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March 02, 2024, 08:14:35 AM
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Debt is debt be it gambling debt or not, okay, come to think of this if your parents take loan to train you in school and at some points you almost finished (about to graduate) even you have taken your final exams and finishes your defence in school just your convocation then you were called that your Dad is late, what would you do at this point?

Would you say since is not you who took the loan you won't pay the loan borrowed on behalf of you to take care of your schooling or what?

Of course you would pay the loan but not as immediate as you could asked for extension or go plead with the lender to cease the interest since your father is late and the bill will keep accumulating for you. So, it is to gambling loan when your parents took loan and happened to passed away the loan remains for their children or anyone who is financial stable to come clear them off because if when they were alive and they took the loan to gamble then it turns that they made fortune out of it there is no day you would say you won't touch your father's wealth since they aren't alive to enjoy that money.

Man, to some wayward girls and son's that will be their best time to flirt with their parents property and wealth since no one is there to control them or give them instructions. When you turn it the other way round you would see that all still bounce back to the children to pay out those loan kept by their late parents there is nothing to shy away from because you that are living will have to pay the loan.

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March 02, 2024, 10:30:15 AM
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Paying debt you didn't owe is not easy and in some cases those parents didn't have any property for the children to sell to pay those debts. Even at that if the Children have money and if they were in good term with the gambler father before they can pay that debt if not most children refused to pay those debts and left it for the family members to pay those debts. Individual debt can't make the society nto be angry and I don't know the area you are talking about. Though society frown about bad behavior because it affects the interaction of members. Even though the father was a gambler and he owe debt. Good fathers look for a solution for their children before dieing.

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March 02, 2024, 01:02:23 PM
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Paying debt you didn't owe is not easy and in some cases those parents didn't have any property for the children to sell to pay those debts. Even at that if the Children have money and if they were in good term with the gambler father before they can pay that debt if not most children refused to pay those debts and left it for the family members to pay those debts. Individual debt can't make the society nto be angry and I don't know the area you are talking about. Though society frown about bad behavior because it affects the interaction of members. Even though the father was a gambler and he owe debt. Good fathers look for a solution for their children before dieing.

Sure, paying for something you've never done before or paying for a loan that someone else took out is something that most people wouldn't do, but on the other hand, no matter how bad it is, it's their own father or family member and there's no one else to answer to except their own family if the gambler who inherited the debt is dead, and after all, the people who will collect the debt are the family and not the dead person.

On the other hand, I would say that you would not have any obligation to pay the debt if you were a nobody, or if the person who owed the debt and died was someone else who was not related to you. Sometimes I like to hear cases similar to this where the parents leave a debt when they die and this is not only the case in gambling, because loan services are generally used for many things, such as business capital or urgent living needs or other things, and still in the end it is the closest people, especially family members who are responsible for it,

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March 02, 2024, 01:11:35 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

This is funny to me, how will a right thinking person borrow to satisfy his gambling curiosity I see this as an education in the highest level, the level of gambling this days is becoming something else, though I have not seen where this happens but I don't know if this is legal in anyway, if a gambling addict borrow money to play gamble, if he didn't present the purpose of his borrowing which I know that it is not possible, this matter can be presented to the competent court of jurisdiction because debt is involved but I know that a good money lender can not give his hard earned money out to anyone without a collateral, no matter you use your borrowed money for it doesn't concern the borrower, what matters to him or her is the repayment of the debt.


You just made it very clear to us here because I don't understand why and how a right thinking person will go to borrow money to just to cure his gambling curiosity it is done anyway... Yes indeed it is done but brother believe I have seen people like that more than twice they even go ahead to even take things forcefully from people in the order you say stealig from people just to cure their own curiosity towards gambling....

I have been able to meet people who are ready to do undoable things just to satisfy their gambling habits and they always believe that the last one which they didn't participate on is the game that they are going to win..

Sone even forge ahead to sell either their property father or relative properties just to make sure they gamble because they believed once they gamble the money will be doubled so definitely after their withdrawal they can get replaced the property or even get new on and till have some money left with me... When it turns out well they have left the debt for their parents or spouse

I have met some students who ends up gambling with their schools fees just to double up so if a gambler and they will still go back to their parents by so doing they have also left the debt for their parents to pay by coming up with one excuse or the other .....
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March 02, 2024, 01:18:14 PM
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a loan is for oneself and the responsibility of the person making the loan and will not be passed on to our children. After death, usually active loans will be removed by the system with proof that the person actually died.
it seems like that.

