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March 07, 2024, 11:13:26 AM
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Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
There is a psychology that says, there people who depends on your success to succeed in life.

This statement applies to gambling addiction, if one becomes addicted to gambling to the extent that he or she couldn't make a living, it's certain that at people whom if he was successful would have become successful too through him may not be successful any more psychologically but it can also be falsifiable.

Imagine that of you make it in life and open a company, and you have 1000 workers depending on the salary you pay them just, imagine that you failed to be successful because of gambling addiction you have indirectly caused a 1000 people to be jobless at some point and at the same time some of the can even become poor and broke forever because you failed go do right by yourself. its just a little truth.

My mentor used to say that a human soul starts to live the moment he depends on himself, don't let others be the driver of your future success he said, if you fail it's your failure, at least you believe in yourself, if you believe in other and the other failed, you don't become stronger, the other just did, because the other person is the one that made the wrong choice, you become nothing.

This is why some people run away from others when they noticed that they are into gambling, they run because they believe that gamblers always drag down everyone around them, they make stupid decisions that will affect everyone around them, so they run away from them to avoid all this.

I don't like my life decisions hanging on the neck of a fellow human being like me, this is why I don't like relying on a single decision, anything could make it not to work, so I plan other ways too, if one doesn't work another will, and relying on a gambler or someone who is into gambling is not a good idea, we are not even promised tomorrow.

When someone promise you something tomorrow they might not wake up in the morning.

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March 07, 2024, 11:51:35 AM
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Indirect victims of our addiction are those people who never feel worried about our situation. These are the groups of people who don't bother to help you out of addiction even some of your friends and family members can be considered as one of them.

We care less about these people as they don't care about us as well. That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.



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March 07, 2024, 12:01:20 PM
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Indirect victims of our addiction are those people who never feel worried about our situation. These are the groups of people who don't bother to help you out of addiction even some of your friends and family members can be considered as one of them.
sadly but they are also the victims because sometimes we are even stealing money from our family just to gamble .
I have seen this in my cousin that steals His mothers ATH and withdraw thousand of dollars just to gamble back in College days.

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what? they care nothing about you? is that a joke?they are not showing being concern but they are mate.
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That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.

when you are addicted? you care nothing about everything and that is the sad reality of gambling addiction.

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March 07, 2024, 12:17:56 PM
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If you live with a gambling addict and you have no way to move to other place, it's better to create an agreement letter that the family or people who live in your house didn't responsible with the gambling addict debts, so in case he's in debts, you don't need to worry.

With gambling addictions, a person will become addicted to gambling by watching gambling every day better to leave gambling companions and stop going anywhere related to gambling. Play is a fun thing but not all games are fun. such as gambling. Although gambling is played in the name of gambling it is essentially something different from playing. Gambling is a game with which the issues of addiction and addiction come up very strongly. Once an addiction has developed both time and energy are wasted on gambling. Even after hundreds of attempts there is no change in the habit.
I'm not sure why you can say this, it's like gambling is bad and no one should try to gamble otherwise they will become an addict.



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March 07, 2024, 12:21:53 PM
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Of the many who answered who was indirectly affected by gambling addicts, the average answer was those who were close to the addict himself, whether it was family or friends in his neighborhood, maybe for family it must be clear because they have blood relations and other things like that, including friendship.

The funny thing about friends who are indirect victims of gambling addicts is that when someone who does not know gambling but hangs out with gambling addicts, he will be said to be a gambler too by residents, this claim often occurs in environments where gambling is considered very bad, including in my neighborhood, even though that person does not know gambling at all but is also labeled as a gambler because the gambling addict who has been recognized by residents hangs out with him.

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March 07, 2024, 12:24:54 PM
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We care less about these people as they don't care about us as well. That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.

I think this depends on the culture of your country because here in my country, Asian country specifically. You can’t continue your addiction without receiving heavy scolding from your family and criticism to your neighbors. You can’t become a gambling addicts here without noticing by others or being ignored since everything here can be gossip against you.

Actually being ignored when you have problem sometimes works well since you can’t affect them. They don’t think about your problem which means you’re the only one affected and not your family. On this topic, I’m skeptical why a gambling addict will show his problem on family while this problem typically being kept and not shown since it’s nothing to be proud of.   Huh

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March 07, 2024, 01:21:04 PM
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We care less about these people as they don't care about us as well. That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.

