The Downfall of FreeBitco.in [YouTube]

[Get-Paid.com]

As a team with experience of over 6 years running 20 faucets we wanted to share our feedback about this sleeping giant's faucet.
We've uploaded a new YouTube video about it:

https://youtu.be/cEdhuL980zo

Feel free to watch and share your feedback. Any comments are highly appreciated.

[snead]

As I responded to your Twitter ( X ) post, you don't operate faucets anymore, you replaced them with casinos that have a side faucet that can be rolled once per day to win half a Satoshi. You have effectively locked your users out of the funds that they have collected by making the withdraw threshold many years out at one roll per day. Or else they must burn away the coins in the casinos to maybe level up to 3 or 4 rolls a day. When I see freebitco in making such drastic moves, I will then worry about their downfall.

[Get-Paid.com]

As I responded to your Twitter ( X ) post, you don't operate faucets anymore, you replaced them with casinos that have a side faucet that can be rolled once per day to win half a Satoshi. You have effectively locked your users out of the funds that they have collected by making the withdraw threshold many years out at one roll per day. Or else they must burn away the coins in the casinos to maybe level up to 3 or 4 rolls a day.

Thanks for your feedback.
We effectively first of all locked a lot of bad users out of the ability to drain our faucets, that's our first immediate response to the problem. Our goal is to work with genuine users and in order to achieve it first - we fix the faucet, the 'drainage' so to speak.

We are looking for several options how to proceed but it's too early to speculate, for instance phone verification, the option to buy a membership without gambling, and so on, we're currently adjusting to a new situation so those who stay with us could still profit long term, but it's too early to tell what's going to happen next.

For now the current present solution does allow many users to enjoy our faucets nonetheless even without any new features. $5 wagering by all means is not a lot, and the potential to get a better return back is there, even now.

But let's go back to the topic of this thread itself, you mentioned:

When I see freebitco in making such drastic moves, I will then worry about their downfall.

You see in front of you several 'drastic moves' on so many wrong levels already such as:

• 0 customer service, no support
• Issues remain unresolved
• Instant withdrawals have started to be processed on manual basis
• Lack of transparency

Speaking of which, customer service, our live chat feature is something most of our users are extremely satisfied with.

We do understand some users are not happy with the changes we've made, but we haven't run away, and with these changes we can adopt and make things better. Can you say the same about FreeBitco?

[decodx]

OP, while watching your video, I came across the part where you mentioned a post by bitcointalk.org user gess242558. This prompted me to check your statements.

On the same page you took the screenshot from, a user posted this:

wait they answered

But you chose to ignore that information and continued with your wrong assumptions.

And yesterday, the same user posted this:

Well, they have already arrived, now I’m waiting for new ones!

yes satoshi came freebitcoin - the best project in 10 years!

So my question is, why did you continue to mislead your viewers (basically lied) with your video?

[Get-Paid.com]

So my question is, why did you continue to mislead your viewers (basically lied) with your video?

Watch again buddy, at 2:24.
The quote is from jper3009.

Yes, it is taken in the video with a quoted frame under Gess's post but it has nothing todo with Gess.

Btw at 9:42 it is mentioned the user (jper) was credited eventually but it has taken 6 months!

[decodx]

So my question is, why did you continue to mislead your viewers (basically lied) with your video?

Watch again buddy, at 2:24.
The quote is from jper3009.

Yes, it is taken in the video with a quoted frame under Gess's post but it has nothing todo with Gess.

Yes. You seem to be right about that. You used a quote from GESS242558, so I made the wrong conclusion.

But still, same argument. You have selectively used information and ignored facts that do not fit your narrative. For example, jper3009 did receive responses, both from TheQuin and their email support. You didn't mention that. In the video, the impression given was that there was a complete lack of response, which is not true.

Btw at 9:42 it is mentioned the user (jper) was credited eventually but it has taken 6 months!

No, I NEVER got to that part. I found your video very subjective and based on opinions rather than facts, so I stopped watching.

[Get-Paid.com]

You have selectively used information and ignored facts that do not fit your narrative. For example, jper3009 did receive responses, both from TheQuin and their email support.

