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February 17, 2024, 09:39:35 PM
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If they have an option to not disclose their personal identity, why they need to publicize it to everyone else? Huh

When you want to open a banks account, the banks' employees will ask you to submit your ID card and other personal information, do you ask their identity? I bet you not.

I think it's a stupid question, if you don't comfortable or don't like to submit KYC without know the owner's identity, don't gamble on that casino.

This is an example that doesn't make any sense for the following reasons:

1 - ) in all banks in my country for example and I believe this happens in banks in other countries, bank employees are easily identifiable people, they show their face, their full name at the counter when they ask for ID of people, perhaps you may not have paid close attention when you went to open a bank account, but if you didn't pay that attention, try going to one of the banks in your country to ask for information and you will see that the bank employees are showing their faces and there is a very visible document on their neck showing their name, this is so that when a customer has a complaint about the way they were treated during service they can complain to the central bank

2 - ) in every country in the world, companies are duly registered, and all anyone needs to do is research the company to find out who the owners of the company are and in the case of banks, it is even easier to know who the owner of the bank is, because Banks are very regulated, they are very serious institutions, so the owners are not anonymous. In the same way as most physical companies, all owners have a name and face, see the case of physical casinos, they have owners who show faces and the reason is very simple: the owners do not need to hide because they are regulated, they have a license and all other documents. and when I talk about leave, I'm talking about respectable parental leave where the law works well



In the past I asked a lot of questions like this, because people had to do kyc on sites where the owners are anonymous, it was and continues to be something that I can't understand because it doesn't make any sense. If someone uses a money laundering argument, it doesn't make sense that only customers would launder money and the creator of the casino would not use the casino to launder money. but as arguing about this wouldn't get me anywhere, so I gave up, because this is the fault of the governments that imposed kyc without first creating fair laws

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February 17, 2024, 10:34:11 PM
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

The casino team identity was hidden by the many gambling site,it may be due to their security.But we can’t blame all the websites because they hide their own identities.Some scam gambling site also doing this to get away from the legal issues after they scam the users from the countries around the world.We know many gambling site was get into the hacking of the crypto wallet,many of the gambling site was based on the crypto currency now.For the security reasons many gambling site may hide their name towards the society,to some people this seems more wired.But actually it is not the questionable one.

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February 17, 2024, 10:40:46 PM
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Stake owners are actually somewhat known.
They were also running primedice before founding stake. Well if a casino owner can find a safe jurisdiction for his well being I don't see why he should be in hiding.

I think often casino owners are afraid of going to jail or having their belongings confiscated because of unlicensed gambling being a crime in their jurisdiction. Seals with clubs had this issue in its early days in 2015 and had to change many things to remain safe from police... It's a very weird world for police to be hunting down website operators other than real violent criminals.

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February 17, 2024, 10:43:49 PM
Last edit: February 17, 2024, 11:10:59 PM by erep
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The casino team identity was hidden by the many gambling site,it may be due to their security.But we can’t blame all the websites because they hide their own identities.Some scam gambling site also doing this to get away from the legal issues after they scam the users from the countries around the world.We know many gambling site was get into the hacking of the crypto wallet,many of the gambling site was based on the crypto currency now.For the security reasons many gambling site may hide their name towards the society,to some people this seems more wired.But actually it is not the questionable one.

We need to know about the team members, even though they don't publish detailed team member data, some casinos that already have licenses with related parties should be able to publish photos and brief identities of the team so that users can find out the casino team profile, but I think they will still hide their identities but the casino scams can profit from anonymous teams, they will cheat customers and gamblers cannot sue fake casinos because they do not know the identity of the casino team, so we should focus on gambling in popular crypto casinos to avoid casino scams that cause losses to your account balance.
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February 17, 2024, 11:04:00 PM
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
Some casinos have been very upfront with the identity of their core team, Stake being one of the biggest examples of this. But even though some casinos prefer to not show up or reveal themselves to the public, I don't think that's grounds for doubt and suspicion because let's be real here, knowing about the identity of your casino's CEO should be the least of your worries when there are more "out there" problems and issues you may experience.

One of the biggest "out there" issues you would experience before you even start to think about being so interested about your current casino of choice's CEO or core team's identity is how you should manage your gambling behavior. Some of us here (and let's be real here my friends) do not deserve to get into an online casino the way they carry themselves when they gamble. With that in mind do you think the core team's to blame for that or whatever? Personally I don't.

I don't wanna sound like I'm dickriding on keeping the Casino's Team's identity or whatever, since in any case I'd be more at ease with a casino that goes out there to really show that they are for transparency, but this industry's vile and weird and creepy at its darkest and I don't think people should just have access to anybody's info in here, especially if they work directly for the casino.

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February 17, 2024, 11:10:54 PM
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Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I think casinos has refuse to expose the name of any of their team members for security reasons because a few times we could think of how much the casino make and think if we are behind the casinos machine or the algorithm upon which the platform is been  run we could make more money but unknown to them.

