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March 05, 2024, 06:51:30 AM
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It's more about your luck eventually falling off instead of the pattern becoming useless. Once you experience a good winning run there's always the expected wall of losses that comes right after so no matter what pattern you use luck will always be there to make it useless.
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Luck will be owned by everyone with different levels of luck.
This cannot be determined, but the game system on gambling will affect the luck.

I once got a jackpot on a slot game and the amount was quite large, but when the win was successfully obtained the wall of defeat did look so big,
whatever game strategy I used it would have no effect because the gambling game system had set it up, there would be no more wins after a big win.
In the end, if you force the victory too much, it will only be taken back.

I always apply, when getting the jackpot, stop to play and enjoy the profits.

 
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March 05, 2024, 07:36:13 AM
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You will not find an exact pattern in gambling because the gambling system works randomly, the possibility of winning with the same pattern only works on several wins which can trigger you to increase the amount of bet because you have assumed the potential to get a high win when entering that pattern zone, you will realize The pattern doesn't work after high losses in betting after you have lost the balance of several previous wins.

I say gambling patterns are bad because there is potential for winning but don't focus on gambling to find that pattern, but you should gamble responsibly and gamble just for fun so you won't lose a lot of balance from each different gambling pattern.
That's right because the pattern in gambling will always changes and we will difficult to search it. That's why we must using gambling for fun and just trying to enjoy gambling as an entertainment. We must prevent to increase the amount of bet because that can causing you lose much money and that will increasing your loses when you want to find the pattern.

We must be a responsibly gambler and not focus to find the pattern because that can causes us to gets many problems. We don't knows when we can win but we will see losses more often than win. So we must preventing the big loss by always limits our gambling activity. That's what we must do when we playing gambling so we can enjoy playing gambling.

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March 05, 2024, 03:07:22 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2024, 03:56:16 PM by nara1892
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Yes we are of the same mind. After all there is absolutely no consistency in terms of the results of gambling especially for winnings, everything is random and means that all gamblers will always find one of the two answers at the end of the session such as winning and losing, anyone will never know the results of his gambling. So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that they can have a long-term winning streak in gambling, unless they can show the winning transactions but I think that's too impossible.

The point is that gambling is not a place that can provide anyone with income especially in a long-term streak, because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to always win, and also for the problem of winning is always about the situation of "coincidence" which is clearly not known in advance that the victory will occur. On the other hand, healthy gambling is gambling by balancing the financial situation as you said, such as putting the amount you can afford to lose because this is the best approach if you want to avoid the possibility of bad gambling in the long run.
Gamblers would really be having that never ending search for answers and proofs that their strategies would really be working until they would really be keeping on making those deposits until they would really be losing up that big time. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on how to make yourself that having the control because if you dont then you would really be keeping on pushing until you would really be satisfying yourself whether it would work or not. If it gets busted then you would really be looking for another and the cycle continues.
As long you wont really be making yourself that getting satisfied on the things that you are seeking then you wont really be stopping yourself.

Strategies could really be only applied into those strategic based games on which it would really be requiring that sufficient experience and skills towards it, but somewhat it would really be still that requiring that luck factor for you to be overall be able to win up the game. This is gambling/betting on which it would be still heavily relies on luck. There's no way that you could
be able to control nor influence on how lucky you would be on a particular point.

We must understand that gambling is an activity that cannot be learned, this is not a lesson in school or anything that we can find the point of truth, gambling is very simple which is about winning and losing, but the problem is that gambling has absolutely no certainty whatsoever to actually be able to give you a guarantee that you will be able to win.

In fact, until whenever you will never know the truth, as the OP said that "what works now may not work tomorrow", in the sense that when you manage to get a win with strategy A then it is not necessarily tomorrow you can get another win even by using the same strategy as before, and obviously in such a situation you will definitely try to find other things or other ways such as ways B to Z, which actually have nothing to do at all to realize your hopes. On the other hand yes I agree with you that strategies will only be useful for types of gambling such as sports that require it to consider a team from their track record to make a decision, but yes still in the end luck is always an important thing that determines whether your prediction is correct or misses. But if you apply a strategy to a type of gambling that has no track record then I think your strategy will be useless and it will only waste your time.