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March 02, 2024, 01:19:13 PM
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Yes, someone can inherit gambling debt if the gambler that loan the money from the gambling center and something bad happen to take his or her life, the person that stand as a guarantor will totally inherit the debt and, we have seen many cases like this in court and the person that stand as a guarantor will be the one to pay the money.

I don't know why some gamblers will finish the money they budgeted for the gambling and still borrow money from the owner of the gambling center, which they know that the owner don't joke with their money because they have two ways to collect their money back from such gamblers either arrest or Sue the gambler to court to recover his or her money back.

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March 02, 2024, 02:45:50 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?
Let me start by saying it's highly irresponsible of any father to be collecting loans for gambling, it is just unspeakable and will truly anger the children especially when they are not following his gambling path. Fathers should be saving and preserving assets for their children, and not otherwise. But still, it is not as thought and obliging as you think, it is subjected to many considerations.

When you take a loan and couldn't pay it until death, no one is responsible for the payment other than you unless there are signed legal documents to back the transfer of payment up which could make another person than the direct debtor liable for payments. For this, the children are never responsible for the collection of the loan, so they can't pay the loan unless they are legally involved. But at times, to avoid shame or just want to clear the name of the father to honour him, they might choose to pay off the debt.

Also, in the case that the debtor uses certain assets as collateral, the creditor will come for the asset to either take possession of it or sell it and set off the bet if anyone can't pay the debt for the deceased. In this case, as well, the children might not want the asset to be sold and be forced to pay the debt. I hope you get the gits? Inasmuch as the children are not co-signers to the loan collection, they are not responsible for it and will not be obliged to pay unless they feel like due to one reason or another. This is one of the risks that banks and loan companies face too if they do not properly document their clients/customers to make them accountable.

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March 02, 2024, 02:57:48 PM
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Also, in the case that the debtor uses certain assets as collateral, the creditor will come for the asset to either take possession of it or sell it and set off the bet if anyone can't pay the debt for the deceased. In this case, as well, the children might not want the asset to be sold and be forced to pay the debt. I hope you get the gits? Inasmuch as the children are not co-signers to the loan collection, they are not responsible for it and will not be obliged to pay unless they feel like due to one reason or another. This is one of the risks that banks and loan companies face too if they do not properly document their clients/customers to make them accountable.
That is, in case of debt, the heirs won't inherit the patrimony of the deceased one, as it will be used to pay the debt left by him in life. If after the debt is paid, there is still patrimony left, the heirs will receive the surplus, but in case the patrimony isn't enough to pay the debt, heirs don't receive anything, what is good from a certain point of view, since debt left isn't inherited too.

The reason why many people get revolted on this matter, it's because they think it's absurd to not have access to the heritage, so they consider they inherited the debt somehow. It's understandable they feel like this and blame banks, loan sharks, gambling on the process, although they forget it was mainly fault of the deceased individual who compromised his finances, patrimony and the future of his heirs.

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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

Yes, I think that gambling debt can be inherited after the death of a relative. This might be different in other countries depending on specific laws, but in my country you don't only inherit assets, you also have to take care of the liabilities. When it comes to debt I don't think that gambling debt is any special, it will just be summarized across all type of debts. For example, your dad owns his own house worth 500,000 USD, with a 100,000 USD mortgage on it. On top if it he has a gambling loan worth 100,000 USD. Then if you are the only heir you will have to pay back the loans So, if you want to get the assets of your father, you will have to pay back his loans. In the end you only would inherit 300,000 as the debt is not written off. The good thing is that the loans are not being called back in full at the time of death. You will just have to pay the monthly rates for the two loans and are not being forced into selling the house. In case your father has no assets at all, you would still have to pay back the 200,000 USD. However, in that case you can not accept the inheritance and it's not your problem anymore.
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

This is funny to me, how will a right thinking person borrow to satisfy his gambling curiosity I see this as an education in the highest level, the level of gambling this days is becoming something else, though I have not seen where this happens but I don't know if this is legal in anyway, if a gambling addict borrow money to play gamble, if he didn't present the purpose of his borrowing which I know that it is not possible, this matter can be presented to the competent court of jurisdiction because debt is involved but I know that a good money lender can not give his hard earned money out to anyone without a collateral, no matter you use your borrowed money for it doesn't concern the borrower, what matters to him or her is the repayment of the debt.

