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April 30, 2024, 01:37:20 PM
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unfortunately few months later without realizing that, I was losing most of my income to BlackJack and when tricked me is the small profit I get. For instance, two weeks of losing my whole deposit and one week of winning only 50% of my initial deposit that felt like doing good while it wasn’t the case at all.

I think this is the reason why your wins are not your wins at all until it was on your bank account. Because unless you withdraw it, then  its still a money at risk. And you will never know if your account is in profit / loss/ or breakeven until you analyze your transaction history. Because along with all those wins and losses there's also transaction fees.

Which means that your wins should not only cover your losses but also the fees involve.
It seems I agree with you that if we are not receive our win money in our bank account, that means we aren't really wins. That money will still in our account gambling and that could makes us used that money to playing gambling instead withdraw the money. That can gives us risks to lose that win money that we gets if we can't control ourselves after that wins.

When you already lose in gambling and you playing gambling in the other days, you actually have a risk to lose that money while you can't easily recovers your lost money before. So that means what you win was part of your loss because we will difficult to wins all of our money that we used to playing gambling since beginning. We must understand that playing gambling have a risks and we will difficult to gets our money back.

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April 30, 2024, 04:03:19 PM
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It's obvious that it's the thing that most people will talk about when you win in gambling because most of the time it's losses that you'll experience when you're gambling and if you calculate the odds, it's always against you so that's the absolute opinion in regards to that kind of thing. Now I'm not saying that you can't win without upsetting your total losses or getting more than your total losses but the problem is that the bigger the prize money is, the more that the odds are stacked against you and the more the money that you'll have to risk to be able to win that kind of money.

considering that the chance of losing is greater than the chance of winning, it is clear in my opinion that gambling can put them in a detrimental circle. loss or loss of money in gambling has become something that is bound to happen, even though there is gambling that requires us to have skills to be able to play it, this does not mean that it can cover the losses that will definitely occur. Also, it is true that losses in gambling are what many gamblers will experience more often. Now, for example, if one person gambles a day, it can be up to 10 times, but I am sure that with 10 times more gambling, more gambling will end in defeat, right? with victory.

When you get a win, it can clearly make gamblers interested in doing excessive things, such as continuing to gamble even though they have succeeded in getting a win. With gambling that involves money, of course winning is the goal of many gamblers, so even though they have won, there are gamblers who don't. satisfied with the victory they have obtained, because the involvement of money in gambling makes them want to get more than what they have already obtained.

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April 30, 2024, 04:15:44 PM
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

Its only when we are more being focused on winning and earning through the money we see from gambling, we shouldn't for any reason think of gambling as a means of income, never should we grow with the mentality of the money we are using to gamble will one day be returned to us once we win a jackpot, this is a wrong mentality, we should be gambling for fun, forget about the money spent on it, the losses made or the potential future earnings we are having targets on, we may never realized recovering back our money, while we must have lost much more than expected except we clear our minds not to chase after loose.

True, usually the scenario will be more often experienced by gamblers who have the intention and purpose to earn in gambling, as you said that they are too focused on winning so this mindset makes them overlook that in fact it is the amount of money they have lost before that is returned by the casino, but still in the end it is really difficult and rarely a gambler can come out with a recovery or even a profit, because after all as we know that the percentage of losses in gambling is much greater than wins.

But the unfortunate fact is that most gamblers are too focused on winning that usually 10 defeats can be treated with one win even though the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of loss from several defeats they have experienced before, I don't know the exact reason but certainly when we are too focused on winning then when we win instead of cashing out the winnings as an amount to restore something that has been lost before but they instead continue because they feel that it is an opportunity that must be utilized which ultimately ends in disappointment.

