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February 29, 2024, 10:20:07 PM
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I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Because gambling is not a vocation, nor is it something that can be honed through skill and practice (for the most part at the very least). If anything gambling is a form of vice and since gambling is done with full-on attention and sometimes in isolation, people automatically think of gamblers as good-for-nothing shut-ins with no life of their own, no job to show for it, and no future to look forward to. Is it wrong? Yes, can we really do something about the perception? I don't think so.

I'm not saying we should give up changing the narrative and actually painting gambling as a little less weird and niche hobby for people, what I am saying is that perhaps instead of looking outwards and preaching about changing the narrative for the better, we get our asses up and running and actually do something that would further the cause. It's quite easy to preach, it's harder to live up to what you're trying to preach about. But it surely pays as people's perception and idea about gambling's directly correlated to how they see their parents, friends, and other loved ones succumb to gambling addiction. If everyone's more grounded when they play and do not make stupid decisions when they do so, then perhaps we would see a massive mood shift towards gambling. But again, it's not gonna start from whining about the fact that people see gamblers as slobbering incels.

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February 29, 2024, 10:24:47 PM
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Religiously speaking, gambling is prohibited in every kind of religion that is followed by majority.

Let's talk about the perception, yes people consider who regularly gambles are irresponsible and jobless but do they ever really had thought about how they can afford to gamble if they are not making any money from it? I am not talking about the ones who gamble with others' money like from their parent's salary and those who do that really deserve that kind of criticism and they should not be allowed to continue with such behaviour because they know the importance of money only when they are making it and they will be responsible when it comes to their hard-earned money.

So it all depends on the individuals not simply the gambling itself.
Those who gamble with their own spare money, and do not rely on others or loan money to gamble will always be at the later risk of being irresponsible gamblers, and among other thing is that gambling if done in the right sense and following the right formula cant be taken to be an irresponsible act but many people still believe in that wrong assumption about gambling, because from the many outcome of gambling, it has been on a more negative public outlook and that is the reason why many non-gamblers always take gambling to be against the ethics.


But for experienced gamblers like myself and others like you who have taken the time to check the many ups and downs and if we properly manage ourselves we can be able to stay above the many negative waters in gambling

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February 29, 2024, 10:26:54 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is generally unrestricted, but some individuals may choose to impose limitations based on their circumstances. For instance, if you wish to maintain a certain image and avoid any negative associations with gambling, or if you are adhering to the tenets of a particular religion, you may choose to refrain from gambling.

It all depends on the individual whether they choose to impose restrictions on themselves or not. There are no restrictions on any particular group or class, as it ultimately comes down to personal choice and whether one decides to take a risk or not.


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February 29, 2024, 10:34:07 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.

other people look down on people who gamble because of the initial reactions of gamblers, that's why normal people look down on them because of the actions they show or the results of their gambling especially that is when your money is so depleted that you end up addicted to it. Gambling is not forbidden to everyone, actually it is open to everyone as long as you have money and can play it. There are only a few people who are prohibited from gambling, it depends on their religion but we will not discuss that further because it is too broad and there is an open topic about the gambling-religion relationship.



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February 29, 2024, 10:37:40 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is generally unrestricted, but some individuals may choose to impose limitations based on their circumstances. For instance, if you wish to maintain a certain image and avoid any negative associations with gambling, or if you are adhering to the tenets of a particular religion, you may choose to refrain from gambling.

It all depends on the individual whether they choose to impose restrictions on themselves or not. There are no restrictions on any particular group or class, as it ultimately comes down to personal choice and whether one decides to take a risk or not.
the thing that will make some people not to impose a restriction in gambling is when they are addicted in gambling you can only remember that you may have a limitation in gambling when you are not a committed gambler, I committed gambler is kind of gambler that does not think of restriction think of limitation before they kick of in gambling, so in my own understanding in gambling you have to know yourself and have a safe control in any gambling you venture into, I believe that gambling have to do with precautions and you have to remove a curiosity if you want to win in gambling.

