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March 08, 2024, 08:19:16 AM
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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
                                  
Easy to say, but difficult to implement.
Trust me, it's easy to say "I will buy it at the bottom" but the truth is, you don't know when it make a reversal.

Are you upset with those smart people? Why not be one of them instead so you can make the most profit like what they're doing? Kicking them for what? Because they're smart enough to gain profit while you OP, are losing your money. That's how life is. Some will go up, and some will go down. What's worse is that there are people out there who criticize other people because of what they're doing. I didn't know that being "smart" was a bad thing already. Cheesy You can say like "I'll buy when it stops going down." but do you know when it will stop going down?

Just focus on yourself OP instead of criticizing these "smart" people that you're saying. Instead of focusing on criticizing on them, focus on being one of them.

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March 08, 2024, 12:39:01 PM
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Buying and selling bitcoins is everyone's own decision and I don't see any impact on other investors. Research the market according to your experience you can learn something good your investment decision will be better you can easily avoid losses. Looking at the price of bitcoin in the market you can see how much it has pumped. Keep it long term investment and there will be no disturbing effects if the price increases you will get a lot of profit.

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March 08, 2024, 12:52:42 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together!
You are making it right and profiting. Buy low and Sell High --that is how it works in investing. That is easy to understand unless we dare not to listen.
If all people are doing this, none of us are suffering losses and all will be rich but yes, we can't make them all do the same.
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Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
                                  

That is an example of a person who thought that doing it in the right way was a big mistake, so change it and do the opposite.
Well, don't bother yourself seeing them and we have to accept the fact that not all are able to understand the situation and keep strong because many are weak and easily give up upon seeing their portfolio decrease.
 
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March 08, 2024, 04:32:57 PM
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why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

If someone is smart enough to understand what would happen if people do a certain thing, they should be able to time the market in a much better way than those people, so if OP thinks others are crazy and out of their minds then he should observe their actions and then plan his actions accordingly to stay on the positive side while others would stay on the negative side at the end of the day.
However, that isn't the case, OP isn't an expert himself and he probably has no idea about the market and how different cryptocurrencies move, he is just generalizing things and reaching conclusions on his own without having any solid point in his claims.









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March 08, 2024, 06:00:30 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
And you turn out to be one hell of a knowledgeable trading guru. Smiley

BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops.
Where did you see the BTC's fall?

We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together!
If everyone could make money on this, then the money would have to come out of thin air.

In the cryptomarket, as in any zero-sum game, it is impossible for everyone to be in profit.

Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
So is this everyone’s earnings or just your personal one? Smiley

Here everyone plays according to their own rules and for the sake of personal gain, and not everyone’s/yours.

I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!                            
Welcome to the real world of trading. Smiley

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March 08, 2024, 06:07:30 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!                   

I hope that you are not kidding like dear are you serious? how confident you are here like saying that you made lose due to smart and some genius people. Dude this is crypto space and things never work as you want sometimes market makes unwanted, undesired, unexpected moves and even traps a lot of traders and after reading your post I have a kind of idea about you... you are doing future trading with leverage? am I right? if so you are talking risk at your own end and do not put it on others like that. In my opinion, future trading has a high risk to our funds.

On the other hand, spot trading has less risk to our funds but risk is involved in both types of trading. Dear, in my opinion, one who has insufficient knowledge about the market sentiments or trends for him/her trading is just like gambling. So before starting trading, it will always be recommended that you should gain sufficient knowledge so that your risk can be reduced over your funds.

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March 08, 2024, 06:28:37 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
    
Why going through all this stress where you can buy and hold your Bitcoin without stress.

Selling when the price is about to go down and buying when the price is down is another work on its own, you can miss out if you are busy and you can buy or sell at the wrong time.

Instead of doing all these, you can learn crypto trading and be benefiting from it if you can’t hold for long.

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March 08, 2024, 07:14:45 PM
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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!

So you are upset because a few "smart" people ruined your idea and your chances to make up for what you lost because of your "stupid" idea. Or is it the other way around? A few "stupid" people ruined your "smart" idea. Or is it... I'm lost here.

Anyway, it seems like that wasn't your brightest idea, and neither was this topic.