I really dislike the situation of someone gambling with borrowed money. Such a gambler is clearly not aware of his actions and exposes not only himself and his family, but also the entire gambling community.

In my opinion, to sue the debtor you must have a loan agreement, otherwise you simply can not prove that the transfer of money is a loan. At least this is the case in some jurisdictions.

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March 02, 2024, 04:19:15 PM
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Debt is debt be it gambling debt or not, okay, come to think of this if your parents take loan to train you in school and at some points you almost finished (about to graduate) even you have taken your final exams and finishes your defence in school just your convocation then you were called that your Dad is late, what would you do at this point?

Would you say since is not you who took the loan you won't pay the loan borrowed on behalf of you to take care of your schooling or what?

Of course you would pay the loan but not as immediate as you could asked for extension or go plead with the lender to cease the interest since your father is late and the bill will keep accumulating for you. So, it is to gambling loan when your parents took loan and happened to passed away the loan remains for their children or anyone who is financial stable to come clear them off because if when they were alive and they took the loan to gamble then it turns that they made fortune out of it there is no day you would say you won't touch your father's wealth since they aren't alive to enjoy that money.

Man, to some wayward girls and son's that will be their best time to flirt with their parents property and wealth since no one is there to control them or give them instructions. When you turn it the other way round you would see that all still bounce back to the children to pay out those loan kept by their late parents there is nothing to shy away from because you that are living will have to pay the loan.
Debt, whether we sign or inherit it, binds us. Your scenario is harsh, yet duties don't die with the debtor. Though severe, it's the foundation of financial knowledge. Your loan is for education, a great cause. You face a crossroads when your father, your guarantor, disappears suddenly. Do you avoid accountability because you didn't sign the agreement? Not at all. It's about honour and your father's legacy, not just law

Next, negotiate with the lender. Communication and compromise are key, not evasion. Financial institutions know life's uncertainties. Your approach should be direct, realistic, and focused on honouring your father's wishes without ruining your finances. The principle applies to gambling debts. Responsibility remains. Fortunes would assist the family, right? Conversely, debts persist and require payment. This doesn't include judgement; it's about accepting financial repercussions regardless of their type

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If you want to borrow money, there must be a collateral. If there is not collateral, there must be one or more guarantors. I do not think anyone can be a guarantor of a gambler. It is the father that have the debt and if he dies, his family will pay with the properties or works that the father left on earth. I do not think the son have any problem with his own property. That is why it is good to have your own property and be independent.
Well yeah, for me this is the safest thing we need to do if one of the member of the family especially our parents are into gambling because we do not know what they are doing in there either they already makes the property we are in as a collateral or any other properties that will affect each members of the family so better to prepare for the worst. For me this is just an isolated case here in my area not unless gambling addiction is common in a particular place.

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March 02, 2024, 05:39:37 PM
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So gambling and debt can be a real downer. Especially when the debt gets out of control, like that story you shared about the gambler's dad. It's a bummer and a reminder that things can get seriously messy if you're not careful.

Gambling can be fun, but it's not a magic money machine. In fact, it's more like a risky rollercoaster that might leave you feeling empty-pocketed at the end. The key is to play it safe. Only gamble with money you can afford to lose, like that leftover cash from your last paycheck after bills are paid. And remember, winning is a bonus, not the main goal. If you're just playing for fun, losing shouldn't feel like the end of the world.

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March 02, 2024, 05:46:05 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

I want to say that the short answer is yes, your kids could aquire your debt even if they had nothing to do with it and you are dead. It just depends on the country you are in and the type of debt that has been accrued. It is quite a shame, I know for your credit card debt it is an absolute, but for gambling debt it think it may vary. Do you have any statistics/source link to the claim that most peole that have alarming loan/gambling debt are fathers to kids? I've never heard of this before....

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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

I want to say that the short answer is yes, your kids could aquire your debt even if they had nothing to do with it and you are dead. It just depends on the country you are in and the type of debt that has been accrued. It is quite a shame, I know for your credit card debt it is an absolute, but for gambling debt it think it may vary. Do you have any statistics/source link to the claim that most peole that have alarming loan/gambling debt are fathers to kids? I've never heard of this before....
Totally depends if there would really be those contracts that had been signed and there are ones who had been that not that mentioned. There are really indeed debts that could be inherited or transferred on which it is really that sad with that kind of condition on which to those family members who had been left out are the ones who would really be suffering into the debts that you have left behind.
They are the ones who would really be suffering on trying out to resolve into those things that you have created. Therefore, before you die then it would be always best that everything should
be cleared up not unless if you dont have that kind of pity into those family of yours then you wouldnt really be showing up some care but well this is really that situational i should say.

