World fight over resources don't live in country where is a lot natural resource

[shinratensei_]

such a lame take in my opinion about this.
most of the problem you mentioned ought to be caused by greed, you can be living in country where there are lot of natural resources and would still be poor.

also, are you sure that you can easily just dipped and switch over to other countries like you mentioned I don't think so, if there's no real conflict going on or because you are overly paranoid big fat chance
the country you're trying to go to is not gonna accept you as a refuge seeker.
moreover imagine switching over from place with a lot of natural resources only to end up starving in another place that will be ridiculous.

it'd be wiser if you can manage the resources maybe do yourself a favor try to climb up that politic ladder or something.

[sunsilk]

Since the old ages, this is what exactly is happening. Taking over territories for the resources that country has. But why will you discourage people living there if that's the place they can live?

Not everyone can easily adapt to new challenges and changes where they are going to live next. That's why even if there are places that are in poverty but has natural resources, they choose to stay there and live quietly and peacefully.

The world is vast and not every place that has these natural resources will be taken over by someone or some countries.

[Casdinyard]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.
Very wealthy people want always reaources to control and you live there when countries fight over resources it's like you are innocent person wrong place wrong time.

If you was born into risky country just look around If there is resources and good feritile land and good resources like oil then grow up and Leave right to way becouse sooner or later If your country not strong and stable like Canada or USA you run into problems wars and corruptions.
Don't be victim always check your surroundings and escape best countries will be stable consumers but not producers


But Also world is about who will work and who not work
Think about those who not wish to work they have a lot expenses to be paid that's one thing.
Even If all the oil or other natural resources they steal and take still not enough becouse once you have allready very expensive lifestyle you need more and you find out you run out of money.
Now that the banks tightening the money policiy more it will be harder for rich also now they need to let their company to do work with less money and less workers.

Isn't that a full-on concept already in the form of refugees? But the thing is that you just can't jump to countries whenever you want even if your country's in shambles and is war-torn. Money is still just as important if not even more when there's a conflict, and for the most part a large portion of people who are able to jump to more favorable places before war could ravage their place are only able to do so because they had money, for the rest of the population you better hope that international efforts were put in place for you, else you're stuck to fend for yourself and your family in your country.

And even if you're able to find refuge in a different place the difficulties don't end there, you gotta understand that prejudice, racism, and other societal issues will become a norm of your life soon as you land, even worse if the country you're looking to find refuge in is like the US who is very particular with the people they let in, I mean they don't even allow Mexicans to cross the border all because they don't have papers to show for it. That's fucking stupid in my opinion, yet it's a reality that people will have to deal with once they decide to move out.

So as you can see, finding refuge for whatever reason isn't as easy as planning an out of the country trip to whatever country you're looking at. There's multitudes of issues and layers of challenges that you would have to overcome to even get the chance to set foot to your new place.

[Spaceman1000$]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.
Very wealthy people want always reaources to control and you live there when countries fight over resources it's like you are innocent person wrong place wrong time.

If you was born into risky country just look around If there is resources and good feritile land and good resources like oil then grow up and Leave right to way becouse sooner or later If your country not strong and stable like Canada or USA you run into problems wars and corruptions.
Don't be victim always check your surroundings and escape best countries will be stable consumers but not producers


But Also world is about who will work and who not work
Think about those who not wish to work they have a lot expenses to be paid that's one thing.
Even If all the oil or other natural resources they steal and take still not enough becouse once you have allready very expensive lifestyle you need more and you find out you run out of money.
Now that the banks tightening the money policiy more it will be harder for rich also now they need to let their company to do work with less money and less workers.

Op, there are some lapses in your write-up but however If I try to get you right, your talking about people going out of their home country to other countries so as not to be victims of circumstances. "circumstances" in this case are treasure hunters and people that will do anything just to take your natural resource from your home land not minding who's ox is gored. However these set of persons that are treasure hunters can be checkmated if you have leaders in power that can able to forestall any form of exploration and exploitation from people around the world.

We are not in the medieval age where people will just intrude a territory and try to control over the resources of that territory, however we are in a modern society with high level of civility and social cultural activities that are currently taking place. So some of these resource control can only happen if those people collaborate with the leaders of your country to milk out your natural resource. So we need leaders that are proactive enough to understand the needs of their people and not use what is for the people and give it to somebody else, making the people to leave their home country and go out in pursuit of greener pasture in another country when the pasture is actually greener in their homeland.

