Eurovision 2024 bets

[alani123]

Will you be betting on Eurovision this year?

The Eurovision Song Contest (ESC) is quite popular in Europe. It's kind of an official institution at this point, with most countries of the continent sending a team to represent their country with a song in the competition. This year fewer countries will participate than in other years but still there's going to be a lot of competition.

Eurovision also has a big and very dedicated fan base and those fans often look at betting odds to see who's more likely to win the contest. This year I'm also eager to see which crypto bookies will accept bets on the ESC. The ranking in the final is determined in part by jury but also through audience votes. So people's opinion is really important in this competition.  

Here's some info on countries that will be participating in this year's contest:

First semi-final on the 7th of May:


Second semi-final on the 8th of May:


Countries that have already secured a spot in the final on the 11th of May:


There's also a unique circumstance this year where many participating countries have called on the expulsion of Israel from the competition due to the ongoing genocide the Israeli government is causing on Gaza. The organizers however weren't listening. But upon the revelation of Israel's entry, they're only now threatened with expulsion due to politicized lyrics (supposedly in support of the war), which are supposedly forbidden in the competition. So another betting option to look out for even before May when Eurovision will be taking place is if Israel will be allowed to compete or not.

So what do you think about betting on Eurovision? Will you be seeking out platforms to bet on it? Do you know which platforms will be accepting bets on the ESC in crypto?
Any thoughts on who's gonna pass from the semi finals to the final? Who's gonna be the winner perhaps? Let's get this thread going!

[FatFork]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner?

Croatia decided who's going to Eurovision this year! Last night, our national broadcaster, HRT, put on a show called "Dora 2024".  After all the votes were counted, "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" by Baby Lasagna came out on top.  Get ready to see Croatia rock Malmö with this catchy tune! 🤘


Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmg8EAD-Kjw (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-UQmO08sc (Live)

[flipme]

The Eurovision winner is determined by political alliances between countries and geographical proximity. Of course, a music contest sounds nice, and artistic activities lift our spirits, but this contest does not interest me because of its voting system. I wish the voting system of this contest was done by people living all over the world. Because in this case, the result is determined not by the quality of the music but by the political conjuncture. I'm sorry but I won't bet on this contest.

[Slow death]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner?

Croatia decided who's going to Eurovision this year! Last night, our national broadcaster, HRT, put on a show called "Dora 2024".  After all the votes were counted, "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" by Baby Lasagna came out on top.  Get ready to see Croatia rock Malmö with this catchy tune! 🤘


Baby Lasagna - Rim Tim Tagi Dim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmg8EAD-Kjw (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv-UQmO08sc (Live)

 

Currently, music no longer has beautiful lyrics with any meaning, whether in a critical or romantic sense. Music has become just mixtures of sounds that are pleasant to the ears, but do not touch the feelings of the person listening to them. Looking at the lyrics of this song, I didn't see anything that expresses feelings that can move someone. but it has a pleasant sound mix, I don't know what criteria they use to choose the songs for this op event and I also don't know what criteria they use to choose the winner of this event that op posted. but I highly doubt that the winner will be someone who sings something meaningful and has a good sound mix. Unfortunately, in music and beauty contests, the winners are chosen in a way that benefits certain politicians' goals.

for example, if in this event that the op posted, the majority of countries are critical of how Israel is managing the war and a singer appears with poor quality music, terrible lyrics but which criticizes Israel, then that singer will be declared the winner, if any songs appear singing about global warming, then you will be declared the winner. We no longer look at the quality of music, the message that music wants to convey to society and how this music can help improve society, people today no longer care about the lyrics of the song, politicians and competition judges they just choose the music that best suits their goals

[decodx]

Well, Germany has struck out at Eurovision again.  I hate to say it, but this year's entry just doesn't seem like a good fit for the contest.  We picked a decent song and Isaac is a talented singer, but the whole package lacks that special Eurovision sparkle needed to stand out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhq3S4YHdQ

It's a perfectly fine radio tune but come on... You need major stage presence and killer choreography to grab people's attention and  this song just kind of plods along without much excitement.  And the staging looks pretty boring too from what I've seen so far. 

I wish they'd chosen something more dynamic and crowd-pleasing.  As it is, theyll be relying on some jury points to avoid finishing dead last.  And with such an unmemorable song, Isaac's going to struggle big time to pick up votes in the public televote.

[alani123]

for example, if in this event that the op posted, the majority of countries are critical of how Israel is managing the war and a singer appears with poor quality music, terrible lyrics but which criticizes Israel, then that singer will be declared the winner, if any songs appear singing about global warming, then you will be declared the winner. We no longer look at the quality of music, the message that music wants to convey to society and how this music can help improve society, people today no longer care about the lyrics of the song, politicians and competition judges they just choose the music that best suits their goals

It's kinda funny how politicized Eurovision has been in the last few years.

There's a rule against politicized songs and lyrics but this rule only seems to be leveraged in favor of EU's establishment. In the last few years only Russia and pro-Russian entries have been harmed by Eurovision Rules.

2017 Ukraine refused entry to the Russian singer, ultimately not being able to compete at all.
2021 The European Broadcasting Union bans Belarus for supposedly political lyrics.
2022 Preemptive ban of Russia from the competition due to the war in Ukraine.

Why then shouldn't Israel be banned this year for carrying out a genocide that's even recognized by the International Court of Justice? It would only be fair to receive the same treatment.
Instead they threaten a ban on the song only after it's revealed to be in support of the war... And probably it won't even be banned.

It's fair game then in my opinion for other countries to send pro-palestinian and anti-genocide entries to the competition. Also fair game for people voting for the competition to do so in support of political opinions. It's going to be a fierce song competition in political terms (ironically). However also there's a large call to boycott the competition so ultimately it'd be interesting to see how much leverage these pro/anti entries would get.

[LTU_btc]

Always interesting to have discussion about Eurovision here. Personally I'm happy with our (Lithuania choice. We sent Silvester Belt with song Luktelk https://youtu.be/OrL668EQRu0?si=WP-Zk6VDHlNyd5Ko
That was only song that I liked in our national selection. Yeah, it's not winning material, but I'm sure we will get into final and maybe will get decent place. I also like that we started to send song in Lithuanian language. IMO, our English songs sounds too much generic.
Croatia, it will be great or just terrible. Last year they also sent a bit strange song, but didn't got good result.

The Eurovision winner is determined by political alliances between countries and geographical proximity. Of course, a music contest sounds nice, and artistic activities lift our spirits, but this contest does not interest me because of its voting system. I wish the voting system of this contest was done by people living all over the world. Because in this case, the result is determined not by the quality of the music but by the political conjuncture. I'm sorry but I won't bet on this contest.

There is is lot of politics in Eurovision, but I wouldn't say that's main factor how winner is decided always. Let's take Sweden and Loreen last year - it would be difficult to find political context there.

Well, Germany has struck out at Eurovision again.  I hate to say it, but this year's entry just doesn't seem like a good fit for the contest.  We picked a decent song and Isaac is a talented singer, but the whole package lacks that special Eurovision sparkle needed to stand out.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhq3S4YHdQ

Yeah, it's not bad, but nothing special. It sounds like song that you will forget after few minutes. Don't know why Germany aren't taking Eurovision more seriously.

[alani123]

Well, Germany has struck out at Eurovision again.  I hate to say it, but this year's entry just doesn't seem like a good fit for the contest.  We picked a decent song and Isaac is a talented singer, but the whole package lacks that special Eurovision sparkle needed to stand out.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twhq3S4YHdQ

Yeah, it's not bad, but nothing special. It sounds like song that you will forget after few minutes. Don't know why Germany aren't taking Eurovision more seriously.

I think the countries that have a guaranteed spot in the final rarely bother to send an entry that's too good partly because it would be too cocky, but also because they don't need to bother. These entries don't reach the final on merit so if they want to send a joke entry and get it seen by everyone without having to bother with semi-finals, they sure can. But I think the United Kingdom and Germany specifically, being some of the largest countries in Europe, as well as having a guaranteed spot in the final, usually don't want to be too competitive.

It's so weird and really a shame to see the U.K., a country with such a robust music scene, to end up taking places close to the last year after year. Like yeah, ok, some countries really don't like the UK., but they've also been sending irrelevant songs. Not particularly bad, just really forgettable.

[decodx]

Croatia, it will be great or just terrible. Last year they also sent a bit strange song, but didn't got good result.

Yes, I agree. Croatia has a much better song than last year's entry, (which was a bit too controversial, imho.)  If I'm not mistaken, it resembles Rammstein's music a bit.
I'm not saying it's a ripoff, but maybe the artist was inspired by the iconic German rock band.

