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February 19, 2024, 01:07:52 AM
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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
This might just sound uninteresting but it is pointing at those who are in competitive manners of brining in persons into the forum without being properly oriented. Most of the persons brought into this forum never had the passion being here in the first place but some of us ignores how substantial their contributions and what their unwilling potentials to the forum would result to. To an extend, these unworthy persons being convinced in the forum leaves their forum accounts vacant flooding the forums with domant users accounts.
Contrarily this is also how some of our bitcoineers convinces unwilling individuals to get into the Bitcoin industry and Invest their funds with an explanatory manner of just focusing at making incomes while they ignores to explain about the risks involved to them and at the end of it they are held responsible for misleading them to the lost of their funds while the Bitcoin industry becomes a fraudulent technology to them due their lack of being oriented about the basics potentials of the Bitcoin technology.
I don't know if these fellows who are desperate of brining people in to the platforms and in the Bitcoin industry are after of self recognition or whatever.

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February 19, 2024, 02:09:20 AM
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stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
 There's nothing wrong with introducing something this good to anyone. Alot of users here was introduced to bitcoin by a particular individual or by a certain event. Before they started researching deep about cryptocurrencies. And alot of users have to grow their knowledge of cryptocurrencies without knowing about this forum at first but ever since they migrated into this forum, the forum as also help them to enhance that previous knowledge they ones had. While some have to spend time (starting as a newbie)  in this forum before getting the real gist about bitcoin. So you don't have the right to decide who got to know about bitcoin or not to. Is in the individual hands telling yah friends and love ones about the beauty of investing and knowing about bitcoin you have already play your role as a good friend.

Contrarily this is also how some of our bitcoineers convinces unwilling individuals to get into the Bitcoin industry and Invest their funds with an explanatory manner of just focusing at making incomes while they ignores to explain about the risks involved to them and at the end of it they are held responsible for misleading them to the lost of their funds while the Bitcoin industry becomes a fraudulent technology to them due their lack of being oriented about the basics potentials of the Bitcoin technology.
That the reason is always good to introduce bitcoin to your love ones and also Bitcointalk forum. So that they won't endup misleading theirselves investing in a certain wrong project (shitcoin) and endup regretting ever knowing about cryptocurrencies. Since have been in this forum haven't seen where any experience users or bitcoiners discussing about investing without mentioning the risk attached to that why is always advisable to invest on bitcoin because is more safer than investing in other altcoins.

Most of the persons brought into this forum never had the passion being here in the first place but some of us ignores how substantial their contributions and what their unwilling potentials to the forum would result to.
Yeah alot of users at first may endup not having any Passion about bitcoin. But as they spend more time in this forum and continue to see the beauty and the tremendous growth in bitcoin they would have a change in heart. And pretty sure that this forum as made alot of individual that at first was impassionate about bitcoin becoming very passionate. And am actually a proof of that at first when came to this forum with my half-size knowledge of this crypto space. At that time wasn't freak by bitcoin (not excited that much about it ) guess was because I didn't have much knowledge about it. But ever since I started understanding the concept of bitcoin due to the help of this forum and the knowledgeable users in it, I began to see the true beauty of bitcoin and now I'm damn passionate.

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February 19, 2024, 02:09:51 AM
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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
Why does everything need to be incentivized? This is a discussion forum, where the incentives should simply be the fact that there will be more people to converse with.

As for incentivizing Bitcoin sort of "evangelists", you can incentivize through your own ways. Like how Andreas Antonopoulos grew a decently-sized YouTube channel, and sold a good number of books. If you're thinking of direct Bitcoin incentives, then lol that's one way of making it look like a total marketing scheme.


This might just sound uninteresting but it is pointing at those who are in competitive manners of brining in persons into the forum without being properly oriented. Most of the persons brought into this forum never had the passion being here in the first place but some of us ignores how substantial their contributions and what their unwilling potentials to the forum would result to. To an extend, these unworthy persons being convinced in the forum leaves their forum accounts vacant flooding the forums with domant users accounts.
It's pretty similar to any other niche. While having lots of dormant accounts isn't good, it's not as much of a huge problem as you think.