[Natsuu]

This is true. Living in a place with lots of resources sounds cool but it can mean a bunch of power struggles and corruption. If your country isn't stable, you might end up in the middle of some messy problems. Also, think about those who don't feel like working like having a lavish lifestyle can get pricey and with banks being stricter about money, even the rich folks need to tighten their belts. It's a mix of finding a stable place and not overspending, you know?

[Renampun]

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But Also world is about who will work and who not work
Think about those who not wish to work they have a lot expenses to be paid that's one thing.
Even If all the oil or other natural resources they steal and take still not enough becouse once you have allready very expensive lifestyle you need more and you find out you run out of money.
Now that the banks tightening the money policiy more it will be harder for rich also now they need to let their company to do work with less money and less workers.

I know that what you say is all good but how can I go to another country when I already have a family and 2 small children lol, actually the problem of life's difficulties, it's not evenly distributed in my country, some areas seem to be very difficult to get money, but in some areas getting money looks very easy, The point is wherever you want to live, opportunities will always be there, so don't hesitate to take advantage of them, don't wait until the government changes your life because that will never happen, keep working hard - smart - consistent.

[arimamib]

This is true. Living in a place with lots of resources sounds cool but it can mean a bunch of power struggles and corruption. If your country isn't stable, you might end up in the middle of some messy problems. Also, think about those who don't feel like working like having a lavish lifestyle can get pricey and with banks being stricter about money, even the rich folks need to tighten their belts. It's a mix of finding a stable place and not overspending, you know?

In regions where resources are plentiful, competition for control and access to these resources can sometimes lead to instability and conflict. even in resource-rich areas, economic stability is not guaranteed. Factors such as government policies, market fluctuations, and global economic trends can all impact the financial well-being of individuals and communities.

Maintaining a lavish lifestyle can be costly, and even affluent individuals may find themselves facing financial constraints, especially in times of economic uncertainty. In such environments, finding a balance between enjoying the benefits of resources and exercising prudent financial management is a better option. This includes being mindful of overspending, saving for the future, and adapting to changing economic conditions.

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Does corruption really only increase in countries that have natural resources, or are the fights you're talking about? What you said applies to some countries, but not all countries. Because if we see most of the countries in the Middle East which are full of oil and gas resources have developed them in a very short period of time, now they have reduced their dependence on natural resources and started investing in other sectors. In this case, it has been seen that many countries have become successful.
Moreover, even if the country where I live has natural resources, it is not that much. And besides my countries don't have natural resources yet they are riddled with corruption and debt defaults, like Sri Lanka. So I can't completely agree with you.

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Does corruption really only increase in countries that have natural resources, or are the fights you're talking about? What you said applies to some countries, but not all countries. Because if we see most of the countries in the Middle East which are full of oil and gas resources have developed them in a very short period, now they have reduced their dependence on natural resources and started investing in other sectors. In this case, it has been seen that many countries have become successful.
Moreover, even if the country where I live has natural resources, it is not that much. And besides my countries don't have natural resources yet they are riddled with corruption and debt defaults, like Sri Lanka. So I can't completely agree with you.

The original post contains some basic truth but not all the information is valid. In places like Africa and some parts of the Middle East which have enough resources, it is common to experience conflicts sponsored by superpowers who want to exploit. It is easy to finance or support some groups to destabilize the country to enable these superpowers to control these natural resources. There is always control or power tussle between world powers over any developing nation that owns large amounts of minerals.

But this is not always the case because a lack of natural resources could also make a country poor. Some countries that have natural resources have also maximized it for the betterment of the people. These nations have also been able to play international politics that have shielded the country from external influence. Countries like South Africa and Egypt have been able to balance international influence and national interest.

[kentrolla]

Sorry if I sound rude but I don't find any logic here, it's not easy job to shift from one country to another and what's the guarantee that the country you are relocating wouldn't have any problems or conflicts ? Ukraine is one of the best example as people used to go there to study MBBS as it was relatively safe but then started Russian Invasion, same goes with people who have travelled from their nation to western or European nations and still live miserable life. Good governance can change things nd leaving country and moving to another country is never a solution.

[DrBeer]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.
Very wealthy people want always reaources to control and you live there when countries fight over resources it's like you are innocent person wrong place wrong time.

If you was born into risky country just look around If there is resources and good feritile land and good resources like oil then grow up and Leave right to way becouse sooner or later If your country not strong and stable like Canada or USA you run into problems wars and corruptions.
Don't be victim always check your surroundings and escape best countries will be stable consumers but not producers


But Also world is about who will work and who not work
Think about those who not wish to work they have a lot expenses to be paid that's one thing.
Even If all the oil or other natural resources they steal and take still not enough becouse once you have allready very expensive lifestyle you need more and you find out you run out of money.
Now that the banks tightening the money policiy more it will be harder for rich also now they need to let their company to do work with less money and less workers.

