trezor + metamask

[asdlolciterquit]

Hello everyone, first of all i hope this is the right section.

I have a few questions about the connection between trezor and metamask.
Few years ago i connected my trezor with metamask, but i really don't remember which steps i did.

In this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67hkAEcEH1o) i see that it's very important not to do "import wallet" but instead "create new wallet".
I don't remember what i did in the past, but, right now, what i should do?

Right now, in my trezor suite i see my eth, but not my tokens...

Thank you very much!

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[OmegaStarScream]

That's correct, you shouldn't import your seedphrase. That defeats the whole purpose of using a hardware wallet.

Here's a step-by-step guide from Trezor. It's a pretty straightforward process: https://trezor.io/learn/a/metamask-and-trezor

If you want to access your tokens on other EVM chains or L2s that are stored in your Trezor, then all you have to do is switch the network like you normally do.

[Mia Chloe]

Firstly meta mask is not a safe wallet will advice you to kindly sweep your funds from both of them.
You can move the eth to a new mycelium wallet mycelium supports eth and Bitcoin.

[asdlolciterquit]

That's correct, you shouldn't import your seedphrase. That defeats the whole purpose of using a hardware wallet.

Here's a step-by-step guide from Trezor. It's a pretty straightforward process: https://trezor.io/learn/a/metamask-and-trezor

If you want to access your tokens on other EVM chains or L2s that are stored in your Trezor, then all you have to do is switch the network like you normally do.

thank you, i read: "Download the latest version  of MetaMask for Chrome or Firefox. If you have not used MetaMask before, you will be required to set up a wallet and generate a recovery seed. This recovery seed is separate and is not part of your Trezor and is not necessary if you only intend to use MetaMask with your Trezor."

Since i use metamask years ago, i don't have to set up a wallet?

Firstly meta mask is not a safe wallet will advice you to kindly sweep your funds from both of them.
You can move the eth to a new mycelium wallet mycelium supports eth and Bitcoin.

why is not safe?
anyways, i want to keep my eth/tokens on trezor, is it possible to connect trezor with mycelium?

[OmegaStarScream]

thank you, i read: "Download the latest version  of MetaMask for Chrome or Firefox. If you have not used MetaMask before, you will be required to set up a wallet and generate a recovery seed. This recovery seed is separate and is not part of your Trezor and is not necessary if you only intend to use MetaMask with your Trezor."

Since i use metamask years ago, i don't have to set up a wallet?

If it's already installed, and you have a wallet setup and everything then yes, you don't need to setup a wallet.

You could just open your MetaMask, and click on "Account 1" dropdown (or whatever you named it) -> "Add account or hardware wallet" -> "Add hardware wallet".

[Charles-Tim]

Since i use metamask years ago, i don't have to set up a wallet?

If you have the wallet install and you have not deleted it, no need to setup the wallet again. But if you do not have Metamask again, you will need to setup the wallet. If you have your seed phrase backup, you have no problem.

Firstly meta mask is not a safe wallet will advice you to kindly sweep your funds from both of them.
You can move the eth to a new mycelium wallet mycelium supports eth and Bitcoin.

why is not safe?
anyways, i want to keep my eth/tokens on trezor, is it possible to connect trezor with mycelium?

Because Metamask is not an open source wallet. I am not also a Mycelium wallet user, but I saw on Mycelium that you can connect it to a hardware wallet, but just that Metamask is supporting more coins and tokens. Any close source wallet is not safe and secure to use because you do not know if the code used to build the wallet has some vulnerabilities like spyware and malware that can render your coins stolen.

[OmegaStarScream]

Because Metamask is not an open source wallet. I am not also a Mycelium wallet user, but I saw on Mycelium that you can connect it to a hardware wallet, but just that Metamask is supporting more coins and tokens. Any close source wallet is not safe and secure to use because you do not know if the code used to build the wallet has some vulnerabilities like spyware and malware that can render your coins stolen.

MetaMask is open-source, and has always been as far as I can remember: https://github.com/MetaMask/metamask-extension

I do not recommend the use of closed-source wallets, but AFAIK, even when doing so with a hardware wallet like Trezor, transactions can still not be signed without physical access to the device.

[Charles-Tim]

MetaMask is open-source, and has always been as far as I can remember: https://github.com/MetaMask/metamask-extension

I thought it is a close source wallet until today.

@asdlolciterquit
No other reason why you should not use Metamask wallet. So far it is an open source wallet, using it with Trezor is good. It is one of the best altcoins wallets.

[asdlolciterquit]

Since i use metamask years ago, i don't have to set up a wallet?

If you have the wallet install and you have not deleted it, no need to setup the wallet again. But if you do not have Metamask again, you will need to setup the wallet. If you have your seed phrase backup, you have no problem.

i have my seed phrase backup of my trezor.
i have to use that?

[Charles-Tim]

i have my seed phrase backup of my trezor.
i have to use that?

That you used for the Metamask in the past? If it is the one, yes you can you it.

[asdlolciterquit]

i have my seed phrase backup of my trezor.
i have to use that?

That you used for the Metamask in the past? If it is the one, yes you can you it.

ok, i'm starting to think i am in trouble

i really don't remember what i did years before.

right now i have access to my trezor, where i can see that i have eth.
In that public address i have some tokens.

What can i do to recover those tokens?

since i didn't remember any pass phrase for metamask, it is possibile that years ago i clicked on "import wallet"?

[Charles-Tim]

What you need to do is to recover your wallet and be able to spend your coins with the use the seed phrase that Trezor generated you in the past while using it with the Metamask. If you do not have access to the seed phrase, that means your coins are lost. You will need the seed phrase.

You do not need to be posting consecutively. Just put all on a single post and let people reply before you post again. You can just edit your post if you still have something to add.

