dump the Trump?

[paxmao]

So yes, Trump has a huge support from the Republican bases, although you could argue that some may decide not to vote for a now convicted rapist according to some pols. But what is the problem now? The cost is becoming unbearable. Trump is certainly not going to self-finance anything related to his political career (he may not have it!), so every trial, like the one for raping and then besmirching the victim (85 million), the "little problem" in Newyork (385 million) and what ever is to come have to come from the donors and will not go to the campaign.

Would it not be better to "dump the Trump", let him pay (or not pay) for his own mistakes and support a candidate - possibly with a similar agenda but less stupid and less crazy - that is clean and can dedicate the funds to the campaign??

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[legiteum]

I don't think the Republican voting base's love for Trump is rooted in anything rational.

If Trump dropped out of the race (for whatever reason), then 50% of Republican voters wouldn't even show up to vote, leading to massive landslides by the other side.

And Bannon was pardoned by Trump for ripping off his own voters. I'm not sure they care about money.

[suchmoon]

Would it not be better to "dump the Trump"

Better for whom?

If anything, all these lawsuits make Trump a martyr for the "republican base", whatever that is these days. This is a very simple and easy to understand narrative - "swamp is attacking our hero".

And the "base" had a chance to choose less stupid candidates in the primaries but didn't.

[btc78]

U.S politics kinda confuse me I am not gonna lie. It is like common knowledge now that Trump is probably one of the worst candidates for president out there yet a lot still support him. Is there really no other candidate that can hold up republicans’ belief, ideologies, and values other than Trump himself?

none from the candidates running seem to be the best pick. I have heard Americans advocates for just voting for the lesser evil which in the previous election happened to be Biden. Now, lots of people despise Biden for his decisions. I come from a country with a different process of nominating presidency candidates. The presidential candidates are not limited to two only allowing for more options. I can not possibly imagine having to pick only between two people. It is not like you can not vote because if you don’t, the worse candidate may win.

US is a very powerful country, home to a lot of powerful people and should be treated as such. US has such great influences around the world that a development in the US can for sure improve the lives in different countries as well. Can you imagine the USA led by a competent, decisive, and humble leader?

[suchmoon]

U.S politics kinda confuse me I am not gonna lie. It is like common knowledge now that Trump is probably one of the worst candidates for president out there yet a lot still support him. Is there really no other candidate that can hold up republicans’ belief, ideologies, and values other than Trump himself?

Populists exist everywhere. Bernie Sanders is a populist and got quite close to getting a nomination in 2016. But Trump has the advantage of Republicans deliberately dumbing down their base with FUD since 1980s at least.

none from the candidates running seem to be the best pick. I have heard Americans advocates for just voting for the lesser evil which in the previous election happened to be Biden. Now, lots of people despise Biden for his decisions. I come from a country with a different process of nominating presidency candidates. The presidential candidates are not limited to two only allowing for more options. I can not possibly imagine having to pick only between two people. It is not like you can not vote because if you don’t, the worse candidate may win.

There are primary elections where voters can pick from more than just two candidates. The actual presidential election in November is more similar to the second round of multi-candidate elections in other countries, when none of the candidates get 50%+ in the first round. And it's not like populists can't win in those multi-party elections...

Having said that, the electoral college bullshit is bullshit, and it should not exist in the 21st century. But that's a whole other story.

US is a very powerful country, home to a lot of powerful people and should be treated as such. US has such great influences around the world that a development in the US can for sure improve the lives in different countries as well. Can you imagine the USA led by a competent, decisive, and humble leader?

US is not in the business of improving lives in other countries so I don't think it would work that way regardless of who's the president. Obama bombed the shit out of other countries despite being reasonably "competent, decisive, and humble".

Ideally the US should focus in improving lives of people in the US (not vacuous MAGA nonsense but actual tangible stuff), and other countries should focus on improving themselves, but that requires actual effort so... unlikely.

[paxmao]

Would it not be better to "dump the Trump"

Better for whom?

If anything, all these lawsuits make Trump a martyr for the "republican base", whatever that is these days. This is a very simple and easy to understand narrative - "swamp is attacking our hero".

And the "base" had a chance to choose less stupid candidates in the primaries but didn't.

Better for everyone except Trump.

Yes, I have no doubt that all this makes the bases cheer with excitement (not all the base, some will not vote for a convict) and yes normally it would be beneficial for the campaign. The point is that one thing is to love the guy and the other thing is to pay the bill for his crazyness.

