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March 06, 2024, 11:12:33 PM
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Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
There is a psychology that says, there people who depends on your success to succeed in life.

This statement applies to gambling addiction, if one becomes addicted to gambling to the extent that he or she couldn't make a living, it's certain that at people whom if he was successful would have become successful too through him may not be successful any more psychologically but it can also be falsifiable.

Imagine that of you make it in life and open a company, and you have 1000 workers depending on the salary you pay them just, imagine that you failed to be successful because of gambling addiction you have indirectly caused a 1000 people to be jobless at some point and at the same time some of the can even become poor and broke forever because you failed go do right by yourself. its just a little truth.


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March 06, 2024, 11:38:49 PM
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As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.

Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?


Society, in general, will also be affected by gambling addiction. It's a big failure of society and the government if they have a huge number of gambling addicts. There will be a significant rise in criminality perpetrated by those addicted to gambling who, because of gambling addiction, commit robbery and crimes just to sustain their addiction.
Peace and order are very important in a society but if they cannot sustain and maintain peace and order, there will be chaos which is why the government prohibits, restricts, and regulates gambling because it can lead to addiction that will eventually lead to a rise of criminality and everybody will suffer.
Yes there are many scenarios that can occur that can connect between a gambling addict and a person who is initially completely unfamiliar with gambling and over time a gambling addict will be able to have an indirect impact on others which in turn makes people enter and fall into consciously and unconsciously, and scenarios like this happen in several places or what it means is that it doesn't just happen once but this kind of scenario will continue to occur over time so that the population of people involved in gambling and also gamblers who enter the addiction phase is increasing.

However this is a concerning situation, the worst thing or possibility is yes as you said that there is a potential to increase crime in a country, this happens and is done by most of the addicted gamblers where they want to gamble but do not have the money to fund their gambling activities, so obviously as we know that addicted gamblers always do not hesitate to do things out of control, They seem to justify all means just to get money to fund their gambling activities in the way that you mentioned, namely robbing, stealing or deceiving others and obviously this will cause a lot of chaos, and the hope is that we hope that the government can pay attention to matters of concern like this and build new rules that are effective enough to reduce the population of gamblers so that the crime rate can decrease.

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March 06, 2024, 11:40:53 PM
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I remember long ago I had a guy in my karate classes, who was really into addictive stuff. Not drugs, but he would play games all day and had given up school. Well, to the eyes of the rest of us it seemed like he was causing problems to his family, but we had no idea what was happening behind closed doors. Turns out his father was really strict and wanted to show a perfect image to the outside world. He would use this guy's daughter as a role model and constantly berate him for now following suit. The guy just wanted to earn a living working as a laborer, have a car, drive around and live a simple life. But this fell short of his father's dreams.

A couple of years later after I had stopped karate I learn that his father died of a heart attack. Immediately I thought that it was his addiction to games and gambling that must have driven his father into this state. But it was only a little later that his mother confessed to our family that his dad was abusive and they had separated, although up until his death he would force her to not admit the truth.

This taught me that tough situations often times make people become addicts. If you have someone struggling with addiction near you, try to help them before they have to take more responsibility. Because surely having responsibility while still addicted and before managing to get out of it can have its consequences, also to other people surrounding the addict.

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March 06, 2024, 11:52:04 PM
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Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
Employers can also be indirect victims of the problems that a gambling addict brings. I remember a long time ago when I once had a gambling addict working for me who I felt I could control, and then I gave him money to go get materials for work for me but he ended up using up all the money for gambling, playing virtual games and squandering it all. I was a victim to his gambling addiction as his employer, because it forced me to spend my personal money to get the materials required for delivery of the customers job. Indirectly as the employer of an addict, I became a victim.

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March 07, 2024, 02:19:44 AM
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There will always be indirect victims that will be experienced by people who do not gamble or are innocent, namely the family of the gambler himself, the family is the first person to be harmed because they are dependent on each other. Indeed, the impact of gambling addiction is very large if the gambler is involved in loans, violence and also emotions. It will be increasingly difficult for them to stop and they will become increasingly out of control and even the family will be overwhelmed by their tough attitude and don't feel guilty. The only way is to give him a little encouragement to stop it, but if he doesn't have the intention to stop then it will be useless drain.