[LTU_btc]

I think the countries that have a guaranteed spot in the final rarely bother to send an entry that's too good partly because it would be too cocky, but also because they don't need to bother. These entries don't reach the final on merit so if they want to send a joke entry and get it seen by everyone without having to bother with semi-finals, they sure can. But I think the United Kingdom and Germany specifically, being some of the largest countries in Europe, as well as having a guaranteed spot in the final, usually don't want to be too competitive.

It's so weird and really a shame to see the U.K., a country with such a robust music scene, to end up taking places close to the last year after year. Like yeah, ok, some countries really don't like the UK., but they've also been sending irrelevant songs. Not particularly bad, just really forgettable.

It's strange that being biggest financial contributors they're ok with ending in last places every year, sometimes even without gettting any points. On the other hand, it would be even more strange and maybe even unfair if they would start sending their A tier stars like Dua Lipa or Ed Sheeran.

Yes, I agree. Croatia has a much better song than last year's entry, (which was a bit too controversial, imho.)  If I'm not mistaken, it resembles Rammstein's music a bit.
I'm not saying it's a ripoff, but maybe the artist was inspired by the iconic German rock band.

Actually, nowadays almost allsongs that I hear resembles something. It's getting hard to find something 100% unique. And probably to create too. They probably can sample parts of other songs not intentionally without even knowing about it.

[decodx]

Serbia's fired up for Eurovision 2024 with their national contest, "Pesma za Evroviziju", buzzing with great music!

You can watch live stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0VpZWSprOM


Also tonight:

🇮🇸 Iceland: Söngvakeppnin final, 20:45 ⭐️ (RÚV Player)
🇵🇹 Portugal: Festival da Canção semi-final 2, 22:00 (RTP Player)
🇷🇸 Serbia: Pesma za Evroviziju final, 21:00 ⭐️ (ERTS YouTube channel)
🇸🇪 Sweden: Melodifestivalen semi-final 5, 20:00 (SVT Player)

source: https://eurovision.tv/calendar

[o48o]

Finland, and not only because i am from Finland, but i am putting a ton of money into this. Here's my reasoning:

Windows95man is obviously a joke. But that's one of the reasons for my pick. Finland won Eurovision in 2006 with Lordi, that was sort of joke too.
They won because in 2006 winning was based on popular vote. Juries existed too, but because Eurovision was ashamed that Lordi won, after 2006 they gave more power to those juries to keep any weirdos out, so they won't vote for controversial or joke bands. Now, keeping that in mind:

1. Windows95man won Finland's finals because of popular vote, even when Jury gave least points to it.
2. When Loreen (sweden) won last year with her song "Tattoo" Against Käärijä's (Finland) "Cha cha cha", it was seen highly controversial, because loreen didn''t win with popular vote, it vote because of the jury vote. And when Loreen was picking up her price, whole arena chanted CHA CHA CHA!.

https://eurovisionfun.com/en/2023/05/loreen-it-didnt-bother-me-that-the-audience-was-singing-cha-cha-cha/

3. Now year after, voters see that the system is fixed against them, so i am guessing if will show somehow, like most people who voted käärijä last time could be giving sympathy votes for Finland, especially because Eurovision is happening in Sweden, this controversy will be remembered. And it would be so sweet to humiliate Sweden in their own turf, by something like this guy.



And if entries from other countries are going to be crappy enough, because of the reasons i already listed, i can see lot's of people giving a protest vote for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaIxsEPoS28

[alani123]

I think this year indeed joke songs will have higher chances to win because now yet another divisive issue has been added to the polarizing arena of international politics. Last year people were still voting based on the Ukraine/Russia war, now many countries are showing support to Palestine with their entry while others have so far showed support for Israel.

Even jury votes are kinda biased so this year the voters that go for a joke entry might be the most compact group.

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I haven't considered betting on it before, but it sounds like it could be a fun way to engage with the competition. Regarding the hot topic and controversy, it is strange how some political messages are tolerated while others aren't. Hopefully, the focus stays on the music itself.

Anyway, it's a shame to see countries like the U.K. not performing as well, considering their rich music history. But it's interesting to see Croatia is the favorite based on Eurovisionworld: eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision.

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

[Rufsilf]

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

[o48o]

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

Yeah, i am disagreeing with you. Part about emotions that you described is highly subjective and beauty (or emotion) is always in the eye of beholder.Calling music or musicians lifeless or shells is telling more about the fact that listener doesn't connect with it. It however doesn't mean others wouldn't. I recently read an article (i can't remember where) where people listened to music, written by AI, and people who were told it was written by AI, described it soulless and empty, while people who weren't told about it, didn't seem to be feeling that way, and it raising various emotions in them. This doesn't mean you have to see soul in everything or like it, i just think it's a matter of perspective.

About that poilitical part: Eurovision tries to stay apolitical, as it could easily turn a platform from uniting nations to tool for dividing people. Everything is political in some way, but it doesn't mean this is the correct platform for dividing messages, which this rule is supposed to fight against. It's about unity and music.

[Rufsilf]

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

Yeah, i am disagreeing with you. Part about emotions that you described is highly subjective and beauty (or emotion) is always in the eye of beholder.Calling music or musicians lifeless or shells is telling more about the fact that listener doesn't connect with it. It however doesn't mean others wouldn't. I recently read an article (i can't remember where) where people listened to music, written by AI, and people who were told it was written by AI, described it soulless and empty, while people who weren't told about it, didn't seem to be feeling that way, and it raising various emotions in them. This doesn't mean you have to see soul in everything or like it, i just think it's a matter of perspective.

About that poilitical part: Eurovision tries to stay apolitical, as it could easily turn a platform from uniting nations to tool for dividing people. Everything is political in some way, but it doesn't mean this is the correct platform for dividing messages, which this rule is supposed to fight against. It's about unity and music.

Then, I suppose, whether or not that music piques someone's interest truly depends on their personal taste. I suppose it was just not my sort of music, and our perspectives are different. I believe that having a soul when producing music is crucial since it can significantly increase the emotional effect we can achieve and produce the desired piece. In other words, if you are soulless, your compositions would lack feeling and genuineness. The modern world is so advanced in terms of technology that even artificial intelligence can compose a song, and people go crazy for it. AI has the potential to make humans stupid. While it can benefit certain people greatly and improve our thinking, in the end we are just fooling ourselves and becoming less productive as a result of our dependence on high-tech devices.
 
There is no need for an argument, as I also believe that music unites people and helps us understand one another. Music also serves as a means of bringing people together and connecting us all to do things that can benefit our society.

[Saint-loup]

Iceland has revealed the song they will likely choose for the contest yesterday, that is to say the winner of their national contest Söngvakeppnin 2024, we still don't know if they will participate because they don't want to compete with Israel AFAIK, but I really like this song, I think it's my favorite this year, up to now. I hope they will decide to participate because they could reach the Top5 or maybe the Top3 quite easily with this entry IMO


Hera Björk - Scared of Heights

[alani123]

Iceland has revealed the song they will likely choose for the contest yesterday, that is to say the winner of their national contest Söngvakeppnin 2024, we still don't know if they will participate because they don't want to compete with Israel AFAIK, but I really like this song, I think it's my favorite this year, up to now. I hope they will decide to participate because they could reach the Top5 or maybe the Top3 quite easily with this entry IMO


Hera Björk - Scared of Heights

It's almost a pity Bashar Murad who was tipped to represent Iceland this year lost to this.
From what I understand his lyrics had nothing to do with politics, but the sheer fact that he's Palestinian was surely something in response to Israel still participating in the contest.
It's been such a long time since we saw some good action in Eurovision.

You guys may not agree with me, but after hearing all of the entries you have been posting on this topic, it seems to me that modern music is just music. By composing their pieces, I've come to learn that some musicians are lifeless. It seemed as though they were merely performing; they had no emotion at all and were doing it to win the competition. You have to connect the lyrics with the music in order to truly appreciate its genuine meaning, which is not only based on the beat or rhythm, as only a few people will understand. Some lyrics can also be used in politics, you know. I mean, for me, there is nothing wrong when someone creates music about politics and how the government operates. In that way, they can express their feelings and be able to forward other people's concerns, and they will be able to become aware of the truth of how society is going. I think that it would catch the attention of people, and they would have some thoughts about it.

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

[Saint-loup]

It's almost a pity Bashar Murad who was tipped to represent Iceland this year lost to this.
From what I understand his lyrics had nothing to do with politics, but the sheer fact that he's Palestinian was surely something in response to Israel still participating in the contest.
It's been such a long time since we saw some good action in Eurovision.

Yes I agree with you, it would definitely have been a better move to address this controversy with a palestinian singer than to boycott the event or to threat to do it. But if she won it's for some reasons. Many people of the Eurovision's audience are women of her generation or older actually, and many younger ones could have her shape. The lyrics of the song are universal and romantic but they are very feminine too. Her voice and the dancing music are nice. So I think she's very likely to get many votes if she participates.

