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May 30, 2024, 03:24:39 PM
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Considering how all your promo threads are dead and barely receive any replies

Our threads were like this years ago since 2017, Bitcointalk is not the only place we use for promos.
You can judge based on what you like, the fact is we are proud to respond to users, and we don't leave users stranded.

You can find flaws in any business, your feedback is highly appreciated but if you have nothing constructive to add then we'll end this conversation here.

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June 07, 2024, 11:22:00 PM
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We don't even know if the complaint is genuine anyway. Have they yet posted in Scam Accusation with documentation? Transparency? You dropped your changes on users without warning and posted a video hours later.

Well, it seems like a month old thread in the scam accusation forum is gaining momentum, this doesn't look good unfortunately:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5495097.0

You're asking what we did when we saw troubles? Yes, we made changes, and explained them very well here as well:

https://freebitcoin.io/articles/changes-to-our-faucets-from-feb-2024

It's called communication. You talk to your users. You tell them you have to make changes because otherwise things will go downhill.

That was exactly the main purpose of this thread, to bring this exact awareness. Are you finally aware of it now? Can you see that the old freebitco is no longer the same, users get no support and the amount of complaints is only piling up?

Have you watched the video? We have over 120k referrals in this site, do you think we want them to fail?

Please, once and for all, wake up. Something's wrong and so far they do nothing about it.

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June 08, 2024, 09:46:50 AM
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Freebitcoin.io, your faucet, accused of being a scam. Withdrawal pending for months. THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL 12 months ago.


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June 09, 2024, 03:07:07 AM
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Freebitcoin.io, your faucet, accused of being a scam. Withdrawal pending for months. THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL 12 months ago.



So you're digging into a review from 2023 and don't even know how to read?



So you haven't seen the 3 last words in his review? "Update - Withdrawal Received". Updated within 24 hours of posting this review. You also probably haven't seen our response to that complaint neither.

And yet that is your screenshot you chose to post here.
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June 09, 2024, 03:55:46 AM
Last edit: June 09, 2024, 04:07:51 AM by FinneysTrueVision
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So you're digging into a review from 2023 and don't even know how to read?

So you haven't seen the 3 last words in his review? "Update - Withdrawal Received". Updated within 24 hours of posting this review.


The withdrawal was received only after it was pending for months, not 24 hours, and also after unsuccessfully trying to get support through Twitter and YouTube. People shouldn’t have to jump through so many hoops to have their withdrawal processed.

You also probably haven't seen our response to that complaint neither.

Your response is just a claim, without evidence, that people do win higher prizes. Even if they did, we already know the results are rigged because users are lied to when they are told the faucet is provably fair. Over a year of rolling on 3 sites and that user only won an amount so low that, without gambling a considerable amount, it would take several lifetimes for any user to reach the minimum withdrawal.

And yet that is your screenshot you chose to post here.
Pathetic.

There are plenty of bad reviews to pick from if that one isn’t satisfying enough for you. Many of them calling your website a scam, some users waiting 6 months to receive their withdrawal.

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/freebitcoin.io?languages=all&sort=recency&stars=1

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June 09, 2024, 04:18:45 AM
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The withdrawal was received only after it was pending for months, not 24 hours, and also after unsuccessfully trying to get support through Twitter and YouTube. People shouldn’t have to jump through so many hoops to have their withdrawal processed.

Do you want to speak on our behalf and tell everyone what really happened? You seem to know it all. Try to be a bit more humble with this attitude.

Your response is just a claim, without evidence, that people do win higher prizes. Even if they did, we already know the results are rigged because users are lied to when they are told the faucet is provably fair. Over a year of rolling on 3 sites and that user only won an amount so low that, without gambling a considerable amount, it would take several lifetimes for any user to reach the minimum withdrawal.

