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February 24, 2024, 03:35:14 PM
Last edit: February 24, 2024, 05:43:34 PM by viljj
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Im not a big victim here, but i have spotted a group of gambling sites(same guys), that look like decent normal gambling site with no real warnings of shady stuff.
They have no licensing authority who follows their actions. But they have multiple crypto payment options available, also they have VISA and MasterCard payments available, where you can play with fiat currencies, but the payment methods are "you pay with fiat, and the merch gets cryptos for for your fiat money".

So all the payment methods lead to cryptos.. They have been doing this over a year and keep spreading opening new sites.
The scam here is they dont pay anyone winnings.

They have licenced big slot providers, sportsbook provider and poker etc... So they have real deals with real solid operators..

Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?

Feels bad when i read some of the older reviews for someone to lose over 10k£ but once the player tried to cashout 1k£, he got nothing.
And many others, multiple tens of bad reviews, and rarely people bother to write public bad review because shame and stuff..

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February 24, 2024, 03:40:44 PM
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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?
Unfortunately, no one can stop or shut down such shady sites because they know that no governmental authority will waste their time on searching for gambling sites and their locations so that's why they scam others without any worries.

Even on this forum we always alert members about such sites, a similar site 1xBit has been scamming its users for many years but no one is yet able to do anything against them. They have been running their scam empire for many years freely without any worries and yet no one can even take legal action against them.

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February 24, 2024, 03:42:39 PM
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Im not a big victim here, but i have spotted a group of gambling sites(same guys), that look like decent normal gambling site with no real warnings of shady stuff.
They have no licensing authority who follows their actions. But they have multiple crypto payment options available, also they have VISA and MasterCard payments available, where you can play with fiat currencies, but the payment methods are "you pay with fiat, and the merch gets cryptos for for your fiat money".

So all the payment methods lead to cryptos.. They have been doing this over a year and keep spreading opening new sites.
The scam here is they dont pay anyone winnings.

You should move this topic on gambling section if your goal is to discuss about the question you want to ask or scam accusation board if you want to report these guys that committing scam attempt through the use of gambling site.

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They have licenced big slot providers, sportsbook provider and poker etc... So they have real deals with real solid operators..

Any casino can add this provider easily since they are just doing profit sharing which means game providers don’t really care what kind of casino adds their games.

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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?

Reporting this to the authorities which they are located is the only way to stop this criminals. Your best chance to shut them down is when they accept users from country with strict regulators such as US and UK. They are capable in cracking down this kind of scammers online. They don’t have license so there’s no way to report them to file legal charges.

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February 24, 2024, 03:47:31 PM
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Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?

There is no way anyone can shut a casino website down, if it's not regulated and you are about to know that it's not, then there is no reason to start using such platform to gamble.

If you are looking forward to start gambling on a online casino, make sure you pick through this forum, it's not safe looking for one on your own, many fake casinos are all over the internet now, and some are using non-kyc to attract some people that like privacy way of gambling.

Don't even bother to stress yourself, there is no need to start doing research on if a casino is regulated or not, you can use stake or fortune jack, and others that are available on this forum, if they are not reputable no one will promote them.
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February 24, 2024, 03:50:47 PM
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They can create as many as they can since no one can stop them from doing that but there's a way for other people not to become a victim which is to share the scam gambling sites that you have found so that people who may encounter the site will know what to do which is to avoid it. Knowing scam gambling sites have helped me before when I still gamble and stay at the gambling sites that are legit or not scam. This should be in gambling discussion since it fit there. You should share the link so that people will know and stay away from it.

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February 24, 2024, 03:57:19 PM
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Everything has pros and cons. Both gambling sites and gaming sites have authentic projects and scam projects, we have to check and invest in all these projects. Many times we deposit money on the wrong gambling side in gambling which turns out that the gambling site is cheating us. The fault here is ours because we trust all these sites without checking. 

Fraudsters will always use new tricks to cheat but you have to be smarter than fraudsters so you can protect yourself from their cheats. If we have enough knowledge about the market and if we read the new news regularly, then we will be aware of the authentic projects and authentic sites and we will be protected from being cheated.

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February 24, 2024, 03:59:03 PM
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They can create as many as they can since no one can stop them from doing that but there's a way for other people not to become a victim which is to share the scam gambling sites that you have found so that people who may encounter the site will know what to do which is to avoid it. Knowing scam gambling sites have helped me before when I still gamble and stay at the gambling sites that are legit or not scam. This should be in gambling discussion since it fit there. You should share the link so that people will know and stay away from it.

I got you.. I have long experience with gambling sites, and never been scammed. This time i lost few bucks, but didnt get winnings.

What is your opinion - Casino guru affiliate site promotes all these casinos, doing it for years, but they marked them as 5/10, not like the worst of the worst... And their sites look really polished and very well functioning. Solid trapping sites, where many scam sites are badly made and dont look reliable at all..

Casino guru is probably banking affiliate money for promoting them? i couldnt find anyone else really promoting their sites..

