[INFO] PCGS now grading Kialara and 1Hodlclub bars

[minerjones]

A moment many collectors have been waiting for and now, today is the day!!

PCGS is now grading most physical crypto bars/ingots

PCGS YES
-1Hodlclub bars (1oz ingot, 5oz ingot, Moonphases bars)
-Alpencoin bars
-Caribbean Treasures copper bars
-Casascius bars
-Kialara (both large and small form factors)
-Microsoul bars


PCGS NO
-1Hodlclub F*ck Fiat 1/2oz silver/gilt coins
-Casascius Bitcoin Bowl coins
-Finite By Design bars (BTC, ETH, DASH)

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[Steeley]

Thanks for this news MJ. Can you share a pic of the Kialara with a recognizable item (like a quarter or another slabbed coin) in order to give perspective of its size? It must be pretty big.

[minerjones]

Thanks for this news MJ. Can you share a pic of the Kialara with a recognizable item (like a quarter or another slabbed coin) in order to give perspective of its size? It must be pretty big.

Indeed, quite large compared to a standard sized slab

The only one I do not have on hand to show off is one of the Casascius bars, because they all got sent to Stacks..

For reference is a 1 btc Casascius brass

And I am a little miffed at the Microsoul inner holder (and the Alpen bar too), as they can move side to side with a good shake

I like the solid inner holder seen for the Kialara and 1Holdclub bar and also a few of the early Cas bars that were graded came that way

They also graded the smaller 1oz 1Hodlclub ingots..... wonder if they would grade the larger 5oz ingots or the 65g Moon Passes?

[ChiBitCTy]

Any idea about the older Kialara bars?  I hate NGC as a company (though not fond of PCGS customer service of late either as a PCGS rep told me just a week or so ago they don’t grade “fantasy coins”. Replied w proof they do, even with a link to their site and got no reply back. Some unprofessional bs) but their holders are way nicer for coins with the brackets holding them in place. Better slabs too imo.

As for bars, not sure which I prefer between the two..but thrilled PCGS is doing this nonetheless. Knew it was inevitable..

[henkcryptotank]

Wen Squirrelbits!

Grts Tank

[ChiBitCTy]

Wen Squirrelbits!

Grts Tank

Will he “allow this” ? That might break his no info to be posted as they are to remain “mysterious” rule  

[minerjones]

Confirming that PCGS will now grade the 65g silver/gilt 1Hodlclub Moon Passes

[cygan]

that's really good news and would make me interested for my Kialara bars.
what are the prices for grading a bar in this case?

[minerjones]

that's really good news and would make me interested for my Kialara bars.
what are the prices for grading a bar in this case?

Currently here are the PGCS fees:

$40 Regular service. Has been taking about 4-5 months currently
$70 Express service. Has been taking about 1-1.5 months currently
$150 WalkThrough service. Usually takes about 1 bussiness week.

There are other tiers of service, but I have not used them
Banknotes/Polymerbits,etc have a separate grading form and fees.
The average to grade a note even with a lower tier level is about $40-$50, but does not take as long as the coin/bar grading. I have had good experience where most are returned within a 2-3 month period without any expedited service fee.

Looking at the fee chart, we may need to move to the "Rarities" tier pretty soon

Hope this helps you make an informed decision on what items to grade.



PCGS charges a $10 handling fee and then a return shipping fee based on the amount of items and their value. Can range from $23 to $100 or more.
Also, there would be a shipping to PCGS fee from the person who submits them, unless dropped off at a coin show where PCGS has a table/booth
And they do not allow walk in service at their facility out in California

[slimzak]

Prices are pretty steep. I wonder if one could use the economy service for crypto coins

[minerjones]

Prices are pretty steep. I wonder if one could use the economy service for crypto coins

I would think yes, but have not used that level of service. I imagine the turn around time to be quite long....
And there are not too many coins left that fall under $300 evaluation... even unloaded coins are fetching above this on Stacks

[2stout]

Prices are pretty steep. I wonder if one could use the economy service for crypto coins

I would think yes, but have not used that level of service. I imagine the turn around time to be quite long....
And there are not too many coins left that fall under $300 evaluation... even unloaded coins are fetching above this on Stacks

For unloaded and low loads, might be able to use econonmy if the coins haven't been sold at an auction before, ex Stack's Bowers.  Once sold at an auction, typically it's linked to the PCGS# in the pop report and the selling price(s) can be seen.

[minerjones]

I have updated the list in the OP.
Have added a few more that PCGS does now grade and also added a list of items that they will not currently grade.
Weird that they will not grade a Cas Bowl coin being that it is just a token... but maybe they will only grade physical cryptos if they have a hologram

[2stout]

One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity.  Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it.  My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message.  I have no regrets!

[Cryptogreatdane]

One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity.  Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it.  My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message.  I have no regrets!

   seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.

[2stout]

One thing I would like to add is that PCGS won't grade or slab if the item contains profanity.  Just don't want anyone wasting their time unless they want to chance it.  My MYBITS Pennywise bits had this happen because of the word shit followed by coins, though still an excellent, great coin with a prominent, relevant message.  I have no regrets!

   seems kind of silly that profanity is the cutoff. I guess that rules out Squirrel bits being graded by them.

Maybe a lot of them but there are also some SquirrelBits without profanity.  Perhaps this will change with PCGS but I wouldn't hold my breath as this apparently is a longstanding thing with them, even though I believe you would almost have to go down the rabbit hole to explicitly find where this is published.

[minerjones]

Finally back in hand this morning...

The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O

They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.

Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison

2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs

[frankbitcoin]

That HODL Club "The Times" bar is nuts! I've never seen that before! 

[Eclipse33]

Finally back in hand this morning...

The new slabs for the larger Kialara and 1Holdclub 5oz are HUUUUUGGGEEE :O

They will also slab the CaribbeanTreasures copper bars.

Regular sized slab with MyBits Lion in the middle shown for comparison

2nd picture shows a better size comparison of all the slabs

Freaking awsome, makes me want to buy a hodlclub times now just for this...