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February 27, 2024, 01:03:47 AM
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So as title explains, I sent BTC from a site to my wallet and after that I triple check that the btc address I sent to is the one in my wallet, but now I cant find that address in the wallet.

 I have previously sent a specific amount which I can deduce is one of the transactions that took place when sending from this site before and never had any issues. I have also saved this address under a nickname for the address so I dont have to enter the address again, and have used it before without issues.

Last time I used that address was 2 months ago. But when O search for that address when triple checking I cant find it even if I tick the box that says "show used" which I assume is refering to the addresses.

Will my BTC arrive and how do I sync it? It says connected and is green. Proxy is not enabled but balance is not updating.
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February 27, 2024, 01:37:19 AM
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1) search for that address in the block explorer, Has the transaction been confirmed? you can find the TX ID in the withdrawal list of that site/crypto exchange.
2) Make sure your wallet is synced (green button below)
3) Open console and type ismine("THAT ADDRESS HERE")

If you do not get true, it is most likely due to the Clipboard virus.
Copy any Bitcoin address from your wallet and paste it. If there is a change in the address, format your device.

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February 27, 2024, 02:09:35 AM
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1) search for that address in the block explorer, Has the transaction been confirmed? you can find the TX ID in the withdrawal list of that site/crypto exchange.
2) Make sure your wallet is synced (green button below)
3) Open console and type ismine("THAT ADDRESS HERE")

If you do not get true, it is most likely due to the Clipboard virus.
Copy any Bitcoin address from your wallet and paste it. If there is a change in the address, format your device.

Transaction confirmed. Button is green. It said synchronizimg but did not update balance. Previously received transaction 2 months ago are listed as Older and <no lable> and when selected it shows me inputs (1) where it says: address unknown and unknown amount. Under outputs (15) they are listed as normal with addresses and amounts on all 15.

I am on the mobile app. How do I open the console and enter those commands? The transaction id for the payment to my wallet was 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265 and the previous transaction id of the last 2 month old successful payment was fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128 and these were both sent to the same address but I cant see the address to which my last payment was, but I can see the amount which I can check the address of, from the site that sent the payment so they should be the same (ending in gns)

Thank you for helping out but I guess im fucked? The only weird thing Ive done is using tunnelbear vpn but never within logging into my wallet.

Is the clipboard virus on mobile?
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February 27, 2024, 02:40:48 AM
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I am on the mobile app. How do I open the console and enter those commands? The transaction id for the payment to my wallet was 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265 and the previous transaction id of the last 2 month old successful payment was fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128 and these were both sent to the same address but I cant see the address to which my last payment was, but I can see the amount which I can check the address of, from the site that sent the payment so they should be the same (ending in gns)

OLD TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128
New TX: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265

Since you did not mention your Bitcoin address, I assume that it is one of the OLD TX addresses. I have tried all the addresses and unfortunately none of them appear in the new transaction, or in other words, you did not copy your old address.

Is the clipboard virus on mobile?
Yes, Copy any Bitcoin address and paste it anywhere. Did the address you copied change? If it changes, it is clipboard virus.
Did you update Electrum or download it from an unknown source?
Have you downloaded an app or game in the past two months?

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February 27, 2024, 05:31:59 AM
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I am on the mobile app. How do I open the console and enter those commands? The transaction id for the payment to my wallet was 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265 and the previous transaction id of the last 2 month old successful payment was fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128 and these were both sent to the same address but I cant see the address to which my last payment was, but I can see the amount which I can check the address of, from the site that sent the payment so they should be the same (ending in gns)
I've checked the latest transaction "0a11177e..." and the address ending in "gns", and this is the only other transaction that slightly fits to the 2months timeframe,
Link: https://blockstream.info/tx/5976c31841abbb6095fbb5e59a4599a64fca6236a8b5a3bd802b49b78f53a0d7
Can you find this transaction in that site's sent transaction history?