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February 29, 2024, 10:44:10 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
If you are above 18, then in most countries you are at the age that you can now make decisions for yourself, if you think gambling is good for you and you enjoy gambling, then go ahead. If your religion prohibits gambling, it is still up to you to decide what you want to do, if your heart agrees with it or not. In my honest opinion, there is nothing wrong with gambling, what i have a problem with is irresponsible gambling which many people are involved in, it is because of the actions of these people that many people condemn gambling.

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It's for everyone. But it will depend on each individual's choices. God gave us the freedom to choose. So you are free to gamble if you want unless you have a religion that is strict with these rules and you want to follow them.

Only those who are not yet in legal age are the people who are restricted from gambling. I guess you know why. You don't want your kid to be gambling at his/her age.
Whatever you heard, (if not religious) then those might be the traditional people who believe that gambling is the work of evil and it destroys a family or any bad reason they can think of. Well, there are still people nowadays who believe that. But do look at your surroundings, the percentage of people who like to gamble is getting higher, the advertisements about gambling are also soaring, and people seemed to be hooked by the idea of entertaining themselves using it. Social media is not enough anymore.

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February 29, 2024, 10:59:24 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.

No, there are no specific restrictions on gambling. It may seem unethical for a religious leader to gamble, but in reality many religious people also gamble. And that's their right, we can't forbid anyone from gambling, as long as they have money they can gamble and don't harm other people.

Gambling also does not recognize social strata or educational status, anyone can gamble. Maybe in some countries there are people who see gambling as a negative act, but today gambling can be done very secretly using our cell phones, so that the gambling activities we do can really be unknown to anyone.

But do look at your surroundings, the percentage of people who like to gamble is getting higher, the advertisements about gambling are also soaring, and people seemed to be hooked by the idea of entertaining themselves using it. Social media is not enough anymore.

Maybe people don't gamble as entertainment, but because many people want to make profits easily and quickly, gambling is becoming increasingly popular.

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February 29, 2024, 11:06:35 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is generally unrestricted, but some individuals may choose to impose limitations based on their circumstances. For instance, if you wish to maintain a certain image and avoid any negative associations with gambling, or if you are adhering to the tenets of a particular religion, you may choose to refrain from gambling.

It all depends on the individual whether they choose to impose restrictions on themselves or not. There are no restrictions on any particular group or class, as it ultimately comes down to personal choice and whether one decides to take a risk or not.
the thing that will make some people not to impose a restriction in gambling is when they are addicted in gambling you can only remember that you may have a limitation in gambling when you are not a committed gambler, I committed gambler is kind of gambler that does not think of restriction think of limitation before they kick of in gambling, so in my own understanding in gambling you have to know yourself and have a safe control in any gambling you venture into, I believe that gambling have to do with precautions and you have to remove a curiosity if you want to win in gambling.
There is no such thing as gambling without limitations. However, a gambler may choose between following a certain limitation or not. If the gambler chooses not to follow any limitations, then he doesn't need to worry about any limitations at all.

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February 29, 2024, 11:13:54 PM
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I would not say gambling is restricted whatsoever, anyone can gamble as long as they have the motivation and the money to do so. However, I would indeed point out that there are some demographic groups which seem to be more attracted to gambling or which are more prone to gamble. In my opinion, that demographic group is composed by young men living in developing countries and who may or may not be fans of some specific sports like football.
I have personally come to the conclusion those who experiment economical hardships are more likely to engage in gambling and wager money for the sake of trying to improve their situation in the short term, I say it because in my country there was a very tough period of time when people barely had any money and surprisingly gambling houses an casinos started to appear all around the country. In times of dispair, hitting some prize in the animal roulette could bring food on the table, while the rich will continue to keep their businesses and homes, regardless or them winning or losing their bets.

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February 29, 2024, 11:18:47 PM
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Way I see it, it's a free country and all.  Folks can fritter away their coins however they please - be it the slots or horses or what have you.  Course you got them what take it too far, let it eat em up inside til they ain't got two nickels to rub together.  But for most, just a bit of fun and games ain't causing no harm.  Those religious types might get all hot and bothered bout folks trying to get lucky but even the Good Book don't expressly say no gambling.  Only catch is it's looked down on by some circles. 

