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Title: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Agbamoni on March 07, 2024, 12:34:22 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)



Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Gozie51 on March 07, 2024, 12:51:02 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Oshosondy on March 07, 2024, 12:55:33 PM
This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Agbamoni on March 07, 2024, 01:01:34 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: danherbias07 on March 07, 2024, 01:02:09 PM
Why check the visitors? It's good for the country's tourism, right?

I don't know why football games are always mixed up with news of accidents and chaos but it seems unsporty. I just wish the fans of each team were as sporty as the players of their preferred team. They are not playing just to win games, they are also playing to promote sportsmanship. Or was that belief already forgotten?

I've seen the worst in one video where a riot really happened and I bet a lot of people were hurt when it ended. I just don't know if someone died on that sad day. This should not happen at all, if one person is cheering for his team then let them. If it is for the opponent of the home team, then let it be. Be competitive in cheering not in brawling.
This incident just shows that there are really people who would kill as a fan and I think they are not on the right mind and should be the ones who are guarded.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Agbe on March 07, 2024, 01:05:15 PM
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and coming to the incident. This has been on ground for centuries. In locally, my community precisely, whenever two communities played football match they must fight and wound themselves so when I see your thread it was not a new thing for again. So it is for the visitors to be security conscious and protect themselves in the stadium and also the organizers in their turn should provide an adequate security for the audience because in life security is one of the most important thing because if there no security of life then nobody would go out again to watch football because everyone will be afraid that something would happen to them in the place so instead let me stay at home. And also in the year 2005 and there about when club side matches were tough, fans were killing themselves because of football in my community. If one team loss and the fans that win the other made monkery of the loss team then fight mut burst out and they would wound themselves. So this has been on ground for years now.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Sunderland on March 07, 2024, 01:09:10 PM
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Two English men, in their 20s, were attacked shortly after midnight.
The attack took place in Via Cavour near the Colosseum

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.

It happened after the match ended and far away from the stadium area, I think its a robbery not by hatred because the victims are a Brighton fan.
Im sure the police will catch all of them soon, there must be many of CCTV around that area.

Edit: BBC provide a better information, "Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome" here is the link https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-68501921

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Brighton fan Joey Thorpe told BBC Radio Sussex: "We were walking home from a bar and being casual, no chanting and in normal clothes. We just got jumped from behind by about six guys all in balaclavas, all wearing black and hiding their faces."
There is no indication whether the attackers were Roma supporters.



Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Kemarit on March 07, 2024, 01:13:04 PM
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Two English men, in their 20s, were attacked shortly after midnight.
The attack took place in Via Cavour near the Colosseum

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.

It happened after the match ended and far away from the stadium area, I think its a robbery not by hatred because the victims are a Brighton fan.
Im sure the police will catch all of them soon, there must be many of CCTV around that area.

I think it has something to do with them being a sports fan and they have been a target and maybe trying to hide on the fact that the criminals wanted to look likes it was robbery. And this is not the first time that we have heard this kind of news though after watching the game.

Hopefully police will learn from it, I mean after the game they should be at least visible to the coliseum and near the area to scare away would be criminals or fans targeting the opposite fans after this kind of highly emotional games.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 07, 2024, 01:21:33 PM
The conclusion is don't travel to Rome or you could be stabbed. ;D

I think they want to give a physiologic effect to Brighton players, so they're playing with feeling in anxious. Roma should be in favored position, there's no way for them to lose.

As a sport fan, of course it's nothing new when the fanatic fans will do anything in order to destroy the opponent fans. We can see it in anywhere especially on Ronaldo vs Messi debates.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Ojima-ojo on March 07, 2024, 01:22:07 PM
Op first reduce your image to
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and coming to the incident. This has been on ground for centuries. In locally, my community precisely, whenever two communities played football match they must fight and wound themselves so when I see your thread it was not a new thing for again. So it is for the visitors to be security conscious and protect themselves in the stadium and also the organizers in their turn should provide an adequate security for the audience because in life security is one of the most important thing because if there no security of life then nobody would go out again to watch football because everyone will be afraid that something would happen to them in the place so instead let me stay at home. And also in the year 2005 and there about when club side matches were tough, fans were killing themselves because of football in my community. If one team loss and the fans that win the other make mockery of the lost team then a fight might burst out and they would wound themselves. So this has been on the ground for years now.
Violence and physical attacks have been the bad feature of football games before and now, all over the world and this is not peculiar to only one region alone, because as you mentioned that it happens in your locality alone or frequently, it's only limited in the international football because of rules and regulation that ban such actions.


But then since football is a game that requires physical attack and contact on the ball, it becomes very easy for players to engage in such an act that goes against normal football plays, although in many places such acts are getting wiped out and none nonexistent at the moment,  but in Africa, we may likely see that more frequently.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: piebeyb on March 07, 2024, 01:29:30 PM
I think it's only in my country where the price of a person's life seems cheap just because of fanatical football fans, I'm sure everyone doesn't agree with that, every home fan must give priority to the visiting supporters, no matter who visits, apart from that, visiting supporters must also You can really respect the home fans so that undesirable things don't happen, I believe that by maintaining behavior and attitudes that are not excessive, everything will be safe, sometimes the supporters are now very fanatical in an excessive way.

I read about the victim's wallet being stolen which means there is another motive besides the banter said by the OP from the two supporters, I know that it is not easy to protect ourselves in another country because any security definitely depends on ourselves, I am also not a football supporter who is a very fanatic or someone who likes watching live football events from their favorite team, I just think simply, namely watching at home is more calm and comfortable for me than watching live, especially in another country, even though it is my favorite team. I think a case like this will definitely be resolved easily by the existing security forces.  ;)


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Nwada001 on March 07, 2024, 01:30:01 PM
You see those sets of people called "die-hard fans." They can go to any length when an argument is raised against their supporting team. When ever one comes across such a set of people, the best thing to do is to avoid them and walk away because they can do some crazy stuff just to prove a point. 
 
This incident might be a result of disagreement between those who lost their lives and those who perpetuate that act. It's very heartbreaking for the relatives of those people who lost their lives to travel alive and come back home in a body bag.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Gozie51 on March 07, 2024, 01:32:29 PM

There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

I understand the caution aspect of it that you are trying to move into but football and fans go together and fans need to be protected especially in foreign land. If every fan is that careful then people won't travel to watch teams play. There is a responsibility that home fans should have over their strangers, to hit a fan is different from stabbing or causing bodily injury, that is purely a case of attempted murder and not just assault to the victims. The police are already on their case and I believe they will get them and punish them so that it will also be a lesson to other fans . I know Italian fans are violent but they don't have to inflict injury on the fans when it is not a crowd fight.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Frankolala on March 07, 2024, 01:47:09 PM
No one can tell if there was an argument between the two stabbed Brighton fans, and the five Romans. From my own perspective, I think that they were attacked, as the visitors were easily noticed by the indigenes of Rome. Why I said so is because, their wallets was stolen, so it might be that they were robbed by street gangsters.

Travelling to another country to support your club to me is touring, and that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be vigilant with people around us or careful, because it is not everyone that we see have good mind for strangers, some can take advantage of you as a visitor and steal from your or kill you in the process of stealing from you. We should also not involve in any argument over there. I am happy that the two Brighton fans did not die.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Mahanton on March 07, 2024, 01:56:15 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
This is the thing that i dont like when trying out to go into other places on which you are really that having that kind of hesitation when it comes safety or security. You cant really be able to make yourself having
that kind of fun just because you are really that minding about having other people would really be having that kind of intent on which they might be touched up on the time that you do cheer up on your favorite team
and turns out that they do get offended and they would really be that trying out to do harm into you without you knowing or noticing and this is one of the reason on why i dont really like
in going into those other places not unless if we are talking about home.

When it comes to security then you should really be that careful because you dont know on how people been thinking off you, not unless if the said city does have that less crime rate
then i might be that confident but if not then you would really be skeptical on going into these places.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Kristiyana on March 07, 2024, 01:56:40 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)



That's very sad, sometimes I keep imaging how someone will just stabbed his follow human for no just cause. is very sympathetic I just pray those victims survive the incident,football is just part of intertainment and also for fun,I'm still  wondering why  fans always make a big deal out of it.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Su-asa on March 07, 2024, 01:56:50 PM
Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)
The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: ajiz138 on March 07, 2024, 02:01:07 PM
Some fans are fanatical, are the youth who support Brighton rioting or what?

But clearly this is not something good and even bad behavior where they or some tourists will be afraid if they are approaching this exciting news. And with the pleasure of watching the Europa League match will end up being tragic for them because it is too risky when it happens like this.
Better to watch football from home while betting it will be fun too. But I admit that watching live matches will be more different sensations.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: bittraffic on March 07, 2024, 02:10:54 PM
Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)
The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.

The link didn't say they were arguing with those 7 men, the two were just tourists and watching the game. The article is just not saying anything about how it happened.