Have you created another wallet aside from the one you're using now?
Check if your Electrum has another wallet in: "(wallet icon/name)->Other wallets"
If so, tap the not-loaded one and see if the address is in there.

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February 27, 2024, 10:28:09 AM
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So as title explains, I sent BTC from a site to my wallet and after that I triple check that the btc address


Could you reveal that  btc address? Both trx you have provided (fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128   and 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265) are batch transactions (likely from some exchange)  that don't have at least two similar destinations addresses.

If you are 100%  sure in putting the correct address at sending you may consult support of that exchange asking them to explain the discrepancy in their transaction.

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February 27, 2024, 11:15:03 AM
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Could you reveal that  btc address? Both trx you have provided (fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128   and 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265) are batch transactions (likely from some exchange)  that don't have at least two similar destinations addresses.

If you are 100%  sure in putting the correct address at sending you may consult support of that exchange asking them to explain the discrepancy in their transaction.



Here's the address he talking about bc1q9eyqmvqn9qxedza7sxx6v3tjkk8xjqr7lf7gns with the end gns but it does not show this address on the 2nd transaction.


@OP do you have a backup seed phrase of your old wallet?
If you have then try to restore your wallet and maybe the wallet you currently use is different from the old wallet you use.

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February 27, 2024, 12:18:42 PM
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Could you reveal that  btc address? Both trx you have provided (fea2cb06bdef0d15f710e2130d5938deb1176829a5375625a14b51861f108128   and 0a11177e7aa80e8729b6c1f31a90a7449a8b6ac06c4cf537e66d1f4b2a3ad265) are batch transactions (likely from some exchange)  that don't have at least two similar destinations addresses.

If you are 100%  sure in putting the correct address at sending you may consult support of that exchange asking them to explain the discrepancy in their transaction.



Here's the address he talking about bc1q9eyqmvqn9qxedza7sxx6v3tjkk8xjqr7lf7gns with the end gns but it does not show this address on the 2nd transaction.


@OP do you have a backup seed phrase of your old wallet?
If you have then try to restore your wallet and maybe the wallet you currently use is different from the old wallet you use.

I restored the wallet from the seed phrase in electrum after someone on reddit telling me to. He also asked me to install trust wallet from the Android app store, which I did. Then he told me to visit a website I will not name, but after googling the website it said it has been up for less than a month so I never clicked the link. I have 2 wallets in my electrum app and they are the same wallet with the same balance. But I can not send any btc? Did me downloading the trust wallet fuck me?

Here are some screenshots.

https://ibb.co/k57zKsx
https://ibb.co/vzyCG4c
https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m

See anything weird? I updated the electrum app after I made the payment from the other site to my wallet.

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Last edit: February 27, 2024, 01:52:04 PM by BitMaxz
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I restored the wallet from the seed phrase in electrum after someone on reddit telling me to. He also asked me to install trust wallet from the Android app store, which I did. Then he told me to visit a website I will not name, but after googling the website it said it has been up for less than a month so I never clicked the link. I have 2 wallets in my electrum app and they are the same wallet with the same balance. But I can not send any btc? Did me downloading the trust wallet fuck me?

Here are some screenshots.

https://ibb.co/k57zKsx
https://ibb.co/vzyCG4c
https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m

See anything weird? I updated the electrum app after I made the payment from the other site to my wallet.



What link he provide can you post it here so that we know if it is a phishing site or not?

The bad thing you did is that you installed the trust wallet and the Electrum seed phrase is not compatible with any wallet. If you imported this seed phrase to other wallets like trustwallet it's not safe anymore.

Under this image


I noticed something weird it seems you have lots of multiple wallets?
Maybe you did miss the real wallet that you looking for? the wallet that includes the address with the end "gns" better check all other wallets by clicking that wallet pointed on the image and click other wallets. I suggest check  them one by one and look for your address.

