Do you have this practice of gambling during one's wake

[Crypt0Gore]

Wake keeping should be a silent moment filled with prayers to send off the deceased to a better place but traditions can't be the same, some prefer to make noises and dancing, but for some it's a mourning moment where families and friends gathered to talk about the good things that the deceased have done in his life.

Gambling doesn't make sense to me on such days, I feel like it's wrong, since the day that I was born I have never heard about this before, maybe some countries are doing this? I would like to know.

For my people this feels very wrong, I've never seen such happen and it will never happen because all the tribes in my country don't do such thing, it doesn't give value to the deceased, in short it looks like a lack of respect for the dead, maybe I am wrong, what is wrong in a country can be right in another.

[dezoel]

This is something completely new to me and I have never heard of this tradition before. Every country or region has different cultures and traditions for anything they do, in the region where I live, we don't do such things but it is just that friends and relatives of the family come and stay with them for a few days and take care of expenses and stuff while the family is mourning just to give them some relief from other tensions while they are already in extreme grief.

I'm hearing for the first time that to support the family of the deceased, the friends and families or people that come to the wake gamble while they are together to collect gambling fees to support the family, sounds very kind and sympathetic to me.

[Wapfika]

This is something completely new to me and I have never heard of this tradition before. Every country or region has different cultures and traditions for anything they do, in the region where I live, we don't do such things but it is just that friends and relatives of the family come and stay with them for a few days and take care of expenses and stuff while the family is mourning just to give them some relief from other tensions while they are already in extreme grief.

I'm hearing for the first time that to support the family of the deceased, the friends and families or people that come to the wake gamble while they are together to collect gambling fees to support the family, sounds very kind and sympathetic to me.

I believe this is from the Philippines. The gambling part is not really necessary, it’s just a way of people being sympathetic to the deceased by entertaining themselves in the form of gambling then give the commission every game to the family.

But anyone can give financial support directly to the deceased family without doing any gambling. Since wake is done here during night until dawn, people want something to wake them while they are still the deceased. This way the deceased family feels support from many people for being there until morning.

[Baofeng]

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

Yeah, this is part of our tradition already in our country and it is to help the family raised money to help in the expense. Not sure if this is just unique for Filipinos or when it did start. And the usual card games, to keep us awake and I think this is my early exposure to gambling itself as anyone can watch the games even if you are still very young.

@Crypt0Gore - we don't view it that way, perhaps it's just a way to what the OP said, the winner of let's say lucky 9 (a form of baccarat that is well known in our country and usually one of the games that we played in the wake), will give part of his winnings we call it tong) to the families to help cover the burial expenses or anything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/comments/2tu4nf/why_does_the_funerals_here_at_the_philippines/

[Doan9269]

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

i never heard of this practice before, but with the way of explanation on how this is being played and intended for, its a game that is good and at least have a possible ideal way of helping the family of the bereaved left behind, but i don't know if the process in playing the card colours has anything to do with winning or not in other for the family to receive the benefits and
 to play such, also if any random relative or friends can join in playing such, or only the family are permitted to play such

[hyudien]

Wake keeping in some places is a time of morning regardless of the age of the deceased,  and for that games which is a fun activities will not be entertained in such a situation and such no one will bring such idea of playing games at all,  and that is why,  this kind of games are not popular in most of the world,  and since gambling is fundamentally for fun and not money generation,  so whatever the aim may be either to raise funds to support or go along with a particular situation it doesn't matter it won't be entertained.


So for that,  there are other ways that they will employ according to the peculiarity of their environment and situations,  so for that, I haven't seen such a situation where gambling is organized as a fundraising means since this practice is not available in my country,  although gambling is legal though.

I agree with you, indeed gambling is something that is just for fun, now if gambling is made the main source of income then what will happen is a big problem. where finances will become a mess and it can destroy our lives. Some people who experience big losses are likely people who gamble with the aim of making money, so that when they win they are not only happy, but they are also more confident in gambling which can provide bigger wins.
I think it is almost impossible for gambling to be used as a means of raising funds, but I don't know exactly how, that's just my own opinion. because as far as I know, those who own casinos also aim to make profits and gains for themselves or to develop their gambling to make it even bigger.