Looking at the 1xbet reviews on casino.guru affiliate, which is 6.9/10. With hundreds of complaints, you can really make the conclusion that even the best affiliate sites have blood on their hands... Why wouldnt they, they probably bank a lot money out because fraudulent casinos dont have to pay anyone winnings -> more affiliate income.
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February 24, 2024, 04:01:21 PM
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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?
Unfortunately no body cares unless big money is involved or it represents a threat to a Government.  Even then, besides a ban there is often nothing they can do due to jurisdiction of the origin country of the shady business.

The solution would be simple.  As soon as the website is a known scam trap, countries can start blocking it.  They have blocked a lot of websites before, they can do this too.  But look how they 'handled' YouTube Cryptocurrency scams.  They do not really handle the situation at all and it is still happening every now and then.

To me this is very simple.  They do not care because it is Cryptocurrency and to most of the Governments it is perfect if the reputation of Bitcoin gets tainted more.

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February 24, 2024, 04:02:36 PM
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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?

Feels bad when i read some of the older reviews for someone to lose over 10k£ but once the player tried to cashout 1k£, he got nothing.
And many others, multiple tens of bad reviews, and rarely people bother to write public bad review because shame and stuff..
The people who fall victim to 1xbet are newbies. This particular organization has been around for close to a decade. It is hard to come across a good review of them. The number of reviews you read about them are complaints from customers that they have scammed - either through withholding their withdrawal or through some other means. The newbies who fall for their scams are mostly those who are drawn by the "good" odds that they offer.

There are many methods to make the sit up and one of it could be through calling them out on social media. Companies that are call out on the internet tend to get things resolved quickly. The best way to "shut" them down indirectly is to avoid them and tell your friends to tell their friends to do so too.

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February 24, 2024, 04:17:20 PM
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People have always fallen into traps, and will fall into traps, whether its gambling or something else.

What i understood now, and have understood with Askgamblers, they are scaling the rate of the casino a lot higher if they get higher affiliate payments. Askgamblers does this in a big scale. So even the most biggest affiliate sites have blood on their hands. Why wouldnt they, they rake in a lot of money because the scam casinos dont have to pay players winnings at all - it leaves a lot more money for affiliates also..

And there is no way to warn people in general.

There is definetly a market cap available for pure scams in gambling industry, if you can really get away by just taking deposits and not pay anyone and keep on doing this with no stress for the future. Sounds unfair, if you can get rich this easy and no one will be able to close down your scam operations..



Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?

There is no way anyone can shut a casino website down, if it's not regulated and you are about to know that it's not, then there is no reason to start using such platform to gamble.

If you are looking forward to start gambling on a online casino, make sure you pick through this forum, it's not safe looking for one on your own, many fake casinos are all over the internet now, and some are using non-kyc to attract some people that like privacy way of gambling.

Don't even bother to stress yourself, there is no need to start doing research on if a casino is regulated or not, you can use stake or fortune jack, and others that are available on this forum, if they are not reputable no one will promote them.

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www.duobetz.com
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www.ninbet.com
www.7bets.io
www.casiwave.com

There are few others also.. I havent found one single review of them anywhere where someone has actually got 1 payment from them
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Thanks for the update but it is incomplete without proof to provide us recognition to this such as link to the said sites so everyone in concerned could take a clear notice of it.
I don't know why the license institution Commissions do gives licence permits to these disreputable and unconfirmed organisations or individuals in requests for registration and licence permits to launch systems that hasn't been verified if it is legit and reputable as they may be disguised to the public or not.
If you go to the App stores and other software sites where apps are stationed for downloads and sites for networking, you Will be overwhelmed by malicious apps in the system that is supposed to be backed with anti fake apps technology but yet they gives them the privileges to function and even contributes to speculate and even influences the audience with their Ads that is why the scale of scammers victims is being so broaded.
Because of this people gets doubts with the real invents. This is such as the crytop which lot of scammers has been using as medium to penetrate on their victims and for the same reasons, lot of people are in doubt that crytop currency is a scamming technology.
Literarily I don't blame such sort of persons because a stich in time saves nine.

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February 24, 2024, 04:34:51 PM
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Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?

There is no way anyone can shut a casino website down, if it's not regulated and you are about to know that it's not, then there is no reason to start using such platform to gamble.

If you are looking forward to start gambling on a online casino, make sure you pick through this forum, it's not safe looking for one on your own, many fake casinos are all over the internet now, and some are using non-kyc to attract some people that like privacy way of gambling.

Don't even bother to stress yourself, there is no need to start doing research on if a casino is regulated or not, you can use stake or fortune jack, and others that are available on this forum, if they are not reputable no one will promote them.

Sites are

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casiwave
7bets
winsmania
ninbet
duobetz

There are few others also.. I havent found one single review of them anywhere where someone has actually got 1 payment from them

These sites can't be found here in the forum and for that, the DT will not be able to mark them with red trust to become untrustworthy for anyone to sign in. They are operating outside this forum which they can freely just do on social media and other networks where users will not be aware of the warning.