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February 27, 2024, 02:17:43 PM
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I restored the wallet from the seed phrase in electrum after someone on reddit telling me to. He also asked me to install trust wallet from the Android app store, which I did. Then he told me to visit a website I will not name, but after googling the website it said it has been up for less than a month so I never clicked the link. I have 2 wallets in my electrum app and they are the same wallet with the same balance. But I can not send any btc? Did me downloading the trust wallet fuck me?

Here are some screenshots.

https://ibb.co/k57zKsx
https://ibb.co/vzyCG4c
https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m

See anything weird? I updated the electrum app after I made the payment from the other site to my wallet.



What link he provide can you post it here so that we know if it is a phishing site or not?

The bad thing you did is that you installed the trust wallet and the Electrum seed phrase is not compatible with any wallet. If you imported this seed phrase to other wallets like trustwallet it's not safe anymore.

Under this image
https://i.ibb.co/YNNffGc/1377wal.png

I noticed something weird it seems you have lots of multiple wallets?
Maybe you did miss the real wallet that you looking for? the wallet that includes the address with the end "gns" better check all other wallets by clicking that wallet pointed on the image and click other wallets. I suggest check  them one by one and look for your address.

I did this after sending to the wallet and I started getting awkward when I couldnt find it. I did import my seed phrase to the other wallet so maybe that is what has happened here? But I uninstalled a lot of apps and ran Malwarebytes and unchecked a lot of allowed things in the app center of the mobile and I re installed electrum from electrum.org and imported new wallet with the seed phrase and I get the old balance up again after synchronizing. But last night i had 62 synchronizing events. Today I had 70 synchronized events when I re installed the electrum app and wallet but the same balance is there, the old balance.

What does this mean? The seed phrase is imported by someone else and created a wallet somewhere else for someone? But when I load this new wallet plus seed phrase i still get the old balance so idk?
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When I use a seed phrase and import to a new wallet or whqt do you call it, I mean when using the seed phrase and using it once to be restored, if i then in this newly restored wallet, if I tap to show seed, should it show a new seed phrase or the old seed phrase? It shows the old seed phrase. I dont know if that matters but I am holding onto hope since I am indeed getting the correct balances but I am not getting shown the address of my over 2 months old transactions.

The scam link he wanted me to visit which I did not was: bit pulse portal .com
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February 27, 2024, 03:46:34 PM
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When I use a seed phrase and import to a new wallet or whqt do you call it, I mean when using the seed phrase and using it once to be restored, if i then in this newly restored wallet, if I tap to show seed, should it show a new seed phrase or the old seed phrase? It shows the old seed phrase. I dont know if that matters but I am holding onto hope since I am indeed getting the correct balances but I am not getting shown the address of my over 2 months old transactions.

The scam link he wanted me to visit which I did not was: bit pulse portal .com
Honestly, I'm confused once you restore the seed phrase to Electrum wallet the seed phrase that you import should the same when you tap the show seed in your Electrum mobile wallet it shouldn't generate a different address incase if it generates a new seed phrase it means you are using a fake Electrum wallet.

Since you said that after you import the seed phrase to the newly installed Electrum and the old transactions and balance show up you shouldn't be worried it means the funds you looking for are still in your wallet.

You should be able to see all of your addresses when you click the wallet on the top-left> addresses/coins tap the show used.
If you can't still find the address you looking for maybe that address you looking for with the last 3 letters "gns" is not yours?

Why do you worry if you already see that your wallet has an old balance?

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February 27, 2024, 04:26:52 PM
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When I use a seed phrase and import to a new wallet or whqt do you call it, I mean when using the seed phrase and using it once to be restored, if i then in this newly restored wallet, if I tap to show seed, should it show a new seed phrase or the old seed phrase? It shows the old seed phrase. I dont know if that matters but I am holding onto hope since I am indeed getting the correct balances but I am not getting shown the address of my over 2 months old transactions.