But obviously, those 7 men who attacked them knew they were tourists and knew they are going to be helpless if they robbed them.
What is crazy is that they separated the two, each of them is treated in a different hospital.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Beparanf on March 07, 2024, 02:11:48 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


This is why you should be in a low key mode if you are foreign in an area when watching sports with fan based. There’s always a die hard fan that resorting to violence once their home team didn’t win the game while the foreign guys support the enemy team since it’s hot in the eyes of home fans.

This is always happening in my country even on a small sports tournament locally. People that is just visiting is always being a victim of harassment and violence just because their team is winning while they arr supporting hard.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Hewlet on March 07, 2024, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: Agbamoni link=topic=5487928.msg63771510#msg63771510

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

football comes with a whole lots of intrigues and emotions and sometimes supporters takes it almost more serious than the players and team management. It's very normal for most supporters to go all out to show their love for a particular team and I can say that it's one of the factors that makes soccer what it is at the moment.

Coming down to this context, going too extreme to the extent of killing an opponents fan is not just irresponsible and uncalled for, it's a crime that is punishable by the law. The least thing the club should do is to to take all necessary measure  measures that will see to it that the perpetrator of the act is brought to book. You can't be careful enough and everyone has the right to support whoever team he chooses to without fear of being intimidated or molested be the host team. If this isn't taken seriously, events like this will repeat itself and with time fans will become scared to wash games outside of their home.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: coin-investor on March 07, 2024, 02:23:14 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.



That's very alarming, considering the victims come from foreign soil and just come to show support to their team, the perpetrators are ultra-supporters, and the authorities should see to it that such a thing will not happen again or they will lose foreign visitors and revenues coming from tourists and the government of other countries will issue travel alerts for that country.

Based on the article
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Police have said 1000 officers will be deployed at the match.
I don't think this is enough they should employ more CCTV and civilian officers, football is one of the games where there are so many fanatics and they will go to the point of harming the fans of the opposite team, to bent their anger and frustration whenever their favorite team losses a game.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 07, 2024, 02:38:57 PM
This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.
Yeah those suspects don't respect other peoples decision especially supporting the rival team. Though different races, cultures, behaviors and attitudes but we don't really know the whole story here maybe they are having verbal atercations which is very common between supporters in a sports but yeah we should not be hostile or being provocative to other supporters just to avoid some kind of danger. We should also maintain awareness to our surroundings stay out of the aggressive crowds that might cause any injuries if something bad will happen.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Chibit01 on March 07, 2024, 02:43:27 PM
So sad my condolences to their beloved families we have to be very careful with anything I am doing more to anything called competition. As a person when you go to a foreign land you just have to be very careful on a normal not to talk of competitive stuff that involves crowd which is supporting differently this is something we should know that no body will come to your house and make jest of you then you will be Happy and comfortable with that act only you should be able to understand this...

I wonder why you will go to someone's country a foreign land as football fan you went then and start been nonchalant of yourself  making alot of noice showingoff more than the host team immensely now it has leads to uncessary banter which leads to your death I am not happy with the whole thing but we should learn how to comport ourselves not everything we will take to heart start making troubles and problems for Yourself and other people......

As a visitor where ever you go try be very  reserved and behave yourself immensely........

May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

Thanks 😊👍


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: uneng on March 07, 2024, 03:16:34 PM
May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

Thanks 😊👍
Lol, they didn't die...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Zigabel on March 07, 2024, 03:37:57 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.
Fans banter has always been something we have Experienced over the years and it's not just found across Europe alone but also in other countries where they do play football and other sports so it's very important we stay away from it because just like this which has been reported, some can actually be very intensed to the point it could claim lives but if we  avoid them well enough, we wouldn't have to be victims to know how such things happen, sometimes been careful about the banter may not be enough as some one can just be affected just by been around the area where such is happening, been conscious of our location too at some point is key and important.

Especially in away games fans should be careful not to be the reason a problem is started so they don't eventually get into issues that will cost them their lives or resources even, going to enjoy the game and go back home there after should be the aim of the fans and not to go make trouble.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Chibit01 on March 07, 2024, 03:40:39 PM
May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

Thanks 😊👍
Lol, they didn't die...

Okay I now understand better well anything anyone is doing let's just be careful and guided thanks alot for your humble opinion and response...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Slow death on March 07, 2024, 03:47:02 PM
In my opinion, cases like these are things that happen every day, unfortunately there are people who leave their homes and stay on the streets to commit crimes and when you investigate the case well you will discover that the criminals who keep committing these types of crimes are people who They have financial conditions that allow them to live without depending on crimes, so they commit these crimes for pleasure. in other words, they are sick people who, in addition to being arrested, sentenced to spend years in prison, must also have psychological support, if there are cameras in many streets in that place, it may be possible to identify the criminals, I know that in this article it says that the criminals were covered by masks on their faces, but having cameras in every corner of the city

At some point these criminals will remove the masks from their faces and with this the cameras will capture their faces and with computer programs it will be possible to identify who they are and the police will be able to arrest them. now this is something shameful for Italy, which must invest more in security, although cases like these are in frightening numbers in all countries, countries must still start investing a lot in security, increase the number of police on the streets, increase cameras in cities , increase the security budget. Rich countries focus a lot on increasing the budget for the military and forget about the police and as a consequence we see cases like these


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: knowngunman on March 07, 2024, 04:10:23 PM
Edit: BBC provide a better information, "Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome" here is the link https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-68501921

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Brighton fan Joey Thorpe told BBC Radio Sussex: "We were walking home from a bar and being casual, no chanting and in normal clothes. We just got jumped from behind by about six guys all in balaclavas, all wearing black and hiding their faces."
There is no indication whether the attackers were Roma supporters.

I thought as much, thank you for this link and the information. This is why it's very necessary to read the content of the news before assuming anything. The bloggers nowadays mislead people with their attention catching headlines. I was wondering how such thing would happen when securities are around to protect every fans.

However, the way some fan base react to opponents fans when their team lost a match as if their life depend on it is very uncalled for. Sometimes, I do avoid watching match in a public viewing center because of things like this. Some people are not tolerating at all and can get angry unnecessarily. Football in particular is a game of fun and your team can not be a loser forever. When you are mocked for losing today, you might win tomorrow and laugh. There's no point in harming someone supporting a different team no matter how they mock your team.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Samlucky O on March 07, 2024, 04:14:32 PM
It is very bad, and that is man inhumanity to man. Stabbing someone who came on a vacation to watch a match should not be treated as such. That is a pure wickedness I don't know how football fan takes arguments or banters so seriously while the footballers are making there money on a cool way every week while some people kill themselves for nothing the funny part is that a footballer would play for a club this season and maybe baught by another club nest year. You can see that footballers don't keep malice because there business is not a permanent business which a club can hire you at any moment. Somany youth have lost there life due to gamble anguement yet this footballers in question is waxing stronger and making money every week. It pains me to see that poor minded people kill themself all because of football anguement.

Please let us control our tongues and know what to ague about that will not cut our life short all in the name of gambling argument because it has taken alot of life. Let Us not lost our life for people that are making there money. Just take a look at players like Messi and Ronaldo how long they have been in football yet I haven't heard anything about them arguing but they make their money an becomes more popular.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: len01 on March 07, 2024, 04:40:19 PM
something like this would only happen to an adult who thinks like a child.
I mean, if you are a supporter of a team, you should not behave outside the limits of a team supporter because if you do something like this, it is not only yourself who will be harmed, but also the team will get a bad reputation.
this is the reason I don't watch football matches live or even almost never because I avoid things like this because I only see that I am old enough and married, I am very embarrassed if this happens because ambition and emotions are very big when it comes to each other banter with supporters of other teams.

maybe in the past I often watched football live to support my favorite team and at the same time bet on the match with my friends, but after becoming more mature and old enough, I would definitely prefer to watch and support my favorite team from my room and see it in person online without having any risk.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Wakate on March 07, 2024, 05:43:24 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)


I will like thank you for this information and I would like everyone reading this to be careful enough not to hurt other people's feelings because of supporting a particular clubs especially if we are not in our locality where we can always boast of having friends around that could safeguard us from problems which may arise anytime. There were people who had lost there life because of sport and supporting their club. We all need to behave mature and do things in a way that would not cause problems for us, and likewise we don't have to say words that would hurt other people's feelings because we all are humans and we need to think before we talk so we that cause problems for ourselves.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Findingnemo on March 07, 2024, 05:50:45 PM
This kind of incident question the security of travellers in that country so the government should take some action of they want people to travel and especially it is one of the country where tourism contribute to the economy in the considerable amount.

As away supporter we have to know our limits too and which is the safe place and what are the things that can really hurt others.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: agustina2 on March 07, 2024, 05:53:59 PM
Seems like it's not just because of an argument between fan base faction why that happened.

According to the article:
"The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen".

If the motive is to just defend their respective team and end up in a heated argument, why there are lost items on the victims?

