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As a newbie the very first day you decide to start trading Bitcoin that is the day you made a big financial mistake. I cannot support any discussion that has to trading because I believe trading should be avoided by all cost in my own opinion. New Bitcoiners are being deceived online when they see flashy lifestyle of influencers and content makers who claim they make billions in trading Bitcoin. Most of those things they see there are fake lifestyles. Yet they choose to start trading an asset which they should have just invest in for long term.

However, everyone has their choice to make when it comes to being a bitcoiner. Someday we will reap the consequences of our actions whether it yields something good or not. I will always spill the truth and that is instead of a newbie to take all the years of learning how to trade Bitcoin why not they start their investment journey for that number of years and see how much they have accumulated in their wallet.

Trading without skills and capital will only end in losses, the influencers out there will not care about the losses you suffer, they only live for content and make money with content.

Having the capital and skill in trading does not guarantee that you will make profits when trading, because even professional traders run at big loss for just a slight mistake. It is not easy to ride on the price wave of bitcoin but a lot of traders fails to understand this, and they think that they can outsmart the market. Anyone that is serious to pile up wealth for his future shouldn't consider trading, because it might be the worst lane to pass through.

Bitcoin long term invest has given you the opportunity to invest in bitcoin through DCA in order for you to pile up wealth for yourself buy using only your discretionary income to buy bitcoin regularly and your focus should is for you to be consistent and persistent in building your bitcoin portfolio to your target. This is why, you need to always work on your income to improve it so that you can invest aggressively.

[Cgrexp]

Is not wrong when you have the capacity to make it happen for the profit to come quickly

Once someone starts thinking they can make a quick profit from Bitcoin investment, they will not be called an investor but rather a trader. This is because only traders always have the mindset of making it happen quickly, while investors don’t usually have that type of mindset but focus on how they will continue accumulating.to be honest, once someone wants to make quick money from Bitcoin, they are setting a trap for themselves and at end they will fall on the trap. This mindset often leads to losing funds easily.The best approach is to invest and be ready to hold your Bitcoin for the long term because a long term perspective looks promising, given that Bitcoin price is expected to go higher over time. Many people have lost money in Bitcoin simply because they tried to outsmart the market and make quick profits, but it didn’t work as they had planned.

In fact, until now there are still many people who seem to have a slightly narrower mindset where they only want to be in bitcoin with the hope of instant wealth that they can get which in the end actually destroys their own expectations.
In addition, for now, sometimes there are also quite a few people who consider themselves investors but the actions they take actually lead to traders because their understanding is not very good so that they always overlap and equate traders and investors as the same even though it is clear that we must be able to separate it because even though the scope is the same, traders are not investors and vice versa.

Many people are now mistaken in considering themselves investors but they sometimes do not reflect an investor because they only expect profit and sell their bitcoins even though the profit is only a few percent of the amount they bought and then proudly say that they are successful investors because of that.

Yes you have stated the fact and that is just the mindset of many investors, they sometimes do what traders does but the reason why they try to exonerate themselves from traders is that they have a shallow understanding that if they can HODL for like a year before they sell that it won't be considered as trading but they forgot to know that the only way they can be fulfilled while investing in bitcoin is to hold for long at least for a whole cycle of 4 years and above, although 4 years investment can only be considered as a fairly long term investment otherwise a long term investment is supposed to take at least 2 cycles of 8 years and above.

It is important to understand the real concept of investing in bitcoin and not just invest because others are investing or do what others does. investing in bitcoin requires removing trading mentality all in the name of investment because if they remove that trading mentality, they will encounter the beauty of investing than trading because most of those that will chose trading might fall out along the line due to losses and mismanagement of funds while someone who is investing have his assets intact in his custody while waiting for the appropriate time to take profits after acquiring satisfactory amount in his portfolio.

