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July 05, 2024, 10:11:56 AM
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If you are gambling for fun, I don't think that you should stress yourself with looking for strategies that you will use to win your bet. Whatever will be the outcome of your bet will still be even if you use a new strategy.
I would not call strategic gambling fun, having a strategy is being creative and when I'm having fun, I even get more and more creative in order to entertain myself properly if possible, and lest I forget, when gambling and one pattern is not working right for you, its human to try crafting something else to see if your luck will shine. In all you need a gambling budget so you don't spice things up too much and hurt yourself.
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Playing gambling is for fun, not for other else so we don't have to experience lose much money. Many people already lose their money but they don't wants to realizes about that and still trying to win. Maybe they can wins today, but they can't win many times in other days so that is why they must realizes that gambling is just for fun and not for wins the games. We don't knows what pattern that will always work when playing gambling because gambling can not predicted and we can lose our money anytime. If we care with our money, we must always limits and not spends too much money so we don't have to regrets our lose in gambling. We can not always make a strategy that helps us to wins because we don't know when we will wins so we can only playing gambling for have fun.

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July 05, 2024, 10:37:40 AM
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Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration
surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on

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July 05, 2024, 11:26:02 AM
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Seems that you are contradicting yourself here how you made your statement but I believe what you meant here is that - you don't need to try looking for patterns because you won't be able to beat the house edge. And I am on this side because you are playing a luck-based game, no matter what strategy you will deploy - martingale, d'alembert's principle and more, luck is always in play aside from the house edge. The strategy may work for a time, but it doesn't mean it will always work for you.
A house edge seems different from being a luck-based game and even on a non-luck based game, house edge still exists and yeah, there is no way to dodge them. I think winning or losing, a casino can still get a cut in each of our bets (or so called " house edge "). In gambling, there are times that we are winning but it doesn't mean that what made us win are the strategy that we are using.

I am only referring on the game of luck here, since this is still our topic and I think strategies can still matter on a game of skill, even by just a little only. Using strategies in a game of luck like the ones you mentioned there can in fact deplete our balances quickly, so we must beware of them.

Of course, games of luck are only meant for gamblers and do not include casinos that have games, meaning that if a gambler wants to win then they have to wait for luck to come, but for casinos they will definitely always make a profit every time, because in gambling it is not only one or two people bet, of course there will always be some gamblers who lose and some who win at the same time, but usually there are more losers than winners and it is the losses that give the casino an advantage.

On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

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July 05, 2024, 11:55:37 AM
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July 05, 2024, 11:57:53 AM
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On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

Of course, luck plays important role in gambling but the power of strategy should not be underestimated. These two factors go hand in hand with gambling to guarantee winning. It’s just like a situation where two people intend to gamble and one has a plan to help him win while the other one solely relies on pure luck. It’s possible for the latter to win but in most cases, the former has higher chances because of the plans he employs. In as much as gambling is mostly based on luck, you need a strategy to increase your chance of winning. Luck will be avoiding you if you don’t make use of any strategy.

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July 05, 2024, 12:40:29 PM
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On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

Of course, luck plays important role in gambling but the power of strategy should not be underestimated. These two factors go hand in hand with gambling to guarantee winning. It’s just like a situation where two people intend to gamble and one has a plan to help him win while the other one solely relies on pure luck. It’s possible for the latter to win but in most cases, the former has higher chances because of the plans he employs. In as much as gambling is mostly based on luck, you need a strategy to increase your chance of winning. Luck will be avoiding you if you don’t make use of any strategy.
Indeed, there are gamblers who have a strategy that is believed to be able to produce a definite win, unfortunately not all types of gambling are based on a strategy to win, because there are types of gambling that do not require a strategy at all to win because they are based on pure luck alone. It does depend on luck, but there are gamblers who are still confident that the strategy they have found can result in winning. Even though the first party has a higher chance, that cannot be guaranteed. What's more, luck still has a big role in gambling. The strategy you have doesn't guarantee you can win because it only increases your chances of winning. The rest depends on whether luck will be on your side or not. . with those who managed to win today because with the strategy they have, it is not certain that they will be able to win again at gambling another day using the same strategy. and I think this is true because luck plays a role in gambling in determining whether the gambling we do will succeed in winning or not.

