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February 25, 2024, 09:19:49 PM
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Hello, Bitcointalk!

Imagine being able to play in any crypto casino of your choice and reap additional rewards regardless of the platform.
CryptoFreebie.io is here to give the players all of that.

Over the years of being part of the online gambling sector as whole, we have witnessed a lot of predatory approaches and unethical marketing techniques.

Tackling the issues:
Some affiliate marketers do not honor their deals and people are constantly trying to rip off other people. Even the random ads and banners you see everyday on the web that lead players to casinos are predatory in our point of view.
When described in such a manner, it suggests that players are being exploited without receiving any benefits in the long run. A lot of players are undervalued and tend to get stuck with the bitter end. Even players try to hustle the casinos by creating alternative accounts. Either to refer themselves to try to take some advantage over the casino or creating multiple accounts to abuse promotions.

So in other words - We believe that many players are undervalued and deserve more. We also understand the casinos views on promotional abuse and multi-account policies.
So let's find a common ground together!


The idea:

CryptoFreebie is an informational doorway to cryptocurrency gambling in general. We believe that cryptocurrency gambling is truly the best form of gambling.
After 16 years of experience in the online gambling sector it's safe to say that the most important part of gambling for the player is receiving their withdraws.
Many fiat currency casinos have regulations that cause unnecessary stress when it comes to withdrawing your winnings. Also a lot of absurd rules to try to milk the player as much as possible.
Gambling in all it forms should be simple and fair, if you deposit and risk your own funds, then you should be allowed to withdraw your winnings. It's just morally wrong for casinos to use all sorts of tactics to avoid payouts.

Mission:

We create value for the players and the community by giving them extra rewards and a reason to stick around.
Limiting the alternative account scene. Choosing CryptoFreebie will offer players greater benefits than creating alt accounts. Our rates are exclusive.

Vision:

Raise public awareness.
Bring positive vibes to the crypto gambling community.
Secure more partner casino deals and listen to the public opinion.
CryptoFreebie brand development.
Create additional jobs and grow the team.
More advanced website, that has a log-in panel with the possibility of live statistics across all platforms and automatic rewards.

Why choose CryptoFreebie?

A straight 70% kickback to the player directly and 10% to the CryptoFreebie community.
We will start with this model and we will ensure that these percentages will not decrease. Depending on the project's popularity, we may increase the rewards in the future.
There is also a VIP program.

How is the kickback rewarded?

Players associated with CryptoFreebie will receive their rewards every Sunday of the week.
In addition to weekly rewards, there will be monthly rewards, which we aim to process during the first week of each new month.
The full terms and conditions of CryptoFreebie can be found here - https://cryptofreebie.io/terms-and-conditions/
We use databases to ensure that the rates and rewards are honored as promised.
Players can also feel free to contact our support if they need a detailed explanation of their rewards calculations.

Target audience:

Mostly for players who are already familiar with the gambling scene such as:
Gamblers who do not know about about crypto casinos.
Players who feel undervalued and lack rewards.
Last but not least, new players to the scene can be sure that they are in good hands with CryptoFreebie.

Our plan is not to influence the players decision to discard their current casino accounts.
That decision is entirely up to the individual and it is their free will to do so.
To find out how much the players can benefit by using CryptoFreebie they should do the math themselves.
Be advised that the rates displayed on cryptofreebie.io also come with the said platform rules. For example, Stake has an additional rule of "/2" in their formula.
The rate we display in the partner section of our site is the rate we currently have with the said operator.

What does CryptoFreebie get for providing it's services?

CryptoFreebie keeps only 20% of the crypto currency generated by the players.
It will be used to reward the team - the workload is no joke and everything associated with the project is time consuming.
Also there are costs to ensure the project's stability and growth.

Most importantly, CryptoFreebie was created to give back to the players and to the community with the possibility to create full time jobs.

The launch of cryptofreebie.io

To celebrate the launch of cryptofreebie.io we have prepared a $400 USDT giveaway which can be found here:
https://giveaway.com/en/cMij9ihMYu7


All feedback, both negative and positive is very welcome.


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Generosity can go a long way!