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Debt, whether we sign or inherit it, binds us. Your scenario is harsh, yet duties don't die with the debtor.
This may seems to be harsh but it's a bitter truth we need to know about debt that are being inherited, some people always trying shy away from their responsibility what just happened is that we can also try to talk to our parents that are living a debtful life to reduce also considering their ages. When they are of age we should at least try talking to them to limit their gambling activity in order to reduce being indebted, and again we must check if our (your) parents are those people who loves taking loans even though not for gambling purpose but they might take loan for other aspects of life were we may not know the reason for them to take such loan.

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March 02, 2024, 06:18:02 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?

You sound like you have statistics to this numbers that is bothering you. This borrowing of a thing isn't only fathers who have kids and responsibilities, but have you look into number of students that gamble these days? They are very cumbersome in number and you see them everywhere, some used their school fees to gamble when they are supposed to use it to pay their school fees on the resumption date but because the school fees portal is open for some month, they leverage on that to bet and if doesn't go as they expect it, they start running here and there for help.

Gambling has consume a lot of people, some is because some of their parent refuse to take responsibility of their children and they result into gambling because there is no other way easy alternatives for them. A student is supposed to have textbooks, feeding allowances, assignments and projects work money but all these are not taken care by he parent and is among the reason why student are frustrated to gamble, not just the father's with kids.

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March 02, 2024, 06:50:31 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?
I don't think the child will have any business with such debts except the were filed as the next of kin or guarantor after seeking their consent but if their consent wasn't sought after then such can be contested in a competent court of law and such person be free of such dept so it's something we have literally see happened in various Case so most times the creditors request a collateral so I'm cases of such recovery of the funds becomes easy .

Kids who aren't aware of any debt arrangements between their dad and a third party can always contest such in court and will be exempted from such a case but then I'd they are aware and consented to it then they may have to inherit such

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March 02, 2024, 07:16:43 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?
I don't think the child will have any business with such debts except the were filed as the next of kin or guarantor after seeking their consent but if their consent wasn't sought after then such can be contested in a competent court of law and such person be free of such dept so it's something we have literally see happened in various Case so most times the creditors request a collateral so I'm cases of such recovery of the funds becomes easy .

Kids who aren't aware of any debt arrangements between their dad and a third party can always contest such in court and will be exempted from such a case but then I'd they are aware and consented to it then they may have to inherit such
These things or argument could really go into distance on which on the time that you would really be finding yourself trying out to fight if ever there's some debt that you would really be needing out to be paid up
just because your father or someone in your family have left out such loans. It do really sucks if you do end up on paying up on something that you havent been able to make use of.
The worst thing on here is that this is a gambling debt on which this isnt a debt that it has been used on worth manner but rather it is really just that leisure.
It would really be that best if someone is really that harassing you to pay up some loan just because your father have left something then you could approach for some professional advise or seek of help.

Im not really that good when it comes to legal aspects but if it turns out that there is some sort of agreement on which it is clearly stated
that you are obliged to pay as family members then you wont really be having no choice but to deal up with it.

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March 02, 2024, 08:37:21 PM
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The high rate of gamblers who take loan for gambling purposes is quite alarming, and most of them are fathers to kids. Most of them don't end up taking care of their debt before passing. What happens to the funds, when the lender comes for his money? It's quite a tough one for a person who isn't a gambler to inherit a trouble from a gambling dad. Such things also increase the anger of the society on gamblers, because the addicts are, also, good at extending their problem gambling to other close relatives. Could it be talked through in the law court?
There are many people who take loans to participate in gambling, they go into a lot of debt to get loans, so lenders come to them for loans, they have to sell their houses and land to pay off their loans. I have seen many people around me who take loans from moneylenders to gamble. They take loans and participate in gambling and at some point they lose everything as lenders come to them for loans, they have to sell their houses and land to pay off their debts. Such gamblers are the most hated people in the society, especially in the rural society these people are very hated by all the people. A small budget should always be used for gambling and never more than a small budget. Those who have spent all of their life's income on gambling are the ones who suffer the most and end up in debt.

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