Either way, even how much a fan is careful to themselves, there are always bad people roaming around that will harm people unexpectedly.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: nara1892 on March 07, 2024, 06:22:45 PM
I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

Yes I quite agree with your first idea that prevention is always better than cure, but I don't think there is anything else they should do, they only came with the intention to watch and support their pride team compete, I am sure that they are one of the true brighton fans so they can take the time to watch their pride team even abroad. I understand that prevention is better than cure but this kind of thing is already a fairly common occurrence that occurs at the stadium between the two camps, there are always people who start problems with supporters of their enemy club so that there is a commotion that always produces victims in it.

However we always hope for the best, football is more fun when the fans are orderly until the game is over, but yes as I said there are always people between one of the two camps of fans who make the security hassle, and it is not easy to control thousands of fans who are in a heated situation especially when the team they are proud of loses, and sometimes things like that are very likely to happen when you don't make fun of the opposing fans at all, so I think it is very difficult to really prevent, unless you just watch at home.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Moreno233 on March 07, 2024, 06:24:17 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)
Well this has not direct correlation to me sitting in my room and placing my bets, most likely they are not even gamblers because if they were, they would have learnt how to control their emotions. We can call the attackers addicted supporters because they fail to understand that football is a game of sports that is meant to spread love, unity and entertainment. They allowed themselves display the opposite of everything that football came to do. Now both supporters and their attackers may possibly not watch the match, which is very bad. We should be careful on how we do things to avoid falling victims of something like this.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Zlantann on March 07, 2024, 06:30:35 PM
Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Fans are naturally noisy and will always promote their club anywhere. You will find them in different locations of cities singing the praises of their team and the host fans should tolerate that. The home fans shouldn't forget that they also travel to other countries to support their team. Football is a sport that is peaceful and unites people from different countries, so attacking visiting fans is bad. The investigation is still ongoing to determine the reason behind this attack because there is no proof that it is related to the game since these fans were also robbed. Maybe it could be a case of armed robbery. The law enforcement agencies should be able to arrest these attackers and bring them to book. I grew up in an area with a high crime rate so I am always security conscious and avoid areas that have high records of crime. I don't blame the fans because Italy is a beautiful country that everyone would like to explore and enjoy the country.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: DaNNy001 on March 07, 2024, 07:00:36 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)



Well these kinds of things happen on a steady and this happens as a result of the fans not being cautious that they are actually not at home and the need for them to know this is vital because at every moment something might pop up football is really crazy and it makes football fans do all sort of things just because of the love they have for the game. And moreover football is only a sport and the people watching or supporting the club are of different personalities so I would like to agree that staying off from arguments is best because you never can tell the person you are arguing with.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Hatchy on March 07, 2024, 07:07:14 PM
Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

It's really wrong for opposite countries to have such character when it comes to matches or sports that were meant to be for funs and nothing else. I think some people takes this sport of a thing too far. I see no possible reason why we should fight or hurt our selfs over games.nthe worst part of this, is that show no concern about innocent people who has no evil intentions coming to watch a friendly away match.
We should be careful though for those who are really great lovers of sports and always travels to show support for their team. same news I got, in the recent caf match that was played in Africa, where we hear opposing countries sendung threats about killing the away country supporters if their country had lost. The game was supposed to be fair but at the end, they eventually won and no harm was done. We should be vigilant please.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: _act_ on March 07, 2024, 08:32:31 PM
Well these kinds of things happen on a steady and this happens as a result of the fans not being cautious that they are actually not at home and the need for them to know this is vital because at every moment something might pop up football is really crazy and it makes football fans do all sort of things just because of the love they have for the game. And moreover football is only a sport and the people watching or supporting the club are of different personalities so I would like to agree that staying off from arguments is best because you never can tell the person you are arguing with.
Is it more than ball? Some people are just too wicked. You stabbed someone which can lead to death all because of football. Those stabbers need to be arrested. But to be arguing in another country which is not yours, that is not good because you are not in your country. Even if you are in your country, some people do argue about football, but it should be the people that they know like friends. Was argument the cause of the stabbing?


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: alani123 on March 07, 2024, 08:33:08 PM
Not long ago a local fan of a football team was stabbed to death in Greece too. It's ridiculous what hooligans will do. They will be tough and cause a scene but will cry like babies in court and call their mom to testify how much of a cute little boy they are under the prospect of jail time. Being violent under the banned of a team is something shameful in sports. The players and the team owners should disavow such fans in the strongest terms possible. I really hope there can be a crackdown on violence in football fans one day.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Queentoshi on March 07, 2024, 08:44:31 PM
They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death.
Staying together with the group of people who you all support the same team is another security strategy. Find and stay together with a group of supporters because staying alone can you put you at risk of being attacked if there are other opposing fans who are angered to that extent. If you would not like to be with other people who you all support the same team, then maintaining a neutral position by not putting on the team jersey of any of the teams, and then minding what you say can keep you safe.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Mahanton on March 07, 2024, 08:51:45 PM
They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death.
Staying together with the group of people who you all support the same team is another security strategy. Find and stay together with a group of supporters because staying alone can you put you at risk of being attacked if there are other opposing fans who are angered to that extent. If you would not like to be with other people who you all support the same team, then maintaining a neutral position by not putting on the team jersey of any of the teams, and then minding what you say can keep you safe.
Yes its true and this is something ideal on which you would definitely be that putting up yourself out on such harm if you do swarm into those people whom do support on the same team as you.
It would really be that impossible if you are just you and with your friend are the ones who are really that supporting the home opponent team on which it would really be that something strategic and something
that sensible that you should really be doing if you are really that in concern with your security on which i do see that it would really be that viable on doing so because having that kind of step
would really be might able to save up your life.

We dont know on when those bad intents could really be happening into your life. This is why as much as possible it would really be that best that you should really be avoiding it at all cost.
There's nothing wrong one making yourself that a bit paranoid when it comes to safety because this is something that we should really be prioritizing most of the time.
Having fun but at the same time you are minding about your safety.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on March 07, 2024, 09:03:52 PM
I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun.
I'm really disappointed to hear that, I thought the spirit of sportsmanship should be in circulation, but the misunderstanding that left those fans bloodied shouldn't have been approached with such dangerous emotions from the host fans. I was thinking that football have developed above street fights to demonstrate support for clubs of interest, instead a friendly argument that defeats  the supporter with lesser points to  exalt his team and ends in sharing a bottle or two as we do in my neighborhood.

I pray nothing bad happens to the guys as reports of them being in terrible conditions are not in circulation and I also hope appropriate authorities are working on bringing those behind this ugly incident to justice for attempting murder of visiting fans.

Fans should also be warned to observe the energy they're receiving whenever they're in a foreign land to determine their level of expression to avoid being victims of circumstances because not everybody you see on the road is normal.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Huppercase on March 07, 2024, 09:06:25 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

There is more to this story that was covered up by the media. It's either there has been some beef between the supporters or the fans and things got out of hand. I mean two people were stabbed and the culprit wasn't caught by anything. If the game happens in the stadium, then there should be something like cctv camera somewhere around the stadium that must have capture the moment and whoever did this need to be brought to justice unless they want this to always happen often in stadiums.

It's so sad now that football that has been an entertaining for many years, racism and abuse has not stopped. This happens many times that Fifa always says nothing and be printing flags everywhere on Jersey of players for no to racism and yet this measures are not working. They should use some fans as scape goat but I forgot that they will lose revenue and that's their main target. :-\


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: killerfrost on March 07, 2024, 09:08:26 PM
Hospitality is a cornerstone of true sportsmanship. Home fans should welcome visitors, fostering a celebration of the beautiful game – not resorting to intimidation or violence.  Think of it like inviting guests to your house; you wouldn't steal their hats or shove them around, right?

Taunting can certainly ignite tensions, but it shouldn't escalate to physical attacks. Football is about healthy competition between teams, not fans resorting to violence. It's like a friendly rivalry that turns into a street brawl – completely unnecessary.

Violence discourages participation from "gentle fans," those who simply want to enjoy the game in a safe environment. Imagine wanting to see your favorite team play, only to be met with aggression. Not exactly a recipe for a good time.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Zoomic on March 07, 2024, 09:10:42 PM
Football is one sport that brings people of diverse backgrounds, race and culture together.
They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death.
Staying together with the group of people who you all support the same team is another security strategy. Find and stay together with a group of supporters because staying alone can you put you at risk of being attacked if there are other opposing fans who are angered to that extent. If you would not like to be with other people who you all support the same team, then maintaining a neutral position by not putting on the team jersey of any of the teams, and then minding what you say can keep you safe.

Football is one sport that brings people of diverse backgrounds, race and culture together. This oneness that exists between fans should not be among people who support thesame teams/clubs only but should be seen among everyone irrespective of who you support. Fans should learn to be more tolerant and accommodating, after all it is just a game and only one winner will be announced at the end.  A good supporter of sports should be able to act under control both during defeat and in celebration. I look forward to a situation where we do not need to feel unsafe around our opponents while celebrating or face unpleasant backlash when defeated, the love for good football should be appreciated. Though we support different teams, we are not enemies.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Onyeeze on March 07, 2024, 09:14:03 PM
What I want to say in essence is that a farm of a football club or a fan of of any club should do not that some people does not take a football club as entertainment industry as we do but what then see is that it is a competition between one Football Club to another Football Club and that is why when they notice that you are not their fan they will began to attack you whenever they seems  you talking against their own club, so I do advice my people to argue of football club to people you have meet before or people you already know for long time, at least will take your argument as a joking matter compare to someone you have not know.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Lanatsa on March 07, 2024, 09:19:09 PM
Hospitality is a cornerstone of true sportsmanship. Home fans should welcome visitors, fostering a celebration of the beautiful game – not resorting to intimidation or violence.  Think of it like inviting guests to your house; you wouldn't steal their hats or shove them around, right?