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March 08, 2024, 07:27:13 PM
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It’s not always possible to buy an asset at the right moment, you think it’s so easy... in reality it’s hard. I would even say that most beginners do exactly as you describe. I believe you can never understand where the market is going and the ideal entry point. And if you manage to earn money, then this is of course your merit, apparently your experience is very good.
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I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
                                  
Easy to say, but difficult to implement.
Trust me, it's easy to say "I will buy it at the bottom" but the truth is, you don't know when it make a reversal.

Are you upset with those smart people? Why not be one of them instead so you can make the most profit like what they're doing? Kicking them for what? Because they're smart enough to gain profit while you OP, are losing your money. That's how life is. Some will go up, and some will go down. What's worse is that there are people out there who criticize other people because of what they're doing. I didn't know that being "smart" was a bad thing already. Cheesy You can say like "I'll buy when it stops going down." but do you know when it will stop going down?

Just focus on yourself OP instead of criticizing these "smart" people that you're saying. Instead of focusing on criticizing on them, focus on being one of them.
Well said mate. They say if you can’t beat them, then be one of them. I guess that will help you OP to analyze that not all in the market follow a certain rule. Sometimes we tend to break rules in order to save ourselves from losing our future profits. If you want to stick to your own rule OP, then just follow what you want and never leave negative comments to other people. Remember that what may work for you will not work for them, that’s why never expect that everyone in the market will follow the same path. Where they think they can be successful, that’s where they’ll focus on doing.

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why are you angry at people who actually have nothing to do with you? you can't say to investors that "hey guys, stop buying, i wanted to buy that bitcoin at a lower price and the price increase bothers me" you can't because of who you are tell people to do what they want to do.

so stop complaining about what people are doing and just focus on your investment, because if you feel smarter than most people, it shouldn't be difficult for you to make a profit from the current bitcoin price.

If someone is smart enough to understand what would happen if people do a certain thing, they should be able to time the market in a much better way than those people, so if OP thinks others are crazy and out of their minds then he should observe their actions and then plan his actions accordingly to stay on the positive side while others would stay on the negative side at the end of the day.
However, that isn't the case, OP isn't an expert himself and he probably has no idea about the market and how different cryptocurrencies move, he is just generalizing things and reaching conclusions on his own without having any solid point in his claims.
Reality is OP does not have much experiences in the market because if he is really a well-experienced one, he will understand that not all people in the market follow the same process or action. Probably he is only basing his analysis from his readings and observations in the market. But we all know that not everything written in the books are working in the real market. There is more to what we can experience in the real market.

However, what OP thinks at this moment might probably change in the future once he’s well experienced and skillful enough. We don’t have to criticize him as well as everyone may commits mistakes at first, but eventually learn from all his mistakes in the end.

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March 09, 2024, 02:38:30 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
                                  

The current bitcoin market is above 68k they bought bitcoin around December 2023 they have profited greatly. Day by day BTC price is increasing now if we buy BTC I don't know how much profit we can get but if we could buy BTC when it was 40k then surely we could get a lot of profit by buying BTC. Of course, our patience is very important in Bitcoin investment, many times many big investors lose patience, if we can invest patiently, we will definitely get a lot of success with Bitcoin. Of course, we need to have a long-term plan when investing in Bitcoin. If we invest patiently after checking the market, we will definitely get success by investing bitcoin.

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March 09, 2024, 02:51:14 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!
                                  


Sounds like someone here left by the moon train of Bitcoin. Your target sell price is not everyone target. We have different speculations on how much will be the price ceiling for Bitcoin price pump so just shut up and wait if you manage to sell early while the price keep pumping since you already ended your chance to earn more.

You can’t force everyone to follow your target price because there will be no trading happening. Think about everyone sell on the same target as yours, do you think that the market will hold for that certain price? Trading is simply just transferring of wealth from people to other people. Not everyone can be in profit on trading so be thankful that there’s still someone buying on time like this to continue the growth of Bitcoin.

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March 09, 2024, 05:15:30 PM
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It is normal for the market to rise and fall.Many people sold and profited when the price of Bitcoin went up a lot.Now that the price of BTC is going down, it is natural that everyone will buy again i.e. invest and resell in Bitcoin.But those who cannot accept this normality have to face their own problems as well as others and losses. But there is nothing to be done about it.  Because people are the key against the current and such people will be everywhere, so it has to be accepted.There is not much loss in business for these kind of people so it is better to ignore them without thinking about them.