[Jody.Drummer]

I'm sure the person who died was the head of the family who has the main role as the person who earns a living to support all his family, but this method or practice seems a bit strange. How can we really make money in gambling to help support the family that has been left behind while the outcome of gambling is always about uncertainty and in addition there is the risk of losing your money at any time without you expecting it.

Honestly I've only heard of this tradition because in my place it's really unheard of when someone dies, and usually the situation is full of grief which makes us have to really maintain manners and ethics to others especially the family left behind when in a sad situation like that, in our place gambling has a pretty negative viewpoint overall and it makes it impossible for me to do things that tend to lead to gambling activities when in a sad situation, but yes every country or place has its own traditions and customs and we have to respect them.

[stomachgrowls]

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

i never heard of this practice before, but with the way of explanation on how this is being played and intended for, its a game that is good and at least have a possible ideal way of helping the family of the bereaved left behind, but i don't know if the process in playing the card colours has anything to do with winning or not in other for the family to receive the benefits and
 to play such, also if any random relative or friends can join in playing such, or only the family are permitted to play such

When it comes to this kind of approach on where making some gambling cards game or having that tong for the sake of increasing it for the benefit of the bereaved family then it would really be that
a nice idea but just like been said by others that if you are really that tending to make some donation then it would be made out directly and this is something on which it would really be
possible if  you are really that tending to make donations for the affected family. As for personal approach then it would be better that you should be that having that kind of consideration in speaking
if you are really that tending to help. When it comes to culture then each country does have that different culture. I dont see these things on other countries.

[ethereumhunter]

gambling is something that is just for fun, now if gambling is made the main source of income then what will happen is a big problem. where finances will become a mess and it can destroy our lives. Some people who experience big losses are likely people who gamble with the aim of making money, so that when they win they are not only happy, but they are also more confident in gambling which can provide bigger wins.
I think it is almost impossible for gambling to be used as a means of raising funds, but I don't know exactly how, that's just my own opinion. because as far as I know, those who own casinos also aim to make profits and gains for themselves or to develop their gambling to make it even bigger.

If many gamblers know about that and consider gambling is just for having fun and not the main source of income, they will not try to playing gambling too hard because that will not makes them have a chance to win much money. If they can do that, they will just having fun and not thinks about win or lose because they knows that gambling is not gives the opportunity to makes money. Many people already experiences big losses so we must prevents that happens to us by always limits our gambling activity and knowing how much money we must used. If we can takes care ourselves when playing gambling, we will gets the fun of playing gambling and not thinking about making money from gambling. The house will takes the biggest profit from the gamblers because that's their business and they can gets the profit easily than the gamblers. It is why we must used self-control to prevent the big losses and still have a chance to having fun from playing gambling.

[Ever-young]

This is such an interesting cultural rite! I think it's wonderful that there is a means to assist families during such a tough time. It appears to be a financial assistance for the family as well as a sense of community and connection during an agonizing time. And the fact that there are friendly games involved appears to be a welcome distraction during a sad period.

I believe that the sense of connection and connection that this custom provides can be quite beneficial to those who are grieving. Losing a loved one can be extremely isolating, making it difficult to know how to seek assistance. Having a structured event like this could provide an opportunity for people to come together and share their grief, which could be really healing. And the friendly games could provide a sense of normalcy and distraction from the pain of loss.

[Webetcoins]

I think the so-called tong won't be enough to support the family who are left by those who died if he is a husband or father who only works in the family but they can be good already to buy a snack that will be offered to those who play gambling during the mourn. You said those who does this already seek permission from the authorities?

So, definitely it's also legal if done in other countries but I think not all countries are doing this, especially the richer ones as they can already afford the snack and other expenses when they have a family member who have died. When there is a tong involved, the games must be true and not for fun only but playing during these events are no doubt more fun because relatives from from far places are gathering and we can as well see lots of different faces in the area.

[hyudien]

gambling is something that is just for fun, now if gambling is made the main source of income then what will happen is a big problem. where finances will become a mess and it can destroy our lives. Some people who experience big losses are likely people who gamble with the aim of making money, so that when they win they are not only happy, but they are also more confident in gambling which can provide bigger wins.
I think it is almost impossible for gambling to be used as a means of raising funds, but I don't know exactly how, that's just my own opinion. because as far as I know, those who own casinos also aim to make profits and gains for themselves or to develop their gambling to make it even bigger.