Taunting can certainly ignite tensions, but it shouldn't escalate to physical attacks. Football is about healthy competition between teams, not fans resorting to violence. It's like a friendly rivalry that turns into a street brawl – completely unnecessary.

Violence discourages participation from "gentle fans," those who simply want to enjoy the game in a safe environment. Imagine wanting to see your favorite team play, only to be met with aggression. Not exactly a recipe for a good time.
When it comes to hospitality then there are really races or countries on which arent really that something do have this kind in compared into those known hospitable countries and with this alone
then you could already assume those probabilities. Im not really generalizing but this would really be something that likely the case that would happen.

Taunting could really create that tension on which it is really that true and also we do know that even if you are going into a place on which its known to be that a good one
but we dont know on how human beings mind and brain do works specially if they've been able to see something that pokes out their emotion on which it would really be that might resulting into something like this.

If you are really that skeptical about security or something in correlated then it would be best that you should stayed home and dont tend to make yourself go into these venues.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: lalabotax on March 07, 2024, 09:19:20 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
Yep, there is that bad news. It cannot be denied that fans are something that has a big influence on football. Many similar cases occur in various matches, in various leagues. There are even many fanatical fans from certain clubs who have been sworn enemies for a long time. And incidents like this cannot be controlled.

We don't yet know who the perpetrators were, whether they were fans of the opposing team or not. However, the police are currently conducting an investigation. If this is proven, there may be sanctions or other things.

But apart from all that, fans have to be extra careful, especially when they visit an opponent's stadium. Fans are allowed, but you have to pay attention to safety, at least, stay with a group, or just keep wearing your attributes when you're at the stadium and don't be too flashy when you're outside.

In my country, there have been several incidents involving fans who even died as a result of being beaten by fanatical fans of their opponents, because they were wearing the attributes of their favorite team. Hopefully incidents like this will not happen again.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: GxSTxV on March 07, 2024, 09:35:51 PM
Being an overly passionate about sports fan can have a lot of negative consequences. Excessive dedication to a sports team might lead to neglecting other aspects of life, such as relationships, work, or personal well-being.
People should lean how to control their emotions in such situations, this could also happen in Gambling, when a gambler isn't able to control his emotions when he loses leading him to experience multiple feelings, this could also lead to addiction.

It is vital to strengthen the security system in stadiums especially when receiving foreign groups of fans. This reminds me of stadiums in my country, it is very unsafe there especially in the past years, things get so barbarian and aggressive there, many stories like this one happened in our stadiums because of the behavior of rival teams fans that get into fights, clashes and conflicts.
It is crucial to strike a balance between enjoying sports and maintaining a well rounded healthy lifestyle.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: topbitcoin on March 07, 2024, 09:46:46 PM
Currently, football is the most popular type of sport in the world. Many people flock to watch their favorite club's matches, and even though they have to spend a lot of money to get admission tickets, they will do it.

However, after an incident like this, it seems that football fans will think twice about having to watch live at the stadium, for the reason that for their own safety, they will prefer to watch it at home via television broadcasts. Mistakes made by these few people can be very detrimental to the football industry, and it is possible that a football match will take place without fans watching live in a stadium. and this is something that is very likely to happen for some time until things return to normal, and there are no longer any worries for football fans when they decide to watch directly at the stadium.

and what OP said is true, that football is just entertainment. Different choices are fine, but don't let it just be because of different choices of football clubs that it becomes a reason for us to be hostile towards each other, especially if we commit murder.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: boyptc on March 07, 2024, 09:47:52 PM
This is not related to gambling but to the sports so I think this topic should be on the Off Topic section.

As a fan of the sports that we love, we need to check ourselves at all times when we attend these games. Because it's not always about you although we're free to express our support to our beloved team.

But when someone's get annoyed on how you deliver your support, you should see something that's coming to you as not everyone's head is calm.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: decodx on March 07, 2024, 10:00:19 PM
This situation with the stabbings probably has little to do with typical fan behavior, even if overzealous.  Regardless, violence of any sort shouldn't be tolerated, whether it's on the streets or in the stands.  People ought to feel safe cheering their team and  those who resorted to knives deserve punishment; banning raucous supporters misses the point.  Security guards can only do so much.  This isn't about banter gone too far but about a few troublemakers taking things to an unacceptable level.  We need to hold those responsible accountable, not victim-blame.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Churchillvv on March 07, 2024, 10:06:49 PM
That's just it people should be careful of how they interact with each other especially when it comes to sporting activities.

I have heard so many stories of this nature even in my locality people keeps fighting themselves for the love of football clubs as a fan, it usually happens when two assumed reval clubs have a match and arguments begins to escalate to the extent of fighting.

Football or any other sport is meant to keep the people happy not for argument and fight people who leave there homes to watch football matches in other places should also be very vigilant and be self conscious and the homes should also learn to take things politely. 


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: alastantiger on March 07, 2024, 10:15:13 PM
Some people can be so heartless. This is fan extremism and must be discouraged in all forms. There is also the need for other fans to be aware that this type of things happen so that they all necessary caution.The club whose fan stabbed the other person should put out a strongly worded message condemning the act..This is going to change the face of fans love today's a club.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: angrybirdy on March 07, 2024, 10:17:50 PM
This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.
Based on the article, this scenario seems like a typical fan issue, or maybe that person really has a secret anger and pretended to be a fan so he could carry out his stabbing plan. Whatever the reason, what he did was wrong because he only put himself in harm's way, and people who think of their fellow man like that, deserve to be imprisoned and given a proper punishment. It's a very shallow reason if you suddenly get stabbed just because the group you like isn't supported, right? So how did the stabbing material get in? Maybe they should be stricter on security checking because something like this still gets through.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Justbillywitt on March 07, 2024, 10:26:27 PM
Football is a game of passion and something we do to get bragging right. There is need for us to be careful that's for sure, but I will blame Roma fans for being violent to the point of stabbing the away fans. If the fans don't show support for their club I don't think football will be fun to watch. Uefa need to come up with strict rules against these clubs that can't control their fans. This is totally uncalled for and I won't blame Brighton fans for supporting their club. It is a very sad news and I hope the people that were stabbed, don't sustain a life threatening injuries.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Orpichukwu on March 07, 2024, 10:33:08 PM
This is very bad, and I hope they are able to capture those who did this. Are there supposed to be cameras all over that place, or because the match has not yet started, things are not functional yet?
 
People just have to be careful with the kind of people they get into arguments with because they don't know what kind of evil plans they might have for them; they just need an excuse to execute them.

Football, music, or any form of fan base that will result in an argument that will offend the other, I don't get involved with that. People are really heartless these days and can do crazy things that we don't think of.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: oktana on March 07, 2024, 10:37:45 PM
You can’t blame them. Imagine traveling all that distance and your team actually wins, you will definitely celebrate. Fans cry when their team loses and the exact opposite when they win is what those guys may have expressed. I rather think the security authorities need to be more vigilant because it doesn’t make sense if fans can’t express their joy.

It’s good to know they aren’t dead and weren’t stabbed in places where could affect vital organs.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 07, 2024, 10:37:56 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)
Thanks for your advice. Safety and observation is very important while a match is going on, because you can't really tell the kind of person you surrounded to. Their are some people that takes football so serious and personal and when the game is not going the way it is supposed to go they can go ahead to do anything to make sure the opponent fan gets hurt. Have seen a match that the game was not favouring the other opponent angry fans started disturbing the peace of the stadium and some people got injured.  In times like this some people have even lose life due to fans who are unable to control their emotions.

Football is a game I don't know why some fans takes it so personal, even the players playing game are not even worried about the game, but how some fans takes it so serious that they can do anything to hurt someone just because of the game.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Stable090 on March 07, 2024, 10:40:39 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
This is so sad. When you are in a public place, always mind things which you will be saying, their are some unnecessary arguments which you are not suppose to involve yourself, sometimes just keep your opinion to yourself and keep quit. I feel bad for those people that were stabbed, but people that did that are suppose to be punished, why do you have to do that kind of crazy thing, no matter your condition, you should be able to control your anger, it shouldn’t get to the length of stabbing someone. Football is just suppose to be for fun, and unite people, it’s not suppose to separate people and kill people.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: wheelz1200 on March 07, 2024, 11:29:20 PM
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: dothebeats on March 07, 2024, 11:37:15 PM
They might have been mistaken for someone else, have engaged in banters during the match, or was just robbed by some people who thought that they can get away with what they did. There are many possibilities as to why these dudes are stabbed. Their possessions were taken from them, so there is that motive of stealing something. Regardless, the source article did not confirm whether they're in the country for watching the match and it's only a possibility. It can be tied to something else. Even so, people must always be vigilant on where they go and always ensure that they are not doing something that the locals might not like. Or better yet, avoid going out at night and on places wherein such crimes are commonplace.