[FatFork]

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

Code:

https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

[decodx]

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

Code:

https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

Rollbit Casino has Eurovision Song Contest winner betting as well. Just sayin'. 

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites. Croatia seems to be the favorite among the bookies at the moment.

Croatia	3.75
Ukraine	4.4
Iceland	7.5
Italy	7.6
Belgium	12.8
Sweden	15.1
United Kingdom	17.6
France	17.6
Lithuania	19.1
Switzerland	20.1

[LTU_btc]

Isreal were allowed to participate in Eurovision after they made changes in lyrics of song:
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68505050
Despite it, their entry probably won't be less contraversial because of this.

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

Music from past looks better because it gives us nostalgy about our youth, childhod, bring back some good memories. Wouldn't say that nowadays music is bad, simply you shouldn't look at mainstream music. It applies to Eurovision too, this contest is mainly about genereic pop music. But every year we have at least we have at least few more sophisticated entries.
About Italy, seems that they simply can't send bad songs and it applies to their this year entry. And yeah, when Maneskin won few years ago, it let them to become one of the most popular bands in the world now.

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

Probably almost all bokmakers have it, after all, it's one of biggest events in Europe, only Olympics and football World Cup/Euro can compete with it.

[decodx]

No I kinda agree but what did you expect? High art or song that you can resonate with on a very personal level from an international competition?
Eurovision's format kinda favors low effort easy to understand songs. So rarely an artist will go there with his best song. They'll just write a pop song quite hastily specifically for the competition. It's a competition known for pop and RnB songs because they have the widest appeal. But there's the occasional outlier that also does well. We live for these moments here, like when Italy won.

If you think about it, even in Eurovision's "golden" era, the good music we remember from there is still corny pop songs like ABBA's waterloo...

Music from past looks better because it gives us nostalgy about our youth, childhod, bring back some good memories. Wouldn't say that nowadays music is bad, simply you shouldn't look at mainstream music. It applies to Eurovision too, this contest is mainly about genereic pop music. But every year we have at least we have at least few more sophisticated entries.
About Italy, seems that they simply can't send bad songs and it applies to their this year entry. And yeah, when Maneskin won few years ago, it let them to become one of the most popular bands in the world now.

You're both right, not every song from back in the day was a timeless work of art.  There was a ton of corny pop back then too! Even the Beatles were written off as junk once upon a time when they first came out, yet now we see them as undisputed legends.

Nowadays there's no shortage of raw talent in music, if you're willing to dig below the mainstream hits.  We just gotta put in the effort to explore different genres and find what suits our tastes - there truly is something for everyone.  Same idea applies to Eurovision.  Granted you'll always have some sugary throwaway tunes.  But if you keep an open mind...

[o48o]

Let me know if you find any crypto bookies accepting Eurovision bets!

There are many reputable online sportsbooks that do. Actually, almost all of them.

You can find Eurovision betting odds on popular platform BC.Game here:

Code:

https://bc.game/sports?bt-path=%2Fspecials-18

And there are of course others, such as BK8, Cloudbet, Duelbits, FortuneJack, Sportsbet, Stake...

So is anyone going to vote those non-favourites? I just reclaimed my JUN airdrop, so i am cashing that and wagering it for Finland.
Finland had 67x multiplier in bc.game (biggest one i've seen), so i wanted to try there. But since i didn't recall if i had registered yet, i tried to search all my emails from "bd.game", and nothing came up.

So i made an account there, and while i looked around before depositing, i spinned that flashy wheel with those free JB tokens as a bet. There came a popup screen saying that i wasn't eligible for the prize as someone has already registered an account from my ip or my computer. Now i am afraid to use that site anymore, because it will probably look like double accounting on purpose.

Stake had just 66x multiplier, so that's gonna do fine. But i would like to see odds for other crypto casinos for comparison and i didn't find eurovision from others you listed, even with google. Maybe you can give direct links?

[alani123]

I see many eurovision fans discussing Greece's entry favorably on social media this year. Here's the music video for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSTnLWGUPs

Marina Satti always has overproduced dances on her music videos, and this one especially is very campy in portraying modern Greek cultural icons in a very kitsch fashion. As a song though, it's not that interesting to me. Aesthetically pleasing for sure but nothing life changing. Also the vocals at the start are quite weird. Dunno though, at least we'll probably get to the final. After last year's tragic entry it's a fresh song to send to Eurovision which I'm glad about for my country. Also in our native language, which would be nice to see perform well.

[FatFork]

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Stake had just 66x multiplier, so that's gonna do fine. But i would like to see odds for other crypto casinos for comparison and i didn't find eurovision from others you listed, even with google. Maybe you can give direct links?

Yeah, Eurovision betting odds can be a bit tricky to find on some gambling platforms. Most casinos tend to focus more on traditional sports or esports.

Here's what you can try:

• Check the "Specials" or "Entertainment" sections: Some crypto casinos might list Eurovision odds under these categories instead of traditional sports.

For example:

Code:

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/eurovision/international/eurovision-2024/eurovision-2024-65e1b11faafd2b00010c2f01
https://wolf.bet/sportsbook/sports/specials/music/eurovision-song-contest
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[Saint-loup]

I see many eurovision fans discussing Greece's entry favorably on social media this year. Here's the music video for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSTnLWGUPs

Marina Satti always has overproduced dances on her music videos, and this one especially is very campy in portraying modern Greek cultural icons in a very kitsch fashion. As a song though, it's not that interesting to me. Aesthetically pleasing for sure but nothing life changing. Also the vocals at the start are quite weird. Dunno though, at least we'll probably get to the final. After last year's tragic entry it's a fresh song to send to Eurovision which I'm glad about for my country. Also in our native language, which would be nice to see perform well.

It's a good entry from Greece, the music, the song in Greek and the music video are quite original. I wonder if I will not send a vote for her during the sem-final(2nd) because she competes in the semi-final whose my country can vote. I like Denmark too in this semi-final so maybe I will vote for both entries at the end. 4 countries are missing for now though (Albania, Armenia, Georgia and Israel) and another one in the first semi-final (Azerbaijan).

[FatFork]

4 countries are missing for now though (Albania, Armenia, Georgia and Israel) and another one in the first semi-final (Azerbaijan).

You're right, there are still a few countries missing. Albania, Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan haven't revealed their entries yet.

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.


(https://youtu.be/lJYn09tuPw4)

[alani123]

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.

I see that this new song was released only a few hours ago on Eurovision's official YouTube account. It's interesting that Israel had an entire back up song and music video in production after their "October Rain" debacle. Also interesting how the European Broadcasting Union didn'g outright disqualify it and let them in with a different song.

As a song it's a more fitting song for Eurovision. But 17.00 is good enough based on how many Eurovision fans have come out against the contest based on the fact that Israel is participating. Certainly though on the opposite side of it there's gonna be people strategically maxing their votes in favor of Israel. I'd argue though that songs way down the list have better production. So it'll be interesting now to see if Israel moves further up or down the list after the change in songs.

[o48o]

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.

I see that this new song was released only a few hours ago on Eurovision's official YouTube account. It's interesting that Israel had an entire back up song and music video in production after their "October Rain" debacle. Also interesting how the European Broadcasting Union didn'g outright disqualify it and let them in with a different song.

As a song it's a more fitting song for Eurovision. But 17.00 is good enough based on how many Eurovision fans have come out against the contest based on the fact that Israel is participating. Certainly though on the opposite side of it there's gonna be people strategically maxing their votes in favor of Israel. I'd argue though that songs way down the list have better production. So it'll be interesting now to see if Israel moves further up or down the list after the change in songs.

Israel didn't have backup, they just changed the name and the lyrics. Now, according to the rules, it's not political anymore and they can use it. That is if the band doesn't pull any stunts on the middle of the act and won't get disqualifed after all. But i doubt band would do that. There's huge money involved if they would do well.

But i highly doubt they will do well. And i am seriously wondering why they have such high odds, even though they have done well in the past, many people are protesting it, and while you can't downvote them, i am guessing points will show in jury's decision as well with lack of voters from other countries.

If there would be one country that would be a direct protest vote against israel, i would bet on that. If it was possible, i would also bet on the possibility that they are getting booed live, i would actually bet lot's of my money on that. Eurovision brands itself as apolitical, but that doesn't mean people interacting with it will.

[alani123]

I see Greece went up a few spots in the odds and that's quite interesting.

I'm certain by the reactions I'm seeing that Greece will secure a spot in the final. But I'm wondering if the positivity by eurovision fans in social media is something to rely upon for judging song performance in the contest. For sure many of these people that react to these videos are kind of influencers now because they gather a very big audience simply for sharing their opinion. So in terms of showcasing a song to the public it plays an important role. I'm not sure if those placing bets have been taking this into account. Because for instance even though Croatia's song is first in the odds and it's also a good song imo, it hasn't been receiving the same attention on social media that young people like posting like TikTok.