Once again, are you sure about that?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.msg63736395#msg63736395

Quote - February 29, 2024, 10:55:08 AM

Yes I have a deposit problem. I made a deposit that wasn't credited to my account on the website. It's been over 6 months of trying to get in touch with absolutely no response from support. I'm exhausted, I have been posting about it on this forum since December 2023. It also seems (from people's responses to my complaint) that the support team is ineffective. I am so so exhausted. 😢

That is a quote from yesterday.

[snead]

One or two people with a deposit issue out of thousands is exactly cherry picking. We don't even know if the complaint is genuine anyway. Have they yet posted in Scam Accusation with documentation? Transparency? You dropped your changes on users without warning and posted a video hours later. Previously you have raised withdrawal thresholds dramatically without warning. But I never complained because transparency is not promised. Customer support is usually poor, heh, big companies like AT&T and Comcast have poor support. None of this is drastic to any reasonable person. As far as manual processing of withdrawals, you say in one sentence that there is fraud and abuse to deal with, then the next sentence that taking more care processing withdrawals is bad. Maybe they should clarify what "instant" means, that would be a fair point.

[Get-Paid.com]

Previously you have raised withdrawal thresholds dramatically without warning. But I never complained because transparency is not promised.

There is actually transparency about that from 2022 and it was posted many times on our social media channels:

https://freebitcoin.io/articles/our-guarantee

"Against this guarantee we are taking the liberty to change the withdrawal threshold in any of our sites between $0 to $20 anytime, without any notification whatsoever."

One or two people with a deposit issue out of thousands is exactly cherry picking.

No, it's not cherry picking. Not everyone knows about Bitcointalk. Not everyone is a crypto fan.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/freebitco.in

1) Eric, 5 Reviews (seems to be credible), "Where is my FUN? I have sent many messages, but have not received any response"
Date of experience: February 05, 2024

2) https://x.com/sundaypeter8110/status/1763262951467720766?s=20
Recent response to a recent tweet

3) https://www.mouthshut.com/websites/Freebitco-reviews-925917644
"they will keep everything and close your account. They scammed me out of more than$600 dollars"

Here are a few more cherry picks for you, all recent, and there are lots more, these are just from the top 3 from Google on the web when searching for "freebitco.in reviews".

Do you honestly think all these people know a website called Bitcointalk exists and they will file a scam accusation? One way or another:

We are not the ones tarnishing their reputation, they are doing it by themselves when they're leaving so many users stranded.

We want them to succeed, we're not against them, but whatever they're doing now is wrong, it's a fact, not an assumption.

[decodx]

You have selectively used information and ignored facts that do not fit your narrative. For example, jper3009 did receive responses, both from TheQuin and their email support.

Once again, are you sure about that?

Yes, I'm sure.

TheQuin replied to the user on January 15:

I'm sorry if I missed it. Please send me a PM with the details.

And jper3009 himself confirmed that he received a response:

I'm not sure what happened but this is the explanation I got from TheQuin

"As a general observation when 2 outputs on the same transaction are sent to the same deposit address the first is processed immediately and then the server has to go back and reread the transaction before it processes the second one. That causes a delay in the second one showing up which often causes people to incorrectly think they only got one."

However in my case I was not credited the second transaction until date. I made 2 deposits, one was added and the other wasn't.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.msg63736395#msg63736395

That is a quote from yesterday.

Yes, I'm aware the user still claims that one of his deposits wasn't credited.  However, for objectivity, I prefer not to draw conclusions based on a single complaint without attached evidence. It could be a legitimate issue or a simple misunderstanding.

[Get-Paid.com]

Yes, I'm aware the user still claims that one of his deposits wasn't credited.  However, for objectivity, I prefer not to draw conclusions based on a single complaint without attached evidence. It could be a legitimate issue or a simple misunderstanding.

We're not here to discuss one particular case or another, we're calling them to change their business model. This case is just one example.

You're happy with their product and it's great, we're happy to hear it.

[snead]

Previously you have raised withdrawal thresholds dramatically without warning. But I never complained because transparency is not promised.

There is actually transparency about that from 2022 and it was posted many times on our social media channels:

https://freebitcoin.io/articles/our-guarantee

"Against this guarantee we are taking the liberty to change the withdrawal threshold in any of our sites between $0 to $20 anytime, without any notification whatsoever."

