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February 22, 2024, 06:41:15 AM
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Considering how United States economy has been a Ponzi scheme for a very long time, there is no doubt that it will collapse at some point and there are a lot of "info" a bout it everywhere you look. The thing is, people don't want to accept ugly truths and prefer living in denial. Additionally it is not possible to predict "when" that collapse will occur, "how big" will that collapse be, and "what" happens next.

Take the 2008 collapse.
It was impossible to predict "when" it happened. Many people were warning for years before it happened and yet the corrupt structure were being kept alive artificially and by more fraud.
It was impossible to predict "how bit" that collapse would be, we now know though.
Most importantly we couldn't predict the next step. You see, the Ponzi scheme didn't die, it just got bigger to survive that  collapse and postpone the catastrophe and that scam has continued to this day.

The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
The problem is the nonstop printing of dollar out of thin air while keeping its value up artificially. Otherwise they'd just increase the debt ceiling again and default is averted.

As for war, that too costs a lot of money. Money US regime no longer has. Specially in today's world where "fighting cheap" wins you wars not "fighting big with a lot of money".

Take the ongoing war against a prison called Gaza. The entire NATO is helping the genocide with hundreds of billions of dollars and over that past 4-5 months their only achievement they had was killing innocent civilians while the damage on the armed forces of Gaza has been so minimal that it is negligible!!!
Why? Because a $6-$7 million tank can be blown up with a cigarette lighter that's worth like 5 bucks or a Yasin anti-tank missile worth 100 bucks. Or a $30 million US stealth aircraft can be shot down like a piece of cake with a missile that costs a grand.

Although we can't factor in the stupidity of decision makers, but US has fallen behind the military technology and strength. There is no way for the regime to win any wars anymore.

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February 22, 2024, 08:26:31 AM
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Considering how United States economy has been a Ponzi scheme for a very long time, there is no doubt that it will collapse at some point and there are a lot of "info" a bout it everywhere you look. The thing is, people don't want to accept ugly truths and prefer living in denial. Additionally it is not possible to predict "when" that collapse will occur, "how big" will that collapse be, and "what" happens next.

Take the 2008 collapse.
It was impossible to predict "when" it happened. Many people were warning for years before it happened and yet the corrupt structure were being kept alive artificially and by more fraud.
It was impossible to predict "how bit" that collapse would be, we now know though.
Most importantly we couldn't predict the next step. You see, the Ponzi scheme didn't die, it just got bigger to survive that  collapse and postpone the catastrophe and that scam has continued to this day.

The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
The problem is the nonstop printing of dollar out of thin air while keeping its value up artificially. Otherwise they'd just increase the debt ceiling again and default is averted.

As for war, that too costs a lot of money. Money US regime no longer has. Specially in today's world where "fighting cheap" wins you wars not "fighting big with a lot of money".

Take the ongoing war against a prison called Gaza. The entire NATO is helping the genocide with hundreds of billions of dollars and over that past 4-5 months their only achievement they had was killing innocent civilians while the damage on the armed forces of Gaza has been so minimal that it is negligible!!!
Why? Because a $6-$7 million tank can be blown up with a cigarette lighter that's worth like 5 bucks or a Yasin anti-tank missile worth 100 bucks. Or a $30 million US stealth aircraft can be shot down like a piece of cake with a missile that costs a grand.

Although we can't factor in the stupidity of decision makers, but US has fallen behind the military technology and strength. There is no way for the regime to win any wars anymore.


I remember the times of the USSR, when we were told every day, on all 3 TV channels (and there were no more), about the "rotting US economy", about the imminent collapse of their economy, and a bunch of similar "nice articles" like pooya87 Smiley. But. The USA is still the world leader, the USSR has dissolved into history leaving a toxic stain in the form of an international terrorist country. And what about Iran, whose representative so regularly talks about the problem and the impending collapse of the US economy ? Smiley
Instead of a thousand words, one graph. No, this is not a graph of growth of wealth of Iran's inhabitants, and not a graph of growth of Iran's military-industrial complex, and not a graph of population growth.... It's a graph of the total failure of the Iranian rial.... But for some reason pooya87 never says a word about it ! The question is why ?   Grin



Why no info about how serious are Iran financial situation now ?  Grin

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February 22, 2024, 12:45:31 PM
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That other brainwashed kid on this forum uses whataboutism a lot better than you. This was a weak attempt, if you want to become better at the whataboutery propaganda tactics you need to work a lot more at it Grin