I think this depends on the culture of your country because here in my country, Asian country specifically. You can’t continue your addiction without receiving heavy scolding from your family and criticism to your neighbors. You can’t become a gambling addicts here without noticing by others or being ignored since everything here can be gossip against you.

Actually being ignored when you have problem sometimes works well since you can’t affect them. They don’t think about your problem which means you’re the only one affected and not your family. On this topic, I’m skeptical why a gambling addict will show his problem on family while this problem typically being kept and not shown since it’s nothing to be proud of.   Huh

That is true that addiction,when someone becomes truly addicted he forgets everyone and cares for nothing except gambling and fueling this devilish passion which brings nothing but misery in the long run.

I have said it some other times but repeating is always good for this,when I was young and used to go to the biggest lotto club/casino I remember well 2 persons who in life had lost everything because of gambling,wife,family,work and they were the true image of failure in life yet they kept staying in that casino every day since morning till evening.

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March 07, 2024, 02:20:34 PM
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I have a similar problem with a family friend that I call a brother, he is addicted to gambling and I keep telling him to stop but he won't, I tried teaching him how to be a responsible gambler but he can't help it.

Now I warned him about dragging others into his mess, if he plans to be irresponsible about gambling he should face it like a man and go down alone without dragging others around him into the mess.

This is my own way of living, if I am to go down I go down alone, I take risks that I only can handle, in my own world no one cares about me but myself, and I apply this fact to my life, I learn to clean up my shit by myself.

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March 07, 2024, 03:40:32 PM
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Yeah it seems like this problem is already become a norm right now because anyone can gamble using a cellphone even it's the cheap one. It's really sad to see the hard workers in a family only live from paycheck to paycheck because the money is used to buy monthly needs and they can't save the money because the gambling addict will steal the money.

Now I warned him about dragging others into his mess, if he plans to be irresponsible about gambling he should face it like a man and go down alone without dragging others around him into the mess.
Even you've said this, believe me, he won't face it like a man because he wasn't think about the future. If he's a man, he won't become a gambling addict in the first place.

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March 07, 2024, 06:06:05 PM
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Of course, there are many indirect victims of gambling addiction. Can you add more?
It seems quite clear that everything you have written represents all the bad effects of addiction because the most important thing is the family, relatives, people around you and the future of the addict.
If we talk about anyone who will be affected by the bad effects of this addiction, there will definitely be no end to it because it includes most of the people closest to them who will definitely experience this badness.

I've seen people who are addicted and I know him but not very closely and what he did was he indulged in his addiction to the point that he had to sell his house even though his wife had sold all the things she owned until her children couldn't go to school because her husband used the money for gambling and in the end his wife asked to separate and now the person is depressed because of his own addiction losing his home, wife and children.
this is quite a simple example for anyone so that we can avoid addiction or lose a bright future and remain a healthy gambler and remain consistent with our own limits.

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March 07, 2024, 06:19:56 PM
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In response to the op, it is commonly said that a tree does not make a forest, and there is a reason for that, and that reason is that, one tree is not strong enough, and can not give the type of shade a forest needs to be called or referred to as a forest.

What am I saying, families are like a forest and same way a tree does not make a forest, same way a person does not make a family, and as a family, what affect one should affect others, this is why it's called family.
In a family where one person is addicted to gambling, and the rest of the family members feel comfortable like nothing is happening, then it simply means that such family is not united as one, for if one person is having financial difficulties, it is the responsibility of the other family members to help that one out.

So indeed, addiction to gambling is not something that affects just one person, except the person Is alone and doesn't have a family, but in a case where the person has a family, that addiction surely would affect the other people in that family, therefore, such is no longer a problem of one person but have become a family problem, some thing they can come to together to find solution to.

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March 07, 2024, 06:58:28 PM
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I think this depends on the culture of your country because here in my country, Asian country specifically. You can’t continue your addiction without receiving heavy scolding from your family and criticism to your neighbors. You can’t become a gambling addicts here without noticing by others or being ignored since everything here can be gossip against you.

Actually being ignored when you have problem sometimes works well since you can’t affect them. They don’t think about your problem which means you’re the only one affected and not your family. On this topic, I’m skeptical why a gambling addict will show his problem on family while this problem typically being kept and not shown since it’s nothing to be proud of.   Huh

That is true that addiction,when someone becomes truly addicted he forgets everyone and cares for nothing except gambling and fueling this devilish passion which brings nothing but misery in the long run.

I have said it some other times but repeating is always good for this,when I was young and used to go to the biggest lotto club/casino I remember well 2 persons who in life had lost everything because of gambling,wife,family,work and they were the true image of failure in life yet they kept staying in that casino every day since morning till evening.