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CryptoFreebie.io
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February 25, 2024, 10:43:23 PM
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Interesting concept, gambling affiliate marketing is one of the best ways to make money in the gambling industry, the giveway is also good but you also need to understand that if you're promoting well-established and popular casinos you are not likely to get more people here as casinos have it in their terms that they do not allow alternative accounts, you have a good chance if you include new and up and coming casinos with good potential and reputable that are not yet here in Bitcointalk.
Good luck with your venture since you have a copper account why not include graphic images to fully explain your concept.


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February 25, 2024, 11:10:09 PM
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... but you also need to understand that if you're promoting well-established and popular casinos you are not likely to get more people here as casinos have it in their terms that they do not allow alternative accounts, you have a good chance if you include new and up and coming casinos with good potential and reputable that are not yet here in Bitcointalk.
Right, those exchanges are usually have so many users here already, so registering on reputed exchanges "again" is pretty much impossible as it violate their ToS so that platform won't get anymore users. It may good to have a new yet established casinos on that platform, maybe some casino that doesn't have an ANN thread here yet, but it could be difficult to find, or maybe just the new ones as long as there's no existing scam accusations against them.

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February 25, 2024, 11:18:23 PM
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Interesting concept, gambling affiliate marketing is one of the best ways to make money in the gambling industry, the giveway is also good but you also need to understand that if you're promoting well-established and popular casinos you are not likely to get more people here as casinos have it in their terms that they do not allow alternative accounts, you have a good chance if you include new and up and coming casinos with good potential and reputable that are not yet here in Bitcointalk.
Good luck with your venture since you have a copper account why not include graphic images to fully explain your concept.

That is true, they need to find a way how to attract other players other than this forum. Because most gamblers here have their own account already in those partner casinos they have listed. But no harm done if they do want to try to promote their site on this forum.

Also, if I may suggest to the OP -  would it be better if you will have visual presentation in your OP rather than wall of texts? Because most users won't read all those texts and just skit it. Maybe, try to post some snapshots from your site particularly the part stating about your rewards.

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February 25, 2024, 11:35:07 PM
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Interesting concept, gambling affiliate marketing is one of the best ways to make money in the gambling industry, the giveway is also good but you also need to understand that if you're promoting well-established and popular casinos you are not likely to get more people here as casinos have it in their terms that they do not allow alternative accounts, you have a good chance if you include new and up and coming casinos with good potential and reputable that are not yet here in Bitcointalk.
Good luck with your venture since you have a copper account why not include graphic images to fully explain your concept.

Thank you for the feed back!
Indeed, we do not encourage players to make alternative accounts and said activity is prohibited by most casino's terms and conditions.
More likely, we would like to debate and discuss about the topic openly.

Speaking from experience we can say that many players who are looking for handouts or easy money are also willing to discard their current accounts to become some one else's affiliate.
With crypto casinos that do not require KYC verification it is a very common thing. Users can either use multiple devices or different connections to do so.
But crypto gambling should be allowed everywhere in the world? Also the anonymity of crypto gambling is what gives it a perk. Here's where the conflict happens: Anonymity or less abusers?

An example: A random marketer invites "Player X" to join a casino by promising them $10 for making an account. Player X happily takes upon this promised offer, gets the $10.
"Player X "enjoys the casino for let's say for 2 months. Some how "Player X" spots an offer for the same casino, but now it's a $20 sign-up bonus + some extra perks or long term value solution and creates another account. - This said scenario happens daily between many different communities, "affiliate jumpers" we like to call them.

Example 2: "Player X" just creates one account to actually refer themself to the platform to reap extra rewards. By doing that, they take the risk of getting caught of abusing the affiliate system and having a duplicate account. Most cases when discovered are actually unfortunate for "Player X", as violation of terms and conditions usually result in voided winnings.

So what if everybody just gets the best deal in town, straight away? No hooks. Would they still jump around or create alts?
That's what we want to find out.
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February 25, 2024, 11:44:26 PM
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So what if everybody just gets the best deal in town, straight away? No hooks. Would they still jump around or create alts?
That's what we want to find out.


You don't have to wait and find out all you have to do is go through the scam section and check how casinos traced abuse by having an alt account of players, it's like inviting and enticing gamblers to try to cheat the system by offering them a better perks than what they currently have or don't have from the one that recruit them.