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March 05, 2024, 03:10:23 PM
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They are idiots, I happened to know someone who went on the same path, he found a trick on freebitco then and he made some good amount of money, he did informed me about it and I just told him that it won't last long, he decide to skip his night sleep and start using the same trick till the next day.

By the time it's morning, I got his call, he told me how he lost everything, like I saw it coming already, if something works for you when gambling, the first time, second time and third time, it's the game trying to lure you, the trick is making you believe that you find a way and you will probably even risk way more money because you found a way.

This was what happened to my friend, never ever think that you can outsmart any online casinos, even if there is a glitch or some vulnerability in their platform, it won't take long before they find out and fix it, and they will get you good next time even if you are able to withdraw whatever amount you won.
I saw a couple of casino tricks being posted on YouTube last time. Maybe this is where your friend finds it? But he is lucky that those tricks are still working and this could simply mean that they are not fake?

Cool, but it's also possible that your friend is only lucky that time and he thinks he won because of the trick that he is using. With what I said above and also about the glitch or vulnerability that you said, it's not just a lure that have occurred there and the casinos needs to detect and fix them because if not, it is going to be a threat to them but smart people will think of different ways on how can they take advantage of the casinos again.
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March 05, 2024, 03:19:18 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

Some strategies we try don't even work for us right from the beginning, until we are done waiting and trying upon them without any improvement that we release them and embrace into another one, in gambling, some of the things we put in mind that they may work for us don't really go with the way we think about them, and we are not goin to know this until we have a try on them to see for ourself.

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Yes, if any is available, giving a try is never a bad idea, especially when someone is battling with some that have no been profitable over time and needs to try out something new.


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March 05, 2024, 04:07:39 PM
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You will not find an exact pattern in gambling because the gambling system works randomly, the possibility of winning with the same pattern only works on several wins which can trigger you to increase the amount of bet because you have assumed the potential to get a high win when entering that pattern zone, you will realize The pattern doesn't work after high losses in betting after you have lost the balance of several previous wins.

I say gambling patterns are bad because there is potential for winning but don't focus on gambling to find that pattern, but you should gamble responsibly and gamble just for fun so you won't lose a lot of balance from each different gambling pattern.
That's right because the pattern in gambling will always changes and we will difficult to search it. That's why we must using gambling for fun and just trying to enjoy gambling as an entertainment. We must prevent to increase the amount of bet because that can causing you lose much money and that will increasing your loses when you want to find the pattern.

We must be a responsibly gambler and not focus to find the pattern because that can causes us to gets many problems. We don't knows when we can win but we will see losses more often than win. So we must preventing the big loss by always limits our gambling activity. That's what we must do when we playing gambling so we can enjoy playing gambling.

If such patterns were really useful then maybe someone would tell other people and as time goes by more people will definitely succeed in getting big wins or they can even win consistently in gambling, but in fact that doesn't happen. and in reality it is still the same in the sense that the number of gamblers who experience more losses than wins still dominates. For me, methods like that will not be useful in gambling because I always emphasize to myself that no matter what, the house will always be the winner, in the sense that if you do 10 sessions then maybe the only win you can get is 1-3 sessions and the rest you lose. and if you calculate it, it is clear that the number of losses is always greater.

So simply put, don't push too hard on something that basically doesn't make sense and is beyond your abilities, logically not many casinos would be able to survive if gamblers had accurate ways such as patterns to win. So it's better to gamble without thinking about anything in particular like how to win, and it's better to focus on risk management, by placing all limits. Treating gambling as a fun activity when you have a boring time is better than taking it too seriously in a place that is only based on "probability".

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March 05, 2024, 04:16:24 PM
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It's not surprising to see people looking for patterns though. It's been that way since even the people who have been playing dice since the early days of Bitcoin casinos were looking for patterns in the dice results.

Well, I came to know something interesting about these patterns in gambling. Some of the gamblers if found a winning pattern in gambling, they tell to their friends and they start to follow the similar pattern. They win or loss is a separate thing but we need to understand that there is nothing like pattern winning in gambling.
Gambling is luck based and those who are looking for a pattern or even selling their services to tell a winning gambling pattern are just making fool of the innocent gamblers.


I also play Mine Sweeper. I always have a lucky point where I wanna start every time which I find it as my pattern to follow. If you start in the middle, then it's the pattern you follow.