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That other brainwashed kid on this forum uses whataboutism a lot better than you. This was a weak attempt, if you want to become better at the whataboutery propaganda tactics you need to work a lot more at it Grin

Expected empty answer, just to say something Smiley No arguments, nothing to oppose, "the last joy", after being once again smeared in the unpleasant truth - just to write a set of words that mean nothing Smiley
You look pathetic, you used to make fun of your primitivisms according to the propaganda "methodology", but now you have fallen to the bottom Smiley

Can't we talk about Iran's "successes"? Or it does not interest you at all ? Do you prefer neuro self-satisfaction, making up fantasies about the US economy ?  Smiley

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February 24, 2024, 11:32:03 AM
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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9

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February 24, 2024, 11:52:14 AM
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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9


I don't follow what others say or news i follow to indicators i watch fed data and instututional data.
And those indicators show's to me that financial markets are in trouble but btc and gold are protected.
I suggest to you become trader and full financial person with full knowledge it's your own benefits then you start see things things like i do study and learn also the mechacals of markets and how they work.
I see now bond market have issues and anyone who know everything about finances and markets knows that it's serious now and If it's bad in usa it has bad impact over the UK and Europe also becouse all the financial system are run by USA Fed.
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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.

Most of them come from people that got their green card rejected!  Wink

The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status.
Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security

But but but, Brezhnev told us all that the USA is on its deathbed , just as capitalism, and since it's been 42 year since he himself died I assume well, that capitalism and the dollar are also dead, right? I don't think you're going to say that the russian propaganda was spreading false things  Grin Grin Grin

The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Bruh, you don't know what Valentines day is but for sure some guy from Nigeria is well more versed in the economics of the USA than people actually living there!
Of course, Nigerian newspapers present the true reality, right, while the capitalistic reptilians media of the US is lying to its citizens  Grin Grin Grin

But this is beyond funny , so you have guys from Nigeria:
Nigeria cost of living: People turn to 'throw-away' rice for food
and one from Iran:
Iran Enforces Nationwide Bread Rations
telling us how bad things are in the US.
Definitely '82-84 vibes!

LE:
i do study and learn also the mechacals of markets and how they work.
You what?  Grin

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February 24, 2024, 12:07:54 PM
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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9


I don't follow what others say or news i follow to indicators i watch fed data and instututional data.
And those indicators show's to me that financial markets are in trouble but btc and gold are protected.
I suggest to you become trader and full financial person with full knowledge it's your own benefits then you start see things things like i do study and learn also the mechacals of markets and how they work.
I see now bond market have issues and anyone who know everything about finances and markets knows that it's serious now and If it's bad in usa it has bad impact over the UK and Europe also becouse all the financial system are run by USA Fed.

I suggest you actually read my post and maybe you’ll learn something. I’m a financial advisor of 20 years.  I hold Series 6, 7, 63 and 65 securities and security law licenses, life and health insurance licenses, as well as several financial designations. But I’m sure you’ll reply with something else that’s uneducated, short sided & with once again , no proof or counter arguments to the facts I just laid out. Just bad opinions (what’s gold and btc have to do with any of this lol)

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February 25, 2024, 09:53:30 AM
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It is weird to see a small number of people who are still in denial specially since this is not the first time US economy is in such a catastrophic situation on the brink of another collapse.
It is even weirder to see bitcoiners in denial. I would understand other people but you'd expect those who are into something called Bitcoin that was born out of the ashes of the US economic collapse of 2008 wouldn't deny another similar situation!

At the end of the day, despite being weird this is not that surprising at all.
When we look back, this is just history repeating itself. In the years leading to the 2008 crisis, there were loads of people who denied closeness of collapse and every day that it hadn't happened yet they would have looked at the markets and numbers and said "See the banks are are fine and growing, stock market is green and booming, blah blah blah". Grin
Of course there is always others who see past the manipulated stats by these fraudulent centralized organizations.

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So many ridiculous posts here. I think most coming from non-US citizens who have not a clue.  The U.S. financial market on brink of collapse? “To happen soon”. Lol where the fuck do you come up with this kinda shit. Also what is the US financial system anyhow? That could encompass countless things, largely NOT controlled directly by the government. The U.S. dollar is not in jeopardy of losing the world’s reserve currency status. The Fed Reserve, appointed by but NOT controlled by the U.S. president, branches of the US government, or Congress nor are funded by them, set monetary policies, interest rates, oversight of banking systems etc.  The U.S. Treasury, not the central bank like other nations, prints money, among other things. The president, branches of Gov, Congress etc all have limited say in much of the financial system, by design and countless “Acts” enacted over many many years designed to combat and take control out of few hands and in to many different ones. The SEC oversees the U.S. stock market, INDEPENDENT of the federal government.  Considering the U.S. economy is the world’s leading  economy and wont be challenged anytime remotely soon a financial collapse is, um, not happening soon. If it did? It would destroy the worlds economy right with it.

