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Today at 05:58:59 AM
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... I will also prioritize my Bitcoin accumulation because I believe so much in Bitcoin and I know for sure that if something doesn't go wrong I will be among those that will celebrate their success in Bitcoin investment and I hope and believe nothing will go wrong. Being careless is a mindset and a choice and like I said not everyone has that mindset and choice of being careless because they want their tomorrow to be better than today.
Take a breathe of fresh air dude and feel fly confidently as eagle in the air  with your bitcoin investment, cause nothing bad is going to happen to bitcoin in the future. See the bitcoin  dominance and it penetration into the macroeconomy is overwhelming that the governments, corporate entities and institutions has to adopt as strategic reserve. If there was any signals that something was going to be wrong these big players like Micheal Saylor will not go aggressive with their accumulation of their bitcoin investment. Stay anchored to your long term investment vision and be impervious to the fears.
It seems like you guys are really enthusiastic about this discussion and talking about how BTC has great potential in the future and won't disappoint you. If you have that kind of mindset, then you are definitely amazing people, and I enjoy reading your passionate posts. Yes, hopefully we can be more successful in the future by investing in BTC. Indeed, we don't need to be afraid to invest in BTC, even though investing in BTC is risky. However, as long as we use discretionary income, there is nothing to fear because it does not affect our real-world economy. Yes, famous people and companies have already bought BTC, and that indicates that BTC has great potential in the future. Now is a good opportunity for us to continue DCA because we don't want others to get ahead of us since BTC is a rare asset.

I doubt that we need to invest into bitcoin based on fears that others are going to get ahead of us, but instead, bitcoin seems to be a great place to invest and store value - even though you are correct with your implication that we seem to be quite early to bitcoin, so part of the reason that bitcoin is likely to continue to go up quite a bit for us, rather than for people who enter later, is that there is an ongoing advantage in regard to getting started earlier rather than later...

and some advantage in regards to both identifying bitcoin as a good place to put time, energy and value and to also act upon our asymmetric knowledge since an overwhelming majority of normies (to the extent that they have even heard about bitcoin) either do not know what bitcoin is or they have incorrect ideas in regards to what bitcoin is so in that sense earlier investors are advantaged by their asymmetric knowledge.
If we invest out of fear of a peers getting ahead of us then what's going to stop us from selling too early out of fear that our asset might lose value, bitcoin investment isn't gambling and shouldn't be treated as such, the moment your investment is being fueled by the fear of being left behind them that investment is already in a bind because once that fear goes away so too does your need to invest and then you end up stopping halfway through your investment process, at the point you are no longer an investor you are just a recognition obsessed guy who wants to feel among, bitcoin is an amazing place to store value, what's even better is that value isn't just stored, it is increased as well and you end up having more than you initially stored in bitcoin.

... I will also prioritize my Bitcoin accumulation because I believe so much in Bitcoin and I know for sure that if something doesn't go wrong I will be among those that will celebrate their success in Bitcoin investment and I hope and believe nothing will go wrong. Being careless is a mindset and a choice and like I said not everyone has that mindset and choice of being careless because they want their tomorrow to be better than today.
Take a breathe of fresh air dude and feel fly confidently as eagle in the air  with your bitcoin investment, cause nothing bad is going to happen to bitcoin in the future. See the bitcoin  dominance and it penetration into the macroeconomy is overwhelming that the governments, corporate entities and institutions has to adopt as strategic reserve. If there was any signals that something was going to be wrong these big players like Micheal Saylor will not go aggressive with their accumulation of their bitcoin investment. Stay anchored to your long term investment vision and be impervious to the fears.
It seems like you guys are really enthusiastic about this discussion and talking about how BTC has great potential in the future and won't disappoint you. If you have that kind of mindset, then you are definitely amazing people, and I enjoy reading your passionate posts. Yes, hopefully we can be more successful in the future by investing in BTC. Indeed, we don't need to be afraid to invest in BTC, even though investing in BTC is risky. However, as long as we use discretionary income, there is nothing to fear because it does not affect our real-world economy. Yes, famous people and companies have already bought BTC, and that indicates that BTC has great potential in the future. Now is a good opportunity for us to continue DCA because we don't want others to get ahead of us since BTC is a rare asset.
I doubt that we need to invest into bitcoin based on fears that others are going to get ahead of us, but instead, bitcoin seems to be a great place to invest and store value - even though you are correct with your implication that we seem to be quite early to bitcoin, so part of the reason that bitcoin is likely to continue to go up quite a bit for us, rather than for people who enter later, is that there is an ongoing advantage in regard to getting started earlier rather than later...
You are absolutely correct and that is where some people get it wrong, once the mindset that someone will invest more or someone will be ahead of you in Bitcoin investment at that moment you have started putting yourself in a pressure and if you try to invest more than them when you don't have the capacity, your investment will be in a Chaos because it will then be like a competition and funny enough you will be the one fighting and competing with yourself because the next person doesn't care and they have the capacity.