If many gamblers know about that and consider gambling is just for having fun and not the main source of income, they will not try to playing gambling too hard because that will not makes them have a chance to win much money. If they can do that, they will just having fun and not thinks about win or lose because they knows that gambling is not gives the opportunity to makes money. Many people already experiences big losses so we must prevents that happens to us by always limits our gambling activity and knowing how much money we must used. If we can takes care ourselves when playing gambling, we will gets the fun of playing gambling and not thinking about making money from gambling. The house will takes the biggest profit from the gamblers because that's their business and they can gets the profit easily than the gamblers. It is why we must used self-control to prevent the big losses and still have a chance to having fun from playing gambling.

On the other hand, there is indeed a chance to get a win or a big win, which is called a jackpot, but of course this will not happen as we expect. Moreover, we must be aware that gambling will not completely end in victory, if we gamble often, what will happen more often is defeat, not victory, because of course the superiority factor of the host is certain, they will be difficult to beat because they It is the host who created all this and they have also arranged it in such a way that what they plan can produce profits including winning.
We should gamble with the money we can afford, don't gamble beyond our financial capabilities. forcing yourself into gambling is also not recommended, because most likely it will only ruin your life financially. It's true what you said, we have to be able to control ourselves so we don't gamble excessively, because excessive gambling will only make us miserable.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the so-called tong won't be enough to support the family who are left by those who died if he is a husband or father who only works in the family but they can be good already to buy a snack that will be offered to those who play gambling during the mourn. You said those who does this already seek permission from the authorities?

So, definitely it's also legal if done in other countries but I think not all countries are doing this, especially the richer ones as they can already afford the snack and other expenses when they have a family member who have died. When there is a tong involved, the games must be true and not for fun only but playing during these events are no doubt more fun because relatives from from far places are gathering and we can as well see lots of different faces in the area.

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations, which are generally somewhat cheaper, but it is not It is bad to do certain activities if you want to raise funds for these expenses, generally where I live some people resort to holding "raffles", whether for cars, motorcycles, many things, the truth is I had not considered it. Poker tournaments could be organized, it is something new where I live, because generally things with gambling where I live have not expressed that taste, although they are very exciting things, but it would be a matter of seeing if it gives good results, then it doesn't matter, that can work, the idea is to be able to have enough funds to Covering those expenses is not bad.

Gambling will always attract the attention of many people, but if you organize something like this you have to be very careful, even in the event that a problem arises, as money is very delicate, fights can occur.

[Mahanton]

I think the so-called tong won't be enough to support the family who are left by those who died if he is a husband or father who only works in the family but they can be good already to buy a snack that will be offered to those who play gambling during the mourn. You said those who does this already seek permission from the authorities?

So, definitely it's also legal if done in other countries but I think not all countries are doing this, especially the richer ones as they can already afford the snack and other expenses when they have a family member who have died. When there is a tong involved, the games must be true and not for fun only but playing during these events are no doubt more fun because relatives from from far places are gathering and we can as well see lots of different faces in the area.

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations, which are generally somewhat cheaper, but it is not It is bad to do certain activities if you want to raise funds for these expenses, generally where I live some people resort to holding "raffles", whether for cars, motorcycles, many things, the truth is I had not considered it. Poker tournaments could be organized, it is something new where I live, because generally things with gambling where I live have not expressed that taste, although they are very exciting things, but it would be a matter of seeing if it gives good results, then it doesn't matter, that can work, the idea is to be able to have enough funds to Covering those expenses is not bad.

Gambling will always attract the attention of many people, but if you organize something like this you have to be very careful, even in the event that a problem arises, as money is very delicate, fights can occur.

I dont know if this one is already that offered on some countries but there's already having those life plans or something that connects out about when you die there's already that having funeral plans or in correlation
to this on which you would really be having no problems when it comes to funeral arrangement or something which the family of the affected ones wont really be having that kind of hardship on expense.
Talking about practically on which the thing you've said is really that actually true on which it is really that indeed too costly i must say. From coffin until those burial then it wont really be that coming cheap.
This is why it would really be understandable that to those families who are sitting on those middle standard or status to poor would be struggling into this situation.

