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February 19, 2024, 12:20:10 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
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February 19, 2024, 12:32:31 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Do you think government will allow their people to panic about their current financial situation? Making it known in the public will just worsen their financial situation due to panic. I believe people already knew it personally since they experienced it on daily basis so there’s no need for an official statement that will worsen while everyone is still calm right now despite they are already experiencing financial crisis.

US government is very good on manipulating the media even with worst situation. Don’t expect a strong country like US will show sign of weakness publicly. Everyone can notice the problem but there’s no way US government will admit it unless of course it’s already too obvious and no excuse can hide it.

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February 19, 2024, 12:58:45 PM
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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.
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February 19, 2024, 01:15:25 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Do you think government will allow their people to panic about their current financial situation? Making it known in the public will just worsen their financial situation due to panic. I believe people already knew it personally since they experienced it on daily basis so there’s no need for an official statement that will worsen while everyone is still calm right now despite they are already experiencing financial crisis.

US government is very good on manipulating the media even with worst situation. Don’t expect a strong country like US will show sign of weakness publicly. Everyone can notice the problem but there’s no way US government will admit it unless of course it’s already too obvious and no excuse can hide it.
Techically it can last long month not longer If they don't change.
And liquity can't support anymore some assets,banks,and exchangers some must go and some stocks might disapere also the Banks.
There is not resources to support with liquitity.
Situation are very serious and If they don't work out this USA will default wich i don't belive they will default.
Im ready to see now some new Global Crisis war or something to save USA of default.
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February 19, 2024, 01:18:49 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

You know, dude, no matter who is the leader of a country, be it a president or a king, when he knows that his subjects are in a big crisis or a big problem, he will not let his subjects be worried or afraid. Of course, he will still say that it's fine, even if it's not really. As they make it a solution little by little.

Also, what I know is that in the US, apart from their huge debt, they also have other problems facing their economy, to be honest. That's why they are a news blackout to the people they actually belong to.

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February 19, 2024, 01:26:02 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

USA economy is collapsing from last 2 years. I am hearing this news from very long time but it never happened. I do not think there is any weight to these type of news anymore. These are just rumors being spread by media companies for views because these are attention grabbing news.

If USA economy really collapses, weaker economies like Asian countries will show the sign already few months before. But no such thing has been reported so we can assume that USA economy is also completely safe.
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February 19, 2024, 01:34:23 PM
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this is not the first time for the usa to default, it has been recorded that in the last few years the usa has defaulted several times which has disrupted the economy and politics there. however, this does not mean that there is anything to panic about about this problem. you can see that even though the economic situation in the usa is a little bad right now, the size of the economy is very large and at least it is able to make the usa survive in any situation.

what the usa needs now is just a president who is able to make good decisions, both economically and politically, because these two things are interrelated.

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February 19, 2024, 01:37:22 PM
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.



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February 19, 2024, 02:05:19 PM
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.


Now If would be the leader of USA i would solve problem by creating the reason why other countries need to start buying the dollar.
Now let's wait what will be the solution how they make specially Europe to buy the dollars.
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Now If would be the leader of USA i would solve problem by creating the reason why other countries need to start buying the dollar.
Now let's wait what will be the solution how they make specially Europe to buy the dollars.
Easy to say but that's hard to do, you do know that not every person can be persuaded by words or anything that don't involve force right? That's also not how global market works, the dollar's already the currency of choice for most countries so what's the point of what you're saying? From where we both stand, we think that it's easy to dole out policies that benefit the many but when you're the one making the decisions, that's a different kind of pressure.



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February 19, 2024, 02:59:07 PM
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Are you born yesterday OP? Isn't it obvious why they don't tell people that until it's too late? They don't want to induce panic to the population which is the likely thing that's going to happen when this will be spread through the news and it's also by the fact that the media is controlled by a few families, they can influence what's needed to be shown to the public, look at COVID, a lot of stuff was either hidden or suppressed in a lot of countries during the pandemic so things got worse for everyone. I hope that a lot of people in USA wouldn't be greatly affected if this is ever true.

Even up till now,there are still several stories and information that are yet untold to us.The USA economy cannot opt out so easily,USA is certainly in order,that what's I see but whatever happens,lets normalize and accept the fate.We've been seeing and hearing that USA economy crashes soon....but its never to late to make something out.The USA economy stands still and strong .

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February 19, 2024, 03:24:55 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

USA economy is collapsing from last 2 years. I am hearing this news from very long time but it never happened. I do not think there is any weight to these type of news anymore. These are just rumors being spread by media companies for views because these are attention grabbing news.

If USA economy really collapses, weaker economies like Asian countries will show the sign already few months before. But no such thing has been reported so we can assume that USA economy is also completely safe.


And you can cite some numbers, some indicators that would speak to what you're saying - "USA economy is collapsing from last 2 years." ?