Of course, some folks want to have some reason of competition to inspire themselves to do better, yet like you suggested, it can be problematic to be measuring ourselves in terms of others rather than just figuring out our own boundaries and perhaps trying to be a better version of ourselves and/or trying to set reasonable self-standards to improve ourselves without overdoing it (perhaps within our personal factors), since it is not good if we lose track of our own parameters, and sure it is possible that we are analyzing ourselves and the various ways to improve and we also might analyze aspects of bitcoin as compared with other places that we might be choosing to put our time, energy and value.. .and sometimes we might have to go through some of the processes in order to figure out if there might be any ways that we might choose to tweak and/or improve any of the things that we are choosing to do.
What happens when a perstis competing with others and their competition who probably has a higher discretionary income ends up investing more than they do? I mean when a person can't even measure up to their competitors they naturally feel like giving up seeing things in a way that seems like it's impossible for them to ever catch up to others, for me it's best to invest in bitcoin at your own pace, it's not a race against anyone but yourself, the moment an investor allows someone else's investment rate determine their own they start to derail, of course it's very much possible to have a healthy competition but sadly that's not always the case so instead of worrying too much about how much more bitcoin the next person has over me the best thing to do is to check how far I've come from when I started investing to the present day.
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Today at 10:31:22 AM
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I assume that if someone holds such a view, they usually don't truly understand how investing works and the Bitcoin cycle. Investing isn't a guarantee of instant profits. The higher the amount of money we invest and the potential for long-term returns, the higher the risk they face. People who want to get rich quick often get caught up in speculation, which is more like gambling than their initial investment goal. If someone truly understands how Bitcoin works, they're likely to be more patient and focus on long term goals rather than short term ones.
Your right, investment in bitcoin is not a guarantee of success in the future and the chances of being profitable will depends on the size of one Portfolio and Hodl durations for atleast two cycles. Bitcoin investment is risky and the risk involved could be minimal or higher depending on how much is invested and the importance of the funds invested. Using discretionary income to invest in bitcoin after basic needs are met would reduce the risk and investor can move on if anything happen to bitcoin in the future. Therefore, investor would suffer no loss as fund that he is using to invest are funds he could afford to lose.

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Today at 10:39:07 AM
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The bitcoin market is sweet and the best we have witnessed so far. Going into with one's entire income would make one think otherwise. It has been warned by experts that discretionary income should be invested. One can't just put in everything he's got in the market and call that a smart investment. That's risky. Anyhow that most go into the market must first understand its volatile nature and to enjoy the market, people shouldn't go beyond their discretionary income.
This is not just the advice of experts, it is a very common thing, if a person uses his entire income in investment, how will he meet his daily needs? Investing in Bitcoin is still a big opportunity for us. Because after a few years, Bitcoin will be so expensive that today's market price will seem very cheap. So it is wise to start investing small from now without regretting in the future.

But, no matter how big an asset Bitcoin is, if we cannot save Bitcoin, then it will remain just a dream. So we have to make our dream a reality. For this, we need to start investing small. There are a lot of people in our society who have misconceptions about Bitcoin. There are still many people around us who are ignorant about Bitcoin. But those of us who are associated with the Bitcoin world know what Bitcoin is basically, how huge its future is. So we have to start investing in Bitcoin by following the right rules.

We need to keep in mind some very simple things to make Bitcoin investment long-term. While investing in Bitcoin, we cannot be just aggressive like the ignorant. We will first need a regular source of income. We will have to extract a discretionary income from the regular source of income. And along with this, we will have to keep an emergency fund and a reserve fund.

