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July 06, 2024, 04:36:49 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.



No pattern or strategy will work in the long run because afterall, you also have already realized that the house edge will be in play. Therefore, whatever pattern you have it only works for a few moments, even if in thefuture you use the same  pattern and then win. But the truth is that you will not be able to get the sameamount of winnings as before. Therefore,the reason about gambling is only about the game of luck, because as you said, that the house edge is played and thatmakes it difficult for you to get a win in the same way,and you will only win when you are lucky.

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July 06, 2024, 04:48:08 PM
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I think that it is either impossible to find patterns in gambling, or close to impossible. What worked today and yesterday will not work tomorrow. This is a complete coincidence. If any pattern could be deduced, then with the advent of Artificial Intelligence this pattern could be detected even more easily. After all, AI can figure out everything much faster than a human, even the smartest one. In general, I believe that you should play in a casino for fun only and not look for patterns that most likely do not exist there.
It's impossible due to the house edge. If patterns in gambling existed, they would be discovered sooner or later by one or another gambler (or even by the AI, as you said), who would share his discovery with the rest of gambling community, so everyone would be reproducing the same pattern and making continuous and certain profit in a frequently basis. As consequence, casinos would start losing money on long run, unable to maintain their businesses alive.

If such patterns existed, they would completely ruin gambling's industry as we know today. It would mean the end of centralized casinos, forcing gamblers to bet only through P2P method, if they wished to continue practing the activity.

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July 06, 2024, 04:57:53 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

No pattern or strategy will work in the long run because afterall, you also have already realized that the house edge will be in play. Therefore, whatever pattern you have it only works for a few moments, even if in thefuture you use the same  pattern and then win. But the truth is that you will not be able to get the sameamount of winnings as before. Therefore,the reason about gambling is only about the game of luck, because as you said, that the house edge is played and thatmakes it difficult for you to get a win in the same way,and you will only win when you are lucky.

Of course, and that's the real fact, in the sense that a strategy or pattern might help us in terms of improving or getting closer to winning, especially when we bet on types of sports games that have statistical data for analysis, but yes, however, as you said that this strategy will not have an effect in the long term, it will only help occasionally, especially when luck comes at the right time to complement the strategy you use to ensure victory.

However, in any type of game called gambling, it is still gambling which will always lead to one of two possibilities, namely winning or losing, meaning that no matter how good the strategy you have, there will always be times for you to experience defeat at times. certain things, and I think that's natural because after all gambling is a casino business that operates behind the "chance of winning" and it is clear that in any case the name of business definitely prioritizes profit, and the casino is a loss for the gamblers as a profit for them, and this is the reason why various actions being impulsive or aggressive or excessive is always prohibited, because there will be no certainty in activities that depend on luck.

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July 06, 2024, 07:05:47 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..
Yes of course, I usually use a pattern that worked for me, someday it will work, and will not workout somedays too. I have tried several patterns which includes the single betting pattern,the multiple pattern and the flex patter that if I select 10 games and 1 or 2 cuts I will still be paid. Even as that, some weeks a particular pattern will works true out that period and it will be a win win and after some times it will not work, so I will have to switch again. Sometimes all pattern will not work.

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Enjoy it while it last, there are pattern or strategy that may work for you for some time but later on alone the line it might not be working,I usually

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July 06, 2024, 07:08:23 PM
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I never try to find patterns in luck-based games, because it's quite difficult and still depends on luck in the end, I myself without getting a pattern can get a victory.

I was a person who when I was trading and playing in a casino did not believe in patterns, but now with the things I have read in trading, in games of chance, sometimes patterns do come true and it is a fact that things can happen in favor of doing something well and that they work, for example, in trading I had never traded binary options, well there patterns come true, and in games like dice, I have realized that sometimes patterns come true, so you don't have to close yourself off , sometimes the system I imagine has all kinds of events programmed to test our luck.

