Eurovision 2024 bets

[Ultegra134]

To be honest, I haven't watched the Eurovision song contest for years, I didn't know you could even bet on it. I randomly opened the TV and encountered the last few songs for the semifinal contest. There are a few good songs, such as Belgium's, Czechia's or Croatia's.

I am watching the second semi final now and every song so far is very good. Talented artists and good songs. Marina of Greece kinda fucked up on some parts but hopefully people are still going to vote for us. Czechia is unexpectedly good I am surprised they weren't higher in the odds. Albania also. So far 5 songs in I'll be sad if one of these doesn't make it to the final.

We haven't had a decent song in years, and this year isn't any different. This is probably one of the most kitsch songs I've ever listened to. I don't understand why there's such a huge hype about it.

[STT]

I love the stage setup, much better then I remember prior contests.   The Czechia song is ok, could even be a pop hit but I'd label it too close to average algorithmic type of tune.  I'd love it in the car driving along to it, good bass and rhythm, lyrical; some music is best heard while distracted.   Going on previous winners this is not the feature tune winner of the contest overall imo.

Best I can do for it is 7 out of 10 and obviously Im looking for a 10, in quality, uniqueness or just because I personally like it and I do like Pedestal by Aiko but its not going to be enough for the big win is my first guess if being honest.

[Rikafip]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

[TopTort777]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago. If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Naked ass windows 95

[Rikafip]

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year

We have places big enough for shows like that so we won't have to build it but you are right about wasting millions in case we win, as organising stuff like that cost shit load of money even without having to build a venue.

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago.

I was successfully avoiding Eurovision contests for years (mainly because my music taste is completely different from what you hear there) until I got married. I managed to avoid semifinals but unfortunately no way to skip final. 

If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Naked ass windows 95

I agree, its a fucking freakshow and I can't believe how obsessed people in Croatia are about it at the moment. I secretly wish for us not to win just so I can see all those people crying over something as unsignificant and political as Eurovision song contest is.

[alani123]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and  the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

[Rikafip]

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.
Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that?

Yeah something dodgy is going on with televoting as I honestly doubt that Italians would vote in such a high percentage even for their own song (if they could do it), let alone for Israeli. Having said that, I also doubt that leaked results were honest mistake either.

t's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle...

Afaik you can vote from a single number 20 times max, so that means they would have to buy bunch of sim cards. Even though, I see no reason why its even allowed to vote more than once from a single number as this way it just makes it easier to manipulate voting but then again, maybe that's exactly why its made that way. 

[o48o]

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence?  

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision.  

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

And that accidental leak of Italy's televoting, which, if accurate, says a lot:
And this was supposed to be apolitical, which gets weirder all the time. Imagine Israel winning this? Would anyone go into that event, if next one would be hosted in Israel. Imagine the level of terrorism threat there.

I am still wishing for Finland as i placed my bets long time ago .

[Ultegra134]

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and  the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries. Why is Israel even participating? It has no place in a European contest, especially after the genocide they're conducting against Palestine, and they have the nerve to act like nothing is happening and participate in a song contest. It must be one of their top priorities.

I'm not sure about yesterday's semifinals, but I saw a video during rehearsals where the singer was being booed at and even claimed that Eurovision was masking it so they weren't heard when broadcasting.

Edit: 3800th post woo

[Rikafip]

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaign to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

[Ultegra134]

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaignm to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

On the one hand, if you treat it solely as a song contest, I don't see why you shouldn't vote for Israel, provided that you liked their song, so me calling out Israel for participating is biased because I'm having the politics aspect in mind. On the other hand, I feel like Israel doesn't have a place in Eurovision, especially after the war in the Middle East. I feel like it's humiliating towards the thousands of deaths of innocent people from both sides. With all this happening, is a European song contest your priority?

I'm not sure if my way of thinking is wrong; usually there's no right or wrong opinion in such cases, but I understand why people are upset with them; they're just venting it through Eurovision.

[boltz]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

[o48o]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

It's always been political. They have just set vague rules on which political statements are allowed so they can say it's apolitical.

Rigged it has been since jury got to much weight to their votes and now it's nearly impossible to win, if jury happens to hate the song.
Most of the televotes have always been about support from neighbouring countries, sympathy votes for victims or votes used as political statements. I don't think it ever was just about the music.
Talent, melodies, performances are always subjective and matter of opinion. And lots of people would vote for their own countries if they could. And they definitely have been voting countries they have relatives in as for support. And now whole world can vote. So televoting is more interesting, at least if they go country by country and not just "here's votes from rest of the world"

Many songs from last year were really good bangers imho, so political voting didn't matter to me at all in qualitywise.