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February 26, 2024, 12:22:58 AM
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So what if everybody just gets the best deal in town, straight away? No hooks. Would they still jump around or create alts?
That's what we want to find out.


You don't have to wait and find out all you have to do is go through the scam section and check how casinos traced abuse by having an alt account of players, it's like inviting and enticing gamblers to try to cheat the system by offering them a better perks than what they currently have or don't have from the one that recruit them.
This is common among streamers as well. The streamers aren't telling players that they need to create alt accounts if they already have an account, but they hold contests here and there and only players under their code are eligible to win any prizes. Streamers who offer the best rewards get more sign ups but alot unfortunately are alt accounts and casinos mostly only allow 1 account on their platform.

So the question is

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Our plan is not to influence the players decision to discard their current casino accounts. That decision is entirely up to the individual and it is their free will to do so.
Why would you even advertise its ok to create a new account under you? You likely know the ToS of casinos includes 1 account per person, so why mention it's ok to make a new account?

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February 26, 2024, 04:33:12 AM
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Our plan is not to influence the players decision to discard their current casino accounts. That decision is entirely up to the individual and it is their free will to do so.
Why would you even advertise its ok to create a new account under you? You likely know the ToS of casinos includes 1 account per person, so why mention it's ok to make a new account?

That's what I was thinking. In his answer, he's throwing his hands up in the air about whether alts should be created, as in: "it's something that many people do even though it's forbidden, and we don't tell people to do it, but we don't say it's wrong either.

Another thing that strikes me:

After 16 years of experience in the online gambling sector...

Has anyone heard of them? Because I haven't, and with such a long trajectory it's rare. Although if he talks about 16 years it must be supposedly with other names.

Also, neither this thread nor the website seem very professional.

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A straight 70% kickback to the player directly and 10% to the CryptoFreebie community.
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CryptoFreebie keeps only 20% of the crypto currency generated by the players.
How sustainable is a model like this?

A project needs funds to be run, to pay winners, to keep the website active, to advertise and expand. How does this project plan to survive with 20% of revenue generated. It does not seem sustainable to me in the long-run and just seems like a good marketing campaign to get people to register and choose you guys over other casinos.

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February 26, 2024, 07:49:55 AM
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Even the random ads and banners you see everyday on the web that lead players to casinos are predatory in our point of view.

It might be annoying and disturbing, this is also one of the many ways a casino is making profit.. we cannot really do anything about it if that is another way they can think of to generate more money that will be used to better the system….


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Why choose CryptoFreebie?

A straight 70% kickback to the player directly and 10% to the CryptoFreebie community.
We will start with this model and we will ensure that these percentages will not decrease. Depending on the project's popularity, we may increase the rewards in the future.
There is also a VIP program.



Of course any customer would love this idea but just how realistic are these numbers? While we also want sum profits, we also want for the system to work and operate properly and to do that, there should be enough money generated for maintaining and development….


Running a business would be expensive and it can not operate on generosity alone unless you set up a cooperative wherein the members will be themselves to get the benefits by being a member of the organization

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I'm doozy reading but I get what you're trying to solve and you're selling and I'm on board with that but @un_rank actually raises a really good question, how sustainable it is? We all know how popular free money is right? I think that this one will attract a lot of people so you need to tell us how you're going to fund your project consistently and with emphasis to consistency, would you be able to keep this for long because when people get a taste of this, they're probably going to come back for more and more. You'll also need to deal with freebie abusers as they're definitely going to want this and will try to make sure that they're getting the biggest as much as possible.

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February 26, 2024, 10:57:48 AM
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There’s same service like this that offers 50% to 70% referral commission from rakeback. It’s really a good idea for profit sharing but the problem was most of this services doesn’t last longer so the ending will be players will be left behind while the service still benefit on the referral commission from players that sign up through their affiliate code despite they already terminated their service.

I’m not a fan of this kind of service anymore because you guys can come and go no string attached if there’s no new referral using your code since you have no obligation to continue your service if you decided to stop.
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February 26, 2024, 11:02:37 AM
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So what if everybody just gets the best deal in town, straight away? No hooks. Would they still jump around or create alts?
That's what we want to find out.