Have you won always with any pattern? I don't think this is possible and the gambling algorithm will always detect that a gambler is wining by taking the same moves again and again and the gambler may not get the same winning pattern.

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They are idiots, I happened to know someone who went on the same path, he found a trick on freebitco then and he made some good amount of money, he did informed me about it and I just told him that it won't last long, he decide to skip his night sleep and start using the same trick till the next day.

By the time it's morning, I got his call, he told me how he lost everything, like I saw it coming already, if something works for you when gambling, the first time, second time and third time, it's the game trying to lure you, the trick is making you believe that you find a way and you will probably even risk way more money because you found a way.

This was what happened to my friend, never ever think that you can outsmart any online casinos, even if there is a glitch or some vulnerability in their platform, it won't take long before they find out and fix it, and they will get you good next time even if you are able to withdraw whatever amount you won.
I saw a couple of casino tricks being posted on YouTube last time. Maybe this is where your friend finds it? But he is lucky that those tricks are still working and this could simply mean that they are not fake?

Cool, but it's also possible that your friend is only lucky that time and he thinks he won because of the trick that he is using. With what I said above and also about the glitch or vulnerability that you said, it's not just a lure that have occurred there and the casinos needs to detect and fix them because if not, it is going to be a threat to them but smart people will think of different ways on how can they take advantage of the casinos again.
His friend was so greedy that he wanted to empty the casino's funds overnight, but he didn't know, that as he is playing with the trick and winning, it will call to the attention of the casino to know why he is winning with the same pattern, which will make them to notice that there id a glitch and it will be fixed.

Most times when we win three straight games, we will feel that, the pattern that we used id superb, and we will want to stake with a bog amount of money with confidence, and this will make us run at loss, because we were only lucky to win those three games, and it was not based on any pattern that we used.

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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I think there really is no pattern in casinos. I don't know why people like to look for winning patterns and claim that they are real just because he won several times gambling because of that pattern. Do casinos really have patterns in their algorithms? I do not think so. As far as I know, the algorithm system in casinos provides a probability of winning or losing and several other settings to make the game fun and enjoyable. So those who brag about winning patterns I think cannot be trusted. I prefer to play without paying attention to certain patterns because it will waste your time.

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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.
Following a pattern in luck based games is not sustainable because the games are designed in such a way that they switch patters after some serious of sets. The pattern may repeat but when it will change is what is not known. What I do is to continue playing the pattern until it changes and when it does, I will take a short break, watch two or three sets to see if I can spot a pattern again they I continue gambling. This gives me better results than just gambling without direction.

I don't gamble expecting to win every set because I know it is not possible. My target is just to win more than I lose and also allow the multiplier do the magic. This way, a few losses will not take me out of business.

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
Like I explained before, I look for patterns even in luck based games but I do not expect the patters to last forever because they don't. I do find out that the patterns changed and that is welcome because I already made plans for such changes.











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March 05, 2024, 09:04:22 PM
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I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Betting platforms are smart most especially when you win a big amount. In the betting platform that I used in betting, when they noticed that you win a grand win, they don't credit you immediately. They review the games you played and if they find out that you didn't have any problem they clear but after that, they adjust their lower line and to make predictions more hard or if your options were easy, they will give you a smaller odd that will not give you much return even if you accumulate them as multiple bet. This is the same with casino but the concept is different and that's why similar games don't win but in cases where the amount you win is not large, they don't lower odd lines.

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And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.


There might be a pattern that will work not for bettors, but for the casino. It would be a no-brainer for a casino to put a certain pattern that will let the players win everytime they figure this thing out, so there is no way in hell there could be one, most especially to a pure luck based game. If anything like that, it is always the casino who definitely got the pattern to take a win from most of the gamblers at the end of the day.
Though, I'm not gonna deny that I was once looking for such pattern before, when I was younger, until I realized no it's not possible. However, the only patter that I could think that's possible, is to know when and how will that machine gives us the perfect time to get most of the win.

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That's right. Just like "if we are lucky today, it is possible we are unlucky by tomorrow" and that is because our strategies are not effective or the pattern has changed.