It is difficult to succeed by investing only by seeing others. In investing, it is better to have a long-term investment mindset because long-term investors can profit by keeping their assets intact. For the purpose of long-term investment, if someone HOLD for a year and then sells it, it is an investment. But if the purpose is long-term, why is it one year? If the purpose of long-term investment is four years, it is better because the actual price increase of Bitcoin takes at least four years. So it may be that you are losing part of that big profit by holding for one year. If the purpose is short-term, you can hold for one year. However, as a real investor, holding for four to eight years would be a good strategy.
On the other hand, those who have a trading mindset often suffer major financial losses because in a volatile market like Bitcoin, the price fluctuates rapidly, and most traders suffer when the price suddenly decreases. Due to major financial losses, their actual capital can often be lost.  There are many traders who panic sell when they see market fluctuations and make wrong decisions. It is not that trading is not profitable, trading can be profitable but it is high risk and one should not come to trading without any experience.
If you want to invest, you have to remove the trading mentality and create a long-term and patient investor mentality. In long-term investment, the DCA strategy reduces the risk of investment. Over time, it helps to increase the amount of savings and in the long run it becomes a large amount. When someone invests for more than four years and faces market fluctuations, he can see a large capital increase in his investment. Usually, long-term investments improve by overcoming market volatility.
Again, in long-term investment, by creating a diversified portfolio, one can reduce the risk and increase the potential for profit by investing in different sectors, bonds, shares, real estate.

[CageMabok]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

[wmaurik]

Trading is not for everyone, this is a sentence that I will always continue and spread, because out there there are many beginners who feel that they can conquer trading, even though they have no skills at all, if the goal is to accumulate bitcoins, then becoming a holder is very good, especially by implementing the DCA and buy the dip concepts, the bitcoin investment that is carried out will definitely bear sweet fruit.

Trading without skills and capital will only end in losses, the influencers out there will not care about the losses you suffer, they only live for content and make money with content.

This is very appropriate, especially those who are new to trading and think they can easily make profits from trading, of course this will be very risky for them and even not infrequently those who already have good experience still experience failure when trading, especially those who are new to it without experience, of course, will be able to easily make mistakes and of course will experience losses in the trading they do.

Choosing to hold Bitcoin in the long term will certainly be very good for their future and most importantly they can accumulate Bitcoin consistently with the method you mentioned will certainly be able to get benefits from it compared to trading without having a good understanding and we also have to be careful when looking at influencer content that we may not be able to use for trading.

[Mr Reporter]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

Looking at some insights analysis of different between an trader and investor in the Bitcoin space note this about traders they Carrie's inherent risk  leading to higher percentage of unsuccessful trader compare to investors, while been a investor you must learn how to hold for a long period of time and also Bitcoin are having several years often reap profit, highlighting the importance of patience and hold strategies, While you are an trader you must constantly monitor the market. As an investor you don't always need to consistently monitoring price chart.  

[Umulala-alala]

Is not wrong when you have the capacity to make it happen for the profit to come quickly

Once someone starts thinking they can make a quick profit from Bitcoin investment, they will not be called an investor but rather a trader. This is because only traders always have the mindset of making it happen quickly, while investors don’t usually have that type of mindset but focus on how they will continue accumulating.to be honest, once someone wants to make quick money from Bitcoin, they are setting a trap for themselves and at end they will fall on the trap. This mindset often leads to losing funds easily.The best approach is to invest and be ready to hold your Bitcoin for the long term because a long term perspective looks promising, given that Bitcoin price is expected to go higher over time. Many people have lost money in Bitcoin simply because they tried to outsmart the market and make quick profits, but it didn’t work as they had planned.

In fact, until now there are still many people who seem to have a slightly narrower mindset where they only want to be in bitcoin with the hope of instant wealth that they can get which in the end actually destroys their own expectations.
In addition, for now, sometimes there are also quite a few people who consider themselves investors but the actions they take actually lead to traders because their understanding is not very good so that they always overlap and equate traders and investors as the same even though it is clear that we must be able to separate it because even though the scope is the same, traders are not investors and vice versa.

Many people are now mistaken in considering themselves investors but they sometimes do not reflect an investor because they only expect profit and sell their bitcoins even though the profit is only a few percent of the amount they bought and then proudly say that they are successful investors because of that.

Yes you have stated the fact and that is just the mindset of many investors, they sometimes do what traders does but the reason why they try to exonerate themselves from traders is that they have a shallow understanding that if they can HODL for like a year before they sell that it won't be considered as trading but they forgot to know that the only way they can be fulfilled while investing in bitcoin is to hold for long at least for a whole cycle of 4 years and above, although 4 years investment can only be considered as a fairly long term investment otherwise a long term investment is supposed to take at least 2 cycles of 8 years and above.