Kyc for most casinos are Strictly for their customers and for security reasons they would not want to expose the identity of their team because a few persons may want to think that by getting to know these team members they could get rich by milking the casinos but unknown to the. That some of the casino is automated and the algorithm is independent of the regulators, so basically I think for security reasons most casinos will not be allowed to unvail their team members just like that actually

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February 17, 2024, 11:12:06 PM
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You or forum members aren't the eligible party to ask them KYC. They have doxxed the team with a license provider depending on the requirements.
To some extent,  we as forum member do not have the moral right to discuss anything as regards to KYC how much more than asking the casino team to prove their identity,  this is because as bitcointalk members we exist based on our user names and at that we are privacy conscious.

By asking casino teams to expose the identity may be acting a little out of proportion which at most will not lead to anything good in the long run.

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February 17, 2024, 11:53:30 PM
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Maybe they chose to remain anonymous to operate seamlessly or so that non of their worker and founder will be track but still I am wondering why they still collect personal document from player without them revealing their identity to the community, usually when a projects comes up we do find their real name on the whitepaper or onepager where all brief and concise information about a particular project are being documented to enable investor have full confident of the project they venturing to.
Please have you check on their whitepaper before they are not mentioned there at op?

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February 18, 2024, 12:42:19 AM
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Identity of the casino team will never be revealed, even in offline casinos or physical casinos where we can directly meet face to face with the team or casino workers and they are not necessarily willing to provide detailed personal identities.
Maybe the casino team service is what should be prioritized but there are some exceptions that are given to customers, if that all then it is clear that certain people can have this service.
In gambling, everything will run anonymously, but perhaps there is deep reason for this, such as when customer feels cheated, it is clear that he will look for team or casino worker easily when he knows his identity and maybe something bad will happen.
This is why there will never be such thing as disclosure of personal identity for any casino team member or employee.

I myself, with various experiences in gambling, have never once known of casino that freely provides information regarding the identity of the team they own.
Maybe customers are required to provide KYC but this can never be applied by the casino team to customers, this doesn't make sense and I never thought I could get service like this.
Besides I don't really care about their identity, as long as they provide comfort, security and good service then that is more than enough.

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February 18, 2024, 08:43:34 AM
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I didn't think about it because it was their secret. We are also the same when we choose a casino where we also have to check each casino and make sure it is the casino we want. We won't know who the casino owners are because they don't say it either and we probably only know their representatives on these forums. If it is a trusted casino, we don't need to think about this and just use the casino to gamble. We as users will also find it difficult to find out the casino owner's or team's identity unless we contact the regulator to ask who they are, but the regulator will not want to say who they are.

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Casinos usually keep their team members' identities on the down-low maybe to keep things secure and avoid any unwanted attention. It's like a safety thing because this way owners and employees can do their thing without exposing themselves to potential risks. While being open about certain aspects is good like fair play and rules, they often choose to play it cool when it comes to personal details like striking a balance between transparency and keeping everything on the hush for a smooth gaming experience

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February 18, 2024, 09:27:42 AM
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As you mentioned the issue of presenting information about casino managers to the public, I think that there are two points that we must consider, which are the positives and negatives.

-Positives :
 -Gain the confidence of the players more and make them play more comfortably.
-Make the casino more transparent and receive more players.
-Negatives:
-Casino managers put themselves in danger because players obtaining information about them makes them vulnerable to blackmail and threats, for example, if one of them loses his money.
-Even families, friends and relatives will be at risk.
-They will always be under pressure because everyone will try to reach them personally if they want help.
-Some will try to delve into the details of the information for nefarious purposes such as hacking and sabotaging the casino.

As you see there's risks and negative things than positive things soI think hiding their personal information is the right thing to do.

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February 18, 2024, 09:43:15 AM
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The identity of a casino's team is something we rarely across in our forum even though we have like hundreds of announcement topics in this section, promoting services, gambling games and tournaments. This act typically comes around professionalism and hospitality to provide a special customer service. Showing friendliness.and deep understanding of the games offered. Team members may also be a comfortable addition to players here.

Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

You seem to be misrepresenting what information is being shared and with who. Owners of a casino are often identifiable through company records which are often shared publicly in many countries, in order to aid transparency. The other employees of a casino have just as much right to privacy in their place of work as any other job, the most you might hope to see broadcast is their first name on a badge if they are in front of house positions. All employees will be vetted by the company, to make sure that they follow all necessary employment and right to work laws in their country, which can be validated by the government on request. Beyond that, your personal details are not broadcast for all to see, so I'm not sure why you would expect employees to have theirs shared like that either. You are not forced to play at these gambling sites, don't act like you are.

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February 18, 2024, 10:18:21 AM
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All we know is that the owner of the stake.com casino is already known and exposed by several media because he is famous for the progress of his casino but for other casinos I have never seen that process.

There is a reason behind all that why the identity of the casino owner does not carry out the process publicly, but to get a casino license will not the owner give it? Here we understand that the authority has pocketed their KYC proof after registering the casino for licensing.

But it also makes sense that even if the identity of their team is not known to their customers, they still run a good casino? Even if they are having problems, it is the authorities who can reveal this and we will never know what is behind it all.

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February 18, 2024, 10:33:17 AM
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All we know is that the owner of the stake.com casino is already known and exposed by several media because he is famous for the progress of his casino but for other casinos I have never seen that process.