[decodx]

The Eurovision contest is heating up as we get closer to the big event.  Croatia has been the frontrunner for a few weeks now. 

Ukraine is putting up a good fight for the top though.  They are currently sitting in second place, but the gap between them and Croatia seems to be growing bit by bit.  The bookies handicapping the contest think Croatia has it just about locked up at this point - they are offering really favorable odds, like 3-4 to 1 for them to win it all and  ukraine's odds of pulling off their fourth Eurovision victory are getting longer, now between 5-7 to 1. 

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out! Croatia's entry is catchy but Ukraine has some powerful vocals on their side.  Either one could end up the victor when the final votes are counted.


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

[Saint-loup]

The Eurovision contest is heating up as we get closer to the big event.  Croatia has been the frontrunner for a few weeks now.  

Ukraine is putting up a good fight for the top though.  They are currently sitting in second place, but the gap between them and Croatia seems to be growing bit by bit.  The bookies handicapping the contest think Croatia has it just about locked up at this point - they are offering really favorable odds, like 3-4 to 1 for them to win it all and  ukraine's odds of pulling off their fourth Eurovision victory are getting longer, now between 5-7 to 1.  

It will be fun to see how it all shakes out! Croatia's entry is catchy but Ukraine has some powerful vocals on their side.  Either one could end up the victor when the final votes are counted.


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

Odds for Croatia are very small indeed, so I wonder if bookmakers are not offering smaller odds than what it should be for this outcome actually. The song is good but it reminds "Cha cha cha" from Finland last year a little bit too much IMO. Anyway there are not so many banger songs this year, so he can benefit from that. To be honest I am only listening, from time to time though, 3 songs on Spotify personally : Poland, Denmark and Iceland.

[alani123]

I think what many people don't realize with Eurovision is how unpredictable it can be. On the one hand croatia has an addictive song which seems to be a reliable motif based on which a song can do really well in the contest, but that's not nearly close to the top of what's most important.

I think many things will be judged last minute, for instance as there's heightened political tension around certain issues at the moment, many people will be looking for a sign to express their opinion through their vote. I bet that if any country's delegation flashes the Palestinian flag even for a moment, lots of people would be motivated to vote regardless of song. And that's a factor many people don't seem to be taking into account. So for me Croatia dominating the odds with no second best close to it only makes it more attractive to bet on countries with smaller win chances at the moment.

[AmoreJaz]

I think what many people don't realize with Eurovision is how unpredictable it can be. On the one hand croatia has an addictive song which seems to be a reliable motif based on which a song can do really well in the contest, but that's not nearly close to the top of what's most important.

I think many things will be judged last minute, for instance as there's heightened political tension around certain issues at the moment, many people will be looking for a sign to express their opinion through their vote. I bet that if any country's delegation flashes the Palestinian flag even for a moment, lots of people would be motivated to vote regardless of song. And that's a factor many people don't seem to be taking into account. So for me Croatia dominating the odds with no second best close to it only makes it more attractive to bet on countries with smaller win chances at the moment.

I would say, betting on this kind of contest is very risky especially if you are not very familiar with the talents of each contestant. Better watch the show and not bet on this type of event. Also, there may be local/fiat betting sites that may offer odds but for crypto betting sites, I don't think so.

I found the current odds from several betting sites, and they are giving the percent chance of who will be the winner. But my take on this - sometimes it depends on the taste of the judges and the audience. How this contest will pan out during the finals.

https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

[LTU_btc]

I think what many people don't realize with Eurovision is how unpredictable it can be. On the one hand croatia has an addictive song which seems to be a reliable motif based on which a song can do really well in the contest, but that's not nearly close to the top of what's most important.

I think many things will be judged last minute, for instance as there's heightened political tension around certain issues at the moment, many people will be looking for a sign to express their opinion through their vote. I bet that if any country's delegation flashes the Palestinian flag even for a moment, lots of people would be motivated to vote regardless of song. And that's a factor many people don't seem to be taking into account. So for me Croatia dominating the odds with no second best close to it only makes it more attractive to bet on countries with smaller win chances at the moment.

I wouldn't say that Eurovision is highly unpredictable. As far as I remember in several recent years main favorite always won. In 3 recent years Italy, Ukraine or Sweden were highly favoured and won. Now situation is a bit different because Croatia isn't so highly favoured against other countries, we have several strong contenders.
It's also worth betting on which countries will reach final. But when it comes h2h betting, it's getting more difficult.

[alani123]

Dunno maybe I'm romanticizing things but I remember that in past competitions there used to be more than one favorites, plenty of songs that were objectively good and fit several styles. And quite often an outlier would win too. The quality of the competition has degraded a bit lately. Not only is it less entertaining to watch but also songs are soooo forgettable. Most Eurovision songs that are remembered as "good" are from many years ago. And it's a challenge to remember the lyrics or the beat of many entries, as it was the norm though.

This year's favorite being croatia surely is a different style than the rest, and this electro-rock style is favored lately but certainly it wasn't very noteworthy. So yes I think this year is going to be one of these years where the favorite for betting doesn't come first.

[decodx]

I did not expect Angelina Mango to surge into second place.  I enjoy her song La noia but Im not sure it has Eurovision winner written on it.

Croatia and Baby Lasagna still holding the top spot, fascinating! Is it just a catchy beat or the novelty aspect hooking people? Either way, it's definitely stirring up the competition.

Seeing Ukraine knocked out bummed me out - Alyona Alyona and Jerry Heil were my dark horse picks.

Anyone else surprised by the current standings? What do you think are Angelina's odds to win it all?

[Saint-loup]

Dunno maybe I'm romanticizing things but I remember that in past competitions there used to be more than one favorites, plenty of songs that were objectively good and fit several styles. And quite often an outlier would win too. The quality of the competition has degraded a bit lately. Not only is it less entertaining to watch but also songs are soooo forgettable. Most Eurovision songs that are remembered as "good" are from many years ago. And it's a challenge to remember the lyrics or the beat of many entries, as it was the norm though.

This year's favorite being croatia surely is a different style than the rest, and this electro-rock style is favored lately but certainly it wasn't very noteworthy. So yes I think this year is going to be one of these years where the favorite for betting doesn't come first.

You should be careful because sometimes some songs perform really poorly during the contest but after it, they encounter a nice success. In 2022 it has been the case with Rosa Linn from Armenia and her song SNAP. The song had a great success through Europe and around the world but she only ranked at the 20th position during the competition.

[LTU_btc]

You should be careful because sometimes some songs perform really poorly during the contest but after it, they encounter a nice success. In 2022 it has been the case with Rosa Linn from Armenia and her song SNAP. The song had a great success through Europe and around the world but she only ranked at the 20th position during the competition.
[/quote]
Yeah, I still remember this song - I hear it on radio quite often, probably more frequent than some songs which won in recent years. And in general, some songs which perform quite poorly in Eurovision is getting lot attention on Spotify, radio charts and etc.
But usually bookmers don't make mistakes with picking main favorites.

[alani123]

Seems like the tables have turned a bit:


Now Switzerland is first on the odds and Croatia and Italy follow closely.
In my opinion Switzerland surely has an interesting song but is it deserving of the win? Dunno.
I think Switzerland is in a bit of a tough spot because there's little to no regional alliance that will give them many max point votes. Like who do you have in mind giving Switzerland 12 point votes?
Germany? Austria? I'm sure not France because while there's a French speaking part but from what I'm aware most French people dislike them quite a bit.

Sad a song contest works like this but what can you do.

Speaking of actual songs though and not politics, Switzerland's song maybe was the last to be announced officially? Good strategy maybe as they're now first on the odds. The song has a breakdown which to me is a big lackluster for all the buildup, but the vocals lyrics and composition are very good and the ones that wrote the song must also be very talented as is the singer. I'm sure he could see some success even outside of eurovision, unlike many one shot artists in it

[decodx]

Yeah, Switzerland's moved to #1 on the betting odds, but I ain't buying it.  They might crack the top 10 at best in my book and  the song's got some good parts, but other bits and the whole performance is just too out there for me.  I dunno, weirdness is what some folks dig but I figure Croatias still got the edge with the televoters.  Could come down to the jury messing stuff up in the end though.

[acroman08]

Though, Israel actually has confirmed their participation and released their song already, it's called "Hurricane" by Eden Golan. Maybe the betting odds haven't been updated yet to reflect that.
-snip

Sorry if this might be too political but I am surprised that Israel was allowed to join in the end. a country who is indiscriminately killing women, children, humanitarian aid workers, etc... sand is being brought to court for war crimes hould not be allowed to join.

Seems like the tables have turned a bit:

I feel like Netherlands will be a strong contender, they have a catchy song and is gaining a lot of traction in the social media.

[Saint-loup]

Sorry if this might be too political but I am surprised that Israel was allowed to join in the end. a country who is indiscriminately killing women, children, humanitarian aid workers, etc... sand is being brought to court for war crimes hould not be allowed to join.

