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March 07, 2024, 10:37:56 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Thanks for your advice. Safety and observation is very important while a match is going on, because you can't really tell the kind of person you surrounded to. Their are some people that takes football so serious and personal and when the game is not going the way it is supposed to go they can go ahead to do anything to make sure the opponent fan gets hurt. Have seen a match that the game was not favouring the other opponent angry fans started disturbing the peace of the stadium and some people got injured.  In times like this some people have even lose life due to fans who are unable to control their emotions.

Football is a game I don't know why some fans takes it so personal, even the players playing game are not even worried about the game, but how some fans takes it so serious that they can do anything to hurt someone just because of the game.

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March 07, 2024, 10:40:39 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
This is so sad. When you are in a public place, always mind things which you will be saying, their are some unnecessary arguments which you are not suppose to involve yourself, sometimes just keep your opinion to yourself and keep quit. I feel bad for those people that were stabbed, but people that did that are suppose to be punished, why do you have to do that kind of crazy thing, no matter your condition, you should be able to control your anger, it shouldn’t get to the length of stabbing someone. Football is just suppose to be for fun, and unite people, it’s not suppose to separate people and kill people.
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March 07, 2024, 11:29:20 PM
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I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
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March 07, 2024, 11:37:15 PM
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They might have been mistaken for someone else, have engaged in banters during the match, or was just robbed by some people who thought that they can get away with what they did. There are many possibilities as to why these dudes are stabbed. Their possessions were taken from them, so there is that motive of stealing something. Regardless, the source article did not confirm whether they're in the country for watching the match and it's only a possibility. It can be tied to something else. Even so, people must always be vigilant on where they go and always ensure that they are not doing something that the locals might not like. Or better yet, avoid going out at night and on places wherein such crimes are commonplace.

This has nothing to do with sports betting or gambling in general, but they sure gambled with their chances going out at night on a neighborhood they're not familiar with.

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March 07, 2024, 11:45:37 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
This is so sad. When you are in a public place, always mind things which you will be saying, their are some unnecessary arguments which you are not suppose to involve yourself, sometimes just keep your opinion to yourself and keep quit. I feel bad for those people that were stabbed, but people that did that are suppose to be punished, why do you have to do that kind of crazy thing, no matter your condition, you should be able to control your anger, it shouldn’t get to the length of stabbing someone. Football is just suppose to be for fun, and unite people, it’s not suppose to separate people and kill people.
For those people who are really that paranoid when it comes to security then they wont really bother on going into arenas or public places on which they could potentially find these kind of troubles
but actually there's nothing wrong if you are really that going just for fun because not all the time these troubles been mold up, it is really just that sometimes our mind is really that advanced when it comes to this matter on which on the time that we do really be able to project out those kind possible situation or condition then you would really be considering out on having that kind of mindset
that you shouldnt really be going into these place which its a normal approach i would say. Dont be fearful and be alert all the times if ever you would be going into public places.

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March 08, 2024, 06:36:19 AM
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The players and the team owners should disavow such fans in the strongest terms possible. I really hope there can be a crackdown on violence in football fans one day.
the fans are part of the team and in this current social media age, once a fan is being bullied by either the players of the team he is supporting or the management of the club, it could go a long way in affecting other supporters would feel unsafe to express their love for the club in their own way.

I mean, what's the beauty of the game when supporters can't express their love for the team publicly? I know it's necessary that  everyone should know how to moderate his activity and not use his right against  someone's else's right but if fans can't bring out those energy we see in the stadium, watching matches would be damn boring. 

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March 08, 2024, 07:17:50 AM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.


Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Its more better to watch silently and celebrate when our favorite team can score rather than taunting other fan and create trouble since incident like this will happen. Also those aggressive fans should think about their favorite team will not help them if they face a lot of trouble for siding them that's why to avoid getting any conflict to anyone much better respect each other especially while watching them on live so we can avoid getting into serious troubles.

Sometimes we may carried away with our emotions but if people just have respect to other sports fan and avoid any trouble then for sure they can avoid any same like incident to happen.

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March 08, 2024, 07:18:09 AM
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Thanks for your advice. Safety and observation is very important while a match is going on, because you can't really tell the kind of person you surrounded to. Their are some people that takes football so serious and personal and when the game is not going the way it is supposed to go they can go ahead to do anything to make sure the opponent fan gets hurt. Have seen a match that the game was not favouring the other opponent angry fans started disturbing the peace of the stadium and some people got injured.  In times like this some people have even lose life due to fans who are unable to control their emotions.

Football is a game I don't know why some fans takes it so personal, even the players playing game are not even worried about the game, but how some fans takes it so serious that they can do anything to hurt someone just because of the game.
You're welcome. To be a sports fans now you have to be very vigilant for other fans because people are so desperate and a core fan that they would do anything for their club. Maybe that is the reason why they have to separate the home fans from the Away fans in the stadium because if they are close together a lot of fight would happen.

It is not the first time that such violent are happening because of football. Even inside the stadium you see something like insults from fans to player based on racism and throwing things at them. It's just normal to see people act out of anxiety.

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March 08, 2024, 07:33:25 AM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.
You best made it clear that football or sport games are activities for fun and merriments which is actually accepted but if you have to keep anyone on sanction or blamed in-between the visitors who went on catching fun in a foreign land and the citizens of the country, just as you described the benefit outcomes of the game, then there was no necessity of staying security concious or being observant to stay out of trouble. The game would had just been all of funs despites self interests among the teams.

There wasn't supposed the illiciting of trouble or insecurities by the city owners who tends to inconvenience the visitors that is in their home town just to feel among the cruise catching the sports fun.
So, all blames and sanctions should go straight up to the citizens of the city because the fun about sport's activities should not be a donor die affair however, life is not duplicate so it is still necessary to stay conscious within a strange environment at all times.