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April 30, 2024, 04:21:22 PM
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

Its only when we are more being focused on winning and earning through the money we see from gambling, we shouldn't for any reason think of gambling as a means of income, never should we grow with the mentality of the money we are using to gamble will one day be returned to us once we win a jackpot, this is a wrong mentality, we should be gambling for fun, forget about the money spent on it, the losses made or the potential future earnings we are having targets on, we may never realized recovering back our money, while we must have lost much more than expected except we clear our minds not to chase after loose.

True, usually the scenario will be more often experienced by gamblers who have the intention and purpose to earn in gambling, as you said that they are too focused on winning so this mindset makes them overlook that in fact it is the amount of money they have lost before that is returned by the casino, but still in the end it is really difficult and rarely a gambler can come out with a recovery or even a profit, because after all as we know that the percentage of losses in gambling is much greater than wins.

But the unfortunate fact is that most gamblers are too focused on winning that usually 10 defeats can be treated with one win even though the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of loss from several defeats they have experienced before, I don't know the exact reason but certainly when we are too focused on winning then when we win instead of cashing out the winnings as an amount to restore something that has been lost before but they instead continue because they feel that it is an opportunity that must be utilized which ultimately ends in disappointment.
Only if gamblers can understand that it is impossible for them to win back what they have lost to the casino, that is why they will stop chasing their losses, and they will be satisfied with their little win, in order for them to cash it out, and enjoy their wins by going out to have fun or buy something that they will use to remember that they won some money in gambling. But the greed and lack of contentment makes them not to be satisfied with little wins, and will continue playing to see if they can win more, and loss it all.

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May 01, 2024, 08:40:46 AM
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Only if gamblers can understand that it is impossible for them to win back what they have lost to the casino, that is why they will stop chasing their losses, and they will be satisfied with their little win, in order for them to cash it out, and enjoy their wins by going out to have fun or buy something that they will use to remember that they won some money in gambling. But the greed and lack of contentment makes them not to be satisfied with little wins, and will continue playing to see if they can win more, and loss it all.

Yeah, this is really true.

It's all designed to be like that really.

It's all fun and games while playing, but withdrawing the money is boring, like sobering up kind of feeling. Most people would like to continue the fun party and keep pressing buttons or gambling until they are basically empty handed.

Similar to eating problems, many people can't stop eating say a bag of chips until they are all gone.

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May 01, 2024, 09:13:23 AM
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Only if gamblers can understand that it is impossible for them to win back what they have lost to the casino, that is why they will stop chasing their losses, and they will be satisfied with their little win, in order for them to cash it out, and enjoy their wins by going out to have fun or buy something that they will use to remember that they won some money in gambling. But the greed and lack of contentment makes them not to be satisfied with little wins, and will continue playing to see if they can win more, and loss it all.

Yeah, this is really true.

It's all designed to be like that really.

It's all fun and games while playing, but withdrawing the money is boring, like sobering up kind of feeling. Most people would like to continue the fun party and keep pressing buttons or gambling until they are basically empty handed.

Similar to eating problems, many people can't stop eating say a bag of chips until they are all gone.
Yes, the same scenario as being unsatisfied with how much winning they have. They will continue to gamble as much as they feel they can win more. Especially that the more winnings they have, the greedier they've become and stay to gamble until they no longer have money. Instead of enjoying the amount of current winnings they have, they think of wanting more winnings, such a common big mistake of most gamblers.


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May 01, 2024, 10:14:21 AM
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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

Its only when we are more being focused on winning and earning through the money we see from gambling, we shouldn't for any reason think of gambling as a means of income, never should we grow with the mentality of the money we are using to gamble will one day be returned to us once we win a jackpot, this is a wrong mentality, we should be gambling for fun, forget about the money spent on it, the losses made or the potential future earnings we are having targets on, we may never realized recovering back our money, while we must have lost much more than expected except we clear our minds not to chase after loose.
It is unlikely that they will quit gambling such as by chasing losses, in my opinion it will only happen to gamblers who are indeed wise, whether it is from their thinking or from their actions. But for those who gamble with the aim of earning money of course what they are likely to do when they lose in gambling is to chase losses. It is true that you say it is also impossible to win back what you have lost in gambling, although there is luck that might make them get a win, but it is very unlikely that they can get a win let alone the victory can cover all the losses and losses they have experienced.
If you have already won then we must act smart by cashing out the winnings that have been obtained, of course, this action is an action that must be taken by cashing out the winnings that have been obtained, then they can go to enjoy the results of the winnings that have been obtained.