Yes, that is the worst stage in gambling when someone really can't keep their involvement well, none other than because the impact is as you said that it is very bad, there will be a lot of problems that occur when someone enters the addiction phase, they will lose everything they have, especially the valuables they have and for financial problems it is clear that they will have a concerning financial situation that sometimes they even have difficulty meeting needs such as food costs, and when someone who is married has financial problems due to gambling addiction then obviously the next problem will spread to family relationships which in the end there will be no harmonious words anymore and can even end up with separation.

That's right, there is nothing wrong with repeating the idea of advice because after all this is the best that we fellow gamblers should do in order to stay in a safe and comfortable situation, there are many examples of other people's events that we can make as lessons and one of them is like the incident experienced by the 2 people you described here, it is a very concerning situation and I'm sure we all don't want to have the same fate as them, therefore of course treating gambling activities with the recommended approach such as always limiting gambling according to our abilities is always the best choice for long-term security.

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March 07, 2024, 07:06:30 PM
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Of the many who answered who was indirectly affected by gambling addicts, the average answer was those who were close to the addict himself, whether it was family or friends in his neighborhood, maybe for family it must be clear because they have blood relations and other things like that, including friendship.
Most responses in this thread focused on the indirect effect of gambling on close relations. But the society also suffers indirectly. Gambling addiction can lead to people engaging in criminal activities just to raise money to satisfy the uncontrollable desire to gamble. Some people have engaged in illegal activities like robbery, kidnappings,  scams, etc, just because they want to get money to finance gambling. It is the community that suffers these indirect consequences because the area will become insecure for the inhabitants.

The organization in which the gambler works also suffers from the gambling addiction of employees. Gamble addicts might not give their best on the job because they are more concerned about gambling. With a lack of commitment to work, the productivity of such staff will reduce leading to the loss of human resources. Addicts might even engage in sharp practices in their workplace because they want to feed their hunger for betting.

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March 07, 2024, 07:12:24 PM
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Totally agree with all what's written in the OP, but there is one basic rule about gambling that will prevent one from going to this length,and it's called " gambling with money you can afford to lose!"
The main reason this is said to everyone is to ensure you don't have any regrets that can spill over to broken relationships with family and friends, suicides, debt etc But then again, sometimes I think society can be to judgemental such that a person that needs help with their addiction will shy away from getting it because gambling is something that is sometimes frowned upon depending on where you come from.


Otherwise other indirect effects of gambling addiction
  • drop in productivity
  • loss of skilled labour, should a gifted person commit suicide
  • creates introverts

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March 07, 2024, 07:33:16 PM
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Employers can also be indirect victims of the problems that a gambling addict brings. I remember a long time ago when I once qhad a gambling addict working for me who I felt I could control, and then I gave him money to go get materials for work for me but he ended up using up all the money for gambling, playing virtual games and squandering it all.

Employers and employees can both be victims of gambling addiction, gambling addicts aren't the best set of individuals to work for or to work with. They're annoying and also very lazy workers, they can be late to work or fail to finish a work on time as all they care about me is how they can finish what they're doing and go back to gambling. Gambling addicts only cares about gambling and they can use money meant for the company business to gamble and delay what the money was supposed to do.

Every individual that's associated with a gambling addict is a victim in one way or the other. Gambling addict easily gets emotion swings as they're gambling regularly and they won't win most of the time then they'll find those that they can pour their frustration on and those around them are the recipient of the emotions. Avoid gambling addicts is a good way to stay happy as they're very annoying.

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March 07, 2024, 07:46:11 PM
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Indirect victims of our addiction are those people who never feel worried about our situation. These are the groups of people who don't bother to help you out of addiction even some of your friends and family members can be considered as one of them.

We care less about these people as they don't care about us as well. That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.
   Infact there is more to it, some gamblers don't really care about their lose anytime they loss there money in games they stake, mostly some of them don't seems to know that they more they gamble the more they also get addicted to it.
   However additions is addictions you cannot control it when you are not disciplined enough to face the challenges of it, you can be able to limit yourself from additcions when you are discipline enough to control yourself from gambling.
   Some people can't do it alone, I means some gamblers can't can not limit themselves from gambling, mostly when the gambler have something to do with addictions, gambler that is addicted needs a helping hands for them to stop or limit themselves from the additions.

