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March 08, 2024, 02:53:44 PM
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if you put your money in futures, it's not an investment, but it's trading, because even if you put the lowest possible leverage, there will still be the potential for a margin call. so it depends on you now, whether you are ready to risk €100 into the futures market, if you are ready then go ahead and put your money in futures trading. however, if you are not ready to lose that money, you can invest your money in the spot market, because whatever the price of bitcoin, as long as you don't sell it, you won't make a loss.

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March 12, 2024, 06:09:08 PM
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if you put your money in futures, it's not an investment, but it's trading, because even if you put the lowest possible leverage, there will still be the potential for a margin call. so it depends on you now, whether you are ready to risk €100 into the futures market, if you are ready then go ahead and put your money in futures trading. however, if you are not ready to lose that money, you can invest your money in the spot market, because whatever the price of bitcoin, as long as you don't sell it, you won't make a loss.
I know that if you invest such money in BTC and look for solid wallet like electrum to stock the BTC for long period of time, you will have every reason to take such decision another time which you can see by yourself what is happening in this bull market that is changing traders story with the huge amount of money they are making from their trading.

If you make spot market where you can stock the money as your choice, nobody will force you against your wish because, if you lost or gain , you Will not going to share the lost or gain with anybody but make your choice wisely with that amount of money.

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March 12, 2024, 06:32:38 PM
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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?
It depends on the skills you have and if you have good trading skills then there are times when trying your luck at small profits is the right choice and you can repeat several times to make a profit. There is a risk in what you do, but you must also have a way to minimize this risk to a smaller one.

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?
That means you will make an investment and the concept is more about holding for the long term and if this is the choice then you also have to have a way to continue to increase the amount of asset ownership. Because if you just wait for the amount you mean then the investment will not be optimal. The decisions you take must have long-term prospects and there are several ways you can reliably do so that assets can continue to increase slowly.
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March 20, 2024, 08:38:14 AM
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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

I would be very careful when it comes to futures investing at the moment. The Bitcoin price just recently reached a new ATH and the volatility is quite high in the market. With a 3x leverage the risk of getting knocked out is quite, especially if your investment is only 100 USD. Do you have enough capital behind to cover losses and not be forced to liquidate? In case this is your only capital I would recommend you stick to the spot market. With a direct bitcoin investment you don't have to worry about get liquidated when prices are falling. You can just hold your coins long term and wait for prices to recover again. The only issue is that transaction cost are quite high at the moment, which makes small size trading not so profitable.
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March 20, 2024, 09:08:38 AM
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I would be very careful when it comes to futures investing at the moment. The Bitcoin price just recently reached a new ATH and the volatility is quite high in the market. With a 3x leverage the risk of getting knocked out is quite, especially if your investment is only 100 USD. Do you have enough capital behind to cover losses and not be forced to liquidate? In case this is your only capital I would recommend you stick to the spot market. With a direct bitcoin investment you don't have to worry about get liquidated when prices are falling. You can just hold your coins long term and wait for prices to recover again. The only issue is that transaction cost are quite high at the moment, which makes small size trading not so profitable.

Small leverage will earn small profitable but bit secure from liquidation, so far some time when trade on future I used under x10 leverage with capital not too huge around $300 to $500. Have to be careful when trading in the future behind not greedy use large until maximum leverage we need have back up fund and not use all for future margin.
Always spending around $100 to $200 for recovery fund to make liquidation keep far away and not easily get warning liquidation margin call when wrong prediction.
Need to prepare mentality when trading in future, weakness mentality is not good way in future trading with risk potential loss the capital and better trade on spot trading only although price drop drastically the capital keep existing with lower or decreasing values waiting for price recover back.

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March 20, 2024, 04:40:00 PM
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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

If you put that $100  in futures, that means you know something about cryptocurrency trading. Is the question right in my mind that you know anything about futures trading OP? Because if your answer is yes, then go and put your $100 in futures.

But if you don't know anything about crypto trading and you want to enter futures trading, I suggest that it's better not to put your $100 in futures; instead, buy Bitcoin and then hold it in a spot, electrum, or hardware wallet, depending on your choice.



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May 11, 2024, 09:09:36 PM
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You can invest as much as you can and it will be more profitable for you because bitcoin is going higher beyond what we can even imagine, I’m seeing bitcoin hitting 200k, I don’t know the exact time but I know it won’t be more than 2 years plus, let focus on the future of bitcoin



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May 14, 2024, 09:25:44 PM
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You can invest as much as you can and it will be more profitable for you because bitcoin is going higher beyond what we can even imagine, I’m seeing bitcoin hitting 200k, I don’t know the exact time but I know it won’t be more than 2 years plus, let focus on the future of bitcoin

What ?