This has nothing to do with sports betting or gambling in general, but they sure gambled with their chances going out at night on a neighborhood they're not familiar with.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Quidat on March 07, 2024, 11:45:37 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
This is so sad. When you are in a public place, always mind things which you will be saying, their are some unnecessary arguments which you are not suppose to involve yourself, sometimes just keep your opinion to yourself and keep quit. I feel bad for those people that were stabbed, but people that did that are suppose to be punished, why do you have to do that kind of crazy thing, no matter your condition, you should be able to control your anger, it shouldn’t get to the length of stabbing someone. Football is just suppose to be for fun, and unite people, it’s not suppose to separate people and kill people.
For those people who are really that paranoid when it comes to security then they wont really bother on going into arenas or public places on which they could potentially find these kind of troubles
but actually there's nothing wrong if you are really that going just for fun because not all the time these troubles been mold up, it is really just that sometimes our mind is really that advanced when it comes to this matter on which on the time that we do really be able to project out those kind possible situation or condition then you would really be considering out on having that kind of mindset
that you shouldnt really be going into these place which its a normal approach i would say. Dont be fearful and be alert all the times if ever you would be going into public places.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Hewlet on March 08, 2024, 06:36:19 AM
The players and the team owners should disavow such fans in the strongest terms possible. I really hope there can be a crackdown on violence in football fans one day.
the fans are part of the team and in this current social media age, once a fan is being bullied by either the players of the team he is supporting or the management of the club, it could go a long way in affecting other supporters would feel unsafe to express their love for the club in their own way.

I mean, what's the beauty of the game when supporters can't express their love for the team publicly? I know it's necessary that  everyone should know how to moderate his activity and not use his right against  someone's else's right but if fans can't bring out those energy we see in the stadium, watching matches would be damn boring. 


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: arwin100 on March 08, 2024, 07:17:50 AM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.


Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)



Its more better to watch silently and celebrate when our favorite team can score rather than taunting other fan and create trouble since incident like this will happen. Also those aggressive fans should think about their favorite team will not help them if they face a lot of trouble for siding them that's why to avoid getting any conflict to anyone much better respect each other especially while watching them on live so we can avoid getting into serious troubles.

Sometimes we may carried away with our emotions but if people just have respect to other sports fan and avoid any trouble then for sure they can avoid any same like incident to happen.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Agbamoni on March 08, 2024, 07:18:09 AM
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Thanks for your advice. Safety and observation is very important while a match is going on, because you can't really tell the kind of person you surrounded to. Their are some people that takes football so serious and personal and when the game is not going the way it is supposed to go they can go ahead to do anything to make sure the opponent fan gets hurt. Have seen a match that the game was not favouring the other opponent angry fans started disturbing the peace of the stadium and some people got injured.  In times like this some people have even lose life due to fans who are unable to control their emotions.

Football is a game I don't know why some fans takes it so personal, even the players playing game are not even worried about the game, but how some fans takes it so serious that they can do anything to hurt someone just because of the game.
You're welcome. To be a sports fans now you have to be very vigilant for other fans because people are so desperate and a core fan that they would do anything for their club. Maybe that is the reason why they have to separate the home fans from the Away fans in the stadium because if they are close together a lot of fight would happen.

It is not the first time that such violent are happening because of football. Even inside the stadium you see something like insults from fans to player based on racism and throwing things at them. It's just normal to see people act out of anxiety.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: EluguHcman on March 08, 2024, 07:33:25 AM
Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.
You best made it clear that football or sport games are activities for fun and merriments which is actually accepted but if you have to keep anyone on sanction or blamed in-between the visitors who went on catching fun in a foreign land and the citizens of the country, just as you described the benefit outcomes of the game, then there was no necessity of staying security concious or being observant to stay out of trouble. The game would had just been all of funs despites self interests among the teams.

There wasn't supposed the illiciting of trouble or insecurities by the city owners who tends to inconvenience the visitors that is in their home town just to feel among the cruise catching the sports fun.
So, all blames and sanctions should go straight up to the citizens of the city because the fun about sport's activities should not be a donor die affair however, life is not duplicate so it is still necessary to stay conscious within a strange environment at all times.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 08, 2024, 07:37:14 AM
Well, I'd call it shit happens. It doesn't mean I want to normalize murder case or have no empathy, but we can't know what will happen to our life.

After see this news, someone can argue it's better to watch from home and celebrate in silent, but did you forget if we're also taking risk in other fields?

Let's say you're driving a car to work, you might be a good driver, but you can't predict if someone will hit you with full speed.

Or you're working very good, you spend a lot effort in order to show how good you're, in hoping to get a promotion. But your colleagues will envy to you and they might torture you in order to make you resign.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: AbuBhakar on March 08, 2024, 07:38:19 AM

Its more better to watch silently and celebrate when our favorite team can score rather than taunting other fan and create trouble since incident like this will happen. Also those aggressive fans should think about their favorite team will not help them if they face a lot of trouble for siding them that's why to avoid getting any conflict to anyone much better respect each other especially while watching them on live so we can avoid getting into serious troubles.


This is the common problem of die hard fan especially those who watching the game live. They are always carried away without thinking about others feelings since they think that they deserve being free whatever they want since they paid the tickets which is correct. The only problem is you can’t control others emotions on how they view you that’s why conflicts always arise on a high tension game.

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Sometimes we may carried away with our emotions but if people just have respect to other sports fan and avoid any trouble then for sure they can avoid any same like incident to happen.

This is the common courtesy but sadly not everyone have this even though it’s common since sometimes being fan thinks smaller and less considerate with others.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: hyudien on March 08, 2024, 07:45:22 AM
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Majestic-milf on March 08, 2024, 07:54:57 AM
The conclusion is don't travel to Rome or you could be stabbed. ;D

I think they want to give a physiologic effect to Brighton players, so they're playing with feeling in anxious. Roma should be in favored position, there's no way for them to lose.

As a sport fan, of course it's nothing new when the fanatic fans will do anything in order to destroy the opponent fans. We can see it in anywhere especially on Ronaldo vs Messi debates.
Who knows? This is a psychological thing; weaken the morale of your opponent and there is nothing much they can do in terms of defense and the game yesterday spoke volumes. It was as if Brighton knew that to score a goal will bring about chaos and had to play like they were inexperienced. What are the local authorities doing about this and is there no way the victims can file a report?
 You're right, fans need to be careful when going on things like this but then again it's not as if they know the area is not safe and they still go ahead all in the name of sportsmanship, besides there were more people who went for the game, it's just too unfortunate that they had to be victims. I pray for their speedy recovery, though.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: taufik123 on March 08, 2024, 08:12:41 AM
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It is not the first time that such violent are happening because of football. Even inside the stadium you see something like insults from fans to player based on racism and throwing things at them. It's just normal to see people act out of anxiety.
People or groups of fans like this are fans who are too fanatical about the club they support, and this is also a matter of who is stronger as a loyal supporter.
You must know Indonesia which is a country full of hustle and bustle of very fanatical fans such as Bonex, Vikings and several other fan clubs.

There was even a dark incident that happened at the Malang Kanjuruhan Stadium in 2022 which killed hundreds of supporters because they were dissatisfied with the results of the Arema Malang Vs Persebaya match.
This is the most memorable incident to date, because some fanatical supporters who became provocateurs made conditions even more conducive.

https://fulcrum.sg/indonesias-kanjuruhan-stadium-tragedy/


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Kemarit on March 08, 2024, 08:38:39 AM
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 
For fanatical supporters, they have a different way of supporting than ordinary supporters, they will not even hesitate to commit criminal acts if they meet opposing supporters. In my country this also happens very often, especially if it is two teams that have a very high rivalry, this will be balanced by the rivalry of the supporters too. This is indeed a very unfortunate thing to happen in football, with this bad incident indirectly tarnishing the good name of the sport itself.
Interestingly, this seems to be a tradition passed down from generation to generation, even though it has claimed many victims, they will continue to do it. There are lots of similar cases, although perhaps now bad incidents have decreased more than in the past. However, even though it is decreasing, it cannot be a justification for what a few people do. I would call this an individual, because those who act like this are a small part of the existing supporters. In fact, they are the ones who harm other supporters or even harm the team they like.

There will always be crimes, no matter what place you are in. Maybe it just highlighted Rome in this case as obviously, there are a lot of teams and fans in that city and they are really die hard fanatics and could start a fight or brawl after the game and there could be stabbing as we all know, they could be carried away with emotions and their decision is clouded and will do to protect their clubs.