Contrarily this is also how some of our bitcoineers convinces unwilling individuals to get into the Bitcoin industry and Invest their funds with an explanatory manner of just focusing at making incomes while they ignores to explain about the risks involved to them and at the end of it they are held responsible for misleading them to the lost of their funds while the Bitcoin industry becomes a fraudulent technology to them due their lack of being oriented about the basics potentials of the Bitcoin technology.
Unfortunately, that's how manias work. We had a similar flooding of people in the pandemic where people flocked into stock markets because of boredom and due to the pursuit for income. The only difference is that hacks are a lot less damaging when talking about traditional markets.


I don't know if these fellows who are desperate of brining people in to the platforms and in the Bitcoin industry are after of self recognition or whatever.
Maybe, or maybe sometimes people are just too excited when they're making money that they want to talk about it. It's pretty different from person to person.

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February 19, 2024, 03:33:21 AM
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It's really vary from one person to other person, depends on their motives.

If someone is still struggling with his life, he will try to make money as much as possible.

But there's someone who already have enough money and he doesn't want to achieve more, instead they will try to educate to other people because that's the other way for them to fulfill their happiness.

I myself, never talk about Bitcoin in real life, but I mostly talk about Bitcoin in this forum and in social medias, of course it's in my second account where I didn't link my identity.

There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
Who said bringing new people into this forum will get reward? Bitcointalk isn't a business, they didn't have referral program.

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February 19, 2024, 04:42:01 AM
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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,

Yes, you are right. there is no incentive whatsoever in convincing anyone whether they can be your friends, family, neighbors, strangers or enemies to Bitcoin and tell them to buy BTC and be a part of this forum. And it is because there is no need for that. Bitcoin is not a referral network and there is no need for anyone campaigning for it. Doing so can be a big waste of time on your part. But if someone in your network can be asking you on Bitcoin, you can share him/her your own experience and you can tell that person to better be a member of this forum so he/she can learn more things on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. There is no better than organic traffic and incentivized. 

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February 19, 2024, 05:23:16 AM
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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,

Yes, you are right. there is no incentive whatsoever in convincing anyone whether they can be your friends, family, neighbors, strangers or enemies to Bitcoin and tell them to buy BTC and be a part of this forum. And it is because there is no need for that. Bitcoin is not a referral network and there is no need for anyone campaigning for it. Doing so can be a big waste of time on your part. But if someone in your network can be asking you on Bitcoin, you can share him/her your own experience and you can tell that person to better be a member of this forum so he/she can learn more things on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. There is no better than organic traffic and incentivized. 
True, and it will be a hassle to invite or influence someone to do bitcoin or crypto currency stuff because they will keep on nagging you or asking you questions every single time. I have this experience where he discovers bitcoin because he sees me doing it, and from that he keeps on asking questions about bitcoin through me. At first, I'm willing to help and to guide, but later on, because I feel that he solely relies on me, I grow tired of it and say to him that instead of asking all things to me about crypto currency, why not join a forum, which is this forum? From that, he rarely asks me a question; instead, he focuses his attention on growing his account on this platform.

There's no merit or benefit from pursuing others to join this forum or to influence them about crypto currency stuff, but if you know someone who needs this kind of forum, then I think it's right to share it with them.

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February 19, 2024, 05:29:14 AM
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Why should there be a reward in terms of money for bringing new users to this forum?
There is no revenue stream for the admins for new users. It's just increased liability. Theymos, the admin, even paused his ads...

So really, think about it, not everything needs to be a monetary transaction. If you bring someone here and he appreciates the information here and the forrum's community, maybe he's gonna like you as a human in general. Some things are not always tied to money.

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In Bitcoin and Bitcointalk, engagement and comprehension matter more than numbers. No one enjoys gathering unconvinced members. We should all prefer depth above breadth. Not only filling seats, but expanding the environment with learned, enthusiastic people. The problem of inactive accounts is related to the need for a more engaging onboarding experience. Each newbie will be given materials and direction, turning passive viewers into active contributors. Sustainable growth depends on this idealistic principle.

Representing Bitcoin as a risk-free investment minimizes its complexity and potential. Truth and education are my values. Give people the tools to appropriately navigate Bitcoin. Bitcoin supporters embrace its volatility and breakthroughs. Informative involvement, not blind recruiting.