Take a look at the U.S. stock market compared to every other country,, perhaps there’s a reason why it’s so far and beyond the rest of the world in terms of market caps and company valuations across most sectors.  If you know anything about the financial markets (US at all time highs atm, after a sizable downturn /correction 1.5-2 years ago) you know the US equites and bond markets are the worlds best in terms of performance and safety /security.  Again US having the most debt means one thing, belief from the rest of the world that they’ll pay it back and on time, above any other nation. Borrowing is better than using your own money if you do it right, any day of the week,

 U.S.companies HAVE to report ALL financial news (good or bad)  4 times a year if they’re public. The Gov doesn’t directly control this the SEC does, I live in Illinois, it’s no secret my state is struggling in large part due to our pension budget deficit, the nations worst thanks to corruption of the STATE government officials of now and years past- https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-pension-debt-grows-2-6-billion-in-2023-mainly-to-cover-raises/ . State deficits have everything to do with State issued debt instruments (bonds) and nothing to do with US treasury bonds. The agencies that control the financial systems are required to publicly report everything and Congress will shut down in bad times, also not kept a secret from the rest of the world lol.

How do I know this ? 20 years as an advisor, governed by FINRA, under SEC regulation and working with and around the different independent agencies discussed above,

America isn’t the world’s “best” country by a long shot, but its economy, currency , debt instruments /security markets are and it’s not debatable as it’s all public knowledge.  

Do some homework people or at minimum provide some sort of proof to your idiotic

 
The government has long ago taking over the  networking of informations such as the social medias which was supposed to the people in concerned updated with the realities and happenings in life but because the governments are keeping things closed doors they shuts the News and other means of updates speculations up simply because they don't want to get exposed.

Utterly false. Proof from just 3 weeks ago - https://youtu.be/cN3x_9wEfrI?si=umU7Ck38UfsGDyF9


I don't follow what others say or news i follow to indicators i watch fed data and instututional data.
And those indicators show's to me that financial markets are in trouble but btc and gold are protected.
I suggest to you become trader and full financial person with full knowledge it's your own benefits then you start see things things like i do study and learn also the mechacals of markets and how they work.
I see now bond market have issues and anyone who know everything about finances and markets knows that it's serious now and If it's bad in usa it has bad impact over the UK and Europe also becouse all the financial system are run by USA Fed.

I suggest you actually read my post and maybe you’ll learn something. I’m a financial advisor of 20 years.  I hold Series 6, 7, 63 and 65 securities and security law licenses, life and health insurance licenses, as well as several financial designations. But I’m sure you’ll reply with something else that’s uneducated, short sided & with once again , no proof or counter arguments to the facts I just laid out. Just bad opinions (what’s gold and btc have to do with any of this lol)

Btc and gold has a lot to do with.
Your and my knowledge are different but i been learning myself along with common sense and experinces.
And i said i watch bonds yields fed and all the data and repo operations facility.
And my indicators don't show good in economy Im not School smart but more of real experinces smart and i had good menthor who explained to me also the inside info.
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February 25, 2024, 04:37:14 PM
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It is weird to see a small number of people who are still in denial specially since this is not the first time US economy is in such a catastrophic situation on the brink of another collapse.
It is even weirder to see bitcoiners in denial. I would understand other people but you'd expect those who are into something called Bitcoin that was born out of the ashes of the US economic collapse of 2008 wouldn't deny another similar situation!

At the end of the day, despite being weird this is not that surprising at all.
When we look back, this is just history repeating itself. In the years leading to the 2008 crisis, there were loads of people who denied closeness of collapse and every day that it hadn't happened yet they would have looked at the markets and numbers and said "See the banks are are fine and growing, stock market is green and booming, blah blah blah". Grin
Of course there is always others who see past the manipulated stats by these fraudulent centralized organizations.