But maybe you can try going into the review sites and counter what good was it said on them since they paid for those users to write good reviews for them.
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Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?
This is exactly what I wanted to asked, reporting a site pr group of gambling platforms without dropping link to the casino are just like an empty warning because no one can know which casino they being warned of and can’t take precautions to avoid falling victim to such casino and such link could also be used to as proof and evidence to stop, report such casino and they could also be investigated to know if what the Op is saying is really true or not.

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Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?
This is exactly what I wanted to asked, reporting a site pr group of gambling platforms without dropping link to the casino are just like an empty warning because no one can know which casino they being warned of and can’t take precautions to avoid falling victim to such casino and such link could also be used to as proof and evidence to stop, report such casino and they could also be investigated to know if what the Op is saying is really true or not.

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Where is the link of the website? How do you expect me to believe that the website is just like you described?
This is exactly what I wanted to asked, reporting a site pr group of gambling platforms without dropping link to the casino are just like an empty warning because no one can know which casino they being warned of and can’t take precautions to avoid falling victim to such casino and such link could also be used to as proof and evidence to stop, report such casino and they could also be investigated to know if what the Op is saying is really true or not.
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I will suggest you edit the first page which you brought about this scam to our notice and add this links so that others can be able to identify it and see where you are pointing at.

And to make the link safer from newbies clicking on them by mistake I will suggest you make the link to appear in form of quote or code so that they can’t easily be clicked on unless copied and opened in a browser.

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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?
Unfortunately, no one can stop or shut down such shady sites because they know that no governmental authority will waste their time on searching for gambling sites and their locations so that's why they scam others without any worries.

The crypto gambling space is not properly regulated this is why we need to be careful when choosing them. It is difficult to track and close down crypto gambling sites because most of them are not within the jurisdiction of some countries. It is easier to clamp down on physical casinos than crypto casinos because the former has office locations in some countries. 


This casino caught my attention because it sounds like one of a the reputable casinos in this forum. One of the signs we should look out for is that some of this scam casinos will name the casino to sound like a well known one. This strategy is to attract unsuspecting gamblers that will mistake this fake one for the original casino.

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February 24, 2024, 06:21:19 PM
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Im wondering, can scams like this just keep on going? who could shut scams like this down?
Unfortunately, no one can stop or shut down such shady sites because they know that no governmental authority will waste their time on searching for gambling sites and their locations so that's why they scam others without any worries.

The crypto gambling space is not properly regulated this is why we need to be careful when choosing them. It is difficult to track and close down crypto gambling sites because most of them are not within the jurisdiction of some countries. It is easier to clamp down on physical casinos than crypto casinos because the former has office locations in some countries.  


This casino caught my attention because it sounds like one of a the reputable casinos in this forum. One of the signs we should look out for is that some of this scam casinos will name the casino to sound like a well known one. This strategy is to attract unsuspecting gamblers that will mistake this fake one for the original casino.

The scary thing with these casinos is they have someone who really knows how to design the sites looking trustworthy. They have daily live-chat from 6am to midnight.
Everything seems correct and fun. But they never pay out anyone.
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February 24, 2024, 06:34:25 PM
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Thats bad.. 1xbet is promoted everywhere.. They are probably banking fortunes.. Allthough.. They also use Fiat currencies.. Why online wallets cant freeze their assets?
Why no one for years have done anything about 1xbet if its only a pure scam?

Can you transfer this to approriate genre?
I suggest you to move it to scam accusation board or gambling discussion board. 1xBet might be affiliated with 1xBit or the owner might be the same guy. They have huge bankroll and they might have their personal legal advisors as well.

Online wallets aren't able to freeze someone's wallets because they know how to perform the transaction stuff and they might have multiple accounts at multiple banks with help of those they might be accepting fiat currencies.

As far as I know most countries don't really care about gamblers and they don't have any legal laws against gambling sites, and most members change their location with help of a VPN to those countries in order to use a casino. The casinos mostly the shady ones can take advantage of that thing and steal the money of the users.

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February 24, 2024, 10:06:28 PM
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Casino guru is probably banking affiliate money for promoting them? i couldnt find anyone else really promoting their sites..
That's more likely the case. If they are the only one who has a review about that casino then I think they are paid to give a review and in order not to make it obvious that they are paid then they didn't give high score but rather give an average score which is in the middle so that people will think that it is not a biased review and paid review. I think they really did earn from their affiliates besides the money they are paid to give a review.

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No one can stop them but the authorities if they're ever reported and also to their provides. Once they're busted, that's also one reason for them to stop. These casinos are also trying their luck if there will be some victims that are going to test them out and will deposit money on them. From there, they're going to show that they're legit and then when the time of withdrawal comes. That's how they're going to surprise these victims that there will be some additional methods and processes that they need to fill for them to ask and will delay it as much as they can.

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