That's where you're wrong, I'll clarify.
1. You have to live surrounded by normal neighbors. This applies to your home and your country.
2. No one is attacking resource countries now.... There is no point in organizing a massacre if you can buy it all, and a resource country becomes a resource appendage. And the ultimate beneficiary does not need to manage the population, think about social programs - it will bring the necessary resource - "neatly mined, cleaned and nicely folded" )

Wars nowadays are unleashed by rulers/people who either have complexes, or they are controlled and support terrorists or religious fanatics.

[Volimack]

As far as I can imagine even if there is a lot of wealth if the place is messy and fighting then no one can live a decent life there. Everything will be politically involved and the people will be deprived of all opportunities. In this way the tyranny of the strong on the weak will continue to increase. The rich consider themselves superpowers in all areas that is they think that they own all the power and wealth. All areas of society are covered in corruption.

[pooya87]

LOL
Leave and go where? Another country where they have no natural resources and have import it?
You do realize that if war breaks out in regions with natural resources that the destination country imports, the price of it shoots to the moon and there will be scarcity. Then you'd wish you never left

We saw a small preview of it over the past two years with multiple crisis after crisis just because there were tensions between NATO and Russia and that involved oil, gas and food.

The actual solution is to amass strength enough in the country with resources so nobody has the balls to look at you funny
That's the path we chose anyway...

[Asuspawer09]

I mean you have a point actually, it is already happening here in my country in the Philippines if you are aware of the West Philippines Sea and Scarborough Shoal, if we are going to look at the conflict here it's kinda obvious what was the motive here since this part of the seas is full of resources. To be honest it's kinda scary sometimes knowing that at any moment there are always chances that a war might start in your own country.

I've already thought about it, the thing is it is always great to have a backup plan just in case because in case the war actually starts its we are kinda unlucky about it, the backup plan, in my opinion, is having dual citizenship on some other country that be safer compared the country that you are living in, in case of emergency you could always go to the other country.

Money is always a thing here since it's going to be expensive to have that kind of plan, having other citizens also needed some kind of connection, so for most of the people they can't really do anything about it, I mean its not like we have a choice something like that because we can't really pick what country you want to be born in.

[DrBeer]

I mean you have a point actually, it is already happening here in my country in the Philippines if you are aware of the West Philippines Sea and Scarborough Shoal, if we are going to look at the conflict here it's kinda obvious what was the motive here since this part of the seas is full of resources. To be honest it's kinda scary sometimes knowing that at any moment there are always chances that a war might start in your own country.

I've already thought about it, the thing is it is always great to have a backup plan just in case because in case the war actually starts its we are kinda unlucky about it, the backup plan, in my opinion, is having dual citizenship on some other country that be safer compared the country that you are living in, in case of emergency you could always go to the other country.

Money is always a thing here since it's going to be expensive to have that kind of plan, having other citizens also needed some kind of connection, so for most of the people they can't really do anything about it, I mean its not like we have a choice something like that because we can't really pick what country you want to be born in.

The conflict you mentioned was provoked by China. And this is the key point. The fact is that any totalitarian regimes, or those following the path of totalitarianism (and China has chosen this path), leads to increased tension within such a country. China has huge problems in the economy, China has disgusting development prospects, China has competitors, and the West is turning away from China. And all this together increases the temperature inside, and there is a non-zero option for uncontrolled developments, up to the forceful elimination of the ruling regime by the population of the country.
And one of the options to “blow off steam” or divert the attention of a dissatisfied population from real problems is WAR. Small, medium, large - it doesn’t matter. The second goal is to satisfy the painful complexes of the rulers. Therefore, unfortunately, China’s neighbors need to be prepared for such provocations...

[iBaba]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.
Very wealthy people want always reaources to control and you live there when countries fight over resources it's like you are innocent person wrong place wrong time.

If you was born into risky country just look around If there is resources and good feritile land and good resources like oil then grow up and Leave right to way becouse sooner or later If your country not strong and stable like Canada or USA you run into problems wars and corruptions.
Don't be victim always check your surroundings and escape best countries will be stable consumers but not producers

I can say that I am a living testimony to this fact. I call it a fact because that is what it is when you live in a country abundant in natural resources, especially if the country is underdeveloped or in the process of development. I'll give an example with my own country, Nigeria. In Nigeria, there is an abundance of crude oil, and because of that abundance, the government has heavily relied on crude oil exports, which has made our economy vulnerable to fluctuations in fuel pump prices and has deeply contributed to our economic downturn.