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Unlike people who participate in signature campaigns or have connections to the forum such as WO, political discussions, or some developers who are looking for news, the majority will use the forum when they want to ask about something or learn useful information, and therefore there is no need to create an account, as you can read most parts of the forum without the need to create an account. Therefore, you will find that the number of visits is large compared to the number of accounts.

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I don't think introducing this forum to someone interested in Bitcoin is a bad thing. I feel it's a good step. If the person is interested in learning Bitcoin and you don't have the time and patience to teach that person, just refer the person here. It doesn't matter if the person doesn't know anything at all about Bitcoin, if he/she is ready to learn and patient enough, they'll learn everything they need to know. If they're not patient enough then they can leave the forum. Dormant accounts don't hurt the forum, do they?

Convincing people about Bitcoin is wrong for me. I don't even tell people about Bitcoin (I have my reasons), but if you see someone who wants to know about Bitcoin so they can invest, why not educate them on what Bitcoin is?

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February 19, 2024, 08:39:32 AM
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I support both sides, there is nothing wrong in introducing this forum to people but at the same time, some people talk as if this forum is paying them for bringing in new people, they took it too far or let's say personal, as if it's a must to bring in new people or else something bad will happen to their forum account.

To even introduce Bitcoin to someone, they must be very close to me, and I must have seen their commitment and desire for Bitcoin, and once I offer them Bitcointalk it's the end of our crypto discussion, everything they will need to know is already available on here, yet some are just time wasters, they won't listen to your advice.

Today, I have stopped telling people about Bitcoin and investments, apart from the fact that it's not safe to do so, some people don't like doing the hard things, they see investment as a longer way to make money, they want quick results.

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February 19, 2024, 08:47:31 AM
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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
Telling people about Bitcoin and this forum is not a bad thing to do, it is actually one way of helping Bitcoin and the Bitcoin community. What better news can you share with people you love and care about than this forum. How will you feel if your friend know about this forum and Bitcoin yet refused to share with you, only for you to find out after many years that he is even a legendary with so much knowledge about Bitcoin? Will you be happy? Most of the users of this forum were introduced by someone except few that will stumble on it by themselves and these set members are few.



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February 19, 2024, 09:48:51 AM
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This is the exact reason why I start by talking about the dangers of Bitcoin Investment to whoever tells me to educate him about Bitcoin, I'd first make you understand that you can loose all your funds if you're not fully equipped with the necessary knowledge about Bitcoin, and then I tell you about the benefits of Bitcoin.
Indeed there's no point introducing people to Bitcoin without fully equipping them with the basic knowledge they need, because you'll be leading the person to his doom. This is why so many people see Bitcoin as scam because they go in with insufficient knowledge.

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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,

Before even diving into bringing someone to bitcointalk, you need to understand their take for bitcoin first, are they the type that appreciate the existence of bitcoin and make use of it, are they having the understanding of what bitcoin is and how it can help the financial economy, lastly, we also need to ask more about them if they will be willing to join a global forum where anything about bitcoin is discussed, if they now show interest, you can begin in telling them about the rules and regulations of the forum, the way they can enjoy bitcoin discussions among many other aspects of the economy discussions, once all of these terms has been fulfilled, then they can proceed  to joining, but never made a mistake a telling someone here is a place of making money.

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Other sites used to have referral links, which brought some profit to the referrer. Perhaps the guys you are talking about, OP, have the same approach to this forum, seeing only their own benefit.
But I have met people on the forum who would like to help their compatriots learn about this forum by inviting them to join and learn about Bitcoin; I don't see a problem with that. Just like empty profiles of people who remain inactive for a long time, so what? Not everyone finds the information here interesting or useful.
Here's what I definitely see—what doesn't make sense to discuss is your OP topic.
Allow people to make their own personal choice to stay or leave.

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I don’t think bringing persons into the forum is an act of being desperate. In fact, if your aim is to educate them about bitcoin and its crypto space, hence bitcointalk forum is the perfect place to be. Just like I’ve been doing to some of my friends before, I asked them if they are willing to learn about bitcoin and then they said yes so I eagerly introduced this forum to them. But I have no intentions of convincing them to invest, that’s too risky for me to decide for them. If they really want, they can do that once they have fully understood the concept of bitcoin. But not forcing them to invest as for sure, I will be held responsible for whatever losses they may endure.