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May 01, 2024, 11:19:22 AM
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Yeah, this is really true.

It's all designed to be like that really.

It's all fun and games while playing, but withdrawing the money is boring, like sobering up kind of feeling. Most people would like to continue the fun party and keep pressing buttons or gambling until they are basically empty handed.

Similar to eating problems, many people can't stop eating say a bag of chips until they are all gone.
Yes, the same scenario as being unsatisfied with how much winning they have. They will continue to gamble as much as they feel they can win more. Especially that the more winnings they have, the greedier they've become and stay to gamble until they no longer have money. Instead of enjoying the amount of current winnings they have, they think of wanting more winnings, such a common big mistake of most gamblers.

Yes, that's true, but in the end it is clear that they will end up with a million regrets because no matter how greedy they are in gambling, it will never work, and what will happen is that they will only lose the amount of money they won.
won before. I understand that everyone needs money but we also have to be able to respond or respond to things with a healthy and rational mindset, this is gambling where the final session will always be about winning or losing, meaning when you return to continue the session with a greater amount of risk in order to pursue a much bigger win, it is very possible for you to end up losing.

On the other hand, I am not saying that you cannot win according to your wishes, but what is certain is that you have to reconsider yourself regarding this decision and make sure that whatever happens, you have to agree with yourself to take responsibility for the results, especially when the results turn out to be at the end of the session. not according to what you expected. So actually, in my opinion, this is an option, if for example you are not ready to lose all the winnings you have earned then it is clearly better to withdraw immediately, but if for example you are very curious and want to go back to look for bigger wins then you must be able to take responsibility for whatever the results are. , but I think overall it is very unlikely that they will be able to take responsibility for their decisions.

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May 01, 2024, 01:26:29 PM
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I see this thread now and I have to say that the title is only partially true. The vast majority of the time when you win you are getting back some of what you spent but you don't get it all back. You can see with an example on the following site, which is a lottery simulator but you can get an idea that it is the same with casino games:

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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people were lucky to win but they will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual gamblers.

And I don't think someone in the gambling industry as a win win gambling history, or your wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in the gambling industry, I have not seen anyone win win and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not in any day have a win win gambling and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.

A very interesting question. I don't think there are accurate statistics regarding this. From my understanding, I will say that if people won more than they lost, then casinos, bookmakers and slot machines, etc. would not exist. There would be no point in this. That is, from here it becomes obvious that people lose more money than they win, this is evidenced by new bookmakers that are growing like mushrooms after rain.
Regarding the fact that there are people who earned more during their gaming career than they lost. There are probably such people. But I think that there are fewer such people than people who remain and will remain financial losers

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Only if gamblers can understand that it is impossible for them to win back what they have lost to the casino ...

it is not impossible to win your money back from the casino, because if it were not possible then there would not be many gamblers who would bet again when they lost. it's just that the possibility of winning your money back from the casino is quite low, so when a gambler wants to win their money back when they lose, then they have to be prepared to accept the risk that more of their money will be lost, because the possibility is quite low, but that doesn't mean impossible.

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There have been saying that before you win a game in gambling, you would have lost enough funds and that means you didn't win any new or extra money to yourself but the casino return part of your money which you have lost before to you.

And some will still say that what about those who have not playing gamble before and they won in their first day in gambling. Well those people were lucky to win but they will still dash the casino company that win again because the first time win is always to lure them to the system and making them to perpetual gamblers.