In Nigeria right now, amidst the economic and security crises, I can confidently say that Nigeria is one of those countries currently suffering at a worldwide scale. If you look at it clearly, all these issues stem from the natural resources endowed in our country. The government has decided to overly depend on these resources without looking for alternatives, even though we have alternative sources like agriculture.

Due to the discovery of crude oil in Nigeria, which was discovered in commercial quantities around 1956 in a village called Oloibiri in the Niger Delta region of the country, country has continuously relied on crude oil up to today. I can say that over 80% of our revenues, especially export earnings, come from oil revenues. This is why there is a lot of corruption among government officials, with everybody seeking to own an oil block or other for personal benefits, names which we don't have to mention.

Now, imagine if Nigeria were a developed country like the United States of America or the United Kingdom. Do you really think there would be that exploitation or corruption happening at such a high level? This corruption has caused a serious gap between the leaders and the followers, in the sense that the leaders do not really understand the economic hardships that the followers or the masses are experiencing. And even if they do, they don't care because all they are focused on is how they can secure their own bags without bringing a permanent or long-lasting solution to these problems.

[Argoo]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.

If you look at Russia, your theory does not work in this case. Natural resources, including oil and gas reserves, are colossal. The soil is fertile. Until recently, the country was considered one of the strongest in the world. But it is not under attack for its natural resources. She wages constant wars with her neighbors in order to further annex foreign territories. Moreover, it also once conquered territories that are rich in oil and gas. But all great empires fail sooner or later.
We live in such a world that if a country has good natural resources, we need to be able to protect them, and not move away from it.

[pooya87]

I can say that over 80% of our revenues, especially export earnings, come from oil revenues. This is why there is a lot of corruption among government officials, with everybody seeking to own an oil block or other for personal benefits, names which we don't have to mention.

This is a contributing factor to corruption among officials but it is not the only reason.
When talking about anywhere in Africa we are talking about countries that have endured long years of colonization followed by wars, dictatorships and instability.
You are more familiar with the history but from what I know, Nigeria only gained its independence (not even full independence) in the 60's and then entered years of internal conflicts and civil wars until about 2000.
It is well expected to see corruption, economic hardship, less development, etc.

Now, imagine if Nigeria were a developed country like the United States of America or the United Kingdom. Do you really think there would be that exploitation or corruption happening at such a high level?

There is corruption everywhere. As for development, they are developed because they colonized others and stole their resources not because they didn't have any corruption!

[Marvelman]

Try to not live in country where is the a lot resources.
Even the food oil gas and other natural resources.
Becouse nations and group of people fight over this.
And If you stay there you will be in the middle of the power greed and corruption.

If you look at Russia, your theory does not work in this case. Natural resources, including oil and gas reserves, are colossal. The soil is fertile. Until recently, the country was considered one of the strongest in the world. But it is not under attack for its natural resources. She wages constant wars with her neighbors in order to further annex foreign territories. Moreover, it also once conquered territories that are rich in oil and gas. But all great empires fail sooner or later.
We live in such a world that if a country has good natural resources, we need to be able to protect them, and not move away from it.

Russia's whole deal is pretty complicated.  On one hand, yeah, they've got a crapload of natural resources, which are super important.  But it's not just about whats under the ground - access to warm farmland matters too.  See Russia's got all these minerals and oil and stuff trapped under these massive frozen wastelands up north.  It's really hard and expensive to drill that stuff up and  so getting control of more temperate southern lands makes it way easier for them to tap into the riches. 

But resources aren't the whole story either.  Geopolitical power and history play their parts in why Russia is always looking to expand.  They see themselves as a major world player, and some of their leaders just plain want to control more territory and people, regardless of what resources are or arent there.  It's about ambition and ego as much as economics.

So yeah, complex situation.  No simple explanations for why Putin does what he does. Resources, land, power, pride...  The motivations are multifaceted.

[Ever-young]

It's up to the government of these resource-rich countries to manage it and use it wisely. Most of the corruption starts when you elect incompetent officials who have nothing to contribute but everything to gain. At the end of it all, it's the people who are responsible on what happens with the resources their country has.

This is exactly it, it’s left with the govement to manage the resources properly and not the citizen, a lot of Africa countries are blessed with multiple resources which can make them be independent and don’t want anything from any country if they channel the resources very well, but greed and selfishness won’t allow them develop their country rather they will focus on self development and stealing the resources for their own person gain.