That is again wrong, and now let's address these 2 points:

1) Previously, we used Twitter to provide support to our users. However, with time, Twitter didn't allow newly created accounts to send a DM. Tweets were missing and we couldn't go through all tweets because Twitter didn't even show them. It was a mess. We therefore decided to have a proper support system in our sites which is a great system where no user is left stranded. It works great and you can see there aren't any new complaints on these issues. Hint: Stake and many others use the same support system (Intercom), it works great and even works better than emails.

2) The system is provably fair, the fact you or other user hasn't won the jackpot doesn't mean other users or you can't win later on. We used Freebitco.in for years, not even "over a year", and never ever rolled more than the 2 basic prizes. Our system is exactly what they do. The difference is they keep on paying these rolls on a hourly basis (huge mistake), and they have 0 customer support.

Long term what FreeBitco.in is doing is destined to fail because it's unsustainable. As evidence you can see the amounts of complaints piling up.

One more thing:

No one has to gamble in our sites in order to make profits. There is the "Earn More" section, referrals, and free rolls achieved by playing free games or completing free tasks. A new account you create can get on a daily basis easily 7 rolls or more, without using promo codes. With codes it gets to 10+ on average per day.

You don't have to visit the site every hour, you can do it all at once, in less than 10 minutes, and by all means $0.003 (assuming you only get the minimum) on 1 day is $0.09 in a month.

Now check out this post:

https://x.com/cryptosfaucets/status/1799084226169704478

Some coins like BNB went up 54x times, that means your $0.09 is $5, free of charge. 0 Referrals, 0 Offers, no gambling involved. That's just an example, things can always go 100x down where you accumulate more and then 100x more where you gain more. There is risk involved here, for us, not for you.

You know what the difference between what CoinPot did and what we did?

We keep our reserves in the same coin, so if it goes up in value we take the risk, not you the user and we haven't shut down any of our faucets, and we run 20 of them, not just 1.

So yes, you don't like the faucets? We don't expect every user to like these, but claiming you need "several lifetimes" is simply wrong.

Yes, we are far from being perfect, but we are hands on with our support. We don't leave users without answers. We do respond to every single inquiry we get. Where is FreeBitco.in in all this? Dumping their project?

This thread was calling them to change their business model, we want them to succeed, we referred over 120k users to their sites and yet these guys are ticking every single mistake in their book.

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June 09, 2024, 05:53:06 AM
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The system is provably fair, the fact you or other user hasn't won the jackpot doesn't mean other users or you can't win later on. We used Freebitco.in for years, not even "over a year", and never ever rolled more than the 2 basic prizes. Our system is exactly what they do. The difference is they keep on paying these rolls on a hourly basis (huge mistake), and they have 0 customer support.

You either do not know what provably fair means or you are intentionally deceiving users of your sites. It is impossible for anybody to verify whether or not their results were manipulated. There is no server seed hash shown prior to rolling. Users cannot choose their own client seed. In fact, there are no server seeds, client seeds or nonces. It is just a random number generated through some undisclosed method on your server and displayed to users. It is not verifiably fair, we have to trust your word instead that you didn’t manipulate the outcome.

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June 09, 2024, 06:18:11 AM
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The system is provably fair, the fact you or other user hasn't won the jackpot doesn't mean other users or you can't win later on. We used Freebitco.in for years, not even "over a year", and never ever rolled more than the 2 basic prizes. Our system is exactly what they do. The difference is they keep on paying these rolls on a hourly basis (huge mistake), and they have 0 customer support.

You either do not know what provably fair means or you are intentionally deceiving users of your sites. It is impossible for anybody to verify whether or not their results were manipulated. There is no server seed hash shown prior to rolling. Users cannot choose their own client seed. In fact, there are no server seeds, client seeds or nonces. It is just a random number generated through some undisclosed method on your server and displayed to users. It is not verifiably fair, we have to trust your word instead that you didn’t manipulate the outcome.

It's not 100% correct but you're right about having no detailed info on it.
Once again even if you take that scenario, with the very extreme case that is simply not existent but still, let's hypothetically do that, you are still getting rewarded for each and every roll as explained above.

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June 09, 2024, 06:38:03 PM
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Video #2 in the "series" is now available:

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