Like really have you scanned the post before making a reply on it, or just made a random reply, to fill the post quota, weird bro like Really you are not a newbie, SR is a well-reputed rank, you should think and read before making a post, its not a speculation thread, OP is really curious about his question and you are giving him a wrong direction but why?

Are you a financial advisor how can you be so sure about it, what if your wrong suggestion can put OP in a big mess, always be careful while guiding others because you always need to explain to everyone your own perspective and an honest suggestion with a DYOR disclaimer. He's asking about futures trading an you are speculating future of Bitcoin nd on the same time advising him something based on just twitter news and influencer's blind spot predictions. Make sure to be careful while giving suggestion next time.

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if you put your money in futures, it's not an investment, but it's trading, because even if you put the lowest possible leverage, there will still be the potential for a margin call. so it depends on you now, whether you are ready to risk €100 into the futures market, if you are ready then go ahead and put your money in futures trading. however, if you are not ready to lose that money, you can invest your money in the spot market, because whatever the price of bitcoin, as long as you don't sell it, you won't make a loss.

Yes, bro, it's better to take the safe path than to take the high-risk path, investment for the future is very necessary so that in the future we don't get confused about our economy, like now with very high inflation making people scream about what they are saying. has happened now, then we have to take the path to invest for the future, that way we will be easier and more organized in the future, we can also take long-term investment in bitcoin, because we can minimize losses and profits, we sell at the price high and buy at low prices within a certain period and time range.

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if you put your money in futures, it's not an investment, but it's trading, because even if you put the lowest possible leverage, there will still be the potential for a margin call. so it depends on you now, whether you are ready to risk €100 into the futures market, if you are ready then go ahead and put your money in futures trading. however, if you are not ready to lose that money, you can invest your money in the spot market, because whatever the price of bitcoin, as long as you don't sell it, you won't make a loss.
well to be honest if we try future and just decide to use lowest leverage ever then I guess we better off settle with spot trading instead.
its too much risk for a rather small profit to use future with lower leverage even though many people condone the use of just 1x leverage and thats it for the sake of safety but in my opinion we just better off using spot trading.
if its 3x like OP have mentioned it does still make sense, but know that with future trading once money is gone its gone, we're trying to stake our money on the margin, but it does have high return profile at the end of the day that many people are looking for.
its better if we can just adjust the capital at stake then increase leverage, even though arguably its the same profit using 3x leverage, but our money won't get drained in one go.
just to know the hang of using future trading with high leverage.

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May 15, 2024, 10:33:57 AM
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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?
No time is bad to trade your futures and margin markets, it all depends on you, especially on your preparedness in areas like speculation and management. Trading is always active whether we like it or not, but if it is a long-term buying and holding you are looking for, well, based on my experience, this is not the right time. The right time was the time the market was still very low. Those are the times the market was trying to change its trend, which was around late 2002 and early 2023.

If you had planned your trade well then and opened the trade, then it would have been good for you as you would have made money conveniently and might still be holding your buy position. What I do in such a situation is to look for the right support and resistance level to locate my stop loss while I buy the market. That stop loss will be very tight should in case my speculation is wrong. This is often done on either the 4H chart or on the 1D chart and it has been very productive.

Besides, you should use the risk-taking rather than the leverage, the leverage calculation often confuses as with 3x leverage, you can choose many risks unless you are referring to the maximum risk permissible by it, try to be specific next time. In all, if you use the leverage at the full stretch, then you might still get liquidated soon enough as €100 is little to plan such a trade with Bitcoin.

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Personally, its not bad ideas when holding bitcoin in future trading with small leverage around x3 but you need to see how much funding fees have to pay because make long term investment of bitcoin. Actually one side is more profitable because has potential reach up to x3 when bitcoin price increasing than holding with spot only but each market of future trading get bigger fees funding fees cut off every eight hours. I used Binance only for future trading and I think get bigger funding fees have to pay, if you have other exchange market with lower fees its worth for long term holding bitcoin in future market by using leverage x3.
But keep prepare with margin funding how to protect with bad thing when bitcoin price suddenly decreasing, I got some future trader with leverage x3 liquidation by holding Pepe coins.

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I am sure that you want to open a Bitcoin futures position with 3x leverage to be able to get more profit if the Bitcoin price is above your position. That's actually not a bad idea, but only if your capital is quite a lot, if it's only a little like that I think that it's not a good idea to put your money in futures with 3x leverage, because when the price of Bitcoin drops your capital will run out faster. So I suggest that you should buy Bitcoin with this money and save it in your wallet. It's true that the profit you get is smaller, but at least the risk is much lower than if you put it in futures.

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Future trading is one of the most risky trading features, there is a lot of money risk here, but if future trading is done in Bitcoin and leverage is relatively low, then it is possible to expect profit from here. Bitcoin market is not very excited and Bitcoin market fluctuates naturally, we who invest in Bitcoin can increase the amount of risk from investment by 3x leverage or less but do futures trading. However, this should not be taken for granted if the investor feels that he can take this risk, then he can trade bitcoin futures. We do not advise this because futures trading involves a lot of financial risk and not everyone can take this risk.