No one really knows on when to die and this is where these kind of plans would really be relevant. It might sound that too bad in our ears but talking practically then this one is really
that something that you could really be able to prepare on.

[coolcoinz]

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations,

I guess that's the problem in third world countries because I've been living in a few European countries and you get these expenses covered by social security. There's a special fund that if the person had paid their social security, will pay out a certain amount of money, usually close to 2k EUR. It may not cover the whole cost, but it will help you with the most important things like cost of cremation or coffin, transport and preparation of the body and all that.

I've never heard of that. None of the people I know gamble to raise money for funeral and gambling is not something we do when a person dies. Gambling is treated like meeting with people to play video games, you don't do that to commemorate someone, but rather to laugh and have fun.

[Zoomic]

This is such an interesting cultural rite! I think it's wonderful that there is a means to assist families during such a tough time. It appears to be a financial assistance for the family as well as a sense of community and connection during an agonizing time. And the fact that there are friendly games involved appears to be a welcome distraction during a sad period.

I believe that the sense of connection and connection that this custom provides can be quite beneficial to those who are grieving. Losing a loved one can be extremely isolating, making it difficult to know how to seek assistance. Having a structured event like this could provide an opportunity for people to come together and share their grief, which could be really healing. And the friendly games could provide a sense of normalcy and distraction from the pain of loss.

I am not used to such a gambling practice as i have not seen it before happen in my country, but i believe In this kind of gambling practice, there are still chances that the family might lose or raise very small amount of money which still still renders the effort made fruitless. In my country,  people rather raise funds for the family by conducting a fundraising on the day of the funeral or maybe few days to the funeral where friends and well wishers raise money for the bereaved family.

Organising some kind of gambling  during the wake of a funeral will be necessary if it is seen as a means of entertaining the people and create an exciting atmosphere even in the midst of sorrow. Aside this, there are lots of ways to raise funds for a bereaved family without necessarily raising them through gambling.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations,

I guess that's the problem in third world countries because I've been living in a few European countries and you get these expenses covered by social security. There's a special fund that if the person had paid their social security, will pay out a certain amount of money, usually close to 2k EUR. It may not cover the whole cost, but it will help you with the most important things like cost of cremation or coffin, transport and preparation of the body and all that.

Even as small as €2000 seems, it is still quite a large amount or sum of money here in my country, most especially when converted to our local currency, Its more than enough to condult a moderate burial ceremony, I can tell you for sure that when my dad died, we did not spend up to $1000 for the burial (note I used dollars here not euro, and also note that euro is more expensive than the dollar here in my country).

So, I honestly don't know for sure how other parts of the world go about burial ceremonies of their loved ones, but then, this whole idea of gambling to raise money for burial ceremony still sounds weirld as f**k to me.

I've never heard of that. None of the people I know gamble to raise money for funeral and gambling is not something we do when a person dies. Gambling is treated like meeting with people to play video games, you don't do that to commemorate someone, but rather to laugh and have fun.

Yeah, I've never known gambling to be something or an activity someone who is morning the death of their loved one will want to engage in, gambling is an activity that ordinarily should make people merry, that is; happy, not an activity suitable for a gathering of a death of someone.

But then again, Ive never been out of my country, I don't know how other nations around the world consider or treat the death of a person.

[Slow death]

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations,

I guess that's the problem in third world countries because I've been living in a few European countries and you get these expenses covered by social security. There's a special fund that if the person had paid their social security, will pay out a certain amount of money, usually close to 2k EUR. It may not cover the whole cost, but it will help you with the most important things like cost of cremation or coffin, transport and preparation of the body and all that.

I've never heard of that. None of the people I know gamble to raise money for funeral and gambling is not something we do when a person dies. Gambling is treated like meeting with people to play video games, you don't do that to commemorate someone, but rather to laugh and have fun.