[LTU_btc]

Seems that things aren't changing and Croatia remains to be main favorite to win. Wouldn't be against it, but personally I like Italy most, though, their chances doesn't looks big.
What I really don't want that one of freaks like Switzerland or Ireland would win.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

Our commentator who was working at arena said that there was huge mix between clapping and booing there that it was difficult to understand which kind of reactions we have more. And when I watched it on TV  you barely was able to hear much. But it's understandable reaction from EBU if they already allowed Israel to participate.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

As I understand this version was already denied, so, it's interesting what actually he did.

[Rikafip]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ?

It is more about everything else rather than about song quality, but I think that bookies are taking everything into consideration, including the "rigging" aspect of it. And that's why Isreal odds dropped down so much in the last few days. as they are lobbying hard and spending shit load of money on adds in an attempt to win.

As I understand this version was already denied, so, it's interesting what actually he did.

Afaik, the version that was denied was that he attacked someone from Isreali delegation. Dutch TV released statement saying that incident involved someone from the camera crew and their contestant, and that it was blown way out of proportion.

[Slow death]

Since Russia invaded Ukraine and terrorists entered Israel where they killed and kidnapped many people and Israel is retaliating, European countries and the United States continue to suffer from demonstrations by people in favor of the Palestinians, who reach the level of behaving like terrorists and I read on my country's news channel that in this contest you also see Palestinian supporters causing problems. something bad. Being a European competition for Europeans, there shouldn't be people demonstrating in favor of terrorists. I searched a little on Google and I see that this contest is having a lot of controversy.

The Eurovision final will kick off this evening, but the event has already been marred in controversy. Dutch singer Joost Klein has been axed from the final over alleged inappropriate behaviour and the Irish act has been absent from the flag ceremony.

source: https://news.sky.com/story/eurovision-2024-latest-updates-chaos-as-dutch-singer-axed-and-irish-star-demands-urgent-attention-over-separate-serious-incident-13131792

The judges will have a lot of work, in a music competition there shouldn't be any of these types of problems that are being reported, it should be a time for singers to compete politely, respecting the opponent and for the best singer to win. but I see that politics is involved in the contest

[decodx]

I get what you're saying about politics and all, but man, judging on vocals alone seems kinda narrow-minded. Like check it - a killer songs gotta be catchy as hell with a hook that reels you in.  Just cause someone can wail dont mean they got it locked up either and  you need the whole package.  I know there's shady stuff happening behind the scenes sometimes.  Allegations get thrown around every year of stolen wins or whatever.  But all that drama shouldn't stop you from enjoyin Eurovision if you're feeling it.  A couple lame decisions can't wreck it completely.  At the end of the day its still a blast for tons of people

Place your bets folks. Just a few minutes left! 

[Joca97]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

Jury is mostly rigged by my point of views. We have seen that when Ukraine won with a bad song when the war started. Its mostly political,but i think this year Croatia will win the Eurovision and i dont think that it is fixed for them. So far they have the best odds to win by the bookies. Also sometimes singing dosent matter on this competition.

[darkangel11]

(...) also see Palestinian supporters causing problems. something bad. Being a European competition for Europeans, there shouldn't be people demonstrating in favor of terrorists. I searched a little on Google and I see that this contest is having a lot of controversy.

Yes, I agree with you, it's a European contest, so why the fuck is Israel allowed to compete? No wonder Palestinian supporters are causing trouble. Looks like they don't want to see invaders from another continent represented in their European song contest.
It's funny how biased the whole thing is. They banned Russia after invasion of Ukraine and allowed Israel to compete after invasion of Palestine, even though it's not even located close to Europe.
Now they Banned Netherlands because of a complaint by one woman... So you can get to a final and someone says you were rude and you're kicked out? Listen up - he farted during a rehearsal and then laughed at it instead of apologizing! Kick him out!

[boltz]

I like Croatia , Ireland ( #crownthewitch please ) , Norway and I'm thinking to place a vote on each of them but to bad you can't vote from your telephone anymore and you need to use your creditcard which I kinda don't like it. I also think UK will get 0 points because kids were watching and that was embarrassing ...