Now, let’s talk about being rewarded in the forum. For me, I don’t aim for recognition or whatsoever. All I want is to help people become aware about bitcoin because that would be part of our financial industry in the future whether we like it or not. So as early as today, I want them to gain quality education about bitcoin so that they won’t easily believe on what crypto influencers are trying to say in the social media, as most of them can be deceiving for their own personal interests.

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There is absolutely no dividend stipulated amongst users who brings in new members in this forum as much as there is no reward given to any existing Bitcoin holders who in any way brings or introduces anyone into the Bitcoin industry nor this Bitcointalk platform,
This might just sound uninteresting but it is pointing at those who are in competitive manners of brining in persons into the forum without being properly oriented. Most of the persons brought into this forum never had the passion being here in the first place but some of us ignores how substantial their contributions and what their unwilling potentials to the forum would result to. To an extend, these unworthy persons being convinced in the forum leaves their forum accounts vacant flooding the forums with domant users accounts.
Contrarily this is also how some of our bitcoineers convinces unwilling individuals to get into the Bitcoin industry and Invest their funds with an explanatory manner of just focusing at making incomes while they ignores to explain about the risks involved to them and at the end of it they are held responsible for misleading them to the lost of their funds while the Bitcoin industry becomes a fraudulent technology to them due their lack of being oriented about the basics potentials of the Bitcoin technology.
I don't know if these fellows who are desperate of brining people in to the platforms and in the Bitcoin industry are after of self recognition or whatever.

Why do you want to get incentives for referring someone into the Bitcoin forum? why do you want to get incentives for teaching someone about Bitcoin investment? Education is power and if you think you can not give people Bitcoin education for free, you can ask them to pay you for the knowledge you want to lecture them. I did not pay anybody to learn about Bitcoin and if I'm referring people to Bitcoin, I will not ask them to pay me.

Bitcoiners: what is your reward for creating Bitcoin?

Satoshi: no reward, I created it for users to have privacy in their finances. Bitcoin is not centralized and there is no way I get incentives when Bitcoiners spend their Bitcoin or when new people invest in Bitcoin. I did not create Bitcoin to get incentives from users.

If you bring more people into Bitcoin, it increases adoption and more adoption means the price can pump, let the price pump be your reward. This is my opinion.

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February 19, 2024, 11:35:16 AM
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Why should there be a reward in terms of money for bringing new users to this forum?
There is no revenue stream for the admins for new users. It's just increased liability. Theymos, the admin, even paused his ads...

So really, think about it, not everything needs to be a monetary transaction. If you bring someone here and he appreciates the information here and the forrum's community, maybe he's gonna like you as a human in general. Some things are not always tied to money.

Yeah rather than dishing out cash rewards, it's about making this forum a cool place to hang out. When you bring someone in and they vibe with the community and find useful stuff, it's like a win-win. Think of it as building a friendly digital hangout where people connect, share and enjoy each other's company. We should continuously learn something and here it is in this forum

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I do not think that it is necessarily a bad thing to introduce people to bitcointalk or just in bitcoin in general. I think this forum is a good place for beginners to learn about bitcoin. There are a lot of books or audiobooks that are way too overwhelming and intimidating for beginners. But this forum is filled with posts that are written by ordering people with concerns and questions that a lot of beginners might relate to.

I personally did not take much interest in cryptocurrency until I stumbled upon bitcointalk. Here I got to fully understand different concepts in crypto that would have taken me otherwise a long time to know about.

New members can not be a bad thing. These people want to learn something new and they can even contribute to the market which is a good thing for us who are already holders.

If it’s the abandoned accounts you are worried about, maybe there should be a system where if an account is inactive for a specific period of time then it will be disabled and no longer be used.

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I think it's actually good that there's no reward for introducing people to Bitcoin or this forum because the opposite would be a red flag, indicating that it could be a Ponzi scheme or something like that.
I've introduced several people to Bitcoin and to this forum specifically. Some became actively engaged in the crypto market, while others probably don't even remember experimenting with the forum at this point. But I've never tried to convince people to join, I just gently introduced them when they seemed interested. In my opinion, financial decisions are personal and private, so I see no use in trying to convince people to invest or to learn about cryptos, for example. After all, I don't want to feel guilty if something doesn't work out for those people.
So overall, I agree with the op that we shouldn't be convincing others to join and/or invest.

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