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July 06, 2024, 07:21:39 PM
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And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Enjoy it while it last, there are pattern or strategy that may work for you for some time but later on alone the line it might not be working, i usually based my strategy on baking on either home or away to win or draw on clubs that I knew they could either they win or the game will end in a draw game, it really worked for some time but at a point it wasn't . However, the best I could go now is strategizing on different options  (mixture of different options in one slip ), the truth has always been that when luck is not on your side irrespective of pattern you can not have a potential winning. Gambling really has to do alot with Play what you think is your best option and wait for luck to catch up with you.

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July 06, 2024, 07:44:53 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
I tried to find something like this in the early days of gambling but the thing is that there is no pattern in gambling that I can follow for sure win. Moreover, those who think of martingale theory as an advantage may also be foolish. Because we all know how bad things can get if we lose two or four games in a row. In luck based games I rely on luck. Moreover, sports betting now requires luck because anything can happen, win or lose. Those who, after gambling, think that certain patterns are likely to produce good results will never be profitable in gambling. We cannot consider gambling a profitable business or a source of income, regardless of the strategy a gambler uses.

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July 06, 2024, 07:56:54 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.



on a normal day when it comes to gambling it desire strategy because without strategy you can't get more winning in gambler, so I think your friend discovered a way out for him to get some winning but not knowing that while you got one pattern you shouldn't relie on one. But still look out for more strategies and patten the one you use today might not work in the next day, don't blame him and we all know that gambling is all about luck and getting the right pattern so that you can win.
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July 06, 2024, 08:22:01 PM
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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.
I tried to find something like this in the early days of gambling but the thing is that there is no pattern in gambling that I can follow for sure win. Moreover, those who think of martingale theory as an advantage may also be foolish. Because we all know how bad things can get if we lose two or four games in a row. In luck based games I rely on luck. Moreover, sports betting now requires luck because anything can happen, win or lose. Those who, after gambling, think that certain patterns are likely to produce good results will never be profitable in gambling. We cannot consider gambling a profitable business or a source of income, regardless of the strategy a gambler uses.
If you are just that your first time or simply being a noob then you would really be definitely be having that kind mindset and beliefs into your mind that there would really be those strategies
which gives out that guaranteed win. On the moment that you do find yourself having that kind mindset and on the moment that you do find  yourself on a tough situation
then you would really be making those kind of realizations along the way on which it would really be just that something normal. It is why it would really be that best that
having those realizations on early phase so that you wont really be ending up on having that delusional mind that you do believe that you could beat up the system or simply with gambling.
Also, finding yourself having those working strategies will really be just that making you desperate.

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I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..
When you are gambling and you have a particular strategy that is working for you and you are making money, don’t think it’s going to be forever or for a long time,  just take advantage of the strategy and make your money. If it stops working, then you have to upgrade the strategy, but if you fully depend on a strategy and you fully depend on a strategy and it stops working, you will be disappointed and frustrated and might end up gambling even when you are not supposed to gamble, and you are going to lose more, so we should have it in mind that any strategy can stop working at any moment.

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When you are gambling and you have a particular strategy that is working for you and you are making money, don’t think it’s going to be forever or for a long time,  just take advantage of the strategy and make your money. If it stops working, then you have to upgrade the strategy, but if you fully depend on a strategy and you fully depend on a strategy and it stops working, you will be disappointed and frustrated and might end up gambling even when you are not supposed to gamble, and you are going to lose more, so we should have it in mind that any strategy can stop working at any moment.
The thing is, what type of casino games or sportbook in general do you think the op is referring to??... The reason for my question is that in sport virtuals, strategies to any winning doesn't exceed two tries minimum, one of which doesn't happen in a row...  Where did you get your illustration from ?

I wanna end it like this -- whatever strategy you realize on the long run, doesn't last a single day in casino games.. mostimes, I'd prefer going with random predictions as the odds are bigger, but the possibility of having a win is slim..
I was a person who when I was trading and playing in a casino did not believe in patterns, but now with the things I have read in trading, in games of chance, sometimes patterns do come true[...]
The problem is, how are you supposed to knen when it repeats itself?... How exactly is that possible?

