money?

            -   You know, mate, all gamblers who enter the casino are really risk-takers; all of them are ready to lose their bets in the casino. Because if they are not ready to lose, they will not even waste time depositing money on a gambling platform.

That's why casino players in any field of the gambling business are called gamblers. And then they expect that kind of defeat from a casino mate, because often gamblers in the gambling field are losers.
I strongly agree with that. Most gamblers lose, maybe that 80 percent is actually low, it could be 85-90 percent.
We are greedy, that's the natural behavior of a human. We want high multipliers even if it is in sports gambling so we do parlays to increase the profit as much as possible in just one low bet. But the risk gets higher and that's the reason why most of us are losers.

And I do agree with what OP said that we can still have fun watching the game without a bet. But if you start placing bets with sports and then watch them, the next you don't put any money on the line, the game becomes boring. Try it and I bet you will just do other things even if a good play is happening or the game is crucial. Unlike when you know you have money on the line, you will probably glue your eyes to the game and you don't want to miss anything, even a single call by the referee where you will react like you are part of the team.
That's the additional spice that is being given by betting on sports, it adds more excitement to the game.

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February 26, 2024, 01:24:30 PM
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            -   You know, mate, all gamblers who enter the casino are really risk-takers; all of them are ready to lose their bets in the casino. Because if they are not ready to lose, they will not even waste time depositing money on a gambling platform.

That's the reality non-gamblers in real life would not understand. We are risk-takers; we know that we can lose our money, but we still try for a chance to grow our money. That's why it's always advised to limit gambling because of the fact that we lose more than we win, at least for most of us.


That's why casino players in any field of the gambling business are called gamblers. And then they expect that kind of defeat from a casino mate, because often gamblers in the gambling field are losers.

Losing is already a possibility. However, since we are gamblers and we love this kind of challenge, we are willing to risk, even if we lose. Most of us do not keep a record of our losses, so we will not feel that we are losing overall. Sometimes we hit, and that would be a big achievement on our part. It makes us happy and more inspired in gambling as we were able to conclude that it's not impossible to win. The word "limit" is just too important; we follow that, and we will last longer.

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February 26, 2024, 01:41:37 PM
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Of course, many people want to win a lot of money and believe that this will certainly happen and they will win so much that their grandchildren will have it. But it is precisely from such players with such fantastic thoughts that gambling establishments make money. Without risk, it is impossible to win huge sums, unless we bet on many events and guess the winners in these matches, but this will be real luck, which only happens with a very small number of players. So to a large extent, the OP's statement is true. As a matter of fact, this is all that gambling houses need so that players risk large sums of money every time, and the whole business is built on this.
Gamble is just another option to all gamblers it's up to you for making your own choices on what to do with it, I mostly gamble for profits but not addicted same time I risk what I can afford to lose and other gamblers gamble for entertainment because they needs something to entertain themselves with. It's funny how people get addicted to things, as a gambler who's chasing loses you are risking your career as well, because you won't get what you are looking forward to get. If you risk you also think of winning and you might not win because you are chasing your losses. your mindset of winning a bet shouldn't be more than %20.
Gambling is used by people in different fields but everyone's objective is to win because winning is always fun.  When someone plays games without gambling, they still try to win the game. because losing is never fun. And when one gambles, one must take the risk of gambling because no matter how much a gambler is addicted to gambling, even if they have the desire to win big, they also know that they can lose in gambling. so everyone must have to accept the gambling risk



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