I feel like Netherlands will be a strong contender, they have a catchy song and is gaining a lot of traction in the social media.

I could agree with you but if they are as nasty as you say, people through televotes and juries won't vote for them and they will get a severe loss. I'm quite surprising to not see Netherlands at a better rank while they've got a huge amount of streaming on Spotify. And I wonder why bookmakers don't take that into account, do they think those numbers are fake? That is to say bots are listening them actually in order to inflate the figures.

[boltz]

Yeah, Switzerland's moved to #1 on the betting odds, but I ain't buying it.  They might crack the top 10 at best in my book and  the song's got some good parts, but other bits and the whole performance is just too out there for me.  I dunno, weirdness is what some folks dig but I figure Croatias still got the edge with the televoters.  Could come down to the jury messing stuff up in the end though.

I think Swiss will win it this year because they already had a great chance 2 years ago to win it but they ended on 3rd place I think and that was the first sign for me that Swiss is finally bringing super talented singers in order to win the trophy so no wonder why the bookies are favoring them here.

However, everything can change when we have the finals songs ready and I'm sure odds will change as well.

[decodx]

The competition to win Eurovision is starting to get intense, and you can see it in how the betting odds are changing! Based on the latest from Eurovisionworld, Switzerland's got the best chance right now with "The Code" by Nemo.  Not far behind them is Croatia's "Rim Tim Tagi Dim" by Baby Lasagna, and the Netherlands is in third with "Europapa" by Joost Klein.   

Of course just because they're on top now doesnt mean they'll stay there.  Italy is in a close fourth, at the moment. And it's never smart to fully count out Ukraine either.

Things are still wide open!

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites:

1. Switzerland 2.88   
2. Croatia 4.5   
3. Netherlands 4.5   
4. Italy 7   
5. Ukraine 11   
6. France 17
7. Israel 29   
8. Greece 29
9. Ireland 34   
10. Belgium 101   

[alani123]

In Greece there's been a viral reddit post going around where the author claimed to have cracked the code about what our entry's song actually means.

At first Zari sounds like a lovesong but when you look at the video and also then go back to the lyrics it makes more sense. Basically the video is kitsch depictions of recent Greek events that were overproduced such as the euro 2004 Greece win. Past glories in Short. All these are in proud display in the video and a tourist is shown in a rally car touring Greece.

According to that poster's analysis basically the meaning of the song is that while tourists come here to have fun, and we kinda depend on them because it's become our biggest industry, also we're suffering because of very high rent, low wages and even drinking water shortages due to tourism. Where the song says "I pretend I forget your aroma" it's an analogy to what we could achieve if we break from certain boundaries set on us by forgetting what we know, which is symbolic also because it's impossible to erase the memory of a smell as the human mind holds it forever. But if Marina can forget an aroma, maybe a country could overcome its burdens too.

It's a very weird discourse but the supposed hidden meaning of the song. But it has overall increased the popularity of the song locally. Not sure if this local vitality can translate to success in the competition also though.

[decodx]

In Greece there's been a viral reddit post going around where the author claimed to have cracked the code about what our entry's song actually means.

At first Zari sounds like a lovesong but when you look at the video and also then go back to the lyrics it makes more sense. Basically the video is kitsch depictions of recent Greek events that were overproduced such as the euro 2004 Greece win. Past glories in Short. All these are in proud display in the video and a tourist is shown in a rally car touring Greece.

According to that poster's analysis basically the meaning of the song is that while tourists come here to have fun, and we kinda depend on them because it's become our biggest industry, also we're suffering because of very high rent, low wages and even drinking water shortages due to tourism. Where the song says "I pretend I forget your aroma" it's an analogy to what we could achieve if we break from certain boundaries set on us by forgetting what we know, which is symbolic also because it's impossible to erase the memory of a smell as the human mind holds it forever. But if Marina can forget an aroma, maybe a country could overcome its burdens too.

It's a very weird discourse but the supposed hidden meaning of the song. But it has overall increased the popularity of the song locally. Not sure if this local vitality can translate to success in the competition also though.

Well, I just read this Reddit post discussing hidden meaning in the Eurovision entry from Greece .  Honestly pretty intriguing stuff - I'm a sucker for Eurovision songs that make you think beyond just boppin' your head to a catchy beat and  seems a lot of times the straight up pop bangers take the cake, but this Greek tune is sparking some neat discussions apparently.  Makes me curious if this Zari track might shock people! Cause in Eurovision, heck - wild things can happen outta nowhere. 

[STT]

The cheat sheet for who wins will be similar to the oscars, look for the theme.  We have a few wars ongoing at present etc.  so a peace theme might easily gain a global consensus which will secure the majority of votes over just a normal song that is ok in a pop way.   I reckon this is how it will go down this year especially with so many possibilities, they'll want some united positive type themed song and on average it will collect the most votes.

Israel is set to participate in the Eurovision Song Contest 2024 in Malmö, Sweden, with "Hurricane" performed by Eden Golan.

Remote as Israel might seem from Europe, the troubles ongoing will be a part of this contest so some discussion around this is inevitably going to occur.  Hence I do think some peace type anthem wins or some similar theme.

4.8m views Hurricane.   I like it tbh so post if theres a better song -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYn09tuPw4

[o48o]

Sorry if this might be too political but I am surprised that Israel was allowed to join in the end. a country who is indiscriminately killing women, children, humanitarian aid workers, etc... sand is being brought to court for war crimes hould not be allowed to join.

Agreed, and i don't know how we could avoid politics here. Israel was fist rejected because their entry was too political, so they changed it... twice. In 2009 Georgia was kicked out because because they refused to change lyrics. Their entry was called "We Don't Wanna Put In".

And even though Eurovision sees themselves as apolitical platform, they can't avoid the fact that voters will be politically motivated, because countries in them can have conflicts with each other. Like long conflict with Russia and Ukraine or Armenia and Azerbaijan. Neighbouring countries without conflicts often support each other, so one could see that regionally political as well. Personally i see political angle as unavoidable and i really don't even care about it. It's not like songs can compete to be objectively best in any meaningful way anyway. Opinions are biased by politics, because everything really is politics.

[alani123]

The cheat sheet for who wins will be similar to the oscars, look for the theme.  We have a few wars ongoing at present etc.  so a peace theme might easily gain a global consensus which will secure the majority of votes over just a normal song that is ok in a pop way.   I reckon this is how it will go down this year especially with so many possibilities, they'll want some unite type themed song.

I think the Oscars are even more biased than the Eurovision song contest. Oscars are even more biased and ideologically seclined.

Oscars are made by the so called academy and they pick nearly exclusively American film. At least with the Eurovision people can be heard in the vote and the result isn't so much about showcasing a nationally superior image above everyone else as American films do so one sided in their world view.

[LTU_btc]

Well, I just read this Reddit post discussing hidden meaning in the Eurovision entry from Greece .  Honestly pretty intriguing stuff - I'm a sucker for Eurovision songs that make you think beyond just boppin' your head to a catchy beat and  seems a lot of times the straight up pop bangers take the cake, but this Greek tune is sparking some neat discussions apparently.  Makes me curious if this Zari track might shock people! Cause in Eurovision, heck - wild things can happen outta nowhere. 

I like when songs have hidden message, but I'm not really sure that it may help. If you look at average Eurovision viewers knows these details, most of them here song for the first time and then vote. It's more about hardcore fans.
Now looked at odds, it's changed a bit since I checked last time. Switzerland is ranked highest, personally don't like it at all.
But I see that most contraversial entry Israel is ranked not bad, they can reach top 10. There is lot of people against them, but at the same time I think they will get quite a lot support.

[decodx]

Croatia has been rising to the top again ever since the rehearsals.  It was only a matter of time before they claimed the #1 spot, which happened last night after the first semi-final recap was released.  Looking at the latest odds, we see big shifts since yesterday.  Croatia now sits atop the leaderboard, with bookies offering them between 3-3.25 odds to win Eurovision for the first time ever. 

Switzerland was knocked out of first place for once after holding strong there since March and  bets on Switzerland and Nemo winning are now between 3.75-4.5   

Italy also lost ground with Ukraine jumping past them quickly.  You can get around 6-7 odds if you think Angelina Mango has a shot, while bets on Ukraine winning are 4.5-5.5 now.

Here is the current odds table for top 10 favourites:

1. Croatia 3   
2. Switzerland 4   
3. Ukraine 5.5   
4. Italy 6.5   
5. Netherlands 10   
6. France 17
7. Israel 23   
8. Ireland 23   
9. Greece 34
10. United Kingdom 41   

[o48o]

The cheat sheet for who wins will be similar to the oscars, look for the theme.  We have a few wars ongoing at present etc.  so a peace theme might easily gain a global consensus which will secure the majority of votes over just a normal song that is ok in a pop way.   I reckon this is how it will go down this year especially with so many possibilities, they'll want some unite type themed song.