And preferably compared to the economies of other countries? I'll give you a hint - the world is going through a rather difficult period, which started during COWID19 and has been prolonged by international destabilization, both political and economic. And in this case it is not necessary to emphasize that the US economy is the only one with problems. That way the picture will be coherent and honest.
Although you can try to cite figures that would prove otherwise Smiley

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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.


Look the Bond Market it's done...the repo Crisis aswell If they don't fix it we gona take 90% Western countries crash
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I hate these troll topics that are just spamming and nothing more, no idea why it is even being done neither. But, this one I would like to talk about as well. Just the interest alone in USA debt right now is getting to a trillion dollars, I understand that creating debt to grow is a smart idea but they did not grow all that much neither, that's the trouble.

If you have a company that makes 1 million dollars a year, and you get 10 million dollars in debt, which will be paid 500k a year for 25 years, that would be 12.5 million dollars with interest, but then you start to make 2 million dollars a year profit with that investment, so it is a smart debt overall. But, if you get the debt and still make 1 million, then why did you even get the debt? That's the problem with the USA right now, they have debt, but not growing fast enough.

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February 20, 2024, 03:32:45 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Where is you proof of this?  There's a reason the United States has the highest level of debt over any other country in the world, and that's because the United States has the most "attractive debt" in the world.  Other nations continue to allow the US to build debt because they believe in their ability to pay it back more than any other nation.  There's a reason US debt securities (Treasury Bonds for example) are considered the safest investment on the planet.

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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.
They won't collapse, they're the number 1 currency that's used in the global market right so how do can someone think that they're going to be collapsing anytime soon, and I think that if there ever is a collapse, they're not going to be gone that quick, they'll probably recover from it like they did back in the Great Depression. Palestine will definitely collapse, the Israelis are killing them and stripping them barely of their lands so they'll definitely going to be gone soon if there's no heroic intervention that will stop the fighting.



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February 21, 2024, 11:28:46 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.

Where is you proof of this?  There's a reason the United States has the highest level of debt over any other country in the world, and that's because the United States has the most "attractive debt" in the world.  Other nations continue to allow the US to build debt because they believe in their ability to pay it back more than any other nation.  There's a reason US debt securities (Treasury Bonds for example) are considered the safest investment on the planet.

Bond markets looking bad Im expecting to see 90% world financial air out of finances.
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Lol, if US will collapse, there will be many poor countries have been collapsed because they're not even able to reach 50% of US's GDP. It's really far to expect US will collapse, it won't happen in our generation, so there's no point to discuss.

Palestine might able to collapse because the war isn't stopped yet and Israel is keep hunting the Palestinians.
They won't collapse, they're the number 1 currency that's used in the global market right so how do can someone think that they're going to be collapsing anytime soon, and I think that if there ever is a collapse, they're not going to be gone that quick, they'll probably recover from it like they did back in the Great Depression. Palestine will definitely collapse, the Israelis are killing them and stripping them barely of their lands so they'll definitely going to be gone soon if there's no heroic intervention that will stop the fighting.
True USA is one of the power house country and almost foreign transactions are done through USD basis, so I think this news is lacking information or can be a fake news, I think all countries are experiencing financial crisis that's why many countries are in debt because they can't fully sustain the expenses of the country, including where country I'm residing in, my country has a huge debt in world bank its because the government are not responsible enough to their expenses, in fact you will notice in the news house the president are being in different leisure using the funds of the country, so I think the responsible for the financial crisis of a country is its government and management of the money, corruption and many more. So I will not be surprised if one day my country will be invaded and claimed by another country, and it will be total chaos.

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Arguably citizens of any country will not collapse while the government is strong enough to fund itself and so to the citizens.   The biggest argument for poverty is to acknowledge all debt, if that was done every citizen in some of the richest appearing countries would owe 70,000 and other countries you would have a capital surplus of 70,000.   However not all debt is equal, the time frame its issued at is not equal, consider the liquidity of the debt market support the price and cost of that debt  so in effect money is not linear in its worth or equal across the global exactly, its used in different ways.
  Its very obvious that dollar is considered superior to many other currencies even while there is alot of debt issued in that currency and liable to repay; equal comparison based on that debt would mean countries not in debt should be considered richer but this simple view is not how the current global economy works.
  
  If the observation is 'debt is too high & surely near a collapse' then consider the same view and words were said over fifty years ago not in a forum of the common people but by leaders of countries regarding global finance prospects.   I wouldn't say the comment was wrong but its not new and the timescale in the prediction is probably way off, we have to acknowledge its not a simple situation that everything will slide into the sea in some linear predictable way.

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February 22, 2024, 12:26:30 AM
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It is election year so do not expect negative news that will pose a threat to the current administration's bid for a second term. They will try to suppress anything that's controversial or try to bury it with something else since people quickly forgets. I think it's already an open secret that most of the big traditional media companies are controlled by some private groups and they will use that to protect the candidate they will support.
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