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February 29, 2024, 11:42:12 PM
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i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

One of the Mahatma Gandhi quotes that I loved a lot was the one where he said, “Live as if you were to die tomorrow; learn as if you were to live forever." It's as simple as that. I usually tell people to do whatever makes them happy; as long as it's not something illegal or something that endangers the lives of other people living around them, it's fine. Life is so short not to do things that make you feel happy. Whether someone is a pastor or a traditionalist, gambling is neither a crime nor a sin unless the gambler develops a bad gambling lifestyle, which cannot  happen unless the gambler allows themselves to become compulsive gamblers to the extent of becoming bankrupt and even beginning to eat, so it's not bad at all if  a pastor gambles during his spare time. There is nothing that has an advantage without a disadvantage. The disadvantage of gambling is bad, especially if a gambler decides to become addicted. 


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February 29, 2024, 11:48:39 PM
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The answer to your questions go this way;
The rules of gambling differ from country to country. In one country it could be legal while in another country it is completely illegal.

In one country, gamblers might be considered as sane people while in another country, gamblers are not considered as responsible people.

In one country, religion has no relationship with gambling, while in other countries, there's a free will and free choice.

But in majority of the countries, gambling is not considered as a noble profession and it is unethical and that is why it is being chestized by many because it has done more harm than good to the people.

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Especially online gambling is not restricted to any specific class at all. Online you can make bets with 0.000001$ or millions. Nobody is going to stop you. So if we're talking in very broad terms, then there's very little restriction to who's really gonna gamble. I think the distinction here should be a bit different. I think the more educated gambler these days has come online. Betting shops don't offer good odds, and the games they feature are not provably fair nor have a low house edge. Scratch cards for instance, which are one of the most popular methods for lower class people to gamble, are a way

But if we're talking about what class of people gets mostly affected by gambling, sure, poor people loose more of their income.

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February 29, 2024, 11:59:46 PM
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I decided to come up with this topic because of an experience i had yesterday and i decided to bring it here for clarity sake and to see some people's view about it.

There is this notion the society placed on those who gamble or who play all sorts of games ,be it casino,bet9ja,R/S lotto, what, snooker and many others. They often see them as those who don't have what to ,or caliber of individuals who are jobless, a se of people who are not well trained by their parents and many more other names they call them.

i sincerely came up with this topic to find out why they have such views on individuals who voluntarily went to the betting shop to gamble either to win and make a difference or to lose and remain the same way.  This idea actually started when i saw a pastor playing bet9ja after a brief evangelism and one elderly woman made a side comment ( That even man of GOD also play gamble) .

however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Gambling is not restricted to class. Both the wealthy, middle class and poor can gamble as long as they can afford it. However I don’t think a clergyman should be seen gambling especially when such acts are frowned upon in the religious community. I do not want to repeat what’s been said on other threads here, we had a similar discussion about religion and gambling not too long ago. I believe that thread is still active.

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March 01, 2024, 07:12:27 AM
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Anyway, since you brought it up I have a few questions for you... Does anyone forbid you to gamble? And who? Do you gamble and do you get some satisfaction from that? Or you gamble only to make a quick profit? What is your perception about gambling and how free you are to share that with us...
But should a pastor should be gambling? Pastor need to be leading by example. I saw OP mention bet9ja which is a Nigerian betting site and gambling is legal in Nigeria but some people may just not like it and have discouraging opinion about gambling even as the gambling is legal, especially people that know someone as a pastor will criticize the pastor for gambling. If OP is not a pastor, this should not bother him at all and also if he is not from the the Muslims northern part of Nigeria which forbid gambling. The southern parts are full of gambling shops and agents and people are gambling there in public very well. The southern people are also the people that are mostly on this forum, if not all of them are southerners.