In third world countries things work the same way, anyone who is a government employee has their salary deducted for death expenses, in the private sector they also deduct their salary for death expenses, now when people are not government employees or from a private company but there is some business so these people must go to health, death and other insurance companies and pay the death insurance, that way when the person dies the insurance will be activated and all death expenses will be paid . Unfortunately, there are many people who do not have a job and do not have businesses, so these people do not pay for this insurance

and when they die, relatives and friends contribute money and pay bills related to death expenses. It's a very sad scenario and this is something that more than 50% of people from third world countries have suffered and I very much doubt this situation will be resolved anytime soon, because with the corrupt and incompetent governments that third world countries like mine has been, the level of development is very slow, unemployment has only increased a lot. In the places where the ceremonies to say goodbye to the deceased are held, people's sad faces are very visible. In my country, it's like that, in places where the dead are, there is no joy and rightly so, why would anyone go and play when someone died? does not make sense

[Onyeeze]

This is legal in our country provided that you ask permission from authorities, they allow gambling like card games and color games they allocate a fee, or what we call in our country a "tong" for the family of the bereaved so they can cover the expenses of the family during their hard times.
Do you have a similar practice in your country and is this legal in your country?

I often play games during the wake to keep up with friends and relatives of the bereaved this is to sympathize with the family, these are friendly games and the tong will help the family, it's been with this tradition ever since in our country, and I believe it will keep on as long as there are families who need to cover expenses of the family's who are left.

actually I've only very difficult to understand exactly what you are saying but what I want to tell you is that dumbbelling is different than and you cannot compare it with what you see but is not involving so therefore I believe that you have to know that's gambling is different if from your explanation but let me not go into this again what you give is explanation of another thing that does not relate with the gambling naturally but only accepted the fact of your theory

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the so-called tong won't be enough to support the family who are left by those who died if he is a husband or father who only works in the family but they can be good already to buy a snack that will be offered to those who play gambling during the mourn. You said those who does this already seek permission from the authorities?

So, definitely it's also legal if done in other countries but I think not all countries are doing this, especially the richer ones as they can already afford the snack and other expenses when they have a family member who have died. When there is a tong involved, the games must be true and not for fun only but playing during these events are no doubt more fun because relatives from from far places are gathering and we can as well see lots of different faces in the area.

Funeral costs are very high almost like in all countries, sometimes people do not have enough money to pay these expenses, that is why it has become very fashionable to do so-called cremations, which are generally somewhat cheaper, but it is not It is bad to do certain activities if you want to raise funds for these expenses, generally where I live some people resort to holding "raffles", whether for cars, motorcycles, many things, the truth is I had not considered it. Poker tournaments could be organized, it is something new where I live, because generally things with gambling where I live have not expressed that taste, although they are very exciting things, but it would be a matter of seeing if it gives good results, then it doesn't matter, that can work, the idea is to be able to have enough funds to Covering those expenses is not bad.

Gambling will always attract the attention of many people, but if you organize something like this you have to be very careful, even in the event that a problem arises, as money is very delicate, fights can occur.

I dont know if this one is already that offered on some countries but there's already having those life plans or something that connects out about when you die there's already that having funeral plans or in correlation
to this on which you would really be having no problems when it comes to funeral arrangement or something which the family of the affected ones wont really be having that kind of hardship on expense.
Talking about practically on which the thing you've said is really that actually true on which it is really that indeed too costly i must say. From coffin until those burial then it wont really be that coming cheap.
This is why it would really be understandable that to those families who are sitting on those middle standard or status to poor would be struggling into this situation.

No one really knows on when to die and this is where these kind of plans would really be relevant. It might sound that too bad in our ears but talking practically then this one is really
that something that you could really be able to prepare on.

You are absolutely right, these things tend to be very expensive, now there are many plans that I have seen on TV where insurance is paid for this type of event, where they basically offer the entire funeral service, so in view of these things we can draw the conclusion that things have to be previously planned, the person when  is die is over for that person everything , but the problem that the family faces, not only the pain, but the spend that comes at them, is a strong point, but You have to face it as you say, I remember that when the covid pandemic was going on, it wasn't even worth it to bury the dead, but rather burn them, of course it's something else, but it affects it in the same way.

That is why it is striking that in some countries they see poker tournaments as a way to raise funds to cover funeral expenses, it is not a bad idea.