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February 24, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
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I am unsure if this conversation has taken place here before and what diverse opinions the community holds. Nevertheless, I wish to express that I do not believe in the concept of a bitcoin monastery. While it may seem interesting, it is not something that is not practical. In a YouTube interview I recently watched, the interviewee discussed 'Bitcoin monasteries' as a metaphor for merging technology with spiritual leadership, proposing a vision of utilizing technology constructively under spiritual guidance. Although I am not an atheist, I strongly believe that bitcoin remains neutral in terms of spirituality, gods, and metaphysical forces. Therefore, we should employ bitcoin according to our personal moral principles and not bring in any sort of spiritual perspective to it. What is you take on bitcoin monastery?
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You would think spirituality and technology would never get mixed up but here you go.

I rather think it is a mistake to mix them up.  The term 'Bitcoin Monastery' itself feels very wrong and leans toward a cult like behavior.  I would never support this particularly due to how it sounds and how it defeats what religion or spirituality supports.

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February 24, 2024, 04:10:30 PM
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Although I would like Bitcoin is Bitcoin and wish that it will be less used for wrong things, life is life and practically people are free to do what they want if it is legally.

I wish Bitcoin will less be used as tools of some people for their shady activities by that I mean like religion can be used for wrong and shady activities by bad people whilst religion is not bad by itself.

Bitcoin Monastery can be a thing will be abused by bad people.

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February 24, 2024, 04:15:39 PM
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BTC is a 'free' currency, so you do not need spiritual guidance or any sort of permission to use BTC, i do not believe in the concept of BTC monasteries or the connection between the BTC technology and spirituality or religion. BTC is a tool that can be used for good or bad, just like fiat, the internet, banks, etc, the people who use these tools for bad purposes are the ones that should be targeted and not the tools in themselves.

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February 24, 2024, 04:16:01 PM
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Bitcoin Monastery sounds strange to me and I would never support it because it's not a benefit of someone beliefs but it's most likely a way to get attention of those who have true beliefs of a religion. It's like trying to take advantage of the religious people by using the name of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin in itself is a crypto-currency and it has nothing to do with someone belief system. A priest can use Bitcoin similarly as an atheist or a communist. Bitcoin is free from all such things so it makes no sense to me to have a Bitcoin Monastery.

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February 24, 2024, 04:21:52 PM
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What is you take on bitcoin monastery?

I think it's some crazy idea from the depths of Internet that I would never hear about if you didn't create this topic. People just love combining completely separate topics just to see what would happen and this is one of those cases. What are people going to do in Bitcoin monasteries? Pray for Bitcoin to go up? Who will fund them? What services will they provide?
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February 24, 2024, 04:23:57 PM
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Therefore, we should employ bitcoin according to our personal moral principles and not bring in any sort of spiritual perspective to it. What is you take on bitcoin monastery?
People who are very spiritual will always find ways to make everything they get involved in spiritual or fix spirituality into every activity. In my logic, this is also another example of someone trying to fix spirituality into bitcoins whereas it is far from it. If people start using technology under the guardians of spirituality you will see that the spiritual head may begin to abuse this privilege of being in charge of other people under his spiritual guardiancy. That should not be how it should be. Things should be between you and your bitcoins, not between you, your bitcoins and any other spiritual head.
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February 24, 2024, 04:39:05 PM
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In a YouTube interview I recently watched, the interviewee discussed 'Bitcoin monasteries' as a metaphor for merging technology with spiritual leadership, proposing a vision of utilizing technology constructively under spiritual guidance.
Bitcoin is immune to regulations and centralization even from spiritual leadership.

I have not heard anything of this before on this forum or any other one and I think it would be best if we do not promote it, cause it promoted the idea that we are running a cult like organization.

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February 25, 2024, 04:18:49 PM
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You would think spirituality and technology would never get mixed up but here you go.