It is important to understand the real concept of investing in bitcoin and not just invest because others are investing or do what others does. investing in bitcoin requires removing trading mentality all in the name of investment because if they remove that trading mentality, they will encounter the beauty of investing than trading because most of those that will chose trading might fall out along the line due to losses and mismanagement of funds while someone who is investing have his assets intact in his custody while waiting for the appropriate time to take profits after acquiring satisfactory amount in his portfolio.

It is difficult to succeed by investing only by seeing others. In investing, it is better to have a long-term investment mindset because long-term investors can profit by keeping their assets intact. For the purpose of long-term investment, if someone HOLD for a year and then sells it, it is an investment. But if the purpose is long-term, why is it one year? If the purpose of long-term investment is four years, it is better because the actual price increase of Bitcoin takes at least four years. So it may be that you are losing part of that big profit by holding for one year. If the purpose is short-term, you can hold for one year. However, as a real investor, holding for four to eight years would be a good strategy.
On the other hand, those who have a trading mindset often suffer major financial losses because in a volatile market like Bitcoin, the price fluctuates rapidly, and most traders suffer when the price suddenly decreases. Due to major financial losses, their actual capital can often be lost.  There are many traders who panic sell when they see market fluctuations and make wrong decisions. It is not that trading is not profitable, trading can be profitable but it is high risk and one should not come to trading without any experience.
If you want to invest, you have to remove the trading mentality and create a long-term and patient investor mentality. In long-term investment, the DCA strategy reduces the risk of investment. Over time, it helps to increase the amount of savings and in the long run it becomes a large amount. When someone invests for more than four years and faces market fluctuations, he can see a large capital increase in his investment. Usually, long-term investments improve by overcoming market volatility.
Again, in long-term investment, by creating a diversified portfolio, one can reduce the risk and increase the potential for profit by investing in different sectors, bonds, shares, real estate.

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

[Fiatless]

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Buying and selling Bitcoin within one year could be called a short-term investment. But the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will make a profit within one year of Bitcoin investment. If you have a one year plan there is a high chance that you might sell at a loss. It is better to have a long-term approach because it might lead to more profit, help you to overcome FUD and save you the stress of always monitoring the market

[avp2306]

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Buying and selling Bitcoin within one year could be called a short-term investment. But the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will make a profit within one year of Bitcoin investment. If you have a one year plan there is a high chance that you might sell at a loss. It is better to have a long-term approach because it might lead to more profit, help you to overcome FUD and save you the stress of always monitoring the market

Can still be called as short term investment. But I don't think this is best decision to do especially that he might just get so small profit,lose some percentage of their capital or just get break even. That's why its not really worth it to continue to do their short term goals with Bitcoin.

Better for investor to follow the recommended period which is at least 5 years and up since provably that they can feel the best result of their investment knowing Bitcoin would have good stretch on that time line. Taking short time posses huge risk that's why hopefully people will not try to engage on this matter and try to have long patience to deal with their Bitcoin since opportunity is there to those people who can afford to hold their Bitcoin for long term.

[Miles2006]

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Buying and selling Bitcoin within one year could be called a short-term investment. But the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will make a profit within one year of Bitcoin investment. If you have a one year plan there is a high chance that you might sell at a loss. It is better to have a long-term approach because it might lead to more profit, help you to overcome FUD and save you the stress of always monitoring the market

When reached a target plan it’s normal to feel some certain way about your portfolio maybe it has not gotten to the point yet, concerning investing no one should consider one year as a good investment plan not minding the amount difference. One year is still considered a trader for example buying and selling within some period is seen as trade which comes with a lot of risk no doubt, i think they trade because they lack the basic knowledge else why engage in something that will result to loss.

[Sonia_123]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

Looking at some insights analysis of different between an trader and investor in the Bitcoin space note this about traders they Carrie's inherent risk  leading to higher percentage of unsuccessful trader compare to investors, while been a investor you must learn how to hold for a long period of time and also Bitcoin are having several years often reap profit, highlighting the importance of patience and hold strategies, While you are an trader you must constantly monitor the market. As an investor you don't always need to consistently monitoring price chart.  

I disagree with you that investor do not    make it big, remember Bitcoin investment is like you having a share in one of your traditional  , you don't expect a share holder to buy a shares and within three months you sell it out, that does not tell well of you being a shareholder,how much profit would you have made before sell it off, no profit at all but if you had waited longer for like 10-15 years before selling off your shares ,you could have made a huge profit from it, imagine those that bought Bitcoin 2023-2024, the prices at then was lower than now ,so you can  check the difference and know how much the Traders must have missed within this period of an investor accumulating in his portfolio .