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March 09, 2024, 11:24:05 PM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...

I can say for sure that this strategy will not always work and at some point, after the price drops and you buy a coin, the price will continue to fall and you will become a holder for many years.

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March 10, 2024, 02:13:24 AM
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Hahaha it's very related to I think all of these people are reading the treads because it happens in everyone's life and our mind goes through somewhat same feelings. Actually these geniuses are daily traders that are trading on a daily or hourly basis and they want some small but good profits to come out.

The point to understand here is that there is a difference between a long term trader and a daily trader, they have to strive and look for profits daily in the coins by studying the market and they should get some profits so that they can run their household. I know people who are completely dependent on the trades they open and close daily so it's convenient for one set of people but not for other ones

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March 10, 2024, 03:51:43 AM
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When I see that the price is flying down steeply, I sell everything and let it fall down. When it stops, then I buy cheap and I have earned...
BTC is going down now, so let it go and buy when it stops. We can all make money from it and then we will again get it up together! Unfortunately, there are always a few "geniuses" who go against the flow and they are buying when they should be selling, and that destroying everyone's earnings...
I'm seriously upset because a couple of such  " smart "  people just ruined my chance to make up loss... I would like to kick them somewhere!                        
I support your trading strategy. One of the trading strategies is to buy on dips and sell when the market rises. People who can buy on the dip and sell on the rise have a lot of success in trading. I always analyze the market, I wait until the market goes deep, when I see the market goes down, I start trading the market and from there I wait until the market goes above my purchase price and I make some profit. If there is then I sell. I never get too greedy on trading platforms because I have seen that being too greedy means losing on trading platforms. Every trader should be alert especially in this pumping market everyone should be alert at any time the market may be dumping.

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March 10, 2024, 05:40:42 AM
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It’s not always possible to buy an asset at the right moment, you think it’s so easy... in reality it’s hard. I would even say that most beginners do exactly as you describe. I believe you can never understand where the market is going and the ideal entry point. And if you manage to earn money, then this is of course your merit, apparently your experience is very good.

Finding right moment is not easy and sometimes you wait for right time but when right time arises then you don't have any amount so I think every moment is right if you have money.

One can hardly realize that will market goes pump or dump therefore when you find an opportunity and have money then don't wait more as because of waiting more you can miss out most of beneficial chances.

Understanding about market is not easy so set your target and be patience until you achieved your goals so in such a harsh condition, unpredictable market and with unpredictable coins if one become able to earn money then really he is a genius.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Sure, many people don't care about the prices involved, they just want to invest for the long term to make a profit and I think that is a good strategy, because sometimes when you see the prices of bitcoin increasing you will be thinking when ever you invest on it, the prices will probably decrease and you will lose your funds, but when you make up your mind that your investment is for the long term and whatever happens, you will just sell your coin and leave it for long term thing he reach your specific time before you can sell the coin.
I just had the talk on the same topic you are talking about now, I can't agree more with you because if a person has plans to hold BTC for like next 4 to 10 years, or less. Then a proper risk management strategy would be enough to accumulate BTC at whatever price. Because in the end, that person will be in profit. Profit is all we (investors) seek, but it should be worth it. Many people are so enthusiastic about BTC that they don't consider any other token, and they think investing all of the funds in BTC, can make you rich. I don't deny it, but diversification is also one of the main part in risk management.
Anyone who is blaming people for their losses is not smart enough, which is why they are losing. Since you have identified and know how to do it, it is better for you to make your own research without depending on anyone,-cut-
You are right, we should DYOR, never blame others, if we start to blame others, then whenever the market dumps I should blame the sellers because they are the ones who panic and burst sell, which dips the market, so I should blame them. Haha. Why do I blame myself that I should have predicted the market before? I should have done my homework so I could save my funds and make some profit.

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...Anyone who is blaming people for their losses is not smart enough, which is why they are losing. Since you have identified and know how to do it, it is better for you to make your own research without depending on anyone, because not everything they need to be telling you on trading or investment is you that will get up and make your own research and how you are trading, that is how you will be getting more experience without telling you anything. When you blame others for your losses, it shows you either trust them to assist you trade or you do not want to make your own decisions.

There is no point in looking for someone to blame if you end up being the one to blame. If the wrong decision is made, then you will lose your money, the money of the one whose help you used in making the decision will remain safe.

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