So the question is

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Our plan is not to influence the players decision to discard their current casino accounts. That decision is entirely up to the individual and it is their free will to do so.
Why would you even advertise its ok to create a new account under you? You likely know the ToS of casinos includes 1 account per person, so why mention it's ok to make a new account?

As far as we know, it's not illegal to close your casino account.
For example, a player may choose to close their current account via said site support for personal reasons.
If the player has closed their account and for some reason has no options to recover or to reopen that closed account, then they can open a new one - as long as their first account is in closed state it seems to be accepted by many sites. Depends how the rules are translated and if the site is okay with that.
Eventually it is between the operator and the player.

Maybe bad phrasing by us, we do not mean that a player should have multiple active accounts. Again, question of translation.
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February 26, 2024, 11:11:18 AM
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A straight 70% kickback to the player directly and 10% to the CryptoFreebie community.
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CryptoFreebie keeps only 20% of the crypto currency generated by the players.
How sustainable is a model like this?

A project needs funds to be run, to pay winners, to keep the website active, to advertise and expand. How does this project plan to survive with 20% of revenue generated. It does not seem sustainable to me in the long-run and just seems like a good marketing campaign to get people to register and choose you guys over other casinos.

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Hi! Thanks for the question.

Nobody said it will be easy, but we will put a lot of heart to the project.
That being said, CryptoFreebie in other words is basically in the hands of the community.
The more people believe in it, the more revenue it generates. At current state all the projects costs are from our own pocket and no 3rd party is financing us.
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February 26, 2024, 11:37:32 AM
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There’s same service like this that offers 50% to 70% referral commission from rakeback. It’s really a good idea for profit sharing but the problem was most of this services doesn’t last longer so the ending will be players will be left behind while the service still benefit on the referral commission from players that sign up through their affiliate code despite they already terminated their service.

I’m not a fan of this kind of service anymore because you guys can come and go no string attached if there’s no new referral using your code since you have no obligation to continue your service if you decided to stop.

Hi!

We see your point. Honestly, we do not believe in discontinuing the project. There are always possibilities for growth: as long as there are crypto casinos, as long as there are players.
If for some reason in the future CrypoFreebie has to close it's doors, which is highly unlikely, then there will be announcements about it. So everybody can keep up with it, players are who drive this project and being honest with them is the key.

Even if such an event would happen, we will still conduct a fully detailed report and send out all promised rewards to the players. What we can do, is work together with the partner casinos to offer some sort of consolation, if that happens.
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As far as we know, it's not illegal to close your casino account.
For example, a player may choose to close their current account via said site support for personal reasons.
If the player has closed their account and for some reason has no options to recover or to reopen that closed account, then they can open a new one - as long as their first account is in closed state it seems to be accepted by many sites. Depends how the rules are translated and if the site is okay with that.
Eventually it is between the operator and the player.

Maybe bad phrasing by us, we do not mean that a player should have multiple active accounts. Again, question of translation.
This is only applicable for new accounts but if you do have an account that is level 2 rank like on Betfury or you are on your way to VIP like on Stake you don't expect them to prefer to close their account just to be able to avail of your 70% rakeback which you can change later if it not sustainable or if you decide to close your platform the player is left hanging, I don't like this idea of closing one account just to sign up with you especially if the account that was close is already verified, it might put the account at risk.

Anyway you say that you have 16 years of experience in gambling maybe you know the proper method of creating another account, for me if you already have an account and you want it close, if you want to go back just request to open, unless you close that account for more than two years, but you have to communicate this to the support or you will get your account in trouble later.

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There’s same service like this that offers 50% to 70% referral commission from rakeback. It’s really a good idea for profit sharing but the problem was most of this services doesn’t last longer so the ending will be players will be left behind while the service still benefit on the referral commission from players that sign up through their affiliate code despite they already terminated their service.

I’m not a fan of this kind of service anymore because you guys can come and go no string attached if there’s no new referral using your code since you have no obligation to continue your service if you decided to stop.

Hi!

We see your point. Honestly, we do not believe in discontinuing the project. There are always possibilities for growth: as long as there are crypto casinos, as long as there are players.
If for some reason in the future CrypoFreebie has to close it's doors, which is highly unlikely, then there will be announcements about it. So everybody can keep up with it, players are who drive this project and being honest with them is the key.