One or two people with a deposit issue out of thousands is exactly cherry picking.

No, it's not cherry picking. Not everyone knows about Bitcointalk. Not everyone is a crypto fan.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/freebitco.in

1) Eric, 5 Reviews (seems to be credible), "Where is my FUN? I have sent many messages, but have not received any response"
Date of experience: February 05, 2024

2) https://x.com/sundaypeter8110/status/1763262951467720766?s=20
Recent response to a recent tweet

3) https://www.mouthshut.com/websites/Freebitco-reviews-925917644
"they will keep everything and close your account. They scammed me out of more than$600 dollars"

Here are a few more cherry picks for you, all recent, and there are lots more, these are just from the top 3 from Google on the web when searching for "freebitco.in reviews".

Do you honestly think all these people know a website called Bitcointalk exists and they will file a scam accusation? One way or another:

We are not the ones tarnishing their reputation, they are doing it by themselves when they're leaving so many users stranded.

We want them to succeed, we're not against them, but whatever they're doing now is wrong, it's a fact, not an assumption.

You can surely hunt up plenty of complaints from dozens of places, but out of thousands of users, it's still a small number. I have used their site since 2016 and made many deposits and withdrawals with no problem. The people with problems likely made a mistake on their side. The "where's my FUN" guy, did he lock the FUN for a time period and now wants out? It's happened. The $600 scam guy, was he cheating somehow? WE only know one side of these.

[FinneysTrueVision]

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/freebitco.in

TrustPilot is complete garbage. Reviews aren’t vetted and it’s really easy to manipulate their ratings. A company can go from having a 1-star rating to 5 stars overnight. In fact, that seems to be the case with your copycat faucet. An early snapshot from the Wayback Machine shows you previously had a 2-star rating.



Normally your website receives 1 or two ratings a month, most of them bad or average. However, there are several times where you received more than a dozen reviews within the span of a couple days, most of them being very favorable. Clearly those are not organic reviews, yet it’s the reason why your site maintains a decent rating of 3.9 stars.

I also see from the replies you made to your reviewers, you’ve been spamming the same Free Dogecoin blog post to try and discredit FreeBitco.in for many years now, even when it was irrelevant to the review.

[Get-Paid.com]

yet it’s the reason why your site maintains a decent rating of 3.9 stars.

It's called being hands on and responding to user complaints.

Of course they don't have to do that on every platform but they simply don't respond at all. If you get stuck you're stuck forever.

[Get-Paid.com]

Seeing now lots of worried users is truly heart breaking.
The writing was on the wall, we posted this 3 months ago.

We never post nonsense for no reason.

Truly hoping things would be okay for all Freebitco.in users, but just note the actions we have undertaken when we noticed where things were going.

[SATWAT]

Seeing now lots of worried users is truly heart breaking.
The writing was on the wall, we posted this 3 months ago.

We never post nonsense for no reason.

Truly hoping things would be okay for all Freebitco.in users, but just note the actions we have undertaken when we noticed where things were going.

I agreed about your view as well with I am following you and your faucets for long time but sadly as you turn them into casino I drop them and now having nothing with them for last few months even now I am encouraging my referrals as well for leaving this all because this is not good idea you have to bring some changes with give you better results instead of having faucets into casino.

Now about this Freebitco It's also really sad we lost one of the oldest faucet and things are now taking terrible changes because many members are on verge of losing their amounts which is surely the worst thing going to happen here again.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Seeing now lots of worried users is truly heart breaking.
The writing was on the wall, we posted this 3 months ago.

We never post nonsense for no reason.

Truly hoping things would be okay for all Freebitco.in users, but just note the actions we have undertaken when we noticed where things were going.

You’ve been crying wolf and spreading unfounded misinformation for several years. You aren’t heartbroken about users losing funds, you’re heartbroken because if FreeBitco.in disappears you will lose some referral income and you won’t be able to shill your own scam website by hijacking FreeBitco.in threads on this forum and on social media platforms.

[Get-Paid.com]

You’ve been crying wolf and spreading unfounded misinformation for several years.

No, the first time we posted "against" FreeBitco.in was 3 months ago in March 2024.
Before then we actually even promoted them.

