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"They" just don't want us to use LPG & gasoline.
If your country is a country that is not a country that produces gasoline and LPG, then depend on other countries, you would notice that the government will be more interested in reducing the dependence on LPG and gasoline and shifting to electricity that they can generate. You also know that with an increased usage of electrical appliance both now for cooking and in charging of your cars, your electricity tariff increases so that also benefits the government because the more electrical things you have that require electricity, the higher tariff they can generate from your usage.
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The government, at least in my country, has been aggressively promoting the shift from gasoline vehicles to electric vehicles, LPG stoves to electric stoves, and so on. Anything without electricity as the power source is now labeled as "bad." I find it frustrating for two reasons: firstly, it requires more money to buy new items, and secondly, I'm skeptical that the new items will perform as well as my old ones. Electric stoves lack satisfaction, and electric vehicles may struggle with long distances, among other concerns.
Some conspiracy theories suggest that this is a strategy by organizations like the WEF to control us. What are your thoughts? Is there a genuine and urgent need to embrace renewable energy, or is it merely a directive for the masses, giving time for the elite to stockpile valuable resources? I don't think it's about carbon emission though, since the electricity used is from coal generators... "They" just don't want us to use LPG & gasoline.
Electric motors and electric cars are currently more of an environmentally friendly factor that does not cause pollution. not because the petroleum factor is running out. because for now oil production in middle eastern countries or Arab countries is still high and plentiful.
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No commodity is running out any time soon, they will all be available now and in a century or more. The point is to increase efficiency away from burning carbon based fuels, this could have been done a long time ago with nuclear power but not everyone wants to handle that kind of power and responsibilities required with its waste etc.
Theres no real conspiracy to take away power from people, most of us are not able to harvest oil based fuels ourselves. At best our nation as a whole has some oil or gas or coal but overall its rarely about power to the people especially. In future running your own solar or wind power might make a population of people far less dependent on central power companies; nobody can block your access to the sun really and similarly the wind is quite available to all in many areas. Hydro is more controversial but I'd argue in future people will become more free without combustion engines, it will take time and development to improve technology for many years.
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March 02, 2024, 02:53:44 AM |
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The government, at least in my country, has been aggressively promoting the shift from gasoline vehicles to electric vehicles, LPG stoves to electric stoves, and so on. Anything without electricity as the power source is now labeled as "bad." I find it frustrating for two reasons: firstly, it requires more money to buy new items, and secondly, I'm skeptical that the new items will perform as well as my old ones. Electric stoves lack satisfaction, and electric vehicles may struggle with long distances, among other concerns.
Some conspiracy theories suggest that this is a strategy by organizations like the WEF to control us. What are your thoughts? Is there a genuine and urgent need to embrace renewable energy, or is it merely a directive for the masses, giving time for the elite to stockpile valuable resources? I don't think it's about carbon emission though, since the electricity used is from coal generators... "They" just don't want us to use LPG & gasoline.
im on the positive view they probably want their citizen to diversify the use of energy not centralized around one so if one of the energy comes short it won't cause crisis i think thats what they are trying to do but considering the fact that they pushing electricity that hard could probably mean there are conspiracy theory but conspiracy theory is just a theory without sufficiend proof backing it up. if you don't really feel the need to switch over you shouldn't things can change slowly instead of forcing and will just cause you to run out of your money real quick. after all as you said if its for environment sake majority of electricity generated still use coal, unless they deploy nuclear reactor that could produce lesser carbon footprint then we are talking about switching over to EV or something like that. but so far, if the infrastructure insufficient and the stuff with electricity still priced high I don't think its good idea for average people.
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Governments that advocate for the transition to electric vehicles and renewable energy sources are often driven by the objective of reducing carbon emissions and addressing climate change.
whats more important than running out of fossil fuel is the carbon emission that it produced
I think it has more to do with carbon emission, the government of your country wants to rapidly move to renewable source of energy, that is why maybe I feel they've instructed manufacturers to sort of produce some of the equipments that will use more of electricity instead of gasoline.
It might be true if you have nuclear power plants, but the problem is that it's only present in 32 countries ( source). Moreover, it's so regulated that not all of us can have the technology. 3rd worlders which account for most of earth's population still use coal. So using electric-powered items only moves away carbon emissions to these power plants. I was listening to one conference about "How to increase throughput of distillation of crude oil" and one professor made a statement that he is always amaze by how people talk about fossil fuels sometimes, some comments are so funny that he just assume people are too ignorant of what they don't know. He said that anytime people say crude oil is going to deplete and oil well will dry up, then that's a big fat lie. The oil and gas reservoirs are so enormous in large quantities that they are not going down even after his grand children becomes parent, theoretically is not possible.