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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!

€100 for now is pretty good. I think it's better to just trade the spot or invest everything without trading and wait for the value of your asset to rise and then you sell it again. If you play Futures Now, chances are that you lose a lot because the situation is very easy to change.

I think your last point is the best to do and the results will be maximum if you can last up to 3 months if you can't afford 1 year.

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€100 for now is pretty good. I think it's better to just trade the spot or invest everything without trading and wait for the value of your asset to rise and then you sell it again. If you play Futures Now, chances are that you lose a lot because the situation is very easy to change.

I think your last point is the best to do and the results will be maximum if you can last up to 3 months if you can't afford 1 year.
If he assumes to be a trader, he can invest into those newly listed coins while liquidity is still quite high. He can check them out and see what will happen in a week.
He has to make sure that he gets to profit 5%-10% and get out of once he's done and repeat the process. Sounds easy but it's not actually is.


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Hey guys!
I have a question... do you think it's a good idea to invest BTC in futures now? With 3x leverage so as not to run as much liquidation risk?

Or do you think it's better to put my €100 in a wallet and wait?

Thank you for the help!
Since we have the higher percentage chance for the to move upwards because of the increasing demand,  sure you will earn more money longing with 3x leverage and your risk level is low with 3x leverage on Bitcoin with €100 , but to me the best way to go about this, is trading Bitcoin to get more BTC , this way your are holding Bitcoin and profit will be in BTC, that is you not just only gain from your €100 worth of Bitcoin and have it increased but also your profit increases as the value of BTC increase.

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€100 for now is pretty good. I think it's better to just trade the spot or invest everything without trading and wait for the value of your asset to rise and then you sell it again. If you play Futures Now, chances are that you lose a lot because the situation is very easy to change.

I think your last point is the best to do and the results will be maximum if you can last up to 3 months if you can't afford 1 year.
If he assumes to be a trader, he can invest into those newly listed coins while liquidity is still quite high. He can check them out and see what will happen in a week.
He has to make sure that he gets to profit 5%-10% and get out of once he's done and repeat the process. Sounds easy but it's not actually is.

There's more than meets the eyes when it comes to trading, especially with futures. I understand a lot of newcomers want to jump in with futures for the hope of multiple profits, but if you are not well-versed on what you are doing, you can easily get liquidated. Better start with spot trading and see if trading is really for you. Spot trading alone is already tedious as you need to observe and study the market you are going into. It is not a rocket science, but diligence is needed in this market. You can't face the battle without any knowledge here.

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€100 for now is pretty good. I think it's better to just trade the spot or invest everything without trading and wait for the value of your asset to rise and then you sell it again. If you play Futures Now, chances are that you lose a lot because the situation is very easy to change.

I think your last point is the best to do and the results will be maximum if you can last up to 3 months if you can't afford 1 year.
If he assumes to be a trader, he can invest into those newly listed coins while liquidity is still quite high. He can check them out and see what will happen in a week.
He has to make sure that he gets to profit 5%-10% and get out of once he's done and repeat the process. Sounds easy but it's not actually is.

There's more than meets the eyes when it comes to trading, especially with futures. I understand a lot of newcomers want to jump in with futures for the hope of multiple profits, but if you are not well-versed on what you are doing, you can easily get liquidated. Better start with spot trading and see if trading is really for you. Spot trading alone is already tedious as you need to observe and study the market you are going into. It is not a rocket science, but diligence is needed in this market. You can't face the battle without any knowledge here.
Those that are thinking that they can make a lot of money with futures, no one is going to stop them.
But they need to be reminded that only experienced traders are the ones that earns from it. Compared to the typical setup of investors turned to a trader, they only sell when they're in profit and in spot, it's easier than with leverage.


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May 16, 2024, 01:26:44 PM
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Since we have the higher percentage chance for the to move upwards because of the increasing demand,  sure you will earn more money longing with 3x leverage and your risk level is low with 3x leverage on Bitcoin with €100 , but to me the best way to go about this, is trading Bitcoin to get more BTC , this way your are holding Bitcoin and profit will be in BTC, that is you not just only gain from your €100 worth of Bitcoin and have it increased but also your profit increases as the value of BTC increase.

If OP has time and active with the market can go to the futures with just low leverage but again there's a fee on it in too much holding your position of course, but if OP doesn't have any time to watch all day the market like we are seeing right now the market is going into a bull run movement he can make a hold until the next all-time high. Futures still take a basic understanding and knowledge to make a trade with the help of technical indicators and technical analysis as a guide for your position. Always use the basic TP/SL as your security to yourself to prevent burn your asset.

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