Yes, this could be an isolated case and I don't think this happens very frequently. But if it did though, for sure it will garner a lot of attentions for media and portray the city as not safe. I don't think it will change as well, we just need to be very careful, not to harm anyone or protect ourselves at all times.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: blckhawk on March 08, 2024, 09:14:48 AM
It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: angrybirdy on March 08, 2024, 09:53:00 AM
It's so weird to me that the intensity of these sporting events can lead to this kind of things happening, damn, stabbing someone because they're not a fan of your team and that they support the other team? That's just stupid and crazy, I don't even think that it's because they've got some kind of money on the line there, the more intense the fan is and rabid they are, the less likely that they've got a money on the line that's on their team. I don't really get people that are like this though, do the players or the team even know that they do exist or remotely know them personally? I could some intensity in the heat of the moment but to get to that point where you hurt others to release that frustrations, that's just horrible in my opinion, ain't no way that it can be justified. That's why I don't go to stadiums to watch sporting events, this type of situation is what I'm scared of, thank God for the television and livestreaming, less chances of getting stabbed by an angry sore loser of a fan.

it's also worrying to hear such incidents especially since there are really many fans who want to watch the game. As usual, the team they admire doesn't know them so they can hurt each other just because they are different from the team they support, and we don't control other people's minds, why don't we just let them choose who they want to support, right? Surely there are other reasons why they have reached the point of being hurt and possibly even resorting to violence. Since Live telecast via online is now a trend, it seems like it's better to just watch it that way, at least you know you're safe inside your home.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 08, 2024, 10:19:39 AM
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on March 08, 2024, 11:04:43 AM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)


Football banter has always been fias battle in Italy especially Rome. However I expect the home team to do more in terms of providing more security for visiting teams and their fans both on and of the pitch because situations like these if not properly handled it could snowball into serious football rivalry that can be dangerous, because the English fans will be waiting for a day or time Roman fans will come back to England for a match for them to retaliate on the attack that was given to them, and the circle will continue over and over again if unabited.
The Romans fans shouldn't be angry if visiting team are having some showoff because it's part of football, is part of the bragging right of football fans across the world.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: milewilda on March 08, 2024, 11:56:44 AM
I don't know what this has to do with sports betting but yeah sports especially in high pressure situations brings the worst out in people.  In the United States some cities are worse than others, but generally speaking when going to a visiting stadium it's not recommended to show your colors and gloat or talk smack when you are the minority there. 

The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
This is why there are really people who are really that tend to go into stadium or any event place just because they do want to feel up the vibe and it is really that in different ambiance if you are with that the crowd.
This isnt something that you could really be able to experience when you are playing or watching in your own home. This is why even some people do know about the risks involved when it comes to this but still they dont bother. We cant really be able to make out that kind of generalization in all places to be something like this. Its not bad to have some fun without having those kind of doubts and having that kind of control when it comes to actions. The most important part that you do really need to consider out on your actions which it could trigger those possible aggression on which this is something that should be avoided.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Hirose UK on March 08, 2024, 12:39:26 PM
Things like this among football fans happen in almost every country, this is clearly the umpteenth incident and what is even worse is that there are quite lot of cases where fights between football team supporters have resulted in large riots and resulted in several people losing their lives.
Incidents like this are actually very unfortunate because football is sport that is full of excitement when as fan can watch proud team compete live.
Not all football fans have this kind of behavior, but similar incidents still occur quite often in the current era.

We must be able to take care of ourselves and always be careful of anyone because truly fanatical supporter will do anything to other supporters that they feel they don't like.
Incidents like this really create negative sentiment among football fans and of course become the focus of various media reporting on them.
My advice is to always look for truly comfortable and safe place when watching football match in another region or in another country because no one knows the intentions and attitudes of other people who meet us in the stadium.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Obari on March 08, 2024, 01:05:00 PM
This is really saddening and at the same time disheartening and if caste isn’t taken, it will reduce the quest for people to travel to other countries for the sake of football and this is actually a wake up to every fan lover to stay very careful and extremely vigilant of their environment and not just when they travel to other countries as this can also happen to anyone and in any country when the show off is really more than expected, it might turn offensive and something bad might happen and that’s why it is always advisable to stay extremely careful when jubilations and celebrations as you might not know who you’re offending.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: aioc on March 08, 2024, 01:09:28 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


Football is one of the sports where they have blind supporters who hate everything that relates to their opponent, I have seen so many incidents like this, like riots, stabbings, and mauling from people coming from the country that beat their favorite team, I agree with your suggestion if you're a tourist or a visitor you should know your limitation and get to know the people on the place you're visiting.
Get updates on police warnings and locations where tourists are restricted.



Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: moneystery on March 08, 2024, 01:14:49 PM
i'm also concerned about what the two supporters experienced. but this is a problem that might occur when watching a football match, because we don't know what other people are bringing and what they will do to other people. in my opinion, just being careful is not enough, but that is the important role of stakeholders from match organizers to be able to sterilize the stadium area and outside the stadium from sharp objects or other objects which could potentially threaten someone's life. so that incidents like this can be avoided and people can be more comfortable and not have to worry about their personal safety.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 08, 2024, 01:18:53 PM
Who knows? This is a psychological thing; weaken the morale of your opponent and there is nothing much they can do in terms of defense and the game yesterday spoke volumes. It was as if Brighton knew that to score a goal will bring about chaos and had to play like they were inexperienced. What are the local authorities doing about this and is there no way the victims can file a report?
 You're right, fans need to be careful when going on things like this but then again it's not as if they know the area is not safe and they still go ahead all in the name of sportsmanship, besides there were more people who went for the game, it's just too unfortunate that they had to be victims. I pray for their speedy recovery, though.
Yep, Brighton played very poor today, the criminals probably happy because their effort gives a result, or they could be a paid criminal. This is really bad for Brighton, I don't see any chance for them to make a comeback.

The victims should need to focus to recover themselves, but I believe someone behalf of them already make a report, not sure if the police have caught the criminals or not yet. Correct, it's just unfortunate.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: sokani on March 08, 2024, 01:42:35 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)

The report didn't say the visitors were showy like putting on their club jerseys and chanting their club songs. The information is sketchy and it's not certain if the attack was football related. According to the report, the attackers wore masks, meaning they were prepared. IMO, a fight couldn't have sprang up as a result of a disagreement between the rival fans. I think the attackers wanted to make a statement or they were just thieves as the personal belongings of the visitors were also stolen.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 08, 2024, 07:38:19 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
Discouraging to the fact that you had fans of a club at your home ground, you chose to welcome them wrongly by stabbing some of them, forgetting that your team and fans would someday come to this people's home ground that you all treated wrongly.

Football games are supposed to be fun and enjoying but some fans are taking it too personally of them to showcase a hateful attitude that if you don't support the team that they are fans too, you have no courage to talk bad against the team they are fan too


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 08, 2024, 07:45:55 PM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
Discouraging to the fact that you had fans of a club at your home ground, you chose to welcome them wrongly by stabbing some of them, forgetting that your team and fans would someday come to this people's home ground that you all treated wrongly.

Football games are supposed to be fun and enjoying but some fans are taking it too personally of them to showcase a hateful attitude that if you don't support the team that they are fans too, you have no courage to talk bad against the team they are fan too
Lets not generalized just that because someone stabbed then it would be not already a good place to visit on. Of course it would really be basing up on how many times it did happen and if its already that rampant then it would really be that common sense that you would really be needing to avoid on going into that place but if not then having fun and going into other places isnt really that a bad idea.
Its true that the fun that you would really be able to experience on the time that you do go into those venues or places is that on totally different when you do watch it on your pc screen.

This is why you could really be able to see those fans or bettors who would really be going into those venues just to have that kind of experiencing the real essence that you are on the actual
game on which it isnt really just that because you are betting but also you are showing some support into the team that you are looking forward into.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 08, 2024, 09:38:18 PM
The situation when you are at the stadium watching live the match of your favorite team will be very different from when you choose to watch at home through the broadcast, in terms of excitement, excitement and excitement obviously it will be more pronounced when you watch live but for the problem of risk is also different which is where there are possible risks that will never even be expected when you watch live, and I think cases like the one discussed by the OP are not uncommon in some parts of the world, there are always victims after the match takes place and that's because they taunt each other and make fun of the opposing team.

As you said, it is true that it is a high pressure situation between the two camps of supporters that in the end there are some of them who are desperate to hurt each other and end up causing many victims. I think a situation like this is very difficult to control because it affects thousands of supporters, and obviously the solution is that we have to take care of ourselves by always being kind wherever we are, or if you really want to avoid bad possibilities like that, maybe the choice is that you are better off watching at home via broadcast.
This is why there are really people who are really that tend to go into stadium or any event place just because they do want to feel up the vibe and it is really that in different ambiance if you are with that the crowd.
This isnt something that you could really be able to experience when you are playing or watching in your own home. This is why even some people do know about the risks involved when it comes to this but still they dont bother. We cant really be able to make out that kind of generalization in all places to be something like this. Its not bad to have some fun without having those kind of doubts and having that kind of control when it comes to actions. The most important part that you do really need to consider out on your actions which it could trigger those possible aggression on which this is something that should be avoided.