I think your government are trying to promote free green house effects which is good. We are been warned about the global house warming, it's affecting our health and some are a very big disasters in some communities where crude oil are been drill. However, it's becoming difficult for some countries to readjust and that's because their main source of revenue is crude oil, we need to adapt to new tech for our own good, our own safety and good health.
I'm aware of this kind of opinion. It's similar to the opinion that we just don't find new explorable reservoirs because of the cost and technology. But it's there waiting for us to get it... I don't get how we can be "controlled" by using more electric stuff and even be able to generate our own electricity.
Most people just don't have humongous solar panels installed on their roofs. If "they" disconnect the electricity, you can't do anything if all your tools are powered by electricity. time to what mate? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) electrical products work just as well if not even better than their counterparts Time to enjoy and don't give a f*ck ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yea, try to use a wok for your induction stove...
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I do agree that this has no benefit to any big name to make some conspiracy theories, like lets assume that all those people who are claiming that the world will end, what are they gaining from saying that? I have seen a lot of people say the same thing about Greta Thunberg or whatever that girls name is, we could see that she could be a little brainwashed, someone at that age do not care about climate as much as she normally does, so it is a bit unusual I agree with that.
Let's assume that some adults brainwashed her. The real question is, why? What could you gain from brainwashing a kid to say all those things? What would anyone gain from it? Is this like... solar panel companies are doing it? I highly doubt that, believe me nobody gains anything from this.
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im on the positive view they probably want their citizen to diversify the use of energy not centralized around one so if one of the energy comes short it won't cause crisis i think thats what they are trying to do but considering the fact that they pushing electricity that hard could probably mean there are conspiracy theory but conspiracy theory is just a theory without sufficiend proof backing it up. if you don't really feel the need to switch over you shouldn't things can change slowly instead of forcing and will just cause you to run out of your money real quick. after all as you said if its for environment sake majority of electricity generated still use coal, unless they deploy nuclear reactor that could produce lesser carbon footprint then we are talking about switching over to EV or something like that. but so far, if the infrastructure insufficient and the stuff with electricity still priced high I don't think its good idea for average people.
The conspiracy was that for many centuries we were forced to use only fossil fuel energy, the deposits of which were owned only by certain individuals and made multi-billion dollar fortunes from it. Therefore, they strictly ensured that the inventors of other types of energy and their inventions quickly died and disappeared. Now all of humanity is paying for this with rapid climate change throughout the planet. The temperature has already risen by about one and a half degrees, and this simply leads to catastrophic changes in everything. Scientists predict that soon people will be forced to flee from territories in which it will no longer be possible to live. At the same time, large areas of land will go under water, and the problem of drinking water will worsen. Fires, floods, hurricanes, earthquakes will become commonplace. Only after this will it dawn on some that the current problems with the transition to alternative energy sources were absolutely minor in comparison, which resulted in a reluctance to avoid influencing climate change. But unfortunately, it will be too late...
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in accordance with the increasing use of energy by humans, if we only stick to the use of fossil energy, then of course fossil energy will run out quickly because it is non-renewable energy. moreover, large-scale use in industry, apart from accelerating the exhaustion of fossil energy supplies, will also lead to an increase in carbon dioxide, which will further exacerbate global warming.
so like it or not, we have to be able to switch to renewable energy such as wind, water, solar or geothermal energy, to be able to produce energy that will be used in various sectors. because if we only survive using fossil energy, we will not be able to meet global energy needs.