Let me put it this way: I am ok with free icecream, and would eat and give superlikes, instagramit and cheer... if it costs a couple hundred bucks... I may want to check the quality, have just one scoop please and certainly try to give it up, particularly if there is a guy next door selling milkshakes at 50 cents.#

Sure "bases" want Trump, but are they going to have to pay Trump-mistake sized prices?

Oh... this came yesterday:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/19/politics/republicans-retiring-house/index.html

House Republicans wonder: ‘Is it worth it?’
This session of Congress, lawmakers have already experienced a historic 15-ballot race for speaker, the unprecedented ouster of a speaker, a rare expulsion of a member and a number of embarrassing, failed floor votes as Republican leadership has struggled to corral its paper-thin majority – all which has all contributed to members’ fatigue.

“If you’re chairman of a committee, and you’re trying to do hard legislative work, there’s frustration there. It’s just a number of things piling up,” said House Science Committee Chair Frank Lucas, reflecting on the retirements.

[Hispo]

Would it not be better to "dump the Trump"

Better for whom?

If anything, all these lawsuits make Trump a martyr for the "republican base", whatever that is these days. This is a very simple and easy to understand narrative - "swamp is attacking our hero".

And the "base" had a chance to choose less stupid candidates in the primaries but didn't.

It is not a secret that since Trump was first indicted, his apparent popularity has just increased among Republicans with each indictment and each trial. I would say those indictments actually helped him much to trash De Santis and getting him out of the race.
Though, regardless of the increase of popularity he has managed to materialize, I have heard some people talking about some poll where Trump support from Republicans would drop to 20% if he is indeed found to be guilty of a criminal accusation. I have not read the poll myself, so I am skeptical about it, since Trump continues to have pretty much a lot of influence over the uneducated Republican voter who does not seem to even care about reading the indictments or the search warrants used to recover those secret documents held in Mar a Lago.

Is there a chance a guilty declaration is where an important percentage of the Republican base draws the line?

[blckhawk]

Whoever's on the lead, if it's still a geriatric one then we all know that the US citizens that are mostly comprised of working adults are definitely going to get the short end of the stick again, look at the average age of tenured senators and congressmen, they're too old to be deciding for the fate of the country, they're just beefing up their retirement money and benefits before their terms all end. People need to vote for someone that will be able to relate to the more general population.

[suchmoon]

Sure "bases" want Trump, but are they going to have to pay Trump-mistake sized prices?

Some will, and as long as Trump can milk at least some part of the base - he will continue to pretend that he's running for president and the Republican establishment will have no choice but to pretend that they support him because they think they can't win without that part of the base. Trump running as independent would be their worst nightmare, and you know he'd do it just to spite everyone.

Is there a chance a guilty declaration is where an important percentage of the Republican base draws the line?

There have been many chances to draw all sorts of lines... never happened, won't happen now.

[coolcoinz]

I'm not in the US so I'm looking at how all of it goes sitting comfortably in the EU.

To those of you who say Trump is the worst candidate, would you rather have Biden? I'm not a Trump lover, but from a bitcoiner's perspective Biden has been the worst. He gave free reign to attack bitcoin because he doesn't understand it and his friend Elizabeth Warren is working hard to tell lies about bitcoin like the one about it being used to finance Islamic terrorism.

I'd support either Rob Kennedy, or Vivek, but if it came down to Trump vs Biden, I'd vote for Trump. I don't agree with him on a few things, for instance I think that the US should continue to support Ukraine, but I'd hate myself if I helped Biden win. I'd vote for Trump, or not at all.

[legiteum]

I'm not in the US so I'm looking at how all of it goes sitting comfortably in the EU.

To those of you who say Trump is the worst candidate, would you rather have Biden? I'm not a Trump lover, but from a bitcoiner's perspective Biden has been the worst. He gave free reign to attack bitcoin because he doesn't understand it and his friend Elizabeth Warren is working hard to tell lies about bitcoin like the one about it being used to finance Islamic terrorism.

I'd support either Rob Kennedy, or Vivek, but if it came down to Trump vs Biden, I'd vote for Trump. I don't agree with him on a few things, for instance I think that the US should continue to support Ukraine, but I'd hate myself if I helped Biden win. I'd vote for Trump, or not at all.

If Trump pulls the US out of NATO, which he has promised to do, then you won't be sitting comfortably in the EU anymore, and it won't matter how much your Bitcoin is worth .

Also, Bitcoin is bouncing off it's all-time highs under Biden, so I really can't imagine why you'd be against Biden if all you care about in the world is your Bitcoin price going up...