Exactly, you have said the biggest reason why people prefer to watch live at the stadium, even though it requires you to spend a sum of money that may not be small for the need to buy tickets or for other needs while you are there, when in fact there are other options that are not troublesome, namely by watching the match at home via broadcast, but this is the difference and you have said the truth that indeed we will feel a very different atmosphere when we are in a crowd of people who support each other's team by singing various slogans and that is indeed exciting.

While when you just watch at home then there will not be too exhilarating chemistry that you feel and maybe you just smile without any lively excitement like when you watch it live at the stadium. Honestly a few years ago in my place also happened bad things like the case mentioned by the OP when the local team that has been an enemy for a long time competed and in the end the situation became so hot and uncontrollable that the match was not even continued and the incident sacrificed dozens of supporters died, but yes, people have never been kapok to watch live. So the point is that what becomes a problem or what can trigger problems is when you are unable to control yourself which can have fatal consequences, if you want to stay safe then you must realize that watching live matches is nothing more than an entertainment event from the excitement of the atmosphere, your goal is only there for entertainment as well as supporting the team of pride and not to trigger possible problems.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: tread93 on March 09, 2024, 05:00:49 AM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)



Woah, talk about some crazy stuff. You just never know these days you've got to be careful out there. Especially in a foreign country and if you are with your friends - drinking- etc etc things could get ugly and fast. What an unfortunate occurance. At the same time if you're on an opposing teams turn you better make sure you act accordingly, there are so many drunk idiots out there that do some really stupid shit, lol.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on March 09, 2024, 06:16:58 AM
It's sad to hear what happened to those Brighton fans in Rome. I may not be a sports fan, but it's important to be cautious and responsible when traveling to watch in foreign countries. Avoid showing off, prioritize safety, beware of surroundings and local laws, and respect customs to avoid getting into trouble and ensure a safe and enjoyable experience.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: teamsherry on March 09, 2024, 08:01:49 AM

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging

Bro this football it can get far personal than you think especially when emotions have gotten in and we cant say for sure the actions of the Brighton fans or what they did to result to such actions from the Roma fans, this kind of stuff happens all the times in street football, it often results to fighting but not up to that extent, the only thing that I'm concerned about is that they forget to take their security seriously for themselves.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: danherbias07 on March 09, 2024, 10:41:12 AM
The report didn't say the visitors were showy like putting on their club jerseys and chanting their club songs. The information is sketchy and it's not certain if the attack was football related. According to the report, the attackers wore masks, meaning they were prepared. IMO, a fight couldn't have sprang up as a result of a disagreement between the rival fans. I think the attackers wanted to make a statement or they were just thieves as the personal belongings of the visitors were also stolen.
I think they are just thieves.
I mean, it's good to have an opponent cheering but it should not go as far as hurting them and stealing their possession. This is just madness and I think they are not as sporty as their team. It's nice to see fans cheering loudly for their preferred team but still, that should end with that.
The security too needs to be more strict about this kind of thing. Other sport kicks out the person who does this and worse, they ban them from entering the premises again. I think the announcer needs to keep reminding their fans about it. In basketball, we see different fans visiting the homecourt of the opponent or some do live in that state or city but they prefer the other team, just like in football. So security should expect this to happen and they must prevent it as early as possible. Maybe if they know something is getting heated in one spot, they should start going there to monitor it. Just so they know there are eyes watching them.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 10, 2024, 05:33:15 PM
Well, unfortunately this is something that we are always going to see in all our games, what surprises me is that in Europe there are these types of people, that personally I see European fans as more civil than any other part of the world, but Of course this is something that not everyone is equal in a society, in every society there are always people who will actually stand out but on the bad side, it is very unfortunate that there is violence thanks to a sport, if this had happened in my country they would sanction the stadium and They sanction the team, either to remove points or suspend the team for a few games, because this is a behavior that should not be allowed, I understand the adrenaline, but fighting among themselves is not going to make the team win or change the situation. marker, violence will never be the right way to do things.

In a local game where I live, I had to go to the brava bar, to South and my team lost, so they were on fire and one of them got the idea that they had to go burn the other team's fans, at that moment I went into action and told them that if they were crazy, or if they were Indians, or if they had fallen asleep, what's wrong with them, they are people, they are human beings, and besides, they are families with children, what's wrong with them, try to burn to people so that they would put them in prison later, fortunately things turned out well and they did nothing, but there were many of them with that idea, fortunately they did not turn against me, because there were like 20 crazy people, I would not have had the opportunity to defend myself.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: redsun114 on March 10, 2024, 06:20:24 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.
It might or might not have a connection with them being fans of Brighton and the attackers being fans of the opposite team, however, it proves that Rome isn't a safe country for travellers and tourists if such things can happen. That being said, I would also say that one doesn't need to show what side they are supporting if they know they are supporting the away team and the stadium is full of home fans which could create issues.

Even if you are there to support your team, you don't need to say it out loud or be too expressive about it, just enjoy the game, be happy or sad based on what happens in the game but just keep it to yourself for your personal safety in case home fans aren't very friendly by nature.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Crypto Library on March 10, 2024, 06:42:10 PM
It has been a very distressing event indeed. I will also agree with you that before leaving our country to support our team or any other team in another country, we need to think about security, especially first of all, we need to see how peaceful the area is, like Africa or areas where I think you should never go to see the game at your own risk in the country where the terrorist hangout. And besides, there is no guarantee that we will be safe if it is a peaceful region, as this topic of yours is telling.
I am actually not encouraging you to go to watch sports in a foreign country, because if you do not control your behavior in your own country, then such incidents can happen from your quarrels or fights with any people. So, first of all, I would say that if you go somewhere else, you should refrain from extra show off.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Zanab247 on March 10, 2024, 07:17:07 PM
Quote from: SeaCoinCollector.
It's sad to hear what happened to those Brighton fans in Rome. I may not be a sports fan, but it's important to be cautious and responsible when traveling to watch in foreign countries. Avoid showing off, prioritize safety, beware of surroundings and local laws, and respect customs to avoid getting into trouble and ensure a safe and enjoyable experience.
I believe all those fans have reason why they carry out such behavior because, if truly they are the fans of Brighton they would have not put such a thing on social media for other fans to see what they did during the game.

Life doesn't have duplicate and, once something bad happen to you, the people that are close to you will be the one to feel  it past, so fans need to be very careful for the long distance to go and support a particular team because if anything happen to you the team will not know that something happen to their fans.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 10, 2024, 08:35:41 PM
Quote from: SeaCoinCollector.
It's sad to hear what happened to those Brighton fans in Rome. I may not be a sports fan, but it's important to be cautious and responsible when traveling to watch in foreign countries. Avoid showing off, prioritize safety, beware of surroundings and local laws, and respect customs to avoid getting into trouble and ensure a safe and enjoyable experience.
I believe all those fans have reason why they carry out such behavior because, if truly they are the fans of Brighton they would have not put such a thing on social media for other fans to see what they did during the game.

Life doesn't have duplicate and, once something bad happen to you, the people that are close to you will be the one to feel  it past, so fans need to be very careful for the long distance to go and support a particular team because if anything happen to you the team will not know that something happen to their fans.
Totally out of their concern if you do ask me as if these things could really totally happen inside or outside stadiums due to those kind of conflicts in between opposing fans but actually there's no point on having these kind of incident considering that we are really just that free on who we would really be that cheering up into or supporting. For people who do love to go into other places just to show support and have some fun then it isnt really that wrong but make it sure that your level of actions isnt something that could provoke out someones aggressiveness. Im not saying that you shouldnt really be having those reactions but everything should really be in control or something that in moderate manner.

We dont know about on the things that on their mind specially if there's something that do really turns out to be opposing on what they do like and your actions getting in line
that becomes that irritable to them then its likely that it would really be creating conflicts and incidents such as this.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: EarnOnVictor on March 11, 2024, 08:19:10 AM
I do not blame the sport or the ardent fans but the evil perpetrator and the lapses in the security of the stadium. The heart of an average man is wickedly wicked, this is bad, why would you harm others just because of football? This is preposterous. Just like freedom of speech is our right, the right to support any team is equally our right and should not be taken from us by the bad heads in society. I pray those useless perpetrators of the evil act rot in jail.

But your advice is best fitting for evil people and those who cannot control their feelings simply because of football, and not the people rejoicing as this will never stop. I do not see what those guys they stabbed did that has not been done before in football, so why the hate? For me, I will continue to encourage people to express themselves as they like and not fake anything because of anyone but let's all be security conscious. Whether we like it or not, there will always be division in football where one side will support team A and the other side will support team B, but never should we take it too personally, after all, it is just football.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Outhue on March 11, 2024, 08:42:19 AM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant, and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to trouble or death. It is a game for fun and merriment, not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)


This is very sad to hear, I always have this type of unrest feeling about foreign lands and that's because if something happens, they will judge you based on who you are, and if you are from another country you might be served with unfair justice, as I have heard about my people been treated in other countries and this Always makes me wonder if I will ever be able to live in other countries.