You are right yes
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Many believe that the US economy will be fine even if there is a global economic recession. Many people think that if all the reserves of all the countries in the world are exhausted and all the reserves of all the countries are exhausted, then the US will be able to continue with their reserves for 50 years. I was watching one such report where the reporter was saying that if all the countries shut down electricity or anything else including oil, America would be able to keep all their power plants on for fifty years from that situation. From such reports we can estimate how strong the American government's reserve fund is. The economic situation in the countries where we live outside of America is not strong at all so we have to decide to do something in advance rather than just waiting for that time. If we don't make a careful decision about these things in advance, maybe we won't have so much trouble going through the economic recession.
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Considering how United States economy has been a Ponzi scheme for a very long time, there is no doubt that it will collapse at some point and there are a lot of "info" a bout it everywhere you look. The thing is, people don't want to accept ugly truths and prefer living in denial. Additionally it is not possible to predict "when" that collapse will occur, "how big" will that collapse be, and "what" happens next.

Take the 2008 collapse.
It was impossible to predict "when" it happened. Many people were warning for years before it happened and yet the corrupt structure were being kept alive artificially and by more fraud.
It was impossible to predict "how bit" that collapse would be, we now know though.
Most importantly we couldn't predict the next step. You see, the Ponzi scheme didn't die, it just got bigger to survive that  collapse and postpone the catastrophe and that scam has continued to this day.

The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
The problem is the nonstop printing of dollar out of thin air while keeping its value up artificially. Otherwise they'd just increase the debt ceiling again and default is averted.

As for war, that too costs a lot of money. Money US regime no longer has. Specially in today's world where "fighting cheap" wins you wars not "fighting big with a lot of money".

Take the ongoing war against a prison called Gaza. The entire NATO is helping the genocide with hundreds of billions of dollars and over that past 4-5 months their only achievement they had was killing innocent civilians while the damage on the armed forces of Gaza has been so minimal that it is negligible!!!
Why? Because a $6-$7 million tank can be blown up with a cigarette lighter that's worth like 5 bucks or a Yasin anti-tank missile worth 100 bucks. Or a $30 million US stealth aircraft can be shot down like a piece of cake with a missile that costs a grand.

Although we can't factor in the stupidity of decision makers, but US has fallen behind the military technology and strength. There is no way for the regime to win any wars anymore.


I remember the times of the USSR, when we were told every day, on all 3 TV channels (and there were no more), about the "rotting US economy", about the imminent collapse of their economy, and a bunch of similar "nice articles" like pooya87 Smiley. But. The USA is still the world leader, the USSR has dissolved into history leaving a toxic stain in the form of an international terrorist country. And what about Iran, whose representative so regularly talks about the problem and the impending collapse of the US economy ? Smiley
Instead of a thousand words, one graph. No, this is not a graph of growth of wealth of Iran's inhabitants, and not a graph of growth of Iran's military-industrial complex, and not a graph of population growth.... It's a graph of the total failure of the Iranian rial.... But for some reason pooya87 never says a word about it ! The question is why ?   Grin



Why no info about how serious are Iran financial situation now ?  Grin

Why are you suddenly so interested in Iran's economy? Last time I checked it was doing ok. It's growing, you can check the stats, but nobody really cares because it's world's #19 economy not world's #1 like the US. Rial is getting weaker? So what? Inflation doesn't necessarily mean that country's economy is failing. But you don't undertand or you pretend you don't understand because you're a lying troll.  Cool
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I dont know about collapse especially but reset of some kind is more realistic, reason being actually many nations are naturally blessed in multiple ways with various assets; to expect that not to count and make many scenarios recoverable is unrealistic and overly negative.

I would blame mismanagement and politics for interfering with what should be a profitable economy, most  obvious manifestation of that is the high levels of debt.   People have been speculating about the debt causing a negative scenario to occur of some kind for some time.   I do imagine a better process would replace a negative lossy situation, I hope we do find something more positive then continual debt but with so many factors its not clear how that would develop 100%.

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February 25, 2024, 09:43:08 PM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
Because that would be stupid on many levels, starting from the fact that you are oversimplifying and exaggerating the issue, and even if it had seeds of true, it wouldn't justify to purposely create panic by babbling nonsense. Just ask yourself who would benefit of scaring people with such stupefied populism? Also you are not even backing your claims or offering solutions. And i am guessing you have read such headlines somewhere if you have data to back that up so what news are you following then?

You can pretty much find spendings of every branch and budget online whese days because that's how transparent democracy work. And if you still are confused, write to your congressman about it and make them explain it eli5 style.

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February 26, 2024, 05:54:53 AM
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Let's just remember that the USA are currently in full "Election" mode. Important things like this will be ignored by the governing party, because it will harm their election campaign.

