Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)

[Stalker22]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

No. I dont think is right. there are ethical and legal risks involved.  The account has your personal identity attached to it, so you could potentially be liable if illegal activities occur later.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Yes. Most sites prohibit account transfers in their terms and conditions now. 

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

Actually, I did it once upon a time. In the past, before stringent KYC regulations transferring accounts occurred more freely. But I would not do it again.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

No. The risks outweigh potential rewards.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Nope, casino account trading is a no-go.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Is that a question? 

[SmartGold01]

At first you seller or buyer needs to ask yourself a very important question like; If i buys account from Mr. x and he gives me the login details don't you think after funding the original owner would go change password?

Okay if that isn't enough, don't you think the real own can actually monitor when you have a big winning to get it withdrawn before you? Yes there is every possibility that when you make account and the original mail is with you even though you sells of the account and the account is locked it will only required the real owner to unlock it because he or she has the original details already that is associated with the account hence, if you can't provide exact details that bears the previous owner's name automatically the account is gone.

Then you being the seller, if the account got involved in any AML activity you are a direct person to be track and not the buyer, and of curse you the seller can't go scot free because you will be tracked to home town where you will be arrested for evil activity. That is why I don't encourage account sale be you selling or buying is totally wrong.

The best is for you to look for a web3 based casino where you don't need to reveal your identity or pass through kyc to gamble in such site, and more especially what makes people involves in account buying activity is at a cause of not wanting to reveal their personal document to any casino or gambling site.

Therefore I totally discourage account buying and selling and if you must be safe while gambling, it's better to have your personal details instead of using someone else account that have been verified by them. You can't trust them at any level since there is every possibility for your account to get wiped by the original owner.

[Rruchi man]

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Casinos will definitely frown at this, but I'm not sure that they will be able to completely stop it because they may be no method or technology to actually detect that an account has changed hand from the original user to a new user.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

I will not second think the option of building my own account because if I buy an account I do not know the history of the account and the cases that the former account owner has been involved with. Building your own account gives you confidence than buying a gambling account. Also if there's an issue tomorrow concerning the account that requires you to submit some documents again, you may not be able to rectify it because you are not the original user of the account and do not have the original documents that were used to register the account.

[swogerino]

The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.

The VIP bonuses are becoming shittier and shittier with the passing of time even in great casinos.I know that now in most reputable casinos even if you lose a lot of money they will give you something like 2-5 dollars weekly and about 20-70 dollars monthly with 70 being in the very high ranks.These are absolutely not worth risking by buying/selling accounts in the casinos,I know though that some casinos accept alt accounts as I see no other explanation to people sending huge tips to each other out of nowhere without a real reason behind it.

Most people though do not care to buy a casino account as the bonuses of the higher ranks are not worthy at all.

[Weawant]

Most casinos don't get to know that their casino accounts are been sold at times, provided the new person who got the account still abide by the casinos rules and never give them a reason to think about investing such account because that's the only means to know the original owner will be to investigate.

Selling account is actually a bad and prohibited practice a d this prohibition is common amongst other platforms too because some persons literally use these bought account to perpetuate evil and at the end of the day they will trace to the address of the provided document which was on the account because it has been kyced . It's very unsafe and not a practice to encourage because it will only cause more harm than good to both the buy

[PytagoraZ]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

~ This is an incorrect action, and is dangerous. If the account has been KYC, it can be misused by the account buyer
~ I don't know about this, but if the casino finds out I'm sure the account will be banned
~ Maybe I would prefer to buy it, because of the VIP benefits... lol  (But I knew it was the wrong thing to do, so I didn't do it)
~ No
~ Of course it's not legal

I have never bought or sold a casino account, but I once borrowed my friend's account because he already had a fairly high VIP level. But I do that when I'm with him

[iv4n]

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

It seems like buying a casino account these days, ads for sale are everywhere, on this forum, Telegram, Twitter, etc. I believe that most of them are scams, they offer something illegal and what can the customer do after that? Who should he complain to when he is cheated?

There are benefits for VIP players, but those benefits come with additional wagering. So just buying an account is meaningless, it's better to build your loyalty from the start, we get prizes for leveling up, we can get some other prizes from wagering we have, and in the end, it's our account and we are legit & fair players... if something goes wrong we have every right to complain about it and seek/get some help.