[justinlamode]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

[Cgrexp]

Is not wrong when you have the capacity to make it happen for the profit to come quickly

Once someone starts thinking they can make a quick profit from Bitcoin investment, they will not be called an investor but rather a trader. This is because only traders always have the mindset of making it happen quickly, while investors don’t usually have that type of mindset but focus on how they will continue accumulating.to be honest, once someone wants to make quick money from Bitcoin, they are setting a trap for themselves and at end they will fall on the trap. This mindset often leads to losing funds easily.The best approach is to invest and be ready to hold your Bitcoin for the long term because a long term perspective looks promising, given that Bitcoin price is expected to go higher over time. Many people have lost money in Bitcoin simply because they tried to outsmart the market and make quick profits, but it didn’t work as they had planned.

In fact, until now there are still many people who seem to have a slightly narrower mindset where they only want to be in bitcoin with the hope of instant wealth that they can get which in the end actually destroys their own expectations.
In addition, for now, sometimes there are also quite a few people who consider themselves investors but the actions they take actually lead to traders because their understanding is not very good so that they always overlap and equate traders and investors as the same even though it is clear that we must be able to separate it because even though the scope is the same, traders are not investors and vice versa.

Many people are now mistaken in considering themselves investors but they sometimes do not reflect an investor because they only expect profit and sell their bitcoins even though the profit is only a few percent of the amount they bought and then proudly say that they are successful investors because of that.

Yes you have stated the fact and that is just the mindset of many investors, they sometimes do what traders does but the reason why they try to exonerate themselves from traders is that they have a shallow understanding that if they can HODL for like a year before they sell that it won't be considered as trading but they forgot to know that the only way they can be fulfilled while investing in bitcoin is to hold for long at least for a whole cycle of 4 years and above, although 4 years investment can only be considered as a fairly long term investment otherwise a long term investment is supposed to take at least 2 cycles of 8 years and above.

It is important to understand the real concept of investing in bitcoin and not just invest because others are investing or do what others does. investing in bitcoin requires removing trading mentality all in the name of investment because if they remove that trading mentality, they will encounter the beauty of investing than trading because most of those that will chose trading might fall out along the line due to losses and mismanagement of funds while someone who is investing have his assets intact in his custody while waiting for the appropriate time to take profits after acquiring satisfactory amount in his portfolio.

It is difficult to succeed by investing only by seeing others. In investing, it is better to have a long-term investment mindset because long-term investors can profit by keeping their assets intact. For the purpose of long-term investment, if someone HOLD for a year and then sells it, it is an investment. But if the purpose is long-term, why is it one year? If the purpose of long-term investment is four years, it is better because the actual price increase of Bitcoin takes at least four years. So it may be that you are losing part of that big profit by holding for one year. If the purpose is short-term, you can hold for one year. However, as a real investor, holding for four to eight years would be a good strategy.
On the other hand, those who have a trading mindset often suffer major financial losses because in a volatile market like Bitcoin, the price fluctuates rapidly, and most traders suffer when the price suddenly decreases. Due to major financial losses, their actual capital can often be lost.  There are many traders who panic sell when they see market fluctuations and make wrong decisions. It is not that trading is not profitable, trading can be profitable but it is high risk and one should not come to trading without any experience.
If you want to invest, you have to remove the trading mentality and create a long-term and patient investor mentality. In long-term investment, the DCA strategy reduces the risk of investment. Over time, it helps to increase the amount of savings and in the long run it becomes a large amount. When someone invests for more than four years and faces market fluctuations, he can see a large capital increase in his investment. Usually, long-term investments improve by overcoming market volatility.
Again, in long-term investment, by creating a diversified portfolio, one can reduce the risk and increase the potential for profit by investing in different sectors, bonds, shares, real estate.

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Investment is a planned and correct strategy of spending resources or time to gain capital. The investment period or duration depends mainly on the individual. Some invest short-term and some long-term. According to your comment, you do not consider keeping it for a year as investment but as gambling or trading. Again, you said that if you keep it for four years, it is an investment.
Yes, Short-term investment and trading are almost same think. If someone keeps it for a year and then sells it profitably, then it is also a trading, And trading is an attempt to make quick profits through short-term buying and selling, which is risky. Some people are making good profits by keeping it for one to two years, while others are making big profits by keeping it for more than four years. However, a long-term attitude and patient attitude are good in investing.