And I don't think someone in the gambling industry as a win win gambling history, or your wins are bigger than the loss. And all the experiences I have in the gambling industry, I have not seen anyone win win and also those of my friends who are gamblers have not in any day have a win win gambling and there is no loss record in their gambling history. And all the ones I have seen and known, the loses are more than the wins. And when I carefully look at the argument I also accept the assertion that what you win was part of your loss. Is that true? Make your input.


I remembered that if I were a novice gambler in the field of crypto, on my first day I would have immediately experienced the luck of winning gambling. And of course, I was very happy because I won 65 dollars. And I immediately hated that, and then I immediately took out my winning price.

And maybe because of my win, that's the reason why I somehow keep going back and forth playing gambling, even though in my mind it's just for fun. The intention still can't be removed from my mind, no matter how much I hope I win.



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I remembered that if I were a novice gambler in the field of crypto, on my first day I would have immediately experienced the luck of winning gambling. And of course, I was very happy because I won 65 dollars. And I immediately hated that, and then I immediately took out my winning price.

And maybe because of my win, that's the reason why I somehow keep going back and forth playing gambling, even though in my mind it's just for fun. The intention still can't be removed from my mind, no matter how much I hope I win.

and that's gambling, they have a strong attraction for every gambler to come back to play even though they know they have lost quite a lot, even bigger than the winnings they have ever made.
Gamblers will not continue to lose, there are times when luck will come to you with a pleasant win. but you may have got your money back that you have spent in gambling before. but in more cases, gamblers will return in the hope of winning again.

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True, usually the scenario will be more often experienced by gamblers who have the intention and purpose to earn in gambling, as you said that they are too focused on winning so this mindset makes them overlook that in fact it is the amount of money they have lost before that is returned by the casino, but still in the end it is really difficult and rarely a gambler can come out with a recovery or even a profit, because after all as we know that the percentage of losses in gambling is much greater than wins.

But the unfortunate fact is that most gamblers are too focused on winning that usually 10 defeats can be treated with one win even though the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of loss from several defeats they have experienced before, I don't know the exact reason but certainly when we are too focused on winning then when we win instead of cashing out the winnings as an amount to restore something that has been lost before but they instead continue because they feel that it is an opportunity that must be utilized which ultimately ends in disappointment.
Only if gamblers can understand that it is impossible for them to win back what they have lost to the casino, that is why they will stop chasing their losses, and they will be satisfied with their little win, in order for them to cash it out, and enjoy their wins by going out to have fun or buy something that they will use to remember that they won some money in gambling. But the greed and lack of contentment makes them not to be satisfied with little wins, and will continue playing to see if they can win more, and loss it all.

Yes but as we know that most gamblers do not understand that, they do not really understand that gambling will always be about winning and losing so when they apply greed by continuing the game with the aim of returning something that has been lost or any reason then obviously the possibility of losing will continue to lurk. On the other hand, this is also one of the reasons why we are always advised to only put a small budget amount or an amount that we can afford when we lose, none other than because with this approach it is less likely for you to feel emotional or unhappy with the results and also this way can prevent you from the possibility of actions and thoughts of returning something that has been lost.

In my opinion, the main thing that must be corrected is the understanding of gambling, do not let you focus too much on winning because actually winning is just something that tempts gamblers so that they can act excessively which in the end the result turns out to be losing and this is an algorithm implemented by casinos to make gamblers lose consciousness and act excessively which in the end will only benefit the casino more.

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May 01, 2024, 04:05:19 PM
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it is not impossible to win your money back from the casino, because if it were not possible then there would not be many gamblers who would bet again when they lost. it's just that the possibility of winning your money back from the casino is quite low, so when a gambler wants to win their money back when they lose, then they have to be prepared to accept the risk that more of their money will be lost, because the possibility is quite low, but that doesn't mean impossible.

Making an effort to win back the money you have lost is usually a bad idea because the emotions always accompany later games and you know what happen when someone is pain and try to build something, the end is always bad. However, a gambler who is good can make back that money from casino without stress because when he is going to win money from casino, he is going to do it in many double folds.