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March 01, 2024, 08:19:36 AM
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No gambling is not restricted to some individuals or classes of people, anyone is allowed to gamble. Of course there are some age related restrictions but other than that I don't think there's any kind of restriction. If a country's law doesn't allow gambling and the country takes strict action against casinos then in such places it might be not possible to gamble, but many people even from such countries use VPNs to gamble on online casino sites. No stratification at all when it comes to gambling, like I said above everyone is allowed to gamble.
The restrictions on gambling has always been on age and not class or even financial capabilities, there are restrictions based on countries too which I don't fail to recognize too. Theses restirctions are usually placed for reasons sometimes to protect the individuals but then these people most times don't get to understand and want to just gamble especially so they can make money and not even to have fun. Every other person who's allowed to gamble can gamble but still with the caution of gambling responsibly.

Gambling should be done with care even if you are gambling responsibly then you wouldn't be bothered about been irresponsible or loosing money .

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March 01, 2024, 11:53:30 AM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
Many are being restricted, with their family belief and also the religions belief but still they are able to gamble and find a way. Perception of many about gambling is negative as they believe that this is the root of evil because of the money and also because of how the people react to this especially with their emotion and greediness. If you are into gamble despite of the restriction, then better to keep it for yourself so you wont be judged easily by many.
There are people who doesnt really like to be judged or to hear off someones comments or words against them specially if they got caught on doing something which is really against their religion or beliefs or whatsoever.

Gambling activity or dealing up with it will really be that depending on you. It is really just that needing up that kind of self control and moderation so that you wont really be finding yourself that getting addicted to it.
Usually people do mess up their lives on the time that they do make out bad decisions in regarding about their dealing with gambling. Gambling should be just for fun and not something stressful.
People do really end up on messing their lives just because of that wrong perception and belief towards it. They do make themselves getting desperate until they would be able to mess
up their lives because of gambling.

Dont make yourself having this kind of intent on mind because it would really be messing up your life if you wont really be that careful on taking up such decisions.

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March 01, 2024, 01:12:36 PM
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Those who gamble with their own spare money, and do not rely on others or loan money to gamble will always be at the later risk of being irresponsible gamblers, and among other thing is that gambling if done in the right sense and following the right formula cant be taken to be an irresponsible act but many people still believe in that wrong assumption about gambling, because from the many outcome of gambling, it has been on a more negative public outlook and that is the reason why many non-gamblers always take gambling to be against the ethics.


But for experienced gamblers like myself and others like you who have taken the time to check the many ups and downs and if we properly manage ourselves we can be able to stay above the many negative waters in gambling

With the fact that gambling can make players lose control, it is clear, because there have been many cases of the adverse effects of irresponsible gambling, right you said that those who gamble with spare money will of course have their own risks. All the same, gambling with your own money or reserves, as well as using other people's money which may be borrowed if used for gambling then the same is at risk.  I agree with you, indeed most people have the wrong assumption about gambling, where they think gambling can give them a profitable win for sure, even though it is unrealistic. Because the gambling industry company also aims to make a profit from the many people who do gambling, with those who are addicted to gambling, then they will provide benefits for the gambling company. Especially now that there is online gambling, this makes more people aware of gambling with all circles. Even small children who are still under the age of 18+ can do it if they understand the steps. And of course this is one of the benefits obtained by gambling industry companies.

The number of bad views about gambling in my opinion is that the majority of religions prohibit this activity, and also with the many cases that harm people it makes a lot of negative points of view on gambling. But I myself think that the many cases of losses or bad effects of gambling are caused by the excessive actions of the individuals themselves, if only they could do gambling naturally with normal limits, maybe there would not be many negative views on gambling.

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March 01, 2024, 01:35:39 PM
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however, my question here now is : is gambling restricted to some certain kind of individuals or class?  or is there any stratification when it comes to playing gambling ?please your opinions here here will actually quench my curiosity.
This assumption is not because they play certain games or because they come from the lower middle class, but because gambling is always considered a bad thing, even when someone commits a bad act and is known to be a gambler, society will immediately associate it with their gambling habits even though the reason for their bad actions could be something else and that's people who will only judge from the surface, they will see what is visible without ever considering anything else.
In addition, media reports that sometimes do not detail the bad things about gambling increasingly make people agree that gambling is a bad thing, even though of the many who gamble there may be those who have bad behavior, but those who remain good human beings are of course also many, because they gamble just for fun and are responsible for their gambling.

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