[BADecker]

I'm not in the US so I'm looking at how all of it goes sitting comfortably in the EU.

To those of you who say Trump is the worst candidate, would you rather have Biden? I'm not a Trump lover, but from a bitcoiner's perspective Biden has been the worst. He gave free reign to attack bitcoin because he doesn't understand it and his friend Elizabeth Warren is working hard to tell lies about bitcoin like the one about it being used to finance Islamic terrorism.

I'd support either Rob Kennedy, or Vivek, but if it came down to Trump vs Biden, I'd vote for Trump. I don't agree with him on a few things, for instance I think that the US should continue to support Ukraine, but I'd hate myself if I helped Biden win. I'd vote for Trump, or not at all.

If Trump pulls the US out of NATO, which he has promised to do, then you won't be sitting comfortably in the EU anymore, and it won't matter how much your Bitcoin is worth .

Also, Bitcoin is bouncing off it's all-time highs under Biden, so I really can't imagine why you'd be against Biden if all you care about in the world is your Bitcoin price going up...

Bitcoin's all-time high's existed when it was $64,000 or $65,000.

Bitcoin has come back lately, not because of Biden, but because people are expecting a Trump win, and they are preparing for it. Notice that when Tucker Carlson announced and aired his Putin video - a Trump-style free enterprise interview video - that's when Bitcoin jumped $10,000 in two weeks - from the $42-thousands to the $52-thousands.

Bitcoin has leveled off because the big Bitcoin controllers are watching how the public is reacting to Trump-style freedom. So far, more and more people are siding with Trump, even though the Deep State monkeys are doing their utmost this side of assassinating him to stop him.

As usual, we are seeing right through your propaganda.

[legiteum]

Bitcoin has come back lately, not because of Biden, but because people are expecting a Trump win, and they are preparing for it. Notice that when Tucker Carlson announced and aired his Putin video - a Trump-style free enterprise interview video - that's when Bitcoin jumped $10,000 in two weeks - from the $42-thousands to the $52-thousands.

Bitcoin has leveled off because the big Bitcoin controllers are watching how the public is reacting to Trump-style freedom. So far, more and more people are siding with Trump, even though the Deep State monkeys are doing their utmost this side of assassinating him to stop him.

So if Bitcoin goes up while Biden is president, then it's Trump's fault, but when it went down during Trump's presidency, it was Biden's fault. Sure.

Of course given Bitcoin's market volatility, the reality is that no president will make any difference in the price whatsoever, but that won't very good partisan politics I guess.

[BADecker]

Bitcoin has come back lately, not because of Biden, but because people are expecting a Trump win, and they are preparing for it. Notice that when Tucker Carlson announced and aired his Putin video - a Trump-style free enterprise interview video - that's when Bitcoin jumped $10,000 in two weeks - from the $42-thousands to the $52-thousands.

Bitcoin has leveled off because the big Bitcoin controllers are watching how the public is reacting to Trump-style freedom. So far, more and more people are siding with Trump, even though the Deep State monkeys are doing their utmost this side of assassinating him to stop him.

So if Bitcoin goes up while Biden is president, then it's Trump's fault, but when it went down during Trump's presidency, it was Biden's fault. Sure.

Of course given Bitcoin's market volatility, the reality is that no president will make any difference in the price whatsoever, but that won't very good partisan politics I guess.

As usual, you have it backwards.

How many people in the US have heard or not heard of Bitcoin? Of those who have heard, how many people use it... or other cryptocurrencies. I'm sure it's a significant number. But it isn't ANYWHERE NEAR the whole adult population.

On the other side of things, how many adults in the US use the Federal Reserve fiat note? Like almost 100%. And even those who don't use it have heard of it.

But did you notice that the value of the USDollar has gone way down with regard to what it can buy in the store? This happened under Biden's crazy rule. Trump was making America great again, which included bolstering the USD regarding its use for buying products at the store.

As usual, you are having a difficult time seeing past the end of your nose.



EDIT: Just think. If they somehow assassinate Trump, Tucker might be the natural choice. Lol.

[legiteum]

[...]
How many people in the US have heard or not heard of Bitcoin? Of those who have heard, how many people use it... or other cryptocurrencies. I'm sure it's a significant number. But it isn't ANYWHERE NEAR the whole adult population.
[...]

I can't for the life of me figure out what this has to do with my post. Can you explain?

