Question about futures

[JayTrain]

My take on this is as follows: investing in BTC futures with 3x 5x 10x leverage entails a high level of risk due to the possibility of liquidation. At the same time, holding BTC in a wallet is a safer option, albeit less profitable. Considering the upward trend in Bitcoin's dynamics, it's probably better to wait before making a final decision. The decision depends on your comfort level with risk and investment goals.

[kentrolla]

I have learnt it in hard way and even the most tenured traders would say don't leverage anything more than 2x especially during these times because it would be too risky I used to do 5x to 10x for Bitcoin earlier as we don't often see much fluctuations like a drop of 10% or 20% in a day for Bitcoin and I used 5x as well as 10x leverage based of this theory but I lost it all when there was a sudden dump and then started understand more about futures and how experienced traders play around and they don't exceed 2X leverage. Stick to 2x and anything above this would be risky. This is my side of strategy not necessary that everyone would align on this.

[johnsaributua]

If you have not tried to own bitcoin at all for 2 years, there is nothing wrong with you buying by means of dca, bitcoin which in my opinion is suitable in all weather means that you can buy without hesitation disappointed in its hystory.

Talking about leverage you say that you have fun in trading instruments? there is nothing wrong with that, but your chances of losing because of analysis greetings are also potentially of a magnitude that may be greater, leverage is like you borrow capital so that you get more profit when your analysis is correct, this is just an alternative. We know that cex happens a lot with all the possibilities, although there are still those who still survive until now.

You put 100 euros in bitcoin? it depends on your bias, if you want to adopt long-term bitcoin is certainly very possible, but if you want to get a good return from the bear market you can do regular dca, you can convert from capital compared to the current bitcoin price, you can calculate your portfolio.

[|MINER|]

There is a fair amount of risk involved.  The higher the leverage, the higher the risk.  Trading is a difficult task and it is also very risky.  One should not engage in trading without knowing well about trading.  And if you are science then you should think thousand times before investing.  E-trade after knowing.  Achieving success in trading requires a long-term effort.  What you are going to do is high risk and you can lose all your money anytime. So do it carefully.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

3x, 5x, 10x whatever you call futures trading I think is very risky. Because if you have no experience in the market then you can lose your money in any way at any moment. In this case I can advise you to make your 100 euro bitcoins and keep it in your wallet if you keep your 100 euro in your wallet then I think you can get good returns from here and also if you go to futures trading you will definitely lose it is 100% sure. Because so far I haven't met a person who hasn't lost from futures trading.

[poodle63]

My take on this is as follows: investing in BTC futures with 3x 5x 10x leverage entails a high level of risk due to the possibility of liquidation. At the same time, holding BTC in a wallet is a safer option, albeit less profitable. Considering the upward trend in Bitcoin's dynamics, it's probably better to wait before making a final decision. The decision depends on your comfort level with risk and investment goals.

nah waiting too much in this case will miss the opportunity of having good increase, but the thing is, bitcoin already rising high, at some point it will have correction or at least i believe so, i reckon the increase will not just smooth sailing in the future, therefore having position of future with high leverage might be risky but lets be honest, back before bitcoin pumping some weeks ago if not month, its also seemed risky to do future with high leverage but see those people that just go on entrying at previous floor, they are having good profit right now.
one thing need to know for OP, future with high leverage means you are more vulnerable towards price swing, if youre not so sure, how about sit back and decrease that leverage rate, at least to 2x maybe, so that price swing won't cause you harm or at least the insignificant ones, decrease that leverage and then you're good to go.

if i were you though i would just trade spot, buy bitcoin as much as I can, we all know its calm before the storm and this storm that im talking about is the massive bullrun thats about to come.
maybe spot trading will be better for you.

[adaseb]

Right now for a new trader, its crazy to trade futures. Even if its low leverage. Reason being is that the funding rate is crazy high.

At the moment its almost 100% APR for annual. But everyday its 0.25%. So if someone goes 10x long and holds the position for 4 days. They are pretty much out 10% of their maintaince margin. Because its 1% for 4 days in funding and at 10x leverage its 10 times as high. Its a receipt for disaster. Not recommended at all. Stay with spot.

This is why I am not going to be surprised if we get some liquidation event soon because there is too much leverage in the crypto markets.

[boty]

There is a fair amount of risk involved.  The higher the leverage, the higher the risk.  Trading is a difficult task and it is also very risky.  One should not engage in trading without knowing well about trading.  And if you are science then you should think thousand times before investing.  E-trade after knowing.  Achieving success in trading requires a long-term effort.  What you are going to do is high risk and you can lose all your money anytime. So do it carefully.

Doing trading without having knowledge about this is of course very risky, even those who have a lot of experience in trading are still at risk of experiencing losses on the trades they make, especially those who don't have the slightest experience or knowledge about trading, of course they should avoid doing so. trading, you are right, we could lose the money we have if we don't carry out the trades we make carefully.

[Sun2k]

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

[Oshosondy]

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

It is simple.

Bitcoin price at $60000 and you open 3x long position.

$60000 ÷ 3 = $20000

$60000 - $20000 = $40000 which is the liquidation price.

There would be a slight difference on the exchange and that is how exchanges are. You can see the liquidation price slightly closer but of very little difference from your calculation. On some exchanges, the liquidation price may be slightly be farther because the exchange keep some money for you instead of using all to open a position.

[Dunamisx]

I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Future trading is full of nothing than risk, this does not only ends there, but we are on the chance of loosing the entire investment if liquidated, i don't think we should go for such as we cannot afford to miss the fund we have earned to use for trading, even though we are having other alternatives, taking risk on what can completely take away our fund is part of what some people have used against trading by the way they termed it the same as gambling.

[lalabotax]

I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Waa, this is risky enough, for me, I am not taking this high risk. But not really sure with the OP.