[Yatsan]

On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

More likely there are rules restricting such instance among gamblers in every gambling platform. Also, there's a risk and I won't have thoughts of buying someone else's account just because of KYC requirements. Personally, I'm fine submitting or complying to KYC procedures. The risk I mentioned is unauthorized access with the account simply because they have access with back up emails, we just cannot tell given that the seller owns it in the first place. I won't risk my funds for this one. If you are not okay with KYC requirements then there are other sites you can choose from which does not require such procedure. Treat your gambling site account as a bank simply because it holds your funds whenever you are gambling. Selling mine won't be a good option because it could be involved with unwanted activities and take note of your personal identity which is binder with the account itself.

[Bitinity]

- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

It is not, but in fact there are some people who try to sell their casino accounts out there. What is being offered is mostly because the account is in a high level and may get benefits from the casino.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Most casinos against account sells, once the casino detect it then the account(s) might be banned. Most casinos put this rules in their ToS but there are also some casinos that has no written rules about it.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

What would be a good reason for me to buy a casino account? Most sellers offer with an expensive price which can be something not worth to buy. Even if the casino provide  bonuses for high rank account but if the account is already inactive for long time then the bonus will be low or even gone.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

Nope, having KYCed or not, I will not sell my casino accounts unless someone want to buy it $1m lol (kidding).

[Natsuu]

We know selling casino accounts is risky business like it usually breaks the rules set by platforms and messes with ID verification stuff. You might end up with a suspended account or even legal trouble so starting fresh is the safer bet, playing by the rules and avoiding the headaches that come with buying or selling accounts. Thats for me

[danherbias07]

On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

I've seen this too, mostly in Telegram so they can hide their identities, but I doubt they are legitimate sellers and it's prone to a big scam.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

They are going to be in big trouble if something goes wrong and they cannot withdraw. There's a possibility their accounts will be locked if the first owner won't provide the details. So, it's a no go for KYCed accounts.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Sure thing and it's written in the Terms of Service.
Here.

https://stake.com/policies/terms

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

No, I'd rather build it from scratch.
As I said in the first one, you may bump into troubles if you are handling an account that is not really yours and it could end up your account being locked with the funds in it. That will be a lot of regrets if it happens and I don't want to be in that position so I'd rather just grind it out making into higher VIP ranks.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

No, I don't think I will. First, there's a lot of delicate information in the account and I don't want anyone to have access on it because they might find a way to open my other accounts or they will can use for other evil intentions.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

No, I don't think it is. Those who will buy accounts might have other evil reasons why they are doing it. Money laundering, that's first. Because the account has wagered enough, they can now get in and out even if they will do just a little wager, or maybe even none.
Imagine if this account is traced and your name is written all over it, what do think will be the next thing to happen? Ouch!

Let's keep it safe, don't sell our accounts, and let us not make it appealing to them because scammers are in the shadows who will do the same and maybe use our account to sell it, even if they don't have any access to it.

[dimonstration]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Casino account selling is strictly prohibited since it’s non-transferable according to the ToS of most casino I’m using. Selling of account is very dangerous regardless if KYC or not since there’s an IP login records which casino tracks to determine whether the account change hands or not.

Buying account is very risky despite some casino provides weekly and monthly reloads for high level VIP players. You will never know when will your account will be close plus the value of casino account with high VIP level is expensive which is why it’s still better to start fresh instead of buying someone account. Lastly, you will never use its benefits if you don’t bet like high rollers.

[mirakal]

This is too risky and will end up with the account holder in trouble. Those who are selling their accounts may have just stolen the identity they use to verify their account. If it is really them, they would not try to sell it since it's too risky. Just imagine what would happen if that account were used for money laundering; the owner of that account would be in big trouble.

Although the idea is understandable that some may choose to buy an account since they can't pass the KYC and want to gamble on a certain site, that comes with the risk, and it's not advisable. There's a legal risk that's too high; one could end up in jail. It's better not to try it than be sorry.

[madnessteat]

~snip~

Never bought or sold my accounts as it is very risky. If you buy an account, you run the risk of losing it and the funds stored in it after requesting a KYC re-run. And this happens a lot.

If you sell your account, you run the risk of receiving a tax notice for your winnings, even though you won't have the winnings themselves. In addition, your account could be used for fraud, which could cause problems. Think twice before buying and selling accounts.

[Beparanf]

There are benefits for VIP players, but those benefits come with additional wagering. So just buying an account is meaningless, it's better to build your loyalty from the start, we get prizes for leveling up, we can get some other prizes from wagering we have, and in the end, it's our account and we are legit & fair players... if something goes wrong we have every right to complain about it and seek/get some help.