[BADecker]

[...]
How many people in the US have heard or not heard of Bitcoin? Of those who have heard, how many people use it... or other cryptocurrencies. I'm sure it's a significant number. But it isn't ANYWHERE NEAR the whole adult population.
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I can't for the life of me figure out what this has to do with my post. Can you explain?

Well, of course it isn't surprising that you don't understand. But didn't you talk about Bitcoin and Biden in your post? My post was simply showing that if you want to credit the Bitcoin upward move to Biden, it's because Biden has destroyed the value of the USD through the inflation he has caused. In other words, the effect of the value of the dollar going down is finally being seen in Bitcoin.

You might review statistics where Biden says inflation is a small amount. But all you have to do is go to Walmart and other stores where prices of tons of things have risen 50% or more during Biden's administration.

To say it again in a different way, the price of Bitcoin hasn't gone up. Rather, the value of the dollar has gone down. And it is surprising that 'they' (whoever they are) could contain Bitcoin for this long before its value arose like the value of store products... simply because the value of the Biden dollar went down.

Hope that's not too difficult for you to understand.

[legiteum]

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My post was simply showing that if you want to credit the Bitcoin upward move to Biden, it's because Biden has destroyed the value of the USD
through the inflation he has caused.

No, I actually said above that I don't think presidents have anything to do with Bitcoin prices.

[paxmao]

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My post was simply showing that if you want to credit the Bitcoin upward move to Biden, it's because Biden has destroyed the value of the USD
through the inflation he has caused.

No, I actually said above that I don't think presidents have anything to do with Bitcoin prices.

Yes and no, a president making a statement about bitcoin could potentially increase or decrease confidence in the system, as you may think that a pro-bitcoin president would be more keen on passing legislation that would be beneficial for liquidity, easier investment (e.g. ETFs),...

However dumBAss is a mess of a thinker, he is pro bitcoin but also pro-dollar... as he is pro-liberty, but ok with Putler and the CCP, pro-US but would rather have the Republic of Texas independent, pro-US economy but happy to let China eat up the world...

Countless personalities and massive walltexting is what matters.

[Hispo]

[...]
My post was simply showing that if you want to credit the Bitcoin upward move to Biden, it's because Biden has destroyed the value of the USD
through the inflation he has caused.

No, I actually said above that I don't think presidents have anything to do with Bitcoin prices.

Yes and no, a president making a statement about bitcoin could potentially increase or decrease confidence in the system, as you may think that a pro-bitcoin president would be more keen on passing legislation that would be beneficial for liquidity, easier investment (e.g. ETFs),...

However dumBAss is a mess of a thinker, he is pro bitcoin but also pro-dollar... as he is pro-liberty, but ok with Putler and the CCP, pro-US but would rather have the Republic of Texas independent, pro-US economy but happy to let China eat up the world...

Countless personalities and massive walltexting is what matters.

To be fair. If we are talking about BADecker, he has already kidn of shown his support or pointing out how the BRICS could use their alledged United currency in order to dethrone the United States Dollar off its status of reserve currency of the world (International commerce), so I am not sure whether he is actually as pro-dollsr as you assume. He is certainly pro-Bitcoin though.
You can think whatever you want about other people and their believes, there is nothing wrong with it, but in my opinion, the most dangerous trait of people who identify themselves as Republicans, MAGAs or against liberals, is who they indeed claim to be all in for the defense of the freedom of their nation and the people around the world as a whole, while at the same time they turn away their eyes to the blatant human rights violations going on in China and Russia. 
It is the kind of hypocrisy which sadly helps civilizations to give birth to the worst regimes in the history of humanity, those who only look at the façade of pro-freedom and alledged progress which is promised by demagogs will always end up serving ad useful idiots for the dictators of tomorrow.

[BADecker]

Trump is just beginning, and is just THE beginning of Making America Great Again. Trump's plans for removing corruption in America are something that God has been formulating into the mix for a long time. Now He is even using worldly people to help with it.


ROCKSTAR RECEPTION Steve Bannon declares MAGA could 'rule for 50 years' in fiery CPAC opener


https://www.the-sun.com/news/10461743/steve-bannon-cpac-donald-trump-washington-dc/
DONALD Trump's former White House Chief of Staff Steve Bannon has declared "MAGA could rule for 50 years" at a fiery event on day one of this year's Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington, DC.

The 70-year-old former Hollywood scriptwriter-turned-political spin doctor was given a rockstar's reception as he entered the room packed with supporters - some of whom had traveled from as far away as Romania.

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