There is a simple thing that we need to understand --there is no mathematical calculation in gambling but instead, it is totally about luck. Of course, having knowledge is helpful but not the assurance of winning, if we are lucky, we could win but if not, we don't need to blame someone for manipulating results as we are truly unlucky that day.
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If such patterns were really useful then maybe someone would tell other people and as time goes by more people will definitely succeed in getting big wins or they can even win consistently in gambling, but in fact that doesn't happen. and in reality it is still the same in the sense that the number of gamblers who experience more losses than wins still dominates. For me, methods like that will not be useful in gambling because I always emphasize to myself that no matter what, the house will always be the winner, in the sense that if you do 10 sessions then maybe the only win you can get is 1-3 sessions and the rest you lose. and if you calculate it, it is clear that the number of losses is always greater.

So simply put, don't push too hard on something that basically doesn't make sense and is beyond your abilities, logically not many casinos would be able to survive if gamblers had accurate ways such as patterns to win. So it's better to gamble without thinking about anything in particular like how to win, and it's better to focus on risk management, by placing all limits. Treating gambling as a fun activity when you have a boring time is better than taking it too seriously in a place that is only based on "probability".
People who knows about the pattern will use it for themselves before they will tell other people. They will try to win as much money as they can and after they hard to win, they will give the pattern secret to other people because they see the pattern is change. But it's true that many gamblers already lose their money playing gambling and difficult to recover their money although they are trying so hard more than before. I think we don't have to try to find the pattern and just let it comes to ourselves when we playing gambling. Besides that, we playing gambling because we want to enjoy the gambling games using some money with limitations so we don't gets any trouble playing gambling games.

We don't have to force ourselves playing gambling too serious, especially we already have seen many gamblers lose their money playing gambling. That will be our real sample for us so we will always take care ourselves when playing gambling because we don't want to gets more losses. We don't have to think about the pattern and lets focus to enjoy the gambling games and always use limits to prevent to big lose.

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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
No, I never try to find or use patterns when I'm playing luck-based games because I know they don't work since you can't make a pattern change your luck, and gambling games are only luck-based.

However, I do have relatives that think this way. One guy once told me that he understood a pattern in a game that he played and he could know what the outcome of the next round would be after watching the previous bets and their results, but he would still lose even after trying that pattern and what's amusing is he still didn't realize that his patterns aren't working for him and he still used to use those patterns.
I never do these things, I play casino games when I want to have some fun.

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March 06, 2024, 11:05:29 PM
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If such patterns were really useful then maybe someone would tell other people and as time goes by more people will definitely succeed in getting big wins or they can even win consistently in gambling, but in fact that doesn't happen. and in reality it is still the same in the sense that the number of gamblers who experience more losses than wins still dominates. For me, methods like that will not be useful in gambling because I always emphasize to myself that no matter what, the house will always be the winner, in the sense that if you do 10 sessions then maybe the only win you can get is 1-3 sessions and the rest you lose. and if you calculate it, it is clear that the number of losses is always greater.

So simply put, don't push too hard on something that basically doesn't make sense and is beyond your abilities, logically not many casinos would be able to survive if gamblers had accurate ways such as patterns to win. So it's better to gamble without thinking about anything in particular like how to win, and it's better to focus on risk management, by placing all limits. Treating gambling as a fun activity when you have a boring time is better than taking it too seriously in a place that is only based on "probability".
People who knows about the pattern will use it for themselves before they will tell other people. They will try to win as much money as they can and after they hard to win, they will give the pattern secret to other people because they see the pattern is change. But it's true that many gamblers already lose their money playing gambling and difficult to recover their money although they are trying so hard more than before. I think we don't have to try to find the pattern and just let it comes to ourselves when we playing gambling. Besides that, we playing gambling because we want to enjoy the gambling games using some money with limitations so we don't gets any trouble playing gambling games.

We don't have to force ourselves playing gambling too serious, especially we already have seen many gamblers lose their money playing gambling. That will be our real sample for us so we will always take care ourselves when playing gambling because we don't want to gets more losses. We don't have to think about the pattern and lets focus to enjoy the gambling games and always use limits to prevent to big lose.