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March 08, 2024, 07:37:14 AM
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Well, I'd call it shit happens. It doesn't mean I want to normalize murder case or have no empathy, but we can't know what will happen to our life.

After see this news, someone can argue it's better to watch from home and celebrate in silent, but did you forget if we're also taking risk in other fields?

Let's say you're driving a car to work, you might be a good driver, but you can't predict if someone will hit you with full speed.

Or you're working very good, you spend a lot effort in order to show how good you're, in hoping to get a promotion. But your colleagues will envy to you and they might torture you in order to make you resign.

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Its more better to watch silently and celebrate when our favorite team can score rather than taunting other fan and create trouble since incident like this will happen. Also those aggressive fans should think about their favorite team will not help them if they face a lot of trouble for siding them that's why to avoid getting any conflict to anyone much better respect each other especially while watching them on live so we can avoid getting into serious troubles.


This is the common problem of die hard fan especially those who watching the game live. They are always carried away without thinking about others feelings since they think that they deserve being free whatever they want since they paid the tickets which is correct. The only problem is you can’t control others emotions on how they view you that’s why conflicts always arise on a high tension game.

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Sometimes we may carried away with our emotions but if people just have respect to other sports fan and avoid any trouble then for sure they can avoid any same like incident to happen.

This is the common courtesy but sadly not everyone have this even though it’s common since sometimes being fan thinks smaller and less considerate with others.

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March 08, 2024, 07:45:22 AM
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I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.

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March 08, 2024, 07:54:57 AM
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The conclusion is don't travel to Rome or you could be stabbed. Grin

I think they want to give a physiologic effect to Brighton players, so they're playing with feeling in anxious. Roma should be in favored position, there's no way for them to lose.

As a sport fan, of course it's nothing new when the fanatic fans will do anything in order to destroy the opponent fans. We can see it in anywhere especially on Ronaldo vs Messi debates.
Who knows? This is a psychological thing; weaken the morale of your opponent and there is nothing much they can do in terms of defense and the game yesterday spoke volumes. It was as if Brighton knew that to score a goal will bring about chaos and had to play like they were inexperienced. What are the local authorities doing about this and is there no way the victims can file a report?
 You're right, fans need to be careful when going on things like this but then again it's not as if they know the area is not safe and they still go ahead all in the name of sportsmanship, besides there were more people who went for the game, it's just too unfortunate that they had to be victims. I pray for their speedy recovery, though.

 
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It is not the first time that such violent are happening because of football. Even inside the stadium you see something like insults from fans to player based on racism and throwing things at them. It's just normal to see people act out of anxiety.
People or groups of fans like this are fans who are too fanatical about the club they support, and this is also a matter of who is stronger as a loyal supporter.
You must know Indonesia which is a country full of hustle and bustle of very fanatical fans such as Bonex, Vikings and several other fan clubs.

There was even a dark incident that happened at the Malang Kanjuruhan Stadium in 2022 which killed hundreds of supporters because they were dissatisfied with the results of the Arema Malang Vs Persebaya match.
This is the most memorable incident to date, because some fanatical supporters who became provocateurs made conditions even more conducive.

https://fulcrum.sg/indonesias-kanjuruhan-stadium-tragedy/

 
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March 08, 2024, 08:38:39 AM
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I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.

There will always be crimes, no matter what place you are in. Maybe it just highlighted Rome in this case as obviously, there are a lot of teams and fans in that city and they are really die hard fanatics and could start a fight or brawl after the game and there could be stabbing as we all know, they could be carried away with emotions and their decision is clouded and will do to protect their clubs.

Yes, this could be an isolated case and I don't think this happens very frequently. But if it did though, for sure it will garner a lot of attentions for media and portray the city as not safe. I don't think it will change as well, we just need to be very careful, not to harm anyone or protect ourselves at all times.

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It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.
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March 08, 2024, 09:53:00 AM
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It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.

it's also worrying to hear such incidents especially since there are really many fans who want to watch the game. As usual, the team they admire doesn't know them so they can hurt each other just because they are different from the team they support, and we don't control other people's minds, why don't we just let them choose who they want to support, right? Surely there are other reasons why they have reached the point of being hurt and possibly even resorting to violence. Since Live telecast via online is now a trend, it seems like it's better to just watch it that way, at least you know you're safe inside your home.



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March 08, 2024, 10:19:39 AM
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I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.

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March 08, 2024, 11:04:43 AM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Football banter has always been fias battle in Italy especially Rome. However I expect the home team to do more in terms of providing more security for visiting teams and their fans both on and of the pitch because situations like these if not properly handled it could snowball into serious football rivalry that can be dangerous, because the English fans will be waiting for a day or time Roman fans will come back to England for a match for them to retaliate on the attack that was given to them, and the circle will continue over and over again if unabited.
The Romans fans shouldn't be angry if visiting team are having some showoff because it's part of football, is part of the bragging right of football fans across the world.











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March 08, 2024, 11:56:44 AM
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I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
This is why there are really people who are really that tend to go into stadium or any event place just because they do want to feel up the vibe and it is really that in different ambiance if you are with that the crowd.
This isnt something that you could really be able to experience when you are playing or watching in your own home. This is why even some people do know about the risks involved when it comes to this but still they dont bother. We cant really be able to make out that kind of generalization in all places to be something like this. Its not bad to have some fun without having those kind of doubts and having that kind of control when it comes to actions. The most important part that you do really need to consider out on your actions which it could trigger those possible aggression on which this is something that should be avoided.

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