[ZeroVinsonN]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

It has pretty much been established that investing is more profitable than trading in bitcoin and as such people are rarely advised to ever trade with their bitcoin assets but rather to keep investing in it, this has on for years now and the reason it hasn't failed is because the bitcoin market fovours investments and investors alike.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

Greed and impatience alike, most traders believe that Bitcoin's waiting period is too long and the profit too slow, this makes them keep trading their assets rather than holding for long, they don't like waiting and are only interested in making quick money that's why they keep trading rather than investing.

Looking at some insights analysis of different between an trader and investor in the Bitcoin space note this about traders they Carrie's inherent risk  leading to higher percentage of unsuccessful trader compare to investors, while been a investor you must learn how to hold for a long period of time and also Bitcoin are having several years often reap profit, highlighting the importance of patience and hold strategies, While you are an trader you must constantly monitor the market. As an investor you don't always need to consistently monitoring price chart. 

I disagree with you that investor do not    make it big, remember Bitcoin investment is like you having a share in one of your traditional  , you don't expect a share holder to buy a shares and within three months you sell it out, that does not tell well of you being a shareholder,how much profit would you have made before sell it off, no profit at all but if you had waited longer for like 10-15 years before selling off your shares ,you could have made a huge profit from it, imagine those that bought Bitcoin 2023-2024, the prices at then was lower than now ,so you can  check the difference and know how much the Traders must have missed within this period of an investor accumulating in his portfolio .

I'm trying to understand you statement especially since its a quote to someone someone else's post, you disagreed with Mr Reporter, but you are basically saying the same thing he said, you are both saying investors make profit from bitcoin because they are willing to wait for long and not sell as quickly as they are buying, so you disagreeing with someone and then making the same point as him is too confusing.

[Derekfunds]

Is not wrong when you have the capacity to make it happen for the profit to come quickly

Once someone starts thinking they can make a quick profit from Bitcoin investment, they will not be called an investor but rather a trader. This is because only traders always have the mindset of making it happen quickly, while investors don’t usually have that type of mindset but focus on how they will continue accumulating.to be honest, once someone wants to make quick money from Bitcoin, they are setting a trap for themselves and at end they will fall on the trap. This mindset often leads to losing funds easily.The best approach is to invest and be ready to hold your Bitcoin for the long term because a long term perspective looks promising, given that Bitcoin price is expected to go higher over time. Many people have lost money in Bitcoin simply because they tried to outsmart the market and make quick profits, but it didn’t work as they had planned.

In fact, until now there are still many people who seem to have a slightly narrower mindset where they only want to be in bitcoin with the hope of instant wealth that they can get which in the end actually destroys their own expectations.
In addition, for now, sometimes there are also quite a few people who consider themselves investors but the actions they take actually lead to traders because their understanding is not very good so that they always overlap and equate traders and investors as the same even though it is clear that we must be able to separate it because even though the scope is the same, traders are not investors and vice versa.

Many people are now mistaken in considering themselves investors but they sometimes do not reflect an investor because they only expect profit and sell their bitcoins even though the profit is only a few percent of the amount they bought and then proudly say that they are successful investors because of that.

Yes you have stated the fact and that is just the mindset of many investors, they sometimes do what traders does but the reason why they try to exonerate themselves from traders is that they have a shallow understanding that if they can HODL for like a year before they sell that it won't be considered as trading but they forgot to know that the only way they can be fulfilled while investing in bitcoin is to hold for long at least for a whole cycle of 4 years and above, although 4 years investment can only be considered as a fairly long term investment otherwise a long term investment is supposed to take at least 2 cycles of 8 years and above.

It is important to understand the real concept of investing in bitcoin and not just invest because others are investing or do what others does. investing in bitcoin requires removing trading mentality all in the name of investment because if they remove that trading mentality, they will encounter the beauty of investing than trading because most of those that will chose trading might fall out along the line due to losses and mismanagement of funds while someone who is investing have his assets intact in his custody while waiting for the appropriate time to take profits after acquiring satisfactory amount in his portfolio.