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I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..
When you are gambling and you have a particular strategy that is working for you and you are making money, don’t think it’s going to be forever or for a long time,  just take advantage of the strategy and make your money. If it stops working, then you have to upgrade the strategy, but if you fully depend on a strategy and you fully depend on a strategy and it stops working, you will be disappointed and frustrated and might end up gambling even when you are not supposed to gamble, and you are going to lose more, so we should have it in mind that any strategy can stop working at any moment.

I have never seen any strategy that actually guarantees wins in gambling. The only working strategy has to deal with discipline, self-control and money management. These are the right gambling strategies. Nothing else works out for gamblers other than these methods. Because most times players fail to understand that using a trick on the casino could work for few times and stop. And most often it doesn't work. The moment a gambler begin to worry over his failed strategy be could start moving from method to another hoping on changes. Not realizing that what works for a player wouldn't for another. Hence, everyone should work on their playing strategies, maybe upgrade as you suggested.

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July 06, 2024, 10:39:46 PM
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I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..
When you are gambling and you have a particular strategy that is working for you and you are making money, don’t think it’s going to be forever or for a long time,  just take advantage of the strategy and make your money. If it stops working, then you have to upgrade the strategy, but if you fully depend on a strategy and you fully depend on a strategy and it stops working, you will be disappointed and frustrated and might end up gambling even when you are not supposed to gamble, and you are going to lose more, so we should have it in mind that any strategy can stop working at any moment.

I have never seen any strategy that actually guarantees wins in gambling. The only working strategy has to deal with discipline, self-control and money management. These are the right gambling strategies. Nothing else works out for gamblers other than these methods. Because most times players fail to understand that using a trick on the casino could work for few times and stop. And most often it doesn't work. The moment a gambler begin to worry over his failed strategy be could start moving from method to another hoping on changes. Not realizing that what works for a player wouldn't for another. Hence, everyone should work on their playing strategies, maybe upgrade as you suggested.

Yes, those factors affects the outcome of your session, with you knowing your set limitations and wisely using the luck that comes up will allow you to  generate profits, you need to understand that most of your time inside gambling leads to lose your money, and if you don't know how to use your luck the right it will always the house that will win against you, no strategy will always bring you the bacon, but if chance shows you that luck is backing you up, better to make that hard stop then quit while you still have decent amount of wins.

Just how you said it, the moment you think that you need to change to another strategy the time that the house is winning inside you, that kind of emotion will leads you to be more aggressive and if you push forward, mostly you will lose all your money.

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July 06, 2024, 11:01:28 PM
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I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..
When you are gambling and you have a particular strategy that is working for you and you are making money, don’t think it’s going to be forever or for a long time,  just take advantage of the strategy and make your money. If it stops working, then you have to upgrade the strategy, but if you fully depend on a strategy and you fully depend on a strategy and it stops working, you will be disappointed and frustrated and might end up gambling even when you are not supposed to gamble, and you are going to lose more, so we should have it in mind that any strategy can stop working at any moment.

I have never seen any strategy that actually guarantees wins in gambling. The only working strategy has to deal with discipline, self-control and money management. These are the right gambling strategies. Nothing else works out for gamblers other than these methods. Because most times players fail to understand that using a trick on the casino could work for few times and stop. And most often it doesn't work. The moment a gambler begin to worry over his failed strategy be could start moving from method to another hoping on changes. Not realizing that what works for a player wouldn't for another. Hence, everyone should work on their playing strategies, maybe upgrade as you suggested.
Yeah you are very correct mate, I have this friend of mine who keeps bragging about how he actually found a way to win on one particular game in this casino @peripesa and he wouldn't stop talking about it and tried as much as he can to lure me into the particular style of technique he is using but some reason I just felt that there is absolutely no way this can be working for long and as I speculated the technique stopped working and he lost almost twice of what he actually won before and this is due to the fact that he lost the one true technique which is self control and discipline.