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July 05, 2024, 03:09:19 PM
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Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration
surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on
In contrast to you, exploration should necessarily be maintained at a young age because this is the golden time when you collapse and build the first foundations in your mind, no need for a clear result, simply you have lived and followed a model that you discovered, a path that you built and you dared to stand on that path. The benefit doesn't stay in the moment you build, it stays in the future, we can even throw away the original path when the endpoint is wrong with the calculation, in such a way, when we get old, we no longer have meaningless thoughts of exploration

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July 05, 2024, 03:30:24 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore.
I'm sure everyone here, especially those who gamble, have found patterns of luck in gambling, whether in slot games, Roulette, poker, dice and so on, that luck never comes a second time, What's more, the third and fourth and so on, any type of gambling is fully controlled by the operator, this is proven by investigators' confessions from several online gambling cases that were caught.

I really understand that pattern, once I get a lucky pattern I don't waste it, at that time I have to do my best and never repeat it a second time tomorrow, It's clear the second time it's a real trap to drain all the bets placed, no matter friends say try again, there will definitely be luck again, no, once is enough.

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July 05, 2024, 04:10:44 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore.
I'm sure everyone here, especially those who gamble, have found patterns of luck in gambling, whether in slot games, Roulette, poker, dice and so on, that luck never comes a second time, What's more, the third and fourth and so on, any type of gambling is fully controlled by the operator, this is proven by investigators' confessions from several online gambling cases that were caught.

You don't understand anything. To begin with, the assumed patterns are nothing more than projections that we make on the series of mathematical events in an attempt to establish regularity. The operator does not control anything (I am talking about honest casinos) and besides there is an essential distinction between poker (PvP) and the rest of casino games, because in poker there is no House Edge. The dealing of cards from the deck, or in casino games the results of the roulette numbers are completely random. The casino does not need to control anything to make money. By simply setting up a random system it makes money on the House Edge. The casino game player who thinks he has found a pattern has had a couple or three times a series of results that seem similar to him and from there he goes on to establish conclusions, such as that if he has lost 20 consecutive spins and doubles the bet he will get a prize. But these patterns of similar events are completely normal in the random statistical distribution and have nothing to do with a regularity or a pattern.

Although I don't know why I go to such lengths to explain this because I doubt you will understand it.

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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.
Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.
Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

Yes, that's right, that's why from the start we have to understand that gambling is an activity that depends on luck, or that means anyone will only be able to win when luck comes at the right time, and regarding patterns or strategies, it's actually nothing more than something that can only help. get yourself closer to winning, especially when you bet on a type of sports betting that has statistics that can be analyzed, but in the end it is still unlikely for a gambler to win in a row, and I think there are many incidents that we can use as proof. that when someone uses greed to get more money, or when someone gambles too often then what usually happens is that they lose more money than they win. And this is also the reason why excessive actions are always prohibited in gambling.

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July 05, 2024, 06:17:22 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.
Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm
I didn't read OP advising his friends to gamble, OP only advised his friends who is new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games.
And that advice is good, because there is no such thing as a pattern - Believing in pattern is a gambler's fallacy, and making decisions/bets based on past results will only make us even more curious when we lose and careless when winning.

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Of course, games of luck are only meant for gamblers and do not include casinos that have games, meaning that if a gambler wants to win then they have to wait for luck to come, but for casinos they will definitely always make a profit every time, because in gambling it is not only one or two people bet, of course there will always be some gamblers who lose and some who win at the same time, but usually there are more losers than winners and it is the losses that give the casino an advantage.