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I think it is crucial for governments to focus on developing infrastructure for technologies that are based on renewable energy... before fossil fuels run out. The global economy will collapse or it will become VERY expensive, if the supply of fossil fuel runs out.... and if there are no alternative to supplement or replace it. I also think a hybrid system can utilize the best of both worlds... so you can drive on petrol and electricity to increase your driving distances and also to reduce the transport cost and still use fossil fuel and use "clean" energy. (Solar / Wind / Hydro ....etc)
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I think it is crucial for governments to focus on developing infrastructure for technologies that are based on renewable energy... before fossil fuels run out. The global economy will collapse or it will become VERY expensive, if the supply of fossil fuel runs out.... and if there are no alternative to supplement or replace it. I also think a hybrid system can utilize the best of both worlds... so you can drive on petrol and electricity to increase your driving distances and also to reduce the transport cost and still use fossil fuel and use "clean" energy. (Solar / Wind / Hydro ....etc) Money makes the world go 'round, and for many places, old school fossil fuels are still big cash cows. Powerful industries have deep pockets to persuade politicians too and it aint so simple to trade in oil derricks for solar panels or wind farms overnight when there are massive economic interests at stake. Sure, the tech is there for clean energy. But legacy energy has the deep roots. Big oil and coal lobby hard to keep their gravy trains running. Renewables disrupt all that. And change is messy. Maybe with enough public momentum governments can transition without too much pain. But it's gonna take some time. This is about way more than flipping a switch. We're talking money flows. Political interests. Industries with insane influence built up over decades. It's gonna be a battle for sure.
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In my country, the environmental theme is temporarily outside active discussion because the war led to instability of electricity and military equipment can't rely on eco-friendly solutions anyway. But overall, I believe we should strive toward the future of much fewer cars and of way more electric vehicles than other vehicles. As for stoves, electric stoves are also much better for health and safety, and they're easier to clean than gas stoves. I think there IS a genuine and urgent need to change our relationship with nature and focus on renewable sources. Climate change isn't a problem of the future. It's already happening, and it's leading to a lot of human suffering as well as financial losses. It's true that electricity doesn't always come from eco-friendly sources, but many countries actually mainly rely on clean sources of energy, and at least it's possible to move away from the worst sources, such as coal.
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This is all about business so we expect something like competition so for now we are in progress to transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy. Whether or not it is some kind of manipulation in this energy sector we really have no choice because it is what governments wanted us to use whatever reason they may have we are clueless about that. If we insist in using old technology and we are living in the future do we really think it is worth the time and effort we spend? We all know technological advancement is inevitable and things around us will become outdated or obsolete so why don't we adopt newer tech and products? For now we are still in a stage wherein we still have choices but in the future fossil fuels might not be an option for us. I might be wrong but who knows?
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In my country, the environmental theme is temporarily outside active discussion because the war led to instability of electricity and military equipment can't rely on eco-friendly solutions anyway. But overall, I believe we should strive toward the future of much fewer cars and of way more electric vehicles than other vehicles. As for stoves, electric stoves are also much better for health and safety, and they're easier to clean than gas stoves. I think there IS a genuine and urgent need to change our relationship with nature and focus on renewable sources. Climate change isn't a problem of the future. It's already happening, and it's leading to a lot of human suffering as well as financial losses. It's true that electricity doesn't always come from eco-friendly sources, but many countries actually mainly rely on clean sources of energy, and at least it's possible to move away from the worst sources, such as coal.
I also support that we should gradually switch to electric devices such as electric umbrellas and electric gas stoves because that will help us greatly reduce costs. My family is also one of those who have switched to using electric appliances instead of gasoline and gas and I find it helps us save some costs. But to say it is more environmentally friendly, we need more time to evaluate that. Electric cars are bringing convenience as well as significant fuel savings, but to say that they are more environmentally friendly is not entirely accurate. As far as I know, electric car batteries cannot be recycled and they are made from radioactive materials. Therefore, battery destruction is also an environmental pollution problem that has no effective solution.
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March 10, 2024, 03:48:05 PM |
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I think fossil fuels could be depleted and it really is running out as with the discovery of oil as an energy source, we’ve for decades, continuously searched and used up oil deposits for our numerous energy uses. We’re using these resources a lot faster than they could be naturally replicated so it’s very possible it could be totally depleted someday. And as our energy uses continue to grow exponentially, that day could be sooner than originally anticipated.
I think there’s a genuine need to embrace renewable energy. I know change could be difficult to accept but isn’t an energy source that could could be renewed much better than one that could be depleted? People would resist change and would invent several theories in a bid to push back on the change being proposed.
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March 11, 2024, 03:21:10 PM |
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I think it is crucial for governments to focus on developing infrastructure for technologies that are based on renewable energy... before fossil fuels run out. The global economy will collapse or it will become VERY expensive, if the supply of fossil fuel runs out.... and if there are no alternative to supplement or replace it.