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March 07, 2024, 07:52:37 PM
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We care less about these people as they don't care about us as well. That is how bad the addiction affects relationships as many people will stay away from us even some of our family members and close friends. But we don't think about it instead, help ourselves to prevent from falling into addiction because many people will start to hate us if that happens.

I think this depends on the culture of your country because here in my country, Asian country specifically. You can’t continue your addiction without receiving heavy scolding from your family and criticism to your neighbors. You can’t become a gambling addicts here without noticing by others or being ignored since everything here can be gossip against you.

Actually being ignored when you have problem sometimes works well since you can’t affect them. They don’t think about your problem which means you’re the only one affected and not your family. On this topic, I’m skeptical why a gambling addict will show his problem on family while this problem typically being kept and not shown since it’s nothing to be proud of.   Huh

That is true that addiction,when someone becomes truly addicted he forgets everyone and cares for nothing except gambling and fueling this devilish passion which brings nothing but misery in the long run.

I have said it some other times but repeating is always good for this,when I was young and used to go to the biggest lotto club/casino I remember well 2 persons who in life had lost everything because of gambling,wife,family,work and they were the true image of failure in life yet they kept staying in that casino every day since morning till evening.
You would really be losing it all if you cant be able to control up yourself on doing gambling or having that control or moderation because once you do get addicted,.then you arent just risking the bank account you do have and money with it but also in other posessions that you do have which might be ended up on getting loaned or being the ones who you would really be able to bet on. If ever it turns out to be still an unlucky
condition then you would really be ending up on losing it all and this would really be something a disaster. People wont really be able to realize those stuffs and mistakes on the time that they arent
still experiencing those hardship situation on which it would really be always best that you should really know on what you are doing and the things around that been affected.

People do make out those self realizations if they are on such condition on which they could really be able to avoid it if they were really just that sensible towards on the things that they are dealing
with and dont act out late.

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March 07, 2024, 07:59:26 PM
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That's how gambling is, if this activity is not controlled as well as possible, then this activity will only cause harm, both to ourselves and to the people around us. Where those who don't know about the gambling activities that we often do, just because of our bad behavior in gambling, they also have to bear the consequences of our bad behavior. They help us to get out of this situation, to show their concern for us. But how stupid a gambling addict is, where he tries to take advantage of this feeling of concern to perpetuate his desire to continue gambling. And when will a gambling addict regret his actions? He will only regret it when the care and trust of those closest to him is lost.

Therefore, we as gamblers have the potential to become addicted. Before bad things happen to us and those closest to us, try to continue to minimize the negative impacts and other losses involved in gambling, control ourselves as best as possible when gambling.

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March 07, 2024, 08:04:29 PM
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Of the many who answered who was indirectly affected by gambling addicts, the average answer was those who were close to the addict himself, whether it was family or friends in his neighborhood, maybe for family it must be clear because they have blood relations and other things like that, including friendship.

The funny thing about friends who are indirect victims of gambling addicts is that when someone who does not know gambling but hangs out with gambling addicts, he will be said to be a gambler too by residents, this claim often occurs in environments where gambling is considered very bad, including in my neighborhood, even though that person does not know gambling at all but is also labeled as a gambler because the gambling addict who has been recognized by residents hangs out with him.
Plus sometimes the act can actually rub off the person who doesn't know anything about gambling but seems to be comfortable with the addict himself playing these games and that's why some people tend to labels these friends as gamblers themselves because I know one thing for and thats the fact that you can't be hanging out with a gambler everything and actually not get influence to get involved in the act yourself especially when the gambler always tell you about his winning and never release the loses that he faces.

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March 07, 2024, 08:08:01 PM
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I feel like OP is preaching to the choir here. Nothing new, to say the least. We all know what gambling addiction can lead to and we have hundreds of threads here to prove it.

I have a similar problem with a family friend that I call a brother, he is addicted to gambling and I keep telling him to stop but he won't, I tried teaching him how to be a responsible gambler but he can't help it.

Now I warned him about dragging others into his mess, if he plans to be irresponsible about gambling he should face it like a man and go down alone without dragging others around him into the mess.

This is my own way of living, if I am to go down I go down alone, I take risks that I only can handle, in my own world no one cares about me but myself, and I apply this fact to my life, I learn to clean up my shit by myself.

Like with any addict you can't help him if he doesn't want that help. You can't move in with a n alcoholic to keep watch over him 24/7 and it's the same with your friend. You think you teach him how to be responsible, but he listens with one ear and lets it out with the other. He'll have to land at the bottom to learn his lesson.

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