I think the Oscars are even more biased than the Eurovision song contest. Oscars are even more biased and ideologically seclined.

Oscars are made by the so called academy and they pick nearly exclusively American film. At least with the Eurovision people can be heard in the vote and the result isn't so much about showcasing a nationally superior image above everyone else as American films do so one sided in their world view.

I am not so sure about that. Depends what you mean by being "more biased and ideologically seclined". Both of them try to stay apolitical, but i am pretty sure an oscar winner won't be discualifed if someone wears palestinian flag colors as a form of support, or a maga hat while picking the prize. Also politcs are impossible to avoid in movies.

Eurovision on the other hand wouldn't accept anything that sort behavior from the bands. And by applying strict restrictions political statements or slogans aren't allowed, they are actually setting rules on which political issues are allowed, as everything is politics.

I guess their reasoning is to avoid people using that as their propaganda tool. But it's really vague what they mean by political statement. Is not eating meat, or eating meat one of them? Or what kind of relationships people are allowed to have? Imho it's just based on judges feelings on the subject. What they like, and what they don't like to see. Just like in Oscars.

Anyway, it's starting soon. I wish i could bet on how many protests there are going to be.

[alani123]

So this Tuesday (which is today or tomorrow depending on your time zone) is the first demi final. I'll make a prediction on who passed to the final just for fun. I know some bookies have bets in that too but don't take me too seriously 


Let's see.
Cyprus, Ireland, Ukraine, Croatia, Finland, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Australia, Portugal, Lithuania

So many to choose from I had to decide some at random. What do you think.

[o48o]

So this Tuesday (which is today or tomorrow depending on your time zone) is the first demi final. I'll make a prediction on who passed to the final just for fun. I know some bookies have bets in that too but don't take me too seriously  


Let's see.
Cyprus, Ireland, Ukraine, Croatia, Finland, Moldova, Azerbaijan, Australia, Portugal, Lithuania

So many to choose from I had to decide some at random. What do you think.

Well Finland is in final, which i bet on with 19 multiplier, and 151 multiplier that it wins. I am already happy and rest is just free ride from here. Too bad that they only accepted low bet from me.

(Edit: now that I think about it. I might have bet it as a semifinal nr1 place, that would explain that high multiplier, and lost. Yep, i am an idiot. Well, anyway...)

I sincerely still think it's almost obvious that they win, but maybe i am biased and delusional. And of course there's a change they could make some sort of political demonstration in the end and get disqualified. But it's not like i would be in loss anymore, so that's fine with me. Some of these participants already wore palestanian keffiyeh scarf which is a statement but maybe too suddle for the rules to kick in. But in the words of windowsman95: "no rules"

[LTU_btc]

First semifinal for there was a bit too much freaks and not that much music. But I'm satisfied with results and also that my country got into final too.
Have no favorites for second semifinal and struggled to decide what bets to make. So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65. Also, it will be interesting to watch how audience will react to Israel performance.

[acroman08]

Also, it will be interesting to watch how audience will react to Israel performance.

I think they already performed(I am not really sure), I mean I saw there are videos(from two different perspectives) going around TikTok where people are booing their performance and chanting "free Palestine". I also saw several news outlets create an article about it(I didn't read the articles though, just the headline).

[alani123]

I am watching the second semi final now and every song so far is very good. Talented artists and good songs. Marina of Greece kinda fucked up on some parts but hopefully people are still going to vote for us. Czechia is unexpectedly good I am surprised they weren't higher in the odds. Albania also. So far 5 songs in I'll be sad if one of these doesn't make it to the final.

[Ultegra134]

To be honest, I haven't watched the Eurovision song contest for years, I didn't know you could even bet on it. I randomly opened the TV and encountered the last few songs for the semifinal contest. There are a few good songs, such as Belgium's, Czechia's or Croatia's.

I am watching the second semi final now and every song so far is very good. Talented artists and good songs. Marina of Greece kinda fucked up on some parts but hopefully people are still going to vote for us. Czechia is unexpectedly good I am surprised they weren't higher in the odds. Albania also. So far 5 songs in I'll be sad if one of these doesn't make it to the final.

We haven't had a decent song in years, and this year isn't any different. This is probably one of the most kitsch songs I've ever listened to. I don't understand why there's such a huge hype about it.

[STT]

I love the stage setup, much better then I remember prior contests.   The Czechia song is ok, could even be a pop hit but I'd label it too close to average algorithmic type of tune.  I'd love it in the car driving along to it, good bass and rhythm, lyrical; some music is best heard while distracted.   Going on previous winners this is not the feature tune winner of the contest overall imo.

Best I can do for it is 7 out of 10 and obviously Im looking for a 10, in quality, uniqueness or just because I personally like it and I do like Pedestal by Aiko but its not going to be enough for the big win is my first guess if being honest.

[Rikafip]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

[TopTort777]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago. If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Naked ass windows 95

[Rikafip]

You are about to win a several million whole in your country budget Because if you win, will have to built a new venue for just one event next year

We have places big enough for shows like that so we won't have to build it but you are right about wasting millions in case we win, as organising stuff like that cost shit load of money even without having to build a venue.

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago.

I was successfully avoiding Eurovision contests for years (mainly because my music taste is completely different from what you hear there) until I got married. I managed to avoid semifinals but unfortunately no way to skip final. 

If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Naked ass windows 95

I agree, its a fucking freakshow and I can't believe how obsessed people in Croatia are about it at the moment. I secretly wish for us not to win just so I can see all those people crying over something as unsignificant and political as Eurovision song contest is.

[alani123]

So, made one random bet Estonia and Belgium to reach final @1.65.

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence? 

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision. 

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and  the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

[Rikafip]

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.
Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that?

Yeah something dodgy is going on with televoting as I honestly doubt that Italians would vote in such a high percentage even for their own song (if they could do it), let alone for Israeli. Having said that, I also doubt that leaked results were honest mistake either.

t's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle...

Afaik you can vote from a single number 20 times max, so that means they would have to buy bunch of sim cards. Even though, I see no reason why its even allowed to vote more than once from a single number as this way it just makes it easier to manipulate voting but then again, maybe that's exactly why its made that way. 

[o48o]

In the end Belgium didn't reach the final and its interesting that they were one of the loudest protesters against Israel participating in this year's Eurovision. Coincidence?  

Situation is getting crazy over here in Croatia since our guy is one of the favorites for a win, its been the main topic in all the TVs and news portal and you just can't avoid it. Hell, even I started to follow that ridicolous thing called Eurovision.  

This is the current situation regarding odds and looking at it, Israel and (esepcially) Switzerland might not be bad bets (imho Croatia has a bad risk/reward ratio).


https://eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

And that accidental leak of Italy's televoting, which, if accurate, says a lot:
And this was supposed to be apolitical, which gets weirder all the time. Imagine Israel winning this? Would anyone go into that event, if next one would be hosted in Israel. Imagine the level of terrorism threat there.

I am still wishing for Finland as i placed my bets long time ago .

[Ultegra134]

It's fucking crazy, Italy released their voting results and there's some very suspicious activity going on for the semi-final voting.

Israel Getting nearly 40% of the votes? What kind of fixed voting is that? I understand if the EBU is willing to overlook that Israel has better chances than anyone now. I never expected to see this kind of fixed voting in eurovision especially now that voting in the competition has fallen out of fashion so much. It's not too unlikely that some Israeli firm outright purchased SMS credit to vote for their entry thousands of times automatically because Italy especially has had strong historical ties with Palestine and their liberation struggle... And also Italians staged some of the most massive protests against the genocide in Gaza. Israel is just trying to make a point at this point and  the EBU is just willing to eat it up completely.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries. Why is Israel even participating? It has no place in a European contest, especially after the genocide they're conducting against Palestine, and they have the nerve to act like nothing is happening and participate in a song contest. It must be one of their top priorities.

I'm not sure about yesterday's semifinals, but I saw a video during rehearsals where the singer was being booed at and even claimed that Eurovision was masking it so they weren't heard when broadcasting.

Edit: 3800th post woo

[Rikafip]

It seems there's a movement in social media, where people who want to protest Israel's actions are getting behind Croatia, and voting for it in masses just to make it sure it beats Israel, but as majority of the protesters aren't even watching eurovision or voting, israel sympathy votes could beat them.

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaign to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

This is the main reason I've stopped watching Eurovision; it has stopped being a song contest, and it's now a political battle between countries.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

[Ultegra134]

Yeah I saw that, some sort of campaignm to vote for either Croatia or Switzerland in order to prevent Israel winning. If you ask me, people are taking this way too seriously.