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July 06, 2024, 11:03:18 PM
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I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

Assuming it works out by the method or gambling pattern we use, or the kind of game played, then this could have been more centralized because people will afford
making use of a particular method or strategy for their gambling, and as the title already clarifies all, that what works now may not by tomorrow clearly explain the remaining onnthis aspect for using a particular strategy in gambling.

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

Yes I do, even though I know everything will not last in that regard, they are only temporal.

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July 07, 2024, 07:09:48 AM
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That's right.
There are no patterns. Even the known martingale in the past is not being talked about anymore. What most gamblers do now is rely on their chances.


Nope, they do exist in some cases. Read the documented story of Richard Jarecki who beat roulette by recognizing its patterns. There are a number  of similar stories, just DYOR.

As I said in my previous post patterns may arise in nonequilibrium  dissipative system that has the ability of entropy production, otherwise the time would be reversible. “The irreversibility of time is the mechanism that brings order out of chaos.” ©,  Ilya Prigogine

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July 07, 2024, 07:37:52 AM
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It's impossible due to the house edge. If patterns in gambling existed, they would be discovered sooner or later by one or another gambler (or even by the AI, as you said), who would share his discovery with the rest of gambling community, so everyone would be reproducing the same pattern and making continuous and certain profit in a frequently basis. As consequence, casinos would start losing money on long run, unable to maintain their businesses alive.
Well there is a clear solution here which is to change the patterns that their customers are noticing. That is why no matter how much pattern you crack, it will be soon enough until you cannot figure it out anymore

These casinos thrive in randomness and will do anything to make sure you do not find a pattern on their games

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It's impossible due to the house edge. If patterns in gambling existed, they would be discovered sooner or later by one or another gambler (or even by the AI, as you said), who would share his discovery with the rest of gambling community, so everyone would be reproducing the same pattern and making continuous and certain profit in a frequently basis. As consequence, casinos would start losing money on long run, unable to maintain their businesses alive.
Well there is a clear solution here which is to change the patterns that their customers are noticing. That is why no matter how much pattern you crack, it will be soon enough until you cannot figure it out anymore

These casinos thrive in randomness and will do anything to make sure you do not find a pattern on their games


Changing patterns is not necessary for them as the house edge is already enough for them to win most of the time. Plus, they could limit your bet, so overall, they won't really lose. If we are lucky, we are lucky, but the law of averages means that eventually, we will lose, as games are not designed in our favor. Sometimes we overthink, and I think it's wrong because, in the first place, we already know there's a house edge, and no one can beat the house edge in the long run.

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Patterns are most likely created with the odds of the chances in the particular game and are not all the time effective, if you are playing with slot games not all the time the mines aren't in the same location they are random based on the system-generated but of course, you can see a pattern of the mines that people think this always happens. Mine games are not a strategic game its just base on the luck game you can lessen the number of mines of course lessen the number of odds too.

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Changing patterns is not necessary for them as the house edge is already enough for them to win most of the time. Plus, they could limit your bet, so overall, they won't really lose. If we are lucky, we are lucky, but the law of averages means that eventually, we will lose, as games are not designed in our favor. Sometimes we overthink, and I think it's wrong because, in the first place, we already know there's a house edge, and no one can beat the house edge in the long run.
Yes, I agree with you, that the game is not designed to benefit us, but rather to benefit the house or dealer. Even if we can win, it is only occasionally and is rarer than wins obtained by the house or dealer. If they designed the game to benefit gamblers, it seems like from the start they would have opened social foundations and so on for worthy people to help. For example, in a week I gamble, I can only win a few times and even if I win, it can only cover the amount I lost. From there alone we can realize that we experience defeat more often than we win.

If the pattern of gambling to win really exists, then it has been solved. Even though they may change it every time, now there is a lot of technology that can read game patterns that can make us win. But unfortunately this is just a hope, in other words the pattern grows because someone has a high desire to win.

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