In fact, if the OP wants to utilize or optimize his €100, why should he choose to do it in Future trading? Isn't it true that with this, the risk of losing it could be higher? Indeed, maybe you will also get high profits, but if you don't understand the tactics, this will actually endanger your money.

So, wouldn't it be better if you wanted to save that €100, it would be better if you bought Bitcoin and held the BTC until at least the next bullish era? Is not it?

[Sun2k]

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

It is simple.

Bitcoin price at $60000 and you open 3x long position.

$60000 ÷ 3 = $20000

$60000 - $20000 = $40000 which is the liquidation price.

There would be a slight difference on the exchange and that is how exchanges are. You can see the liquidation price slightly closer but of very little difference from your calculation. On some exchanges, the liquidation price may be slightly be farther because the exchange keep some money for you instead of using all to open a position.

Ok thank you very much

[tvplus006]

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

It is simple.

Bitcoin price at $60000 and you open 3x long position.

$60000 ÷ 3 = $20000

$60000 - $20000 = $40000 which is the liquidation price.

There would be a slight difference on the exchange and that is how exchanges are. You can see the liquidation price slightly closer but of very little difference from your calculation. On some exchanges, the liquidation price may be slightly be farther because the exchange keep some money for you instead of using all to open a position.

Ok thank you very much

I think that Oshosondy gave the wrong calculation and, accordingly, may mislead you. Look at how the support of the Binance exchange explains such a question to "How to Calculate Margin Liquidation Price", as an example, x3 leverage is used there, exactly what you are interested in - https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-calculate-margin-liquidation-price-f6b010588e55413aa58b7d63ee0125ed

[Oshosondy]

I think that Oshosondy gave the wrong calculation and, accordingly, may mislead you. Look at how the support of the Binance exchange explains such a question to "How to Calculate Margin Liquidation Price", as an example, x3 leverage is used there, exactly what you are interested in - https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-calculate-margin-liquidation-price-f6b010588e55413aa58b7d63ee0125ed

I am wrong? Okay let us assume that I am wrong. If bitcoin is at $60000 and you go 3x leverage to open a long position, what price would be the liquidation price? You can not say that I am wrong if you do not give the answer. Give the answer in bitcoin price with prove and not just refer to any article.

[BD Technical]

Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

Already bitcoin is over 65 thousand 64 thousand dollars and a hundred doesn't matter other than that I think currently because 15 thousand dollars in 2022.  Sixteen thousand dollars came to that.  Currently saying four times the probability you are saying three sisters is four times if maybe three hours doesn't matter then it could be 100k dollars.  But we all have to be aware that you are training those who are investing on bitcoin, you must not go to make much profit here because the market can go down at any time and it can go up at any time, no one can tell where the market will go. Your digital currency is the stock market.  You must depend on the fact that no one can tell when the stock market will go where.  But I can say from my personal experience that Bitcoin will come at a time when a hundred thousand dollars won't seem like anything to it when it can become 100k dollars.

[Litzki1990]

Bitcoin futures trading is much safer than other coins so if you want to invest with a lot of leverage then this investment may be right for you and you can move forward. If you invest at 3x leverage right now, even if the market is dumping, you will not liquidate because the market will have to go down a lot for your liquidation, but the chances of this happening are low. Relatively more risk must be taken to make higher profits. You can definitely invest in this plan if you can take the risk of your money and you can maintain your investment by fixing a specific target.

[GreatArkansas]

If bitcoin is at $60000 and you long it with 3x, the liquidation would be around $40000. If you can take the risk, you can go for it.

Hi, what calculation did you do to find the liquidation price please?

It is simple.

Bitcoin price at $60000 and you open 3x long position.

$60000 ÷ 3 = $20000

$60000 - $20000 = $40000 which is the liquidation price.

There would be a slight difference on the exchange and that is how exchanges are. You can see the liquidation price slightly closer but of very little difference from your calculation. On some exchanges, the liquidation price may be slightly be farther because the exchange keep some money for you instead of using all to open a position.

OP can open a trade and can have a stop loss before the liquidation price if they want to have less risk and have lesser loss just in case Bitcoin goes down that deeply.

Another thing is it depends on the trader's risk tolerance and way of trading because for example the risk-reward ratio and how much profit that OP wants.

[Sebas.tian]

Bitcoin futures trading is much safer than other coins so if you want to invest with a lot of leverage then this investment may be right for you and you can move forward. If you invest at 3x leverage right now, even if the market is dumping, you will not liquidate because the market will have to go down a lot for your liquidation, but the chances of this happening are low. Relatively more risk must be taken to make higher profits. You can definitely invest in this plan if you can take the risk of your money and you can maintain your investment by fixing a specific target.

Many investors that took such risk in the past later discovered that they made a good decision, which you can take that risk now to invest in Bitcoin and you will enjoy the Bitcoin safer in your investment that will give you more courage to invest whenever the bearish season appear in the market. The most important in your risk, is to ensure you invest your money in the most top cryptocurrencies in the market and it will give you a huge amount of income that will increase your wealth in the future. I know is not easy to take a heavy risk like this, but there is a gain to every risk you are taking in the time of bearish season to invest and you will receive a good results at the end of your investment.

[Sorryfor]

If you are a newbie then I think trading will be too risky for you. As a beginner you should acquire a lot of knowledge about the trade. Because trading is very risky as a result of which you can suffer a lot financially. So first get proper knowledge about the trade and keep learning. The cryptocurrency market is very diverse. So don't trade on emotion alone.  As a result, you may be very disappointed.  On the other hand, you can invest as much money as you can afford in Bitcoin And if you can hold it then it will be seen that you can earn a good amount of profit at one time. So it is better and wiser not to lean towards your trading in the beginning.