Everything is war. Music contest and sport competitions too.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

On the one hand, if you treat it solely as a song contest, I don't see why you shouldn't vote for Israel, provided that you liked their song, so me calling out Israel for participating is biased because I'm having the politics aspect in mind. On the other hand, I feel like Israel doesn't have a place in Eurovision, especially after the war in the Middle East. I feel like it's humiliating towards the thousands of deaths of innocent people from both sides. With all this happening, is a European song contest your priority?

I'm not sure if my way of thinking is wrong; usually there's no right or wrong opinion in such cases, but I understand why people are upset with them; they're just venting it through Eurovision.

[boltz]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

[o48o]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

It's always been political. They have just set vague rules on which political statements are allowed so they can say it's apolitical.

Rigged it has been since jury got to much weight to their votes and now it's nearly impossible to win, if jury happens to hate the song.
Most of the televotes have always been about support from neighbouring countries, sympathy votes for victims or votes used as political statements. I don't think it ever was just about the music.
Talent, melodies, performances are always subjective and matter of opinion. And lots of people would vote for their own countries if they could. And they definitely have been voting countries they have relatives in as for support. And now whole world can vote. So televoting is more interesting, at least if they go country by country and not just "here's votes from rest of the world"

Many songs from last year were really good bangers imho, so political voting didn't matter to me at all in qualitywise.

[LTU_btc]

Seems that things aren't changing and Croatia remains to be main favorite to win. Wouldn't be against it, but personally I like Italy most, though, their chances doesn't looks big.
What I really don't want that one of freaks like Switzerland or Ireland would win.

There's also reports now that the EBU added fake clap tracks to cover boos when Israel's entry aired. Crazy times we're living in:
https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/1coer9z/booed_or_booless_israels_crowd_reaction_on_tv/

We went from Israel barely being allowed in the contest supposedly to them receiving a EU-sponsored pass to vote fixing and the EBU intervening to make them look better against the crowd's wishes to boo them.

Our commentator who was working at arena said that there was huge mix between clapping and booing there that it was difficult to understand which kind of reactions we have more. And when I watched it on TV  you barely was able to hear much. But it's understandable reaction from EBU if they already allowed Israel to participate.

In other news, Netherland contestant has been kicked out of Eurovision. Allegedly, Joost Klein attacked one of the producers of the show.    Drama goes on, while odds remained pretty much similar to yesterday's.

As I understand this version was already denied, so, it's interesting what actually he did.

[Rikafip]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ?

It is more about everything else rather than about song quality, but I think that bookies are taking everything into consideration, including the "rigging" aspect of it. And that's why Isreal odds dropped down so much in the last few days. as they are lobbying hard and spending shit load of money on adds in an attempt to win.

As I understand this version was already denied, so, it's interesting what actually he did.

Afaik, the version that was denied was that he attacked someone from Isreali delegation. Dutch TV released statement saying that incident involved someone from the camera crew and their contestant, and that it was blown way out of proportion.

[Slow death]

Since Russia invaded Ukraine and terrorists entered Israel where they killed and kidnapped many people and Israel is retaliating, European countries and the United States continue to suffer from demonstrations by people in favor of the Palestinians, who reach the level of behaving like terrorists and I read on my country's news channel that in this contest you also see Palestinian supporters causing problems. something bad. Being a European competition for Europeans, there shouldn't be people demonstrating in favor of terrorists. I searched a little on Google and I see that this contest is having a lot of controversy.

The Eurovision final will kick off this evening, but the event has already been marred in controversy. Dutch singer Joost Klein has been axed from the final over alleged inappropriate behaviour and the Irish act has been absent from the flag ceremony.

source: https://news.sky.com/story/eurovision-2024-latest-updates-chaos-as-dutch-singer-axed-and-irish-star-demands-urgent-attention-over-separate-serious-incident-13131792

The judges will have a lot of work, in a music competition there shouldn't be any of these types of problems that are being reported, it should be a time for singers to compete politely, respecting the opponent and for the best singer to win. but I see that politics is involved in the contest

[decodx]

I get what you're saying about politics and all, but man, judging on vocals alone seems kinda narrow-minded. Like check it - a killer songs gotta be catchy as hell with a hook that reels you in.  Just cause someone can wail dont mean they got it locked up either and  you need the whole package.  I know there's shady stuff happening behind the scenes sometimes.  Allegations get thrown around every year of stolen wins or whatever.  But all that drama shouldn't stop you from enjoyin Eurovision if you're feeling it.  A couple lame decisions can't wreck it completely.  At the end of the day its still a blast for tons of people

Place your bets folks. Just a few minutes left! 

[Joca97]

Isn't Eurovision rigged from the start ? Like what is the point to bet on something that refs have massive influence on the song ? I remember when I was a kid the true Eurovision experience where talent and great voices won but lately all I see are political songs and those who actually have talent won't win so yea , no bets for me on this so called show.

Jury is mostly rigged by my point of views. We have seen that when Ukraine won with a bad song when the war started. Its mostly political,but i think this year Croatia will win the Eurovision and i dont think that it is fixed for them. So far they have the best odds to win by the bookies. Also sometimes singing dosent matter on this competition.

[darkangel11]

(...) also see Palestinian supporters causing problems. something bad. Being a European competition for Europeans, there shouldn't be people demonstrating in favor of terrorists. I searched a little on Google and I see that this contest is having a lot of controversy.

Yes, I agree with you, it's a European contest, so why the fuck is Israel allowed to compete? No wonder Palestinian supporters are causing trouble. Looks like they don't want to see invaders from another continent represented in their European song contest.
It's funny how biased the whole thing is. They banned Russia after invasion of Ukraine and allowed Israel to compete after invasion of Palestine, even though it's not even located close to Europe.
Now they Banned Netherlands because of a complaint by one woman... So you can get to a final and someone says you were rude and you're kicked out? Listen up - he farted during a rehearsal and then laughed at it instead of apologizing! Kick him out!

[boltz]

I like Croatia , Ireland ( #crownthewitch please ) , Norway and I'm thinking to place a vote on each of them but to bad you can't vote from your telephone anymore and you need to use your creditcard which I kinda don't like it. I also think UK will get 0 points because kids were watching and that was embarrassing ...

[STT]

Irish entry is a definite no for me, its more worthy of a drama then a song and its well produced I guess.  Could be Im out of touch and that'll get pts because the crowd seemed to like it just now.   Not surprised they tie to something more exclusive like a credit card where they can eliminate multiple votes by the same person perhaps is why.

Latvia is far more conventional, thats a great voice.  I notice alot of the songs are in English as the lyrics can get more votes from across the variety of countries I guess but I hope something unique gets the win.   This guy has a great voice and the song I rate 6/10, could be a winner if people like it tbh.

[Saint-loup]

I like Croatia , Ireland ( #crownthewitch please ) , Norway and I'm thinking to place a vote on each of them but to bad you can't vote from your telephone anymore and you need to use your creditcard which I kinda don't like it. I also think UK will get 0 points because kids were watching and that was embarrassing ...

It must be because the country from where you are or at least the country your number belongs to, is not participating to the contest this year. Because any country participating can vote through SMS or phone call. Besides that I agree with you UK (and Spain too) entries are not really appropriate for a family show with children IMO. The event will lose viewers in the coming years if they don't try to be more suitable for a family audience.

[boltz]

I like Croatia , Ireland ( #crownthewitch please ) , Norway and I'm thinking to place a vote on each of them but to bad you can't vote from your telephone anymore and you need to use your creditcard which I kinda don't like it. I also think UK will get 0 points because kids were watching and that was embarrassing ...

It must be because the country from where you are or at least the country your number belongs to, is not participating to the contest this year. Because any country participating can vote through SMS or phone call. Besides that I agree with you UK (and Spain too) entries are not really appropriate for a family show with children IMO. The event will lose viewers in the coming years if they don't try to be more suitable for a family audience.

Ahh that's why as a Romanian I couldn't vote from my phone well yea because in the last 2 decades this is the first time since Romania is not present because the funds for Eurovision are most likely use on the electoral campaign which is pretty sad .

I'm happy UK got 0 points from public because kids were watching man and that is not appropriate at all but I also dislike heavily the fact that Swiss won based on what ? the song is just another radio song that will be forgotten in about 1 week + he broke the code and also the trophy.

I can also say that Norway and France were the best voices on this show and I can't believe it Norway were placed last...

[alani123]

Anyone here made any money from betting on the Eurovision song contest?

Post them please  we could use a highlight before I have to lock this year's thread in a few days.
Personally I was very disappointed by the very narrow selection of bet options on Eurovision crypto sports books had so I didn't end up betting on anything but now that I think about it, shame on me for liking Switzerland's entry and not putting a single dollar towards it 😅

[LTU_btc]

I'm happy UK got 0 points from public because kids were watching man and that is not appropriate at all but I also dislike heavily the fact that Swiss won based on what ? the song is just another radio song that will be forgotten in about 1 week + he broke the code and also the trophy.