I rather think it is a mistake to mix them up.  The term 'Bitcoin Monastery' itself feels very wrong and leans toward a cult like behavior.  I would never support this particularly due to how it sounds and how it defeats what religion or spirituality supports.
You wouldn't believe how shocked I was as I watched the interview. I think I am familiar with how this works. These folks would establish a bitcoin monastery where a self-appointed leader would emerge. He or she would then lead the group in a cult-like manner, such like an "in-group out-group" dynamic. Eventually, they attract significant media attention so much that their sentiments begin to influence the market price of bitcoin in subtle ways.

This should never be supported or promoted.
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Ah I'm sure there would be some gullible people who would get sucked into something
as non-sensible as a Bitcoin Monastery.

Of course anyone is free to set up something which is not illegal but I would hope anyone
considering getting involved would think twice.

I could only imagine the people looking to set something like this would be looking at
relieving others of their money or Bitcoin.

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February 25, 2024, 04:52:41 PM
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I think I've seen that one in my YouTube suggestions before, it seems to be a really good but I haven't got around watching this one. But basing on your topic, the thing that I can say about this is we've got a lot of science fiction stories out there that have talked about the merge of spirituality and science and there's not a lot of them that's talked about the merging in a positive way, at least from what I've read and watched, the closest thing that I can think of that talks in a positive way is the theme of Fullmetal Alchemist (manga) and the negative one is probably Warhammer 40k Universe.

Personally, I think that spirituality and bitcoin should be different or at least will only coexist and not mix together, and I don't think it's a good idea that there's people out there that's basically building a cult surrounding bitcoin, it's not a good image for bitcoin.

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February 25, 2024, 05:24:07 PM
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My thoughts with this is that, I think that they're just trying to build something where every bitcoin investor can gather up together on that temple and have their celebrations, meetups or any type of gatherings.

But I don't even think it's a good idea and if someone is gonna invite me there, I wouldn't even go. Mixing it up with spirituality, you'd see it for every thing that there's a monetary benefit thinking that praying for it to their gods would help them cope up with any updates and to have financial blessings.

Honestly, it's the first time I've heard of this concept.

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February 25, 2024, 05:44:06 PM
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Therefore, we should employ bitcoin according to our personal moral principles and not bring in any sort of spiritual perspective to it. What is you take on bitcoin monastery?
I thought you must be using the monastery as a metaphor to represent BTC enthusiasts but you were talking about religious ones, I also think we should keep BTC away from religion but that's not up to us, if one person wants to inscribe religious beliefs in BTC and wants to follow that way, just because that person thinks his/her religion is guiding him the right way and by following that way he can also leverage BTC technology to propose different visions then that's ok and should be left on that person. But considering the other angle which is a cult will be made where people would follow the one leader, and act upon that leader's wish then that's not good.

Because this will make it centralized, while it is not by nature, I suggest you to provide us with the link to that YT video so we could get some idea about what you really are talking about, I got not so much after reading your post, but cult is bad but religious belief might not be.
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I am unsure if this conversation has taken place here before and what diverse opinions the community holds. Nevertheless, I wish to express that I do not believe in the concept of a bitcoin monastery. While it may seem interesting, it is not something that is not practical. In a YouTube interview I recently watched, the interviewee discussed 'Bitcoin monasteries' as a metaphor for merging technology with spiritual leadership, proposing a vision of utilizing technology constructively under spiritual guidance. Although I am not an atheist, I strongly believe that bitcoin remains neutral in terms of spirituality, gods, and metaphysical forces. Therefore, we should employ bitcoin according to our personal moral principles and not bring in any sort of spiritual perspective to it. What is you take on bitcoin monastery?

Nope! I don't go with that idea! Individual spirituality is fine and needed, but spiritual leaders made it a business. If someone wants to follow spirituality that's fine, but when someone promises you to run you through that path, that's where the problem begins.

let the technology leave alone, please! Do not bring spirituality into it. They don't get well together so don't try to mix them together. Bitcoin is a technology and let it flourish as a technology only.