The main target market of this account sales are those newly whales that want to try new casino since high rank account usually have better rakeback percentage which means they can earn a lot even if they are just starting compared when they start fresh. You can also add the special features exclusive to high rank that’s why this account selling becomes popular right now.

You’re right the buying this account is pointless if you will bet like a regular gamblers since it requires high volume of wagering in able to maximize the benefits of this account.

[Potato Chips]

On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino

Lol so true, the business has been flourishing lol. The buying and selling of accounts on stake.com even made it on news outlets lol, see: Access to illegal crypto casino sites for sale on Facebook and Discord for as little as £8

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Whenever I read the terms of service of any popular fintech service e.g. exchanges, casinos, banks, etc. they prohibit using another person's identity that is not yours so I'm pretty sure such policy is standard to KYC/AML. It makes sense because buying/selling accounts makes it easier for bad actors to bypass restrictions or abuse the platform. I say let's not encourage people to buy kyc'd accounts.

Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

Absolutely not lol because who knows for what purpose it will be used. It's worth noting that a company operating multiple casinos may group data so if for instance my kyc'd account got associated with someone multi-accounting to abuse bonuses in one casino, I'm pretty much then blacklisted in other casinos they operate.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Sounds good! I feel like it's a topic that could get developments over time 🤔

[ethereumhunter]

Selling a casino account that has been KYC'd is detrimental to someone who wants to buy it because the account was KYC'd by someone else. The casinos are bound to find out sooner or later, but maybe they are still letting this happen to see how far they take their casinos. If they continue to break the rules, the casino will take strict action against them and not allow them to gamble on its premises. I will not sell my account even though it has not reached VIP status, and I also have no intention of reaching VIP status because I am not an active gambler.

Those who buy a VIP account only want to get VIP members' bonuses. But there may be other terms and conditions before getting those bonuses.

[joeperry]

First of all, based on many gambling sites that I have visited and based on the terms and condition buying or selling or simply trading an account is illegal and would let your account be banned and even confiscate on whatever man you have in that account.

Even if I have a lot of money I won't be risking it in buying an account. As you can see they have a log of an IP address on where the player is playing and if they manage to see a different behavior with that account or trying to access it in different IP address, they have the rights confiscate any amount in that account and block you.

Lastly, I will not sell my account because of the risk that they might have used my personal information not just in casino but in other shady things and I don't think you should have a different thread for buying and selling a casino accounts because just like what I have said it is unethical and most of the gambling site don't allow this. So, if you open up a thread like that It would be a risk for the seller and also for the buyer.

[Hirose UK]

~snip~

The VIP bonuses are becoming shittier and shittier with the passing of time even in great casinos.I know that now in most reputable casinos even if you lose a lot of money they will give you something like 2-5 dollars weekly and about 20-70 dollars monthly with 70 being in the very high ranks.These are absolutely not worth risking by buying/selling accounts in the casinos,I know though that some casinos accept alt accounts as I see no other explanation to people sending huge tips to each other out of nowhere without a real reason behind it.

Most people though do not care to buy a casino account as the bonuses of the higher ranks are not worthy at all.

This amount can also decrease or increase depending on how much money is deposited to play, if the account is used more often to gamble large amounts, you can get bigger VIP bonus.
It just that everything will never be as expected, no matter how big the VIP bonus given by the casino for each week and month will never be able to cover the losses incurred, but it will only be like small return.
However, for those of us who don't really care about profits, whatever we get is not problem because we will just gamble and have fun, if we get bonus then that is additional capital to be able to have fun without depositing money.

In context like this, some people take advantage of the VIP level to be able to set the selling price of casino accounts at higher price, the higher the VIP, the higher the selling price.
This is quite strange because I think that buying casino account that already has VIP rank is also pointless because if you only bet small amount then the bonus that can be claimed is also the same, namely quite small amount of money.

[angrybirdy]

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Based on my understanding, It is not allowed to sell or trade any casino accounts to other people, especially that it is KYCed because anytime it can be reported as stolen account or fraud, especially if the intention of the seller is to defraud the buyer.
Besides, if it's an account and there's money involved and other important personal details are registered in the account, shouldn't we be more careful or shouldn't we just sell our accounts unless you're using a fake identity? The rules also include that such transactions are not really allowed, so it's much better not to risk your money.