If we keep to your instructions or thoughts here, that means that those who do not have a work or job that pays reguraly wouldn't invest in Bitcoin. There are those who do not get a regular pay, and there income are not fixed. Maybe there Jobs are on contract and doesn't come always, or maybe they do daily Jobs, and sometimes they might not have the opportunity to work for some days, or sometimes illness too. So these set of people may not have regular income, but I still feel that they can investing bitcoyas they can afford. I believe if they are interested in bitcoin investment, they can, after receiving there pay for there day's job, or after executing a contract as the case maybe, they can figure out there discretionary from such pay and then invest as they deem fit using the DCA strategy. And such investors will always work with flexibility since there Income is not always regular. So I feel they can still be investors even though they are not regular in receiving there pay it income.

I don't think this  idea is right that only those that have regular job or fixed salaries that can invest in bitcoin.Not having a stable source of income shouldn't stop anyone from investing in bitcoin. The most important thing is if the person has discretionary income to invest with then they are good to start investing in bitcoin. They can start with DCA strategy and buy only when there salary comes in regardless if there salary is stable or not.

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Today at 11:49:25 AM
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I doubt that we need to invest into bitcoin based on fears that others are going to get ahead of us, but instead, bitcoin seems to be a great place to invest and store value - even though you are correct with your implication that we seem to be quite early to bitcoin, so part of the reason that bitcoin is likely to continue to go up quite a bit for us, rather than for people who enter later, is that there is an ongoing advantage in regard to getting started earlier rather than later...

and some advantage in regards to both identifying bitcoin as a good place to put time, energy and value and to also act upon our asymmetric knowledge since an overwhelming majority of normies (to the extent that they have even heard about bitcoin) either do not know what bitcoin is or they have incorrect ideas in regards to what bitcoin is so in that sense earlier investors are advantaged by their asymmetric knowledge.
Yes, it's undeniable that those who invest in Bitcoin early will clearly outperform those who invest later. However, I don't think this can be used as a definitive benchmark that those who invest in Bitcoin later will not succeed and progress. Because Bitcoin is an asset whose demand continues to grow, so even if we buy now, it's certainly not too late. Basically, if we regret why we didn't buy Bitcoin earlier, it will clearly yield no results.

So, instead of complaining, it's better to start while we have time to invest in Bitcoin. Because, basically, when we talk about delays in investing in Bitcoin, at this stage, I don't think there's such a thing as too late. After all, Bitcoin is only just over 16 years old. So, looking at it, it's clearly still early and hasn't entered its final phase. Bitcoin hasn't finished mining, and according to predictions, it's still a long way off, so why feel like it's too late to invest in Bitcoin?

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Today at 01:05:05 PM
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I assume that if someone holds such a view, they usually don't truly understand how investing works and the Bitcoin cycle. Investing isn't a guarantee of instant profits. The higher the amount of money we invest and the potential for long-term returns, the higher the risk they face. People who want to get rich quick often get caught up in speculation, which is more like gambling than their initial investment goal. If someone truly understands how Bitcoin works, they're likely to be more patient and focus on long term goals rather than short term ones.
Your right, investment in bitcoin is not a guarantee of success in the future and the chances of being profitable will depends on the size of one Portfolio and Hodl durations for atleast two cycles. Bitcoin investment is risky and the risk involved could be minimal or higher depending on how much is invested and the importance of the funds invested. Using discretionary income to invest in bitcoin after basic needs are met would reduce the risk and investor can move on if anything happen to bitcoin in the future. Therefore, investor would suffer no loss as fund that he is using to invest are funds he could afford to lose.
Risk is a must in all investments because we all live in uncertainty at every stage of life. In most of the investments we make, we do not know what the price situation will be tomorrow. Bitcoin will be similarly logical in terms of investment. That is why Bitcoin is ahead in terms of high risk as it is expected to have high returns as well as long term investors. The risk in the case of Bitcoin is highlighted due to its volatile price. In addition there are many factors involved in the depreciation of fiat or real assets but in the case of Bitcoin you will only see irrational speculation. Due to the printing of more fiat, its value is structurally decreasing over time. But Bitcoin is an exceptional store of value whose production system is limited, which means that the supply of Bitcoin in the world is limited. The fundamental difference between infinite demand and limited supply has the potential to increase the price of Bitcoin in the future. If you want to balance capital preservation and review it in real terms, then build a low risk Bitcoin financial system through discretionary income. After meeting the needs of the family Bitcoin accumulation and 4-10 years of continuous.