There is a reason behind all that why the identity of the casino owner does not carry out the process publicly, but to get a casino license will not the owner give it? Here we understand that the authority has pocketed their KYC proof after registering the casino for licensing.
When a casino applies for a license, they have to submit all the necessary requirements. This includes the names of the casino owners, their officers, and all other vital information for the operation. I'm not sure about the specific requirements that a license provider demands, but all the information I mentioned is typically considered basic and necessary for the approval process.

But it also makes sense that even if the identity of their team is not known to their customers, they still run a good casino? Even if they are having problems, it is the authorities who can reveal this and we will never know what is behind it all.
It might not be known to them, but when the authorities do find out, they can request information from the license providers to check if this casino has any complaints to address. Therefore, it's not a problem if their names are not known as long as their casino maintains a good reputation.

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February 18, 2024, 11:12:12 AM
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I believe that there are reasons why casino owners or developers are not named. It can be privacy, security, and anonymity. I know that there are a couple of casinos that are famous and owned by the same group of people and probably they don't want to look at how they are competing with each other.

       -     And whatever that reason is, I don't think it's that important to know that, right? Because the important thing is the services, and there are no issues happening on their platform from their users, who often play gambling on their platform.

Is that a big deal to you, mate? But you know that it has a good reputation in the field of crypto gambling, and you have been making it play in their casino for several years. Of course you will be complacent about that because you trust the casino, right?

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February 18, 2024, 11:33:41 AM
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Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?
I assume this is due to the legality of cryptocasinos in the jurisdiction in which they are located. And also with tax evasion. Legally, casino owners may be front men, while the real owner may remain in the shadows. I think this is also due to the fact that there are no legal regulations forcing cryptocasinos to disclose information about "of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino". In fact, in my opinion, cryptocasinos are in a legal gray area. This entire current situation allows cryptocasinos to organize exit-scams and casino owners disappear with impunity with gambler's money. This escape route is a good incentive not to reveal the casino team.

There is a clear imbalance: the casino demands KYC from you, while they themselves remain “invisible” to the gamblers. Although, in fact, gamblers are at greater risk than casinos. Gamblers won’t run away with casino money in an unknown direction, right?

I think this way: if a casino demands KYC from me, then let it first provide information about the team so that I can be confident in their reliability. But as we all know, this is not and will not happen.

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February 18, 2024, 02:46:07 PM
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Till this day I didn't see any casino revealing the identity of their team, owners, employers and responsibles of the casino even though players are required to pass a KYC process for their identity, so I'm wondering have you ever thought about this too? and the reasons why most casinos are not doing this process?

It's not about double standard but if you're a casino operator are you comfortable posting your profile on your casino homepage, I know of someone in our place who run a horse racing betting station, he uses a dummy to run the operation, and the reasons are he don't want people looking at him when he goes to church, he doesn't parents cursing his name because their husbands lose their money in his betting station.
The casino can be considered a legit and licensed business but it's different from a traditional business, you will not be so proud to admit that you are running a gambling station.
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February 18, 2024, 02:59:21 PM
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It's like that, just as you say it , but the Identity for a casino or in a project that is valid and that has a future does have to leave its KYC, and that was one of the things that happened in projects on privacy currencies, because in one of 2017 one of the causes of his failure was not complying with Saying or giving the identity of his devs and that was Enough to not Include him in a level 1A exchange , then at that time the topic was not so active of KYC or were not so stressful, and even so that was one of the reasons for failure of a project that looked very promising, in this order of ideas it can be thought that privacy and anonymity cannot be one of the reasons for the which a person can actually fight, because it is a right that is Skewed , it is something that does not resist, it is something that has nothing to do with it, and if so, then it is a Shame because as time goes by, it will be more and more Unless there are things that can be done regarding our privacy, it will become a big problem.

If we don't think about that time when there wasn't so much drama with the KYC, well things were different, what everyone was most worried about was the issue of adoption, and that was what was most sought after, that the people willEnter projects or at least know bitcoin, but one thing that has been achieved is, the governments realized that there was money there, that they did not have access, but how can they be and become part of this? Regulations are easily invented with the "excuse" that they are only going to protect against scams, theft, among other things, and the worst thing is that there are many people who believe them.

I know that there have been Scammers , I know that there have been failed projects, but that is something that happens in any ecosystem that has to do with money, with fiat money is where many more problems and more cases of scams have Arisen , so we have to Understand what the origin of all this is.

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February 18, 2024, 03:07:53 PM
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I think it's very simple: casino owners, casino websites, or even in the gambling aspect, everything that has been done by a company will never ever state the identity of their developers, maybe the heads, the president, or something like that, which will most likely be the face of the team or the company. Imagine this being a developer, or the ones that have made the casino website through programming, etc. You don't want, as an owner, to flag your developers identities because they might be targeted and ordered to do something bad in order to sabotage things, and it is also very confidential for a company to show the identity of their staff, especially if the employee doesn't want to be known or flagged. Privacy, that's what it is. Being anonymous as a developer is one of the few rules on a casino website, as it is complex stuff.

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