I always think that every gambling addict must be taught a life lesson so that they don't become dependent on their family, namely by leaving them alone and letting them live their own life with their gambling and when they are on the verge of ruin and despair they will realize by themselves that gambling has destroyed them. his future and he will finally regret it at that time then his family will help and provide assistance by giving good advice and I am sure he will stop even though it is a little difficult after that of course there will be no more indirect victims Wink

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March 07, 2024, 02:34:17 AM
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It is quite unfair that gamblers get addicted, and use their addiction to disturb the peace and welfare of their families and relatives, even with their friends, by taking loans and debt without being able to pay them and leave the responsibility for their loved ones to carter. Most times the family members will have no option than to help them pay these debts, but the worst of it is when the gambler is bring shame to the family and dragging the family name on the mud.

Some spouse might not be able to tolerate such attitude from the partner, and they will seek for divorce due to the frustration that the addicted gambler is putting them through. While some will take it as their responsibility to handle whatever ugly situation that the gambler attracts to himself. It is good that as a gambler, we try to caution ourselves on how will go about our gambling activities, and how much that we are using to gamble, so that we don't end up becoming an addict, and become a problem to our friends and families. Gamble responsible.
That's not unfair but that's how relationships happen, so it's important for us to remind our family or friends so that we are not affected too, after all we have a sense of responsibility to people who are close to us especially family, surely we are affected.

Yes, unless you don't care about them, and ignore them when they ask you for help, but still those gambling addicts will ask for help from others who might help them. Maybe there are some couples who don't tolerate it but you also need to know that maybe when your loved one will be in a different situation, it will be quite complicated if you mix it with feelings, but certainly a gambling addict will have a bad impact on his environment.

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March 07, 2024, 02:45:03 AM
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With gambling addictions, a person will become addicted to gambling by watching gambling every day better to leave gambling companions and stop going anywhere related to gambling. Play is a fun thing but not all games are fun. such as gambling. Although gambling is played in the name of gambling it is essentially something different from playing. Gambling is a game with which the issues of addiction and addiction come up very strongly. Once an addiction has developed both time and energy are wasted on gambling. Even after hundreds of attempts there is no change in the habit.
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March 07, 2024, 03:45:27 AM
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That's not unfair but that's how relationships happen, so it's important for us to remind our family or friends so that we are not affected too, after all we have a sense of responsibility to people who are close to us especially family, surely we are affected.

Yes, unless you don't care about them, and ignore them when they ask you for help, but still those gambling addicts will ask for help from others who might help them. Maybe there are some couples who don't tolerate it but you also need to know that maybe when your loved one will be in a different situation, it will be quite complicated if you mix it with feelings, but certainly a gambling addict will have a bad impact on his environment.

with the problem of addiction, of course it will harm us primarily, where the loss can be in various aspects, with finances that will definitely become a mess, where when we have a certain amount of money all we can think about is gambling. Therefore, it is possible that gambling will only be done when you have a certain amount of money, while the needs that should be paid attention to may be put aside first. If you are addicted to gambling then it is very likely that the priority will be gambling. Many people experience big losses because they are too ambitious in gambling, because if we are too ambitious it can sometimes end up trapping us. What you say is correct, of course we have responsibilities towards our own family, even if we are not married, there is still no harm in us being able to help with the family's finances or economy, besides, parents will be happy and proud if we can help with the family's finances or economy. When we become addicted to gambling, of course the bad effects can spread to the family, such as finances falling apart or relationships becoming bad. Addiction tends to turn a person into a more stubborn person, and of course this can have an impact on family relationships.

I think if they are still addicted and don't have awareness, chances are they will only ask for financial help, they will ask for money to go back to gambling. Unless they have the awareness to recover from their addiction, maybe at that time they need help from their family such as encouragement so that they can remain consistent in their recovery. It is also clear that the bad effects of gambling addiction will not only be experienced by the main perpetrator, of course the bad effects can occur on the people around him.

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March 07, 2024, 05:15:03 AM
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Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
Employers can also be indirect victims of the problems that a gambling addict brings. I remember a long time ago when I once had a gambling addict working for me who I felt I could control, and then I gave him money to go get materials for work for me but he ended up using up all the money for gambling, playing virtual games and squandering it all. I was a victim to his gambling addiction as his employer, because it forced me to spend my personal money to get the materials required for delivery of the customers job. Indirectly as the employer of an addict, I became a victim.
A similar situation happened to a bet company agent who owned a bet shop, although I didn't knew him directly but overhead him while he was making a complain to a friend of his about one of the boys he employed as cashier to work for him, how the cashier has at different time's used the money in one of the computers he is in charge of to play virtual games for himself and due to this he loses money that's above his pay cheque before the end of the month. And the young man was complaining of how the employees'  attitude has affected his usual monthly profit from the business and has therefore decided to sack him in order to save his business.