The scam link he wanted me to visit which I did not was: bit pulse portal .com
Honestly, I'm confused once you restore the seed phrase to Electrum wallet the seed phrase that you import should the same when you tap the show seed in your Electrum mobile wallet it shouldn't generate a different address incase if it generates a new seed phrase it means you are using a fake Electrum wallet.

Since you said that after you import the seed phrase to the newly installed Electrum and the old transactions and balance show up you shouldn't be worried it means the funds you looking for are still in your wallet.

You should be able to see all of your addresses when you click the wallet on the top-left> addresses/coins tap the show used.
If you can't still find the address you looking for maybe that address you looking for with the last 3 letters "gns" is not yours?

Why do you worry if you already see that your wallet has an old balance?

Thank you for assisting btw. Means a lot to me.

I am worried since I sent btc to this wallet and this address before, which arrived. The site I used to buy bitcoins on and send them to this adress and wallet has a drop down menu when sending the btc after purchasing them, where I can select to send the newly bought btc to again, to avoid having to re-enter the btc address. If I used it once and the exact amount arrived back then, I should be able to just use the same option in the drop down menu to send another transaction and it should arrive. But it does not arrive, but is sent from the exchange service which I have used for years now.

But it never arrived. Where should I look for the problem? Because I have sent to this adress successfully before and when back tracking that old transaction I find the amount of that transaction listed as arrived. But I dont find an address attached to the transaction, nor do I find it when searching in the wallet and ticking the box "show used".

I am trying to figure this out on a mobile and it is very confusing because I cant see any apparent mistake, except for the issue you mentioned in me making my wallet unsafe by downloading trust wallet and using my seed phrase there. But even so when I use the seed phrase in electrum after installing it from the source, my old balance appears but without the new incoming transaction.

When you say I made my wallet unsafe, can they somehow make a copy of my wallet to themselves somehow, and let m "have" the old balance and be able to send it? But kept the new incoming transaction somehow? Because there is clearly something I missed after triple Triple checking the purchase, the transaction id.

Except from the making my wallet unsafe and downloading trust wallet, the only mistake I might have made was to use the same way I once successfully used to receive bitcoins into my wallet, another time.

Did I shed any clarity on the issue or can you maybe tell me what im missing because I clearly fucked it up and cant seem to understand how, kind of.
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February 27, 2024, 04:53:48 PM
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When I use a seed phrase and import to a new wallet or whqt do you call it, I mean when using the seed phrase and using it once to be restored, if i then in this newly restored wallet, if I tap to show seed, should it show a new seed phrase or the old seed phrase? It shows the old seed phrase. I dont know if that matters but I am holding onto hope since I am indeed getting the correct balances but I am not getting shown the address of my over 2 months old transactions.

The scam link he wanted me to visit which I did not was: bit pulse portal .com
Honestly, I'm confused once you restore the seed phrase to Electrum wallet the seed phrase that you import should the same when you tap the show seed in your Electrum mobile wallet it shouldn't generate a different address incase if it generates a new seed phrase it means you are using a fake Electrum wallet.

Since you said that after you import the seed phrase to the newly installed Electrum and the old transactions and balance show up you shouldn't be worried it means the funds you looking for are still in your wallet.

You should be able to see all of your addresses when you click the wallet on the top-left> addresses/coins tap the show used.
If you can't still find the address you looking for maybe that address you looking for with the last 3 letters "gns" is not yours?

Why do you worry if you already see that your wallet has an old balance?

I think I figured it out but just to get to our opinion: my wallet is safe if I see my old balance and am able to recover it using the seed phrase and can send btc from it?

My mistake was fat fingering and/or laggy btc purchase platform (or laggy mobile) because when I triple checked the amount i not only once but twice clicked on one thing and it appeared to show me the transaction of one thing and one date and one amount, when it in fact was another transaction and another date and another amount, kind of.