It is difficult to succeed by investing only by seeing others. In investing, it is better to have a long-term investment mindset because long-term investors can profit by keeping their assets intact. For the purpose of long-term investment, if someone HOLD for a year and then sells it, it is an investment. But if the purpose is long-term, why is it one year? If the purpose of long-term investment is four years, it is better because the actual price increase of Bitcoin takes at least four years. So it may be that you are losing part of that big profit by holding for one year. If the purpose is short-term, you can hold for one year. However, as a real investor, holding for four to eight years would be a good strategy.
On the other hand, those who have a trading mindset often suffer major financial losses because in a volatile market like Bitcoin, the price fluctuates rapidly, and most traders suffer when the price suddenly decreases. Due to major financial losses, their actual capital can often be lost.  There are many traders who panic sell when they see market fluctuations and make wrong decisions. It is not that trading is not profitable, trading can be profitable but it is high risk and one should not come to trading without any experience.
If you want to invest, you have to remove the trading mentality and create a long-term and patient investor mentality. In long-term investment, the DCA strategy reduces the risk of investment. Over time, it helps to increase the amount of savings and in the long run it becomes a large amount. When someone invests for more than four years and faces market fluctuations, he can see a large capital increase in his investment. Usually, long-term investments improve by overcoming market volatility.
Again, in long-term investment, by creating a diversified portfolio, one can reduce the risk and increase the potential for profit by investing in different sectors, bonds, shares, real estate.

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Investment is a planned and correct strategy of spending resources or time to gain capital. The investment period or duration depends mainly on the individual. Some invest short-term and some long-term. According to your comment, you do not consider keeping it for a year as investment but as gambling or trading. Again, you said that if you keep it for four years, it is an investment.
Yes, Short-term investment and trading are almost same think. If someone keeps it for a year and then sells it profitably, then it is also a trading, And trading is an attempt to make quick profits through short-term buying and selling, which is risky. Some people are making good profits by keeping it for one to two years, while others are making big profits by keeping it for more than four years. However, a long-term attitude and patient attitude are good in investing.

Investment is not a planned and correct strategy of spending resources or time to gain capital rather investment is a choice someone (investor) make to keep on accumulating and holding for a long period of time because they feels that is the best way to go about Bitcoin and it is through long term you can get something tangible. And secondly you don't spend resources in investment rather you buy and store for future use because definitely you will get a profit and I think the people that spend resources are traders because the chance of them losing there resources ( money) is very high so don't misunderstood this.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

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As a newbie the very first day you decide to start trading Bitcoin that is the day you made a big financial mistake. I cannot support any discussion that has to trading because I believe trading should be avoided by all cost in my own opinion. New Bitcoiners are being deceived online when they see flashy lifestyle of influencers and content makers who claim they make billions in trading Bitcoin. Most of those things they see there are fake lifestyles. Yet they choose to start trading an asset which they should have just invest in for long term.

However, everyone has their choice to make when it comes to being a bitcoiner. Someday we will reap the consequences of our actions whether it yields something good or not. I will always spill the truth and that is instead of a newbie to take all the years of learning how to trade Bitcoin why not they start their investment journey for that number of years and see how much they have accumulated in their wallet.

Trading without skills and capital will only end in losses, the influencers out there will not care about the losses you suffer, they only live for content and make money with content.

Having the capital and skill in trading does not guarantee that you will make profits when trading, because even professional traders run at big loss for just a slight mistake. It is not easy to ride on the price wave of bitcoin but a lot of traders fails to understand this, and they think that they can outsmart the market. Anyone that is serious to pile up wealth for his future shouldn't consider trading, because it might be the worst lane to pass through.

Bitcoin long term invest has given you the opportunity to invest in bitcoin through DCA in order for you to pile up wealth for yourself buy using only your discretionary income to buy bitcoin regularly and your focus should is for you to be consistent and persistent in building your bitcoin portfolio to your target. This is why, you need to always work on your income to improve it so that you can invest aggressively.

You know what Sim_Card, many traders pride at accurately timing the market to make gains, but in reality and with Bitcoin volatility and market manipulation, it's evident no one can continue to outsmart the markets Everytime as you can make mistakes one day and your losses may be far above the little profits history.

Instead of relying on the little gains that comes with trading, why not work in increasing your streams of income and invest into Bitcoin with the resulting discretionary income and allow your funds grow overtime, thereby securing your financial future better.

Traders must continue monitoring the market to buy when the prices are good for profits, this calls for emotional decisions and sometimes miscalculated actions which leads to losses.  DCA on the other hand removes those decision fatiques and errors by allowing you to continue buying across many market conditions and keep enlarging your portfolio.