I think fossil fuels could be depleted and it really is running out as with the discovery of oil as an energy source, we’ve for decades, continuously searched and used up oil deposits for our numerous energy uses. We’re using these resources a lot faster than they could be naturally replicated so it’s very possible it could be totally depleted someday. And as our energy uses continue to grow exponentially, that day could be sooner than originally anticipated.
The problem is, you don't know if fossil fuels will REALLY run out, let's say, for another 40 years. It's the same as global warming status -- whether it's fact or not, as I've read papers from both sides. I understand that the majority of people accept this fossil fuel scarcity/crisis as a fact, but the majority isn't always right. And when the government makes decisions/rules based on speculation, you can expect the people will unnecessarily suffer.
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March 11, 2024, 03:44:35 PM |
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The bottom line is that both natural gas and oil are non-renewable energy sources that cannot be produced anew. And if we use more and more non-renewable energy at the current rate at which the human population has increased, then our future generations will be in danger very soon. And this is the main reason to encourage people to use renewable energy. It is not a matter of how satisfied we are with the use of renewable energy. I believe that by using renewable energy we can secure the future of our new generations. So I think we should use renewable energy instead of non-renewable energy even if we have time.
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March 11, 2024, 04:13:18 PM |
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If I'm not mistaken there is definitely some race against time that's happening when it comes to the depletion of fossil fuels and the current state of the environment. Cause for all I know we definitely have enough to go around at least for a couple hundred years, but at the same time the planet's on its way to irreversible damages at least in the next 30-50 years or so, and that's primarily what concerns a lot of people the most. The reason as well (although honestly it's not that reasonable) is the cost it's gonna take governments across the planet to switch into renewable energy harnessing is going ot be around the hundred trillions, but that's a one-time big-time change that would in turn change the whole energy economy landscape for the better, since it's been stated that the whole industry will save around a quadrillion dollars (don't quote me on this all of these numbers are based on an article I can half-remember from years ago) through harnessing renewable resources. It's all just a matter of stubbornness from the sectors that are most responsible for this that we're still not seeing some major changes.
I'm guessing we'll just have to wait it out until we either die from the pollution and global warming effects, or the changes facilitate themselves and we see the planet revitalize itself. Can't be bothering ourselves with these issues anymore as it's been in the talks for years now yet the people who are required to do something about it, isn't doing shit.
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March 11, 2024, 08:03:34 PM |
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I think it is crucial for governments to focus on developing infrastructure for technologies that are based on renewable energy... before fossil fuels run out. The global economy will collapse or it will become VERY expensive, if the supply of fossil fuel runs out.... and if there are no alternative to supplement or replace it.
I think fossil fuels could be depleted and it really is running out as with the discovery of oil as an energy source, we’ve for decades, continuously searched and used up oil deposits for our numerous energy uses. We’re using these resources a lot faster than they could be naturally replicated so it’s very possible it could be totally depleted someday. And as our energy uses continue to grow exponentially, that day could be sooner than originally anticipated.
The problem is, you don't know if fossil fuels will REALLY run out, let's say, for another 40 years. It's the same as global warming status -- whether it's fact or not, as I've read papers from both sides. I understand that the majority of people accept this fossil fuel scarcity/crisis as a fact, but the majority isn't always right. And when the government makes decisions/rules based on speculation, you can expect the people will unnecessarily suffer. Regardless of whether oil, gas and coal disappear in the coming decades, humanity in any case should urgently switch to other types of fuel, and use fossil fuels in other areas of human activity. What other evidence of their negative impact on the environment needs to be given if over the last century the temperature on our planet has already risen by three degrees, and this winter was the warmest in the entire history of observations. It will soon reach the point where people will move en masse from certain regions due to the impossibility of living there. This should have been done at least a century ago, and now it’s too late to correct the situation. But for now there are still chances, albeit small.
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March 11, 2024, 09:47:02 PM |
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I think what the officials say is true as it is, if you use too much fossil fuel, it will eventually run out. It is true that fossil fuels can be recovered from new fossils but it requires a process, so as long as we can save it is better to save it, it will be dangerous if really happened
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March 12, 2024, 05:39:09 AM |
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If we continue at our current rate it is estimated that we will run out of fossil fuels. If all the fossil fuels on Earth were to run out or it was impossible to extract the fossil fuels it is estimated that the oil reserves would run out. Realistically we can never run out of oil because given the depth of the Earth's core new wells will be discovered. That said it is very likely that such deep mining practices will become economically unviable.
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