A place where you are raised is when known to you, even if the place has its disadvantages you are already used to it, but a different place is completely out of the picture, you have no idea what's waiting on the other side.

I am taking kickboxing classes for protection's sake, no where is actually safe and we need to always be ready for the unexpected, just because it's peaceful around you doesn't mean that you can't get hurt at any time, learn to protect yourself if you can or stay away from crowd places.

I am a football fan too to some extent but I don't always like going to watch a live match when its crowdy, I don't always like crowdy places because I always get discomfort easily, may their souls rest in perfect peace.



Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Hispo on March 11, 2024, 04:52:40 PM
It is very sad and also a big coincidence that in many of this tragic events, those who end up being harmed are either not from the country or the city, basically tourists, hopelly this is nothing life-threatening so they can continue to enjoy this sport without the fear of stepping in an stadium for the rest of their lives.
Football, as the king sport it is, obviously it makes people to lose their sense of morality sometimes and makes them to do stupid things, because how invested they feel as fans of certain clubs.

It reminds me the occasion when Brazil lost to Germany im the final match of the World Cup in 2014, I am pretty sure there were riots in the Brazilian cities that same night. It is okey to vent one's feelings and anger, but someone is not supposed to harm anyone physically or economically, for Gods sake.  ::)



Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Quidat on March 11, 2024, 04:59:29 PM
It is very sad and also a big coincidence that in many of this tragic events, those who end up being harmed are either not from the country or the city, basically tourists, hopelly this is nothing life-threatening so they can continue to enjoy this sport without the fear of stepping in an stadium for the rest of their lives.
Football, as the king sport it is, obviously it makes people to lose their sense of morality sometimes and makes them to do stupid things, because how invested they feel as fans of certain clubs.

It reminds me the occasion when Brazil lost to Germany im the final match of the World Cup in 2014, I am pretty sure there were riots in the Brazilian cities that same night. It is okey to vent one's feelings and anger, but someone is not supposed to harm anyone physically or economically, for Gods sake.  ::)


Once these kind of incidents or conflicts could happen on a certain place and on a rampant manner then for sure it would really be something that be excluded by those tourist list that would really be going into their place just because on having that kind of shit reputation on which its locals are the ones who do causes up so much problem or trouble or simply life threatening kind of situation
then you cant blame them on. This is one of the main reasons on why i do skip out on going into those places specially if it isnt ours on which even if they are really that not bound to have those kind
of actions but you cant really remove into someones mind about those probabilities that could happen and this is something that you cant blame into other peoples mind and this is why
they do become that skeptical on hanging through into those places.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Juse14 on March 11, 2024, 05:23:24 PM
I sympathize with what happened in that match. a surprising event that we could not have predicted beforehand. The reason is that so far the European League event has run smoothly without causing any casualties or attacks between supporters which have resulted in physical violence and murder. and of course this can cause special concerns for football fans, when they want to watch a match live at a certain stadium. Of course, this will not only cause concern, but also harm the football industry.

As football fans, we should support it appropriately, and don't let differences in choices make us darken our eyes and give rise to hatred towards other people, especially if we behave anarchically. because this behavior is completely useless and will not make you a great person.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: passwordnow on March 11, 2024, 05:27:55 PM
Taunts are normal with the fans for every intense matches but if I am foreign to the home land, I'd just basically going to enjoy the moment and I'd avoid to splur my emotion just because I am an avid fan of a team. But I will also try to contemplate if it's okay to do some taunt if the territory of that home land is quite welcoming and seems fine. Still, when I am away, I'd just do my own thing of being cautious and I'll try to avoid arguments that might result into a bad one because you don't know what's in the heads of the other fans when they're too emotional.
Sports is too emotional when you're an avid fan of it and there is no one going to stop you from having that emotional breakdown when your team is losing and there's the other fans from the winning team trying to taunt and tease you because you're a fan of the losing team. This happens at most times when you watch each sport but for me, just enjoy it and I'd avoid putting a lot of hard feelings and emotions on it because it is not going to result the way you'd expect it to be. Some that can't control their emotions as well could do crazy things.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: borovichok on March 11, 2024, 08:33:30 PM
Some fans can be violent and ready to do anything to an opposition so fans need to be careful as the OP have noted. There are a series of cases of sports violence which has claimed the lives of football fans and maybe some blame should go to the stadium security security for not preventing this violence. The rate at which fans fight in stadiums is becoming alarming and this calls for sensitization among fans to make them understand that even though you support rival clubs that doesn’t make you enemies.

Fans should only cheer players and avoid violence because life is too precious and so when there are casualties the excitement that comes with the game is lost. People will no longer concentrate on the game but rather be distracted due to the violent scene. As fans, let us embrace love for one another so that we can enjoy the sports activities.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: dezoel on March 16, 2024, 02:33:42 PM
With the thousands of people that are watching there, only two of them were stabbed? I think there is a personal reason for this, just like on most crimes that we heard. Still, your advice there must still be applied, as there are also crazy people who like to trip others, especially if they are not from their territory. I feel sorry for the 2 victims there. All what they want is only to unwind and go for a vacation but they didn't know that it was already their last moments.

The event organizers might also be responsible for this because they didn't inspect the people carefully if they have a deadly weapon with them. They should be penalized and they should help the victim's family in terms of finances.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Casdinyard on March 16, 2024, 11:08:09 PM
Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/07/yvNxJ.png

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Source Link Here (https://news.sky.com/story/two-brighton-fans-stabbed-in-italy-ahead-of-roma-game-13089057#:~:text=Two%20Brighton%20fans%20have%20been,police%20in%20Rome%20have%20said)


My heart goes towards those people who got injured, and fuck you to everyone who takes it too far when you watch games. Fuck all these parasocial relationships you're making up with your idols, and fuck you if you justify this type of behavior. It's one thing to love and show support to a team that you've stuck with for a long time, I myself have favorite teams in every ESport game that I chose to be a master of. But it doesn't fucking mean I'd walk the wire for them, let alone kill someone just because they were offending my favorite team.

At the end of the day these are people who got nothing to do with you. They probably don't even know you exist and you're out here hurting other people just cause they don't like your team? that's stupid. You're wasting your time and your life away for someone who's not gonna do the same thing for you, keep that in mind, everytime you get into a heated argument with someone who just talked shit against your team. Be sensible, be civilized. be a fan but don't be a dickrider. Know your limits and set boundaries against yourself and each other so you don't go out there stabbing people who you don't agree with. This is just insane man, how people can go out there and waste their lives all because of a fucking game of all things.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: Solosanz on March 17, 2024, 07:25:18 AM
With the thousands of people that are watching there, only two of them were stabbed? I think there is a personal reason for this, just like on most crimes that we heard. Still, your advice there must still be applied, as there are also crazy people who like to trip others, especially if they are not from their territory. I feel sorry for the 2 victims there. All what they want is only to unwind and go for a vacation but they didn't know that it was already their last moments.

The event organizers might also be responsible for this because they didn't inspect the people carefully if they have a deadly weapon with them. They should be penalized and they should help the victim's family in terms of finances.
How many people should being stabbed? :P

Knife and guns are different, if the attacker was using guns, you can expect there will be more than 2 victims because it's easy to use. While knife, when someone got stabbed, the other people will run.

The event organizer will help the victim's family, but I doubt they will get penalized.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: bakasabo on March 17, 2024, 07:56:33 AM
A question to all, does only a sports fan should be careful if situation like that happens? People in general should be cautious. Starting from not visiting specific places where people with criminal mind suppose to be situated, and ending with learning to solve problems like that verbally. What I mean is that someone can get stabbed not only in a football game, but even near his house, or anywhere else. And people who have a knife in their hand, not always they plan to use it, sometimes you can either out-talk them (in this case agree that opponents team is better), give them something (wallet for example). When such person uses knife that means a bottom line for him, and a person who is about to get stabbed hasnt done everything to avoid this situation.


Title: Re: Even as a sport fan be careful!
Post by: blckhawk on March 17, 2024, 08:07:55 AM
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it's also worrying to hear such incidents especially since there are really many fans who want to watch the game. As usual, the team they admire doesn't know them so they can hurt each other just because they are different from the team they support, and we don't control other people's minds, why don't we just let them choose who they want to support, right? Surely there are other reasons why they have reached the point of being hurt and possibly even resorting to violence. Since Live telecast via online is now a trend, it seems like it's better to just watch it that way, at least you know you're safe inside your home.
I guess there's just a lot of dumb people out there that don't know what to do and they immediately resort to violence, I guess that's how they do things in this kind of world, some people are really stupid that they'd kill someone over an event that's probably going to be forgotten and will only be on match record books and archive of television tapes which would probably not be seen for so long. People like that shouldn't even be allowed to attend any kind of sporting event anymore, if they can't take the insult of their favorite team losing then it's probably the best idea if they're not going to be a part of that team, when the team that those scoundrels are supporting would know about this craziness, they'll probably condone that person too. With that kind of attack, it's definitely in your best interest to stay at home even though there's a delay in the game, at least you know that you're going to be safe.