On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.
Like junkies, we hunt that dopamine rush believing we are tugging the strings. Actually, we are all simply moving to Lady Luck's music. Look at those flashing lights; the dinging sounds; all designed to fool us into believing we are in charge. It's like those self-help gurus selling you the keys to the universe when it's really snake oil. The worst part is that in life too we are all running after that high, that illusion of success.  Pursuing money, celebrity, relationships...we believe we are masters of our own fate whereas, in fact, it is just a throw of the dice. It's both hilarious and tragic, how we cling to this idea of control in a chaotic existence

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Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration
surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on
Most times laziness makes people not to work and find real money, they thought that gamble is the easiest way to earn money without any stress, but to be frank gamble is more stressful than real job, my reasons is because as a person who is planning to earn a living from gamble you will dedicate more time to gamble as you will need concentration in other to predict the results of the games 100% or 99% accurate. However, there is nothing like 100% accurate in gamble when the results is not yet decided. Most times sport games are been postponed or cancelled and the potential money you would have gotten will either reduce or will not be decided until the game that was postponed kick off.

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July 05, 2024, 06:30:14 PM
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And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
There is no pattern to winning games when you are gambling, if people could actually find patterns, then they would run the bookmakers out of business. Even when you think you have found a pattern, it is nothing but superstitious beliefs, because if you were actually certain, you'd have wagered with all the money you have and even taken loans to do so.

I don't try to look out for patterns, i am honest enough to understand that most of the time, luck is the most important factor in gambling, so i do not think too much about things, i just gamble.

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simply betting on your favorite team will not always bring profit. Sometimes the opponent can be much better and more serious. It is stupid to bet only on your favorite club just because you are a big fan of it.
Yes, it's just stupidity to bet on your favorite team when you know that they're not going to win because a stronger team can always win a weak one and if your favorite team is the weak one then you should either not place any bet in that match in order to show your support for your team or bet in favor of the team that stronger if you're looking to win the bet.

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At a long distance, no patterns work as casinos/bookmakers quickly identify them (thanks to progress and big data) and stop them. Once upon a time, memorizing cards worked in blackjack, once on sure bets worked in betting on sporting events, then betting against the favorite seemed to work. And many other things worked that I don’t know about, but sooner or later the casinos/bookmakers also found this weak point and corrected it. In order to find working patterns in modern conditions, you have to be either very lucky or very persistent, I don’t even know if it’s possible to do this on purpose.

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July 05, 2024, 06:42:58 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.
Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

Even if the gambler will find a strategy that will be profitable in the long term, the analytical department of the casino quickly enough to find a hole in the system and patch it. The system should work to encourage the gambler, but not so much that it brings losses to the casino. Gambling is a zero-sum game so it is not so difficult to figure out which player is using the gap in the system. Therefore, professional gamblers are often forced to re-register at gambling sites because even they attract the attention of the security system.

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July 05, 2024, 06:43:13 PM
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At a long distance, no patterns work as casinos/bookmakers quickly identify them (thanks to progress and big data) and stop them. Once upon a time, memorizing cards worked in blackjack, once on sure bets worked in betting on sporting events, then betting against the favorite seemed to work. And many other things worked that I don’t know about, but sooner or later the casinos/bookmakers also found this weak point and corrected it. In order to find working patterns in modern conditions, you have to be either very lucky or very persistent, I don’t even know if it’s possible to do this on purpose.
If there is a strategy to win at casino, that means the casino will not be in business because as a revenue oriented business like casino it means the only thing that permitted is the house edge and every other things will be based on luck, and as long as casinos are concerned a gambler will never win over the house consistently.

But the luck can be on your side frequently most especially in games like sport bets which allows for some analysis before placing the bet.

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July 05, 2024, 06:51:47 PM
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Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration
surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

To be honest I don't believe in patterns in gambling. But in the end people will still look for patterns and they enjoy it. People who look for patterns and think it will give them victory are ridiculous. Because if the pattern really exists then everyone will know about it and the bookie will go bankrupt. In gambling, patterns are random and no one knows because the system has been designed that way. Only luck will give you victory. But to be honest, I don't believe that patterns and slots will give you victory. In my opinion, victory in gambling is when you make a withdrawal.

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