Yeah, not really happy with Switzerland win, didn't liked it at all and already forgot how it sounds. Interesting what result it would be if it would be performed by someone who doesn't considers themselves and non-binary gender and wearing dress. I guess somewhere in the middle.
It looks that both jury and people voted quite similar, what isn't very common. Only big exception is Israel, they didn't got much votes from jury, but got a lot from spectators.

Anyone here made any money from betting on the Eurovision song contest?

Post them please  we could use a highlight before I have to lock this year's thread in a few days.
Personally I was very disappointed by the very narrow selection of bet options on Eurovision crypto sports books had so I didn't end up betting on anything but now that I think about it, shame on me for liking Switzerland's entry and not putting a single dollar towards it 😅

Nothing worth to share, just some low odds bets like Italy finishing 1st from Big 5  or Lithuania top from Baltic states.
Yeah, most of crypto sportsbook didn't had anything interesting to offer this year.

[TopTort777]

I have stopped watching Eurovision song contest as it has stopped to be a contest long time ago.

I was successfully avoiding Eurovision contests for years (mainly because my music taste is completely different from what you hear there) until I got married. I managed to avoid semifinals but unfortunately no way to skip final. 

Lol, I am in the same situation. But as an experienced husband, I have found a solution (might now work for you). When I dont want to watch finals, I suggest we take a ride to her mother As she lives in the different city +300km away, I am usually "to much tired from the road to watch".

If it was all about politics, then this years it has to many freaks. People dont know how to get more attention so they try to impress with their freakiness. Witch from Ireland. WTF from Finland Naked ass windows 95

I agree, its a fucking freakshow and I can't believe how obsessed people in Croatia are about it at the moment. I secretly wish for us not to win just so I can see all those people crying over something as unsignificant and political as Eurovision song contest is.

A guy, wearing tights and skirt, dressed in feather crap won. Imho this competition is not suitable to watch with kids anymore and it turned to be like this long time ago...

[Distraction]

I think it was a totally unfair result. I believe Croatia was the most deserving country. Not only with the song but also the choreography it was really impressive. 

I wonder how many people bet on Croatia to win. I liked Norway's performance also but we saw them in the last place. It is really hard to understand how the jury is assessing the performances. I think Eurovision was much better in the distant past. Maybe it was never totally fair but at least we were witnessing good performances to win. But why I'm wasting my energy, even Israel was accepted to the contest. 

[boltz]

I think it was a totally unfair result. I believe Croatia was the most deserving country. Not only with the song but also the choreography it was really impressive. 

I wonder how many people bet on Croatia to win. I liked Norway's performance also but we saw them in the last place. It is really hard to understand how the jury is assessing the performances. I think Eurovision was much better in the distant past. Maybe it was never totally fair but at least we were witnessing good performances to win. But why I'm wasting my energy, even Israel was accepted to the contest. 

They were the best by far and they deserved to win but once again Eurovision proved to be just a political show and the best songs and voice won't win no matter what.

Did anyone notice that both ladies made a mistake when they were about to announce the winner ? they said Swiss was in front but in that moment , Croatia was in front and that is were I knew they blundered so hard and announced the winner by mistake and 1 minute later Swiss was the winner...

[FatFork]

I'm happy UK got 0 points from public because kids were watching man and that is not appropriate at all but I also dislike heavily the fact that Swiss won based on what ? the song is just another radio song that will be forgotten in about 1 week + he broke the code and also the trophy.

Yeah, not really happy with Switzerland win, didn't liked it at all and already forgot how it sounds. Interesting what result it would be if it would be performed by someone who doesn't considers themselves and non-binary gender and wearing dress. I guess somewhere in the middle.
It looks that both jury and people voted quite similar, what isn't very common. Only big exception is Israel, they didn't got much votes from jury, but got a lot from spectators.

I think otherwise. The jury's votes are dramatically out of sync with the audience's preferences this year. For example, Switzerland would have only placed fifth according to the public vote.

I think it's high time to eliminate the jury voting at the Eurovision Song Contest. Many viewers feel frustrated that no matter how much public support their favorite acts get, the professional jury members override popular opinion to hand victories to less popular performers. Over the past few years especially, their bloc voting has catapulted somewhat questionable winners to the top spot over more crowd-pleasing hopefuls. With the experts accounting for 50% of each country's score, the public's role in picking the champion seems diminished. What's the purpose of letting fans vote in a contest where their preferences carry so little weight? If the EBU wants to retain public engagement they should reassess how much influence televoters versus judges have on the final outcome.

[Saint-loup]

Ahh that's why as a Romanian I couldn't vote from my phone well yea because in the last 2 decades this is the first time since Romania is not present because the funds for Eurovision are most likely use on the electoral campaign which is pretty sad .

I'm happy UK got 0 points from public because kids were watching man and that is not appropriate at all but I also dislike heavily the fact that Swiss won based on what ? the song is just another radio song that will be forgotten in about 1 week + he broke the code and also the trophy.

I can also say that Norway and France were the best voices on this show and I can't believe it Norway were placed last...

Yes your prediction was amazing because only one country of all didn't receive any point from the public and it was UK. It made me laugh when they announced 0 point for them because I remembered what you've said. But I didn't expect it will be the only country not receiving any point.
Regarding Switzerland, I didn't like the song at all when I watched it on Youtube before the show, I've never listened to it on Spotify and I will certainly never do, I didn't really understand why bookmakers took it as one of their favorites even if Switzerland usually finishs in good ranks. But his performance had been really surprising tbh, very original, with a very nice voice. And I really thought he will fall from the platform to be honest lol. So I wasn't surprised he got so many points from the jury. Switzerland is known to take the contest very seriously. They usually listen hundreds of songs before choosing one.
https://eurovisionworld.com/eurovision/2024#scoreboard

[Rikafip]

Lol, I am in the same situation. But as an experienced husband, I have found a solution (might now work for you). When I dont want to watch finals, I suggest we take a ride to her mother As she lives in the different city +300km away, I am usually "to much tired from the road to watch".

Yeah that woulnd't work as unfortunately my mother in law lives like 10 kilometres away from me. 

A guy, wearing tights and skirt, dressed in feather crap won.

Add on that a decent song (which realistically it was, aside the woke lyrics) and guy being "non-binary" and that's all you need for a Eurovision song win.

I wonder how many people bet on Croatia to win.

Probably alot, given the odds. I did warn people in this thread that it is a bad bet due bad risk to reward ratio.

[LTU_btc]

A guy, wearing tights and skirt, dressed in feather crap won. Imho this competition is not suitable to watch with kids anymore and it turned to be like this long time ago...

Yeah, we already seesuch things for maybe last 15 years, but I think that this year we had more than ever freaks. And probably not only kids saw Ireland's witch in their nightmares tonight. I don't mind guy wearing skirt, but when someone considers themselves as ''non-binary'', I just want say - World, please stop, I want to get off.

I think otherwise. The jury's votes are dramatically out of sync with the audience's preferences this year. For example, Switzerland would have only placed fifth according to the public vote.

I think it's high time to eliminate the jury voting at the Eurovision Song Contest. Many viewers feel frustrated that no matter how much public support their favorite acts get, the professional jury members override popular opinion to hand victories to less popular performers. Over the past few years especially, their bloc voting has catapulted somewhat questionable winners to the top spot over more crowd-pleasing hopefuls. With the experts accounting for 50% of each country's score, the public's role in picking the champion seems diminished. What's the purpose of letting fans vote in a contest where their preferences carry so little weight? If the EBU wants to retain public engagement they should reassess how much influence televoters versus judges have on the final outcome.

I agree about removing jury voting, almost every year we have contraversy with it. But my thought about not big difference between jury and public voting is that there was no cases where countries after jury voting where in the bottom and they were lifted up to top part by public. Only exception as I already said probably is Israel. While Switzerland, almost all juries voted for him, while 5th place from public is still high and not somewhere in the bottom. But yeah, just with public votes he wouldn't won it.
If there is no plans to remove jury, I think that their voting should have less weight, like 25% or something similar.

[STT]

Like the Oscars you have expect some element of a theme or cause in the winning entry.  Eurovision being very political has been true for years.  UK gets less votes every year because they left the eu which is nonsense because they remain in Europe anyway.  How Israel gets in is via a television network apparently if I remember the argument rightly.

[alani123]

Since Russia invaded Ukraine and terrorists entered Israel where they killed and kidnapped many people and Israel is retaliating, European countries and the United States continue to suffer from demonstrations by people in favor of the Palestinians, who reach the level of behaving like terrorists and I read on my country's news channel that in this contest you also see Palestinian supporters causing problems. something bad.

Friend, if ever your peoples get genocided, I wish nobody protesting against the genocide killing your family gets called a terrorist.

And with that, I guess it's time to lock this thread.
Eurovision was a grand shit show this year. Hopefully the Swiss organizing it will do better.