Something about gambling addicts, they are never to be trusted with access to money, it doesn't matter how big or little the amount of the money could be they just don't think about the impending consequences should they lose that money, all their focus is just to satisfy their urge and it's others that later suffer the negative impact of their actions. 



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March 07, 2024, 06:01:09 AM
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Gambling addiction can affect not just the gambler, but also their family, friend and loved ones. It can also impact workplaces and communities, with decreased  productivity, absenteeism, and negative impacts on mental and emotional well-being.
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March 07, 2024, 06:50:57 AM
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I always think that every gambling addict must be taught a life lesson so that they don't become dependent on their family, namely by leaving them alone and letting them live their own life with their gambling and when they are on the verge of ruin and despair they will realize by themselves that gambling has destroyed them. his future and he will finally regret it at that time then his family will help and provide assistance by giving good advice and I am sure he will stop even though it is a little difficult after that of course there will be no more indirect victims Wink
Yes, if they are given a sense of reality, they can learn to exercise controlling gambling. But almost everyone has an idea about gamblers that they know everything and make any decisions. Many of the addicted gamblers do not have a good financial situation but when they gamble and lose, they do not hesitate to gamble even with the money to cover the family expenses. He knows that he has no way of recovering any of that money if he loses, but he still takes part in the bet. Once a gambler becomes addicted it is difficult but not impossible to recover from it. If a small portion of income is used for gambling on a monthly basis, the gambler's effort to recover will be reduced even if he loses, but if he loses using more money, he will definitely lose more.

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March 07, 2024, 08:13:37 AM
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As with any addiction, the effects of addiction to games of chance and betting do not fall on the gambler alone. It affects the family, friends, relatives, and everyone around him, and may lead to the deterioration of their conditions.
Gambling indeed has many impacts on its users, but apart from negative impacts, positive impacts have also been felt by the users themselves, including family, friends and also the surrounding environment..
You have just dropped a piece that I have been on with, pondering about it whenever I read about gambling addicts. Is it that they prefer the negative aspect of the impact of gambling on them tuan the positive that a whole lot of gamblers that are not addicts are testifying of . In as much as you don't have to be an addict for you be guaranteed a lump win in gambling I see no reason why gamblers should allow themselve's into addiction.
Its because that is mostly the end game of those gamblers, they will eventually end up being addicted just because they let themselves to let loose and let their greed to take over, but sometimes what's making gamblers addicted is because of tthe regret of losing money from gambling and they will try to recover their loss and eventually without a notice that they are letting themselves to become addicted to gambling, but for those addicted to gambling that letting other people around them involve because of his addiction is the worst, it means that the gambler is not in a good state anymore because he doesn't carr about other people around them, normally their family and friends, worst if they already have their own family imagine the situation that family will be in.

So if you can't control yourselves anymore, at least don't let other people be affected and involved in your problems; they may help you, but if they do wake up, it means they are ready to be involved in your chaotic life just to help you.
it's for the avoidance of the chase of loss to recover money that gamblers are extolled to gamble with the money they won't find hard to let go at a loss of it. The venture for a recovery of money lost while gambling has a very percentage of causing more loses than it can lead to a recovery and this is something past experience and stories of gambler's has proven. Yet some gamblers don't want to learn from those experiences.
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March 07, 2024, 08:20:03 AM
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To the list of indirect victims of gambling addicted I can add work colleagues. If their work depends from the work addicted person do, then those who work with them are in danger of either having their work done incorrectly or havent done at all. Based on a topic Who among you here is gambling at work? people either gamble at work or have such gambling addicted colleagues. This is actually a serious problem, as a person can get fired because of them.

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March 07, 2024, 08:31:53 AM
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Job? Business? Those things.
Imagine if a gambling addict cannot take care of his business anymore because he is drowned in his addiction. It means no more time to do whatever is needed with that business. Even if a business owner has helpers to do the job, he must still manage it so that it won't crumble that could lead to bankruptcy.
If it is a job, I can tell base on experience that it could affect your performance by a lot when you start gambling. Yes, not just the gambling addicts but even those who just gamble occasionally. There will be times that we want to chase our losses and that will linger in our minds making us unable to work at our full focus.
It could also be mean that our jobs can be on the line if our supervisors caught us idling or doing something else that is not work related. It will be better if we can forget about gambling while we are at our work or business. There's nothing good that it give to us, it should only be done at our free time or if we are resting and wanted a little bit of entertainment.