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Today at 01:29:58 PM
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I assume that if someone holds such a view, they usually don't truly understand how investing works and the Bitcoin cycle. Investing isn't a guarantee of instant profits. The higher the amount of money we invest and the potential for long-term returns, the higher the risk they face. People who want to get rich quick often get caught up in speculation, which is more like gambling than their initial investment goal. If someone truly understands how Bitcoin works, they're likely to be more patient and focus on long term goals rather than short term ones.
Your right, investment in bitcoin is not a guarantee of success in the future and the chances of being profitable will depends on the size of one Portfolio and Hodl durations for atleast two cycles. Bitcoin investment is risky and the risk involved could be minimal or higher depending on how much is invested and the importance of the funds invested. Using discretionary income to invest in bitcoin after basic needs are met would reduce the risk and investor can move on if anything happen to bitcoin in the future. Therefore, investor would suffer no loss as fund that he is using to invest are funds he could afford to lose.
Risk is a must in all investments because we all live in uncertainty at every stage of life. In most of the investments we make, we do not know what the price situation will be tomorrow. Bitcoin will be similarly logical in terms of investment. That is why Bitcoin is ahead in terms of high risk as it is expected to have high returns as well as long term investors. The risk in the case of Bitcoin is highlighted due to its volatile price. In addition there are many factors involved in the depreciation of fiat or real assets but in the case of Bitcoin you will only see irrational speculation. Due to the printing of more fiat, its value is structurally decreasing over time. But Bitcoin is an exceptional store of value whose production system is limited, which means that the supply of Bitcoin in the world is limited. The fundamental difference between infinite demand and limited supply has the potential to increase the price of Bitcoin in the future. If you want to balance capital preservation and review it in real terms, then build a low risk Bitcoin financial system through discretionary income. After meeting the needs of the family Bitcoin accumulation and 4-10 years of continuous.
If for the long term I believe no one doubts Bitcoin and it can be seen from what has happened from time to time so it is very possible that we can see the same thing happen in the future even though the percentage is not as big as what has happened but there is potential for all improvements and regarding risks it must also be remembered that all investments have risks and the risk of investing in Bitcoin is quite worth it with the possible profits we will get, so I think we do not need to overthink about risks and also instant profits, what needs to be embedded in the planning is that this is a long-term investment so no matter what happens now but we still have to accumulate Bitcoin with discretionary income.

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Today at 02:07:10 PM
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They can start with DCA strategy and buy only when there salary comes in regardless if there salary is stable or not.
You can make your investment with any amount of money. However, to maintain discipline in investment, it is better to have a fixed income. If you can invest from prudent income, investment is more sustainable. It is always said that by keeping an emergency fund in addition to investment, you will not have to worry about investment unnecessarily. You can complete the investment well only when you can be steady and patient. Buy investment through dca strategy, you can buy investment at any time. Even if you do not have a stable income, you can buy investment.

Many times investors make the mistake of thinking that they may be too late to buy investment but they do not know that they can start investing anytime they want. dca will be a good strategy for hedging. Long-term investment will be a stable investment method
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Today at 02:33:21 PM
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They can start with DCA strategy and buy only when there salary comes in regardless if there salary is stable or not.
You can make your investment with any amount of money. However, to maintain discipline in investment, it is better to have a fixed income. If you can invest from prudent income, investment is more sustainable. It is always said that by keeping an emergency fund in addition to investment, you will not have to worry about investment unnecessarily. You can complete the investment well only when you can be steady and patient. Buy investment through dca strategy, you can buy investment at any time. Even if you do not have a stable income, you can buy investment.

Many times investors make the mistake of thinking that they may be too late to buy investment but they do not know that they can start investing anytime they want. dca will be a good strategy for hedging. Long-term investment will be a stable investment method
There is no need for a stable income to invest, you can invest stably even if you do not have a stable income. The important thing for investment is to have prudent money and a prudent source of income. If you have prudent money and a prudent source of income, then there is no need to worry too much about whether your source of income is stable or unstable.

The DCA strategy is an investment strategy that gives you the opportunity to invest at any time in the market, but make sure that you are involved in a long-term plan and that you are buying regularly. Maintaining discipline in DCA is important and being aggressive in investing within your means and buying in the market of dips if necessary can help you move forward quickly in your investment. Therefore, combining DCA with dip strategies and lump sum strategies can be a good move. However, it is important to know and follow your limits correctly.

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