When you lost don't complain, just accept that you have lost money like other people. If you are good and consistent, you will win back the casino or the gambling platform on basis of skills and understanding gambling, if you don't have the skills, I'm sorry to say that you will only be losing to casino frequently.

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May 02, 2024, 10:30:38 AM
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What you say, in my opinion, is true, no matter how big a win we get, it's actually not a real win. I don't mean it's from the casino which gives us generous wins even though it's a loss that we've been playing gambling in casinos for and most people are comfortable with one casino he will continue to play at that casino. So he will get a reward as long as he plays gambling continuously when in fact it only attracts us to continue gambling and thinking that one day we will win a large amount even though this is clearly just an impossible dream happens we will not be able to beat the casino no matter what.

Indeed, there are some people who have never played gambling before, they win bets accidentally and this can be said to be lucky because it is rare for beginners to win gambling at the beginning if they don't have any experience, especially if they are just careless in gambling. But be careful, sometimes it's just a trap in order for a beginner to continue gambling, the casino knows that the person is a beginner and therefore dares to give him winnings at the start to lure him into spending more money to continue gambling on the site.

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May 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AM
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I remembered that if I were a novice gambler in the field of crypto, on my first day I would have immediately experienced the luck of winning gambling. And of course, I was very happy because I won 65 dollars. And I immediately hated that, and then I immediately took out my winning price.

And maybe because of my win, that's the reason why I somehow keep going back and forth playing gambling, even though in my mind it's just for fun. The intention still can't be removed from my mind, no matter how much I hope I win.
and that's gambling, they have a strong attraction for every gambler to come back to play even though they know they have lost quite a lot, even bigger than the winnings they have ever made.
Gamblers will not continue to lose, there are times when luck will come to you with a pleasant win. but you may have got your money back that you have spent in gambling before. but in more cases, gamblers will return in the hope of winning again.
It doesn't happen to every gambler, not every gambler manages to get enough wins to recover everything they have ever lost in gambling. If that were happening to every gambler, the casinos would go bankrupt because they would be returning all the money to the gamblers, but this only happens to a few lucky gamblers where they manage to get enough wins to get everything back or maybe get more than what they have lost so far.

So, I don't recommend anyone getting into gambling thinking that they will some day recover everything they have lost if they keep gambling because this thought will keep motivating you to gamble more even when you are constantly losing and that isn't something good because the money is not recoverable.

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May 02, 2024, 11:08:16 AM
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All I can say, that even if wins are return of money that were lost, that is also good, as you get fun, emotions and service for free. That aint bad at all. All gambler has to do is to find a a proper balance between amount being able to lose and the moment when fun change into chasing losses.

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All I can say, that even if wins are return of money that were lost, that is also good, as you get fun, emotions and service for free. That aint bad at all. All gambler has to do is to find a a proper balance between amount being able to lose and the moment when fun change into chasing losses.

Yeah, at least the bare minimum the time is lost.

So, even if the gambler actually get their money back they will still lose something.

On the other hand they do might end up winning in terms of entertainment, which of course cannot be simply ignored.

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May 03, 2024, 07:01:39 AM
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All I can say, that even if wins are return of money that were lost, that is also good, as you get fun, emotions and service for free. That aint bad at all. All gambler has to do is to find a a proper balance between amount being able to lose and the moment when fun change into chasing losses.

Yeah, at least the bare minimum the time is lost.

So, even if the gambler actually get their money back they will still lose something.

On the other hand they do might end up winning in terms of entertainment, which of course cannot be simply ignored.

I have already posted many times that I consider making deposit on gambling as spending money. We dont regret spending money on other entertainment stuff, like going to cinemas for example. Suppose you have watched the movie, and when you leave audience, you get refunded the money you have spent on snacks and ticket. If we talk about, time, then we are losing it all the time. I dont want to go into philosophical debates about time.

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