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March 07, 2024, 10:03:25 AM
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Gambling messes things up for more than just the person playing. Families get hit hard because relationships break down, trust goes out the window and it's like the gambler forgets their partner exists. Money-wise, it's a mess too. Debts, selling stuff and sometimes even hurting family members and  those trying to help end up in the chaos, becoming partners in a losing game. So yeah gambling addiction isn't just a personal problem, it's a wrecking ball that smashes through everything in its path

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March 07, 2024, 10:23:51 AM
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@OP has mentioned indirect victims of gambling addiction because these are the people who are often contacted by someone who gambles so they can fulfill their desire to have money to gamble. People who gamble don't think about other people's feelings because they just want to have money to be able to continue gambling.
They will not see what impact it will have on other people because for people who gamble frequently, it is not necessary and they will let other people suffer the consequences. This has become a big problem for people who gamble and the people around them because at least the people around the gambler have to bear the problems caused by the gambler.
Maybe if it's only once or twice, it's not a problem, but if the gambler can't control himself, the gambler can cause even bigger problems to the people around him. The people around the gambler should be able to help find a way out of the problem the gambler is facing so that he can realize his mistake.

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March 07, 2024, 10:34:03 AM
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although unfortunately gambling addiction is a disease that has destroyed society, it is still not a greater number than drug and alcohol addiction. Governments are very tough when it comes to gambling, they put harsh measures against gambling, even going so far as to ban gambling in some countries. Certain religions also prohibit gambling, so the number of people who gamble worldwide is very small in relation to the number of people who consume alcohol. I don't want this comparison to say that we shouldn't take gambling addiction very seriously. But we also need to look at other things that are causing greater harm. governments don't ban beer companies, they don't ban wine companies, whiskey companies, they don't ban gin companies

because governments understand that alcoholic beverage companies are not to blame, the fault lies with the people who abuse alcohol. I agree with that, now I don't understand why governments don't have the same understanding with gambling and why people suffer from bullying when they gamble and when they become addicted to gambling. For example, if a person becomes addicted to beer, people are not shocked, they deal with the problem in a milder way even though they see that the person is destroying his life and the lives of his family and friends and even his neighbors, this It also happens to people addicted to drugs. society is lenient when it sees that a person is addicted to drugs, they do not pursue the source of the drug and arrest the drug suppliers

now when society discovers that a person is addicted to gambling, they condemn that person and governments quickly accuse the casinos and put harsh measures against the casinos, in my opinion we have to look at the addiction in an alarming way and that it must be focused on the addict, treat the addict so that they are cured and always carry out campaigns to warn people about the danger of exaggeration, the danger of abusing things. Addiction is something that destroys a society, which is why it is very important to avoid addiction. An addicted person will commit crimes to support the addiction

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March 07, 2024, 10:35:43 AM
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Gambling addicts are more indirect victims families with them live in bad conditions. They forget that they have a family and are more engrossed in gambling. They don't hesitate to borrow when they can't repay the loan I have heard many stories of stealing and selling household items. To solve this problem the person has to come to a decision on his own that it is better to get out before something is destroyed.

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March 07, 2024, 10:46:42 AM
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Well, the symptoms of gambling addiction can have major bodily ramifications, and some people will go to extreme lengths to satisfy their desire even if they lose. However, some people may be unaware that they are being affected, and this can lead to debt, job loss, divorce, and even homelessness, as well as depression, guilt, and mental disorders as a result of the damage they cause themselves, as well as health problems such as high blood pressure or heart disease, so it is best to gamble with caution to avoid any negative side effects.
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March 07, 2024, 10:48:31 AM
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There's a saying in my dialect that translates that it's the relatives of a mad person that feels ashamed, instead of the mad person, so you don't really blame the family of a gambling addict when they try to offer help to the victim out of love, because of the shame that he's bringing to the family. I've seen a gambler who scammed their town's association and squandered all the money, using large portion of it to gamble, in the end he lost everything, when the town association found out that he was the scammer, they decided to confiscate the family's property, then the family members had to contribute to pay every penny that he stole. It was traumatizing for the family members to bear the shame and repay money that an irresponsible family member scammed the town association.

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