Lastly, I must mention that trading is very time consuming and emotionally trapping . Investing gives the person involved back his time to do other necessities that would fetch them money and worry less about market conditions while only trying to expand their portfolio with consistent purchases. The emotional stress is limited with investing against trading.

[Cossyblack]

Bitcoin trading is very risky but if any newbie wants to try it out, do it with a very small amount of money so you can really see for yourself why I'm saying is very risky

Trading generally is risky, and you don’t have to say bitcoin trading is risky, is it only bitcoin trading that’s risky? people that do trade altcoins, the risk which they are taking not more than that of people trading bitcoin. Don’t be surprise that some newbies might see your post, and they will think it’s only bitcoin trading that’s risky.

Generally trading is risky, but that doesn’t mean even newbies can’t trade, they just have to start gradually, they should make sure they understand what trading is really all about, they should keep on reading about trading, and practicing, with time they will get to understand trading, and as a beginner, always start with little amount of money, because their is high chances of losing the money when learning. But we should know it’s what everyone can do, we don’t have to put fear in people.

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

I wouldn't support or recommend anybody to go into trading in Bitcoin,it's highly risky and less profitable and Most times considering the violatility of bitcoin and price fluctuation in the markets ,it is very difficult for a trader to minimize his loss talk more of to avoid it  as the losses in trading is far more higher than the profits and as such, the trader will be losing more of his capital while gaining little profits from the markets.One bad thing about trading is that it's causes emotional trauma to a trader especially for a newbie that haven't learn how to control his emotions mostly when he is losing out. This is the more reason people should avoid trading and start investing in bitcoin. As a long term investor in Bitcoin, you have a greater benefits to gain from investing while Hodl for a long term,because bitcoin is an assets with great potential that continues to appreciate over time which means as an investor, your funds in Bitcoin will become profitable and valuable to you in the long run.

[Humblevirus]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

some people start trading all because they believe that they want make quick money but i may say some didn’t see anyone to guide them or explain the benefits between trading and investment and risks involves. If many had known, they wouldn’t have involved themselves in trading Bitcoin. Many are now regretting why they involved themselves in trading after losing some funds.

Some people just see others doing it, and they also want to do it. This mindset often leads people to trading. I once started with trading before I later transitioned to Bitcoin investment, simply because I didn’t have someone to guide me or explain that there are numerous benefits in Bitcoin investment. Trading, on the other hand, involves high risk.

The truth is, nobody likes to lose money. People who are into trading are essentially gambling because they’re just trying their luck time and time again. With Bitcoin investing, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, an investor still holds the same number of Bitcoins, and there is always future hope for investors. However, in trading, once someone loses, they’ve lost, and their money is gone nothing like having future hope.

[Spaceman1000$]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

some people start trading all because they believe that they want make quick money but i may sell some didn’t see anyone to guide them or explain the benefits between trading and investment and risks involves. If many had known, they wouldn’t have involved themselves in trading Bitcoin. Many are now regretting why they involved themselves in trading after losing some funds.

Some people just see others doing it, and they also want to do it. This mindset often leads people to trading. I once started with trading before I later transitioned to Bitcoin investment, simply because I didn’t have someone to guide me or explain that there are numerous benefits in Bitcoin investment. Trading, on the other hand, involves high risk.

The truth is, nobody likes to lose money. People who are into trading are essentially gambling because they’re just trying their luck time and time again. With Bitcoin investing, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, an investor still holds the same number of Bitcoins, and there is always future hope for investors. However, in trading, once someone loses, they’ve lost, and their money is gone nothing like having future hope.

The truth is that, most of the flashy parts of crypto benefit are always flaunted by traders, so there is this make believe that is in the public domain that pains a very bright and profitable side of trading, so it captures a lot of public glare, that is why year in year out you still see a lot of people still trooping into the trading aspect of crypto, funny enough they actually play down the risk factors that are involved with trading which is why a lot of people still fall victim.

Bitcoin investors know the rigorous processes that they've gone through over the years to earn their profit, so they really don't have time to start flaunting it for public consumption, hence they are always reserved and less of talkatives unlike traders.