Even if such an event would happen, we will still conduct a fully detailed report and send out all promised rewards to the players. What we can do, is work together with the partner casinos to offer some sort of consolation, if that happens.

This is the example of service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408890.msg60699075#msg60699075 that has similarity to what you offer. The guy paid users on couple of weeks then disappeared after having problem in the forum. Later on another service open and end up the same that’s why there’s always a trust issue here to this kind pf service.

No doubt your service is really good because has nothing to lose here since this rewards is just an extra which they can’t get if they register on the casino directly. I really suggest that you find a way to guarantee user here that your project will run for long term such as putting money on escrow to show seriousness that your project is long term.
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February 26, 2024, 12:29:03 PM
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There’s same service like this that offers 50% to 70% referral commission from rakeback. It’s really a good idea for profit sharing but the problem was most of this services doesn’t last longer so the ending will be players will be left behind while the service still benefit on the referral commission from players that sign up through their affiliate code despite they already terminated their service.

I’m not a fan of this kind of service anymore because you guys can come and go no string attached if there’s no new referral using your code since you have no obligation to continue your service if you decided to stop.

Hi!

We see your point. Honestly, we do not believe in discontinuing the project. There are always possibilities for growth: as long as there are crypto casinos, as long as there are players.
If for some reason in the future CrypoFreebie has to close it's doors, which is highly unlikely, then there will be announcements about it. So everybody can keep up with it, players are who drive this project and being honest with them is the key.

Even if such an event would happen, we will still conduct a fully detailed report and send out all promised rewards to the players. What we can do, is work together with the partner casinos to offer some sort of consolation, if that happens.

This is the example of service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408890.msg60699075#msg60699075 that has similarity to what you offer. The guy paid users on couple of weeks then disappeared after having problem in the forum. Later on another service open and end up the same that’s why there’s always a trust issue here to this kind pf service.

No doubt your service is really good because has nothing to lose here since this rewards is just an extra which they can’t get if they register on the casino directly. I really suggest that you find a way to guarantee user here that your project will run for long term such as putting money on escrow to show seriousness that your project is long term.


Your points are valid and the concern is justified.
In general, it comes down to users feedback. If players think they are mislead or taken advantage of they can feel free to share their experience and report the project.
That being said, every scam or rug pull accusation without any proof is considered to be spam and classified as a fake review. (yes, it's very common for people to spread lies on whatever grounds they see fit, some people even get paid to write them and do this as a full time job)

We know that social media has the power to burn any project to the ground and player feedback is very important. It can take few bad reviews for players to not believe in the project.
However, we will provide a detailed explanation to any player under our wing about their rates and rewards trough our support email, if they feel it is needed.

It's crucial for us to stay honest with everybody, if there's no honesty there will be no project.
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How is the kickback rewarded?

Players associated with CryptoFreebie will receive their rewards every Sunday of the week.
Does this reward associated to how often a gambler or player keeps deposit in cryptofreebie site or is calculated based on regular winning or what? Most times i noticed that some gamblers doesn't want to bet but as long as they keeps funding their account they gets automatic chance be qualified in the weekly or monthly rewards.
Please detailing is needed here for me to understand how it's rewarded to gamblers.

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To celebrate the launch of cryptofreebie.io we have prepared a $400 USDT giveaway which can be found here:
https://giveaway.com/en/cMij9ihMYu7

Please could you explain more about here, doesn't it mean $400 is for each participants or would be share among the qualified gambler who participated?

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It's crucial for us to stay honest with everybody, if there's no honesty there will be no project.

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Our partner casinos pay various % of the house edge as commission. An example of what CryptoFreebie makes when a player that is affiliated with us wagers $100k a week on a 25% commission rate will be: $100000(wager) x 0.01(1% house edge) x 25%(rate) = $250.

Those who can wager $100k per week (and it's a hell of a wagering) will not care a lot for $250. I know every return counts, but you aim to catch some high rollers. Maybe my math is bad, but it looks like there's nothing for us who wager a lot less per week.

I wish you luck in attracting high rollers, it's not an easy task definitely. Many of them already play under someone (who gives them back a nice rakeback), and I doubt they wish to play to earn for someone else just like that.

Good luck with your service.

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