You are welcome to attack our business if you wish but please you yourself don't spread unfounded misinformation about what we did, because that's exactly what you're doing here.

You aren’t heartbroken about users losing funds, you’re heartbroken because if FreeBitco.in disappears you will lose some referral income and you won’t be able to shill your own scam website by hijacking FreeBitco.in threads on this forum and on social media platforms.

That's another big lie.
The weekly payout we get from our 100k+ referrals from FreeBitco.in is $30 - $100 normally.
If you think our sites rely on this amount of money to sustain the business then you're clearly wrong.
FreeBitco.in was a great site to promote but looking into the future it has turned into a disaster, and by using the word "disaster" we're using quite an accurate description. 0 customer service, 0 support, now transactions are missing and users have no where to turn to.

FYI our sites have been running since 2017, Get-Paid.com has been running since 2010, how many complaints have you seen online against our sites? Not asking for any user appreciation, but you ignore the fact our businesses haven't scammed users and we had many $300 jackpot winners, let alone some winners who grabbed several thousands of $, they always got their withdrawals on time. We never scammed our users and we do reply to our users, all the times. There is customer support available around the clock. All of our sites have it, and it's proper support, not ones providing generic vague replies.

One more thing in relation to your misinformation, if they shut down then our site might take #1 in the search rankings and more, FreeBitcoin.io, so supposedly there won't be any need to "hijack" threads, but you're missing the big point here. We don't hijack threads, this is a self-created thread. So far the information posted has been more than accurate. It was posted 3 months ago, not years ago. Every single word was weighed and considered before posting. You should also view our post history and see how "often" we "hijack" threads which is another false accusation of yours.

Keep on spreading lies on this forum and keep on protecting those who leave users without support and soon without their money. We're not the ones scamming our users.

[Get-Paid.com]

I agreed about your view as well with I am following you and your faucets for long time but sadly as you turn them into casino I drop them and now having nothing with them for last few months even now I am encouraging my referrals as well for leaving this all because this is not good idea you have to bring some changes with give you better results instead of having faucets into casino.

Now about this Freebitco It's also really sad we lost one of the oldest faucet and things are now taking terrible changes because many members are on verge of losing their amounts which is surely the worst thing going to happen here again.

Thanks for your feedback.
We tried using FlokiGames as means for users to go up levels in VIP and play free games (business terms = play to earn).

Unfortunately the results were not that great so far. Way below expectations.

The offerwalls are doing better than that, but "unfortunately" for users like you - yes, the gambling aspect is the most profitable one for some users, for us... monetizing just with ads is dead now, it's not what it used to be years ago and even back then these ads were mostly gambling ads.

[FinneysTrueVision]

No, the first time we posted "against" FreeBitco.in was 3 months ago in March 2024.
Before then we actually even promoted them.

You are welcome to attack our business if you wish but please you yourself don't spread unfounded misinformation about what we did, because that's exactly what you're doing here.

You’ve been claiming for years that their rolls are rigged and the lottery is rigged. The only evidence you have ever provided of them being rigged is quotes from other people saying they have never won higher prizes. The only site we know for sure to be rigged is your own copycat faucet, which claims to be provably fair but doesn’t provide a formula for people to verify their rolls.

The fact is - you won't see many $200 winners, and the fact is the lottery is rigged too - but it's still a good website, it's credible and it pays out - and that's what's important - that you know that even if you get a basic prize - you would get your payment.

FYI our sites have been running since 2017, Get-Paid.com has been running since 2010, how many complaints have you seen online against our sites?

One more thing in relation to your misinformation, if they shut down then our site might take #1 in the search rankings and more, FreeBitcoin.io, so supposedly there won't be any need to "hijack" threads, but you're missing the big point here.

There are many complaints and negative reviews on Twitter and TrustPilot, although you might have to filter out some astroturfed fake reviews that were used to manipulate your rating, which is still not even that great at 3.9 stars.

Considering how all your promo threads are dead and barely receive any replies, I am sure a much more competently marketed website, that doesn’t need to resort to spamming their competitor’s forum threads and Twitter replies or using fake reviews, would come along and displace FreeBitco.in from search results.