Thank you for assisting me. Getting paranoid and wondering where it went wrong despite "triple checking" while using the mobile (which apparently even despite being a many a years user) is not fool proof.

5th time I re tracked my steps I now know where the btc was sent. But again, is my wallet safe if I can see the old balance and am connected and have changed password to the wallet?
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February 27, 2024, 05:03:04 PM
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The bc1q9eyqmvqn9qxedza7sxx6v3tjkk8xjqr7lf7gns address first received bitcoin in December 2023. A few days later, you sent that amount to somewhere else. Yesterday, you received 0.00211077 BTC to your bc1q9eyqmvqn9qxedza7sxx6v3tjkk8xjqr7lf7gns address. So, you didn't send it to the wrong address and the transaction is confirmed. The only thing you have to do now is to figure out which Electrum wallet that address belongs to.

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February 28, 2024, 01:24:33 AM
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The Bitcoin address that corresponds to your wallet screenshot https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m is https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q2j57033ectjhc5aclq9w6qtezyqqpdfr9kqh9k and you have not used that address since
Dec 29.
Can you tell us which service you used to withdraw? Return to the service and search for that address in the white list addresses. Do they contain bc1q2j57033ectjhc5aclq9w6qtezyqqpdfr9kqh9k? If they do not contain, contact the support team to ensure that no third party has accessed the account.

Regarding receiving address, search for bc1q9eyqmvqn9qxedza7sxx6v3tjkk8xjqr7lf7gns in other wallets that you have, if you do not find it, it most likely does not belong to you.

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February 28, 2024, 04:51:01 PM
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The Bitcoin address that corresponds to your wallet screenshot https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m is https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q2j57033ectjhc5aclq9w6qtezyqqpdfr9kqh9k and you have not used that address since Dec 29.
That transaction was on the receiving end of some bitcoin on 29 December 2023 as we can see from the transaction hash OP posted. But the second hash ID doesn't have that address as one of the receivers. OP has successfully managed to confuse everyone here, congrats Bungee55. Grin 

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February 29, 2024, 12:04:20 PM
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The Bitcoin address that corresponds to your wallet screenshot https://ibb.co/k6ZTT9m is https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q2j57033ectjhc5aclq9w6qtezyqqpdfr9kqh9k and you have not used that address since Dec 29.
That transaction was on the receiving end of some bitcoin on 29 December 2023 as we can see from the transaction hash OP posted. But the second hash ID doesn't have that address as one of the receivers. OP has successfully managed to confuse everyone here, congrats Bungee55. Grin 

An unrelated note, but why does the Blockchair link for this address show that there are no transactions? Since this must be OP's address and has received some transactions, the block explorer's transaction history for it shouldn't be blank.

On blockstream, I can see the transaction history normally, with the same address. So maybe Blockchair is down or something.

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February 29, 2024, 05:13:39 PM
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An unrelated note, but why does the Blockchair link for this address show that there are no transactions?
It looks fine on my end. It shows all 12 our of 12 transactions like Mempool.space. Maybe it was a temporary glitch in the matrix or something in your browser that causes the error. Anyways, Mempool.space has become my go-to service when I need to check something on the blockchain. The only thing I find weird that it's not there is a BTC price or a chart.

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February 29, 2024, 10:25:59 PM
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I think I figured it out but just to get to our opinion: my wallet is safe if I see my old balance and am able to recover it using the seed phrase and can send btc from it?
The answer to this question is no. By importing your wallet's seed into trustwallet, which is closed source app BTW, you just expanded the attack surface. So, your wallet hasn't necessarily been comprised but it's not safe as it used to be.
In fact, it has never been safe. According to what you have told us, your phone is full of so many unnecessary apps and you are too careless since you downloaded an app based on the recommendation of a random guy on the internet (someone who gives such kind of advices to others must have a minimum level of knowledge to know that you can't import an Electrum seed into trustwallet).

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