[asdlolciterquit]

What you need to do is to recover your wallet and be able to spend your coins with the use the seed phrase that Trezor generated you in the past while using it with the Metamask. If you do not have access to the seed phrase, that means your coins are lost. You will need the seed phrase.

You do not need to be posting consecutively. Just put all on a single post and let people reply before you post again. You can just edit your post if you still have something to add.

sorry for the double post.
Thank you, but i don't understand.

If years ago, i clicked on "import wallet" i have no metamask's  seed phrase.
In this case, how can i have a  seed phrase?


Also, i read on the url posted before:

"Download the latest version  of MetaMask for Chrome or Firefox. If you have not used MetaMask before, you will be required to set up a wallet and generate a recovery seed. This recovery seed is separate and is not part of your Trezor and is not necessary if you only intend to use MetaMask with your Trezor."

they say "is not necessary"...

[OmegaStarScream]

"Download the latest version  of MetaMask for Chrome or Firefox. If you have not used MetaMask before, you will be required to set up a wallet and generate a recovery seed. This recovery seed is separate and is not part of your Trezor and is not necessary if you only intend to use MetaMask with your Trezor."

they say "is not necessary"...

The seedphrase is not necessary to link your MetaMask with your Trezor. That's correct.

If you follow the above instructions I gave you, you should only need to enter your PIN, and authorize the action from the device itself, as you would normally do to authorize a transaction you're sending. You won't need your seedphrase at all.

[asdlolciterquit]

"Download the latest version  of MetaMask for Chrome or Firefox. If you have not used MetaMask before, you will be required to set up a wallet and generate a recovery seed. This recovery seed is separate and is not part of your Trezor and is not necessary if you only intend to use MetaMask with your Trezor."

they say "is not necessary"...

The seedphrase is not necessary to link your MetaMask with your Trezor. That's correct.

If you follow the above instructions I gave you, you should only need to enter your PIN, and authorize the action from the device itself, as you would normally do to authorize a transaction you're sending. You won't need your seedphrase at all.

thank you!

i verify better and i see, directly from my trezor suite, all my tokens.
i think that it's not necessary to use metamask, correct?

[OmegaStarScream]

i verify better and i see, directly from my trezor suite, all my tokens.
i think that it's not necessary to use metamask, correct?

Depends on your use-cases. If you're just holding, then no, not really. You can just generate a receiving address, send money to it and that's it. Otherwise if:

- You want to deal with multiple networks. The last time I checked, Trezor suite does not support Polygon, zkSync, etc.
- And most importantly, Trezor Suite does not support WalletConnect[1] so you can't deal with any dapps like Uniswap for example. You would need to connect your Trezor to MetaMask, and then connect MetaMask with whatever site you want to use.

[1] https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/issues/3260

[Pmalek]

In this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67hkAEcEH1o) i see that it's very important not to do "import wallet" but instead "create new wallet".
I don't remember what i did in the past, but, right now, what i should do?

No, you shouldn't import your wallet because that includes entering your Trezor seed into a web wallet. The seed and everything it holds would then be much less secure, and you essentially turn it into a seed from an online web wallet. Don't do that. Creating a new wallet and connecting the Trezor with Metamask is what you want to do. In that case, your private keys remain on the Trezor and you will be using Metamask as the software interface instead of Trezor Suite.

Right now, in my trezor suite i see my eth, but not my tokens...

I use the Bitcoin-only firmware with my Trezor, so I can only speculate why that is. Perhaps you need to add every single token in the settings of your Trezor Suite. Or it could be that Trezor Suite doesn't support those particular assets. Take a look at https://trezor.io/coins and see if your tokens are supported there in Trezor Suite. If they aren't, you will not be able to see them. But that's why you have Metamask, to interact with your tokens through that software. Also, you can always check everything you need to know about your address on Etherscan.

Firstly meta mask is not a safe wallet will advice you to kindly sweep your funds from both of them.

Both? What's the second one? OP's coins/tokens are on the Trezor, not on Metamask. Metamask only has his public keys if he established a connection to it with his Trezor. No transaction from the hardware wallet can take place without a physical confirmation on the Trezor.

[asdlolciterquit]

i verify better and i see, directly from my trezor suite, all my tokens.
i think that it's not necessary to use metamask, correct?

Depends on your use-cases. If you're just holding, then no, not really. You can just generate a receiving address, send money to it and that's it. Otherwise if:

- You want to deal with multiple networks. The last time I checked, Trezor suite does not support Polygon, zkSync, etc.
- And most importantly, Trezor Suite does not support WalletConnect[1] so you can't deal with any dapps like Uniswap for example. You would need to connect your Trezor to MetaMask, and then connect MetaMask with whatever site you want to use.

[1] https://github.com/trezor/trezor-suite/issues/3260

right now i just want to hold

@Pmalek: later i wrote that actually i can see my tokens in my trezor suite

I take this opportunity to ask: tu upgrade firmware on my trezor, i need to insert again all the Seed Phrase?

[Pmalek]

I take this opportunity to ask: tu upgrade firmware on my trezor, i need to insert again all the Seed Phrase?

No, you don't. Not unless you have reset your device to factory settings, which wiped the seed phrase from it. If it still works and the seed is in it, then open Trezor Suite on your device, go to the settings menu, and start the upgrade process. Read Update Trezor device firmware for more information.   

[OmegaStarScream]

I take this opportunity to ask: tu upgrade firmware on my trezor, i need to insert again all the Seed Phrase?

As mentioned above, you don't necessarily need the seedphrase, but you should probably have it with you before doing so. I wouldn't take that risk, especially if it's been some time since you last updated. Because if anything goes wrong with the update, you will need to restore your wallet.