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I am unsure if this conversation has taken place here before and what diverse opinions the community holds. Nevertheless, I wish to express that I do not believe in the concept of a bitcoin monastery. While it may seem interesting, it is not something that is not practical. In a YouTube interview I recently watched, the interviewee discussed 'Bitcoin monasteries' as a metaphor for merging technology with spiritual leadership, proposing a vision of utilizing technology constructively under spiritual guidance. Although I am not an atheist, I strongly believe that bitcoin remains neutral in terms of spirituality, gods, and metaphysical forces. Therefore, we should employ bitcoin according to our personal moral principles and not bring in any sort of spiritual perspective to it. What is you take on bitcoin monastery?

Could you post a link to that interview OP? It sounds so stupid that it actually could be quite entertaining to watch. Was the person interviewed even a well-known person within the community, or some spiritual guru wannabe that popped up overnight?

Bitcoin is in the stage of breaking mainstream and the very last thing it needs right now is to create some sort of cult around it. I can't even imagine who would act as those "spiritual leaders" you mentioned, anyone trying to act like one would be instantly ostracised by the community.

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I've never heard of Bitcoin monestery before and I wish that the OP had shared a link for us that don't know it to have a better understanding of what it's all about,  but from what he said about it, I don't think that it's what we can take seriously, just my opinion. Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency and it's something that we can confirm physically in our wallet and Blockchain, so I don't see anything spiritual or supernatural about it, the internet where Bitcoin transaction is done is an open space and I don't see any reason why it can be attributed to some secrecy or occult, if there's anything like that, then it's yet to be made public and I won't lose sleep over it.

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I've never heard of Bitcoin monestery before and I wish that the OP had shared a link for us that don't know it to have a better understanding of what it's all about,  but from what he said about it, I don't think that it's what we can take seriously, just my opinion. Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency and it's something that we can confirm physically in our wallet and Blockchain, so I don't see anything spiritual or supernatural about it, the internet where Bitcoin transaction is done is an open space and I don't see any reason why it can be attributed to some secrecy or occult, if there's anything like that, then it's yet to be made public and I won't lose sleep over it.

First and foremost, bitcoin is not under in any of spiritual beliefs because it has nothing to do with any spiritual beliefs. This is why people from all walks of life, with different religions/beliefs are all welcome here. In such a way that we can always have borderless transactions not interrupted with religion or any belief from someone.

Also, been here long time but I haven't encountered any group or thread mentioning about bitcoin monastery, because for one, no one will support such cause. Basically, we are free to act on how we do things here and not bound by any religious or spiritual beliefs. I believe this is one of the reasons why people are appreciating this market, as there is no discrimination here. No racism or whatever, where people can do what he needs to do on his own accord, and at the same time, can do transactions anonymously.

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Bitcoin monastery would have sounded nice if bitcoin isn't a decentralized coin. We should not be talking about monastery in an open source decentralized coin. In a pure monastery system, there's a high concentrated, esteemed and almighty head which controls everything in the system. Who will assume this almighty status, since Satoshi isn't around. The foundation of bitcoin is laid pure on codes (C++) and it's maintenance is in the hands of the people and not a group of monks. So, can we discuss the bitcoin ETF and other related news and forget this monastery of a thing?

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February 25, 2024, 10:55:05 PM
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You would think spirituality and technology would never get mixed up but here you go.

I rather think it is a mistake to mix them up.  The term 'Bitcoin Monastery' itself feels very wrong and leans toward a cult like behavior.  I would never support this particularly due to how it sounds and how it defeats what religion or spirituality supports.
I feel the same but if they really want to have something like this then they should have created their own crypto of their own for that purpose instead of using bitcoin or mixing bitcoin with spirituality. I can't imagine what will happen if it is mixed with bitcoin and it really does feel like a cult or something like that if it ever happen. Well, I think there's no point in continuing with it and would rather believe in what bitcoin is made for or what people think it is made for.

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