It is true, and it is certain that the person is the richest person in the world because he has a way or pattern to get a lot of winnings, but the fact is that so far I have never seen or heard that there are gamblers who can successfully turn their fortunes into rich people just by gambling, on the other hand I would be able to say that you can become a rich person in gambling if you are basically the owner of one of the casinos. But we can't rule out the fact that most gamblers still suffer from a lot of dominating losses.

On the other hand, it is a fact that when you have lost money in gambling, it is very difficult to get back something that has been lost even though you have done whatever you think is useful. So yes of course there is no need to push too much for victory in gambling because after all everything always depends on how lucky you are in running the session, meaning that you will only be able to win when you are really lucky, and it is better for us to focus on enjoying gambling rather than focusing too much on winning which is actually beyond our control, and yes as you said and it is true that many gamblers have lost significant amounts when they try to chase victory and we can make an example so that we can be more careful and vigilant.

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March 06, 2024, 11:17:08 PM
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And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Not looking for a new pattern as just by betting, it will just pop out of nowhere. It now depends if we will use it in the long run.

In my personal experience, whenever I have my own created pattern, I will use it on several occasions, and as long as it continues to give me wins, I will stick to it. If I feel that the pattern I'm following seems effective now, I will skip on using it. But that said patterns won't be forgotten, I still consider using those as part of a test.

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March 07, 2024, 04:06:55 AM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
No, I never try to find or use patterns when I'm playing luck-based games because I know they don't work since you can't make a pattern change your luck, and gambling games are only luck-based.

However, I do have relatives that think this way. One guy once told me that he understood a pattern in a game that he played and he could know what the outcome of the next round would be after watching the previous bets and their results, but he would still lose even after trying that pattern and what's amusing is he still didn't realize that his patterns aren't working for him and he still used to use those patterns.
I never do these things, I play casino games when I want to have some fun.
Rightly said, it is very difficult to understand the gambling instructions. Gambling patterns vary according to type because all instructions are not the same. Betting is not the easiest way to make money. Betting has several advantages such as having an additional source of income the ability to gamble at flexible times and making independent decisions. Although betting can transform one's life for the better its pitfalls must be learned. Common risks include the possibility of losing everything high and low and lack of a break.

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March 07, 2024, 05:17:06 AM
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No, I never try to find or use patterns when I'm playing luck-based games because I know they don't work since you can't make a pattern change your luck, and gambling games are only luck-based.

However, I do have relatives that think this way. One guy once told me that he understood a pattern in a game that he played and he could know what the outcome of the next round would be after watching the previous bets and their results, but he would still lose even after trying that pattern and what's amusing is he still didn't realize that his patterns aren't working for him and he still used to use those patterns.
I never do these things, I play casino games when I want to have some fun.
Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.

If someone can analyze and according to them this is true and when we see them try this and it doesn't work and still use that pattern of course the things they do are very silly and it would be better for them to be able to enjoy every game they bet on and if they win then it is good and if they lose they have gained pleasure in the game they played.
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March 07, 2024, 05:32:31 AM
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No, I never try to find or use patterns when I'm playing luck-based games because I know they don't work since you can't make a pattern change your luck, and gambling games are only luck-based.

However, I do have relatives that think this way. One guy once told me that he understood a pattern in a game that he played and he could know what the outcome of the next round would be after watching the previous bets and their results, but he would still lose even after trying that pattern and what's amusing is he still didn't realize that his patterns aren't working for him and he still used to use those patterns.
I never do these things, I play casino games when I want to have some fun.

I agree with you, there is indeed a recommended pattern for winning, but this pattern cannot guarantee that you will be able to win in luck-based gambling. Also, patterns cannot change the portion of our luck, if we don't have luck in gambling then we won't be able to win even if we use the pattern that is said to be able to win. and indeed there are some people who believe that patterns can make them win, besides, in my opinion, when gambling using patterns and winning, it's just because they're lucky, if patterns can guarantee a win then there are many gamblers who are not stupid, of course they will use them. This pattern is to be able to win, but in reality it is not like that.

Winning using this pattern is possible, but when you gamble again using the same pattern, I'm sure the results will not be the same, especially with gambling that only depends on luck. We can win if we are lucky. What we have to be careful about is not to have more hope in gambling, because having more hope sometimes makes us trapped in a cycle of gambling addiction. and of course with a gambling addiction it will cause a lot of problems.

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