The US economy are very complex and stats and economic data are being manipulated, so you will not find the true reflection of the state of their economy, if you look at the numbers that are provided by the government sources.

Is there a big problem with the US economy? Yes, there are... but things will change after all the campaigning are done.


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February 26, 2024, 08:11:45 AM
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Let's just remember that the USA are currently in full "Election" mode. Important things like this will be ignored by the governing party, because it will harm their election campaign.

The US economy are very complex and stats and economic data are being manipulated, so you will not find the true reflection of the state of their economy, if you look at the numbers that are provided by the government sources.

Is there a big problem with the US economy? Yes, there are... but things will change after all the campaigning are done.




Yes it's a election i guess they have to keep it looking good
Im trader and finances knowledge person i don't need to follow goverment public numbers i watch instutions and fed the info what is known only by very educated people like me.
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February 26, 2024, 10:58:07 AM
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It's serious the usa are in situation to default but nowhere info?

The news should look this," people we are in the real trouble and we are about see huge financial collapse and fed having the problems no easy fix "

I mean news are full of other news wich is not even so important compared with this one.
The USA financial system is now close to collapse we are few days away from default.
In this case only way untfortunately will be full scale war.
The amount of debt ....it can not be balanced out with small crisis.
Not sure which rock you're living under these past few years but there has been a surplus of information about USA's economic situation in the past up to today. This is the only reason why we know that the US is in shambles and why they of all things changed the definition of recession to fit their narrative and not get punched in the gut by the IMF and the countries that they took out loans for. It's the reason why we know that the US just increased their debt ceiling a few years ago, and why as of now they are still scrambling to find the money or perhaps manipulate the laws once again to evade paying their loans out. Perhaps look into more reputable sources instead of looking at Tiktok or whichever Facebook Echo Chamber you're at right now so you can know for sure that the news you're getting is trustworthy and not fabricated? Maybe that's the reason why you think there's been lack of news lately about the economy of US. If that still doesn't work for you then go out there and be more vigorous about looking for us economical news. 9 times out of 10 you'd find updates and scoops about it with a simple google search, most of them in real-time too so you know that you're getting the hottest updates about their financial situation right now.

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February 26, 2024, 09:25:59 PM
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Why are you suddenly so interested in Iran's economy? Last time I checked it was doing ok. It's growing, you can check the stats, but nobody really cares because it's world's #19 economy not world's #1 like the US. Rial is getting weaker? So what? Inflation doesn't necessarily mean that country's economy is failing. But you don't undertand or you pretend you don't understand because you're a lying troll.  Cool

Patient, don’t be nervous, everything is fine, they will give you Relanium soon Smiley I agree with you on everything! Just calm down! And even Russia’s economy is second in the world, as is its army! And sanctions are only good, and Iran lives well, and there are a country of millionaires, that’s a fact.. Nothing in the Iranian rial, which is worth nothing, but for that there are millionaires Smiley
Everyone, everyone, calm down, Iran is of course the strongest and most dynamic economy in the world, yes, yes!!!!

About the troll - can you refute the facts that I present? You're not a troll, you're just a forum fool Smiley



But but but, Brezhnev told us all that the USA is on its deathbed , just as capitalism, and since it's been 42 year since he himself died I assume well, that capitalism and the dollar are also dead, right? I don't think you're going to say that the russian propaganda was spreading false things  Grin Grin Grin

So you laugh, but my school years were spent under these delusional speeches of an old senile man and his lap dogs  Grin
  We all knew that:
- The Western world is over, and the USSR defeated it
- Everyone in the West is jealous of the USSR
- Everyone is fleeing from the West to the USSR. But the evil capitalists don’t give it to them!
- The dollar is worth nothing at all and is not backed by anything, of course, against the backdrop of a stable secured, socialist, human ruble!
- Everything was invented in the USSR and the capitalists stole it all from the USSR.
- We do not have a shortage and prices rise like the “dying West”. These citizens of the USSR, the happiest in the world, are asking to raise prices for products and reduce their range and availability!
So, I forgot something else... And - of course:
- The USSR has the best education.
- The USSR has the best medicine
- And in general, everything is the best in the USSR, because Lenin did it all for us, and Lenin and the Central Committee of the CPSU never deceive! Unlike the constantly lying and deceiving imperialist presidents! Smiley


PS The USSR has rotted for 30+ years, but this initiative was devoured, intercepted and continued by the Russian Federation, Iran and North Korea Smiley

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