[Cgrexp]

Trading with bitcoin is a very big mistake for anybody, not just newbies, it shows lack of patience, but beyond that, it also shows complete lack of understanding of how bitcoin works, its not a get-rich quick scheme, it's also not some kind of a magic trick where you wave a wand and the price jumps up on your order, it takes time and should never be used as a source of getting quick cash, this has made many people bankrupt and is still doing so to people who are refusing to understand that bitcoin market it for investing not trading, if a person is deciding to trade with shitcoins, that is their business as is the losses the will accumulate in the process, but never go into bitcoin with the intention of trading.

If we look at the data between traders and investors who are successful with their respective jobs, of course there is still a higher percentage of traders who fail than investors who are unsuccessful because on average almost all Bitcoin investors always manage to make a profit as long as they can be patient for several years by continuing to run their investments routinely. So we can conclude that trading with anything including Bitcoin is a step that contains a higher level of risk so it is very natural for some people to avoid trading and prefer to just make investments without having to bother their heads to keep looking at price charts in the market for Bitcoin or other coins.

I think it is mostly greed that make some people make the decision of trading Bitcoin rather than investing and holding. They believe that investing is too slow and will not give the kind of fast profits they want hence they need fast way of making the profits and trading is one thing that looks like it holds the answer even though in the end it is not always as easy as it seems. Trading is very risky and something not meant for those who are not ready to lose their money. Investing on the hand, is more reliable in the sense that it gives the assurance of profits when held for a long period of time.

some people start trading all because they believe that they want make quick money but i may sell some didn’t see anyone to guide them or explain the benefits between trading and investment and risks involves. If many had known, they wouldn’t have involved themselves in trading Bitcoin. Many are now regretting why they involved themselves in trading after losing some funds.

Some people just see others doing it, and they also want to do it. This mindset often leads people to trading. I once started with trading before I later transitioned to Bitcoin investment, simply because I didn’t have someone to guide me or explain that there are numerous benefits in Bitcoin investment. Trading, on the other hand, involves high risk.

The truth is, nobody likes to lose money. People who are into trading are essentially gambling because they’re just trying their luck time and time again. With Bitcoin investing, even if the price of Bitcoin goes down, an investor still holds the same number of Bitcoins, and there is always future hope for investors. However, in trading, once someone loses, they’ve lost, and their money is gone nothing like having future hope.

There is a lot of confusion among investors about the difference between trading and investing and the risks and safety of investing. Trading is generally risky because it is directly related to the ups and downs of the market and investors can make or lose money quickly. On the other hand, if you want to invest in Bitcoin for the long term and if you can hold on to it even if the price drops and expect the future price to increase, then patience and a long-term perspective are required. Any investment has risks, but it is also possible to manage that risk properly. The DCA strategy is very effective in long-term investments and it plays an important role in reducing risk. The DCA strategy keeps the average purchase price of the investment stable and protects it from market volatility. It is a safe and powerful way for investors to increase the possibility of long-term profits. It is good to make decisions with confidence in both trading and investing. Since trading changes very quickly, the right steps should be taken by looking at the market reaction in favorable situations because most people expect quick profits in trading, but on the contrary, there is high risk and you can easily face losses. In a volatile market like Bitcoin, long-term investments have low risks and have high chances of future profits. However, it is most important to understand your financial situation and risk-taking ability and make the right decisions by creating a proper plan.

[Stormisover]

If holding bitcoin for a year and sell it is called Investment according to you then what will you call some one who holds for 4 years and above, you should know today that holding bitcoin for a year and sell is not an investment but gambling / trading, as an investor you are supposed to buy bitcoin and hodl for long before even thinking of thinking of sell bitcoin those that sells in short time sometimes regret why not hodl bitcoin for long as a new investor your thoughts should be how you can buy more bitcoin from your discretionary Income and hodl for long regularly buying with the dca strategy you can buy bitcoin every weeks or every months consistently for 4-10 and hodl.

Buying and selling Bitcoin within one year could be called a short-term investment. But the truth is that there is no guarantee that you will make a profit within one year of Bitcoin investment. If you have a one year plan there is a high chance that you might sell at a loss. It is better to have a long-term approach because it might lead to more profit, help you to overcome FUD and save you the stress of always monitoring the market

If actually Bitcoin is the subject matter then buying and selling within the period of one year apparently has nothing to be called anything related to investment but trading because one year is too short for your investment to experience the power of compounded value of your investment, a cycle which is four years would have been better to be described as a short term investment in my perception while four to 10 years or more can be called a long term investment.