Reee: Which campaign has the most spammers?

[Vod]

Because that would require extra effort and the whole reason shitposters are using ChatGPT is to avoid having to commit any effort at all.

A new business idea, much like https://www.grammarly.com/?   Take some text and "dumb" it up. 

[FatFork]

Because that would require extra effort and the whole reason shitposters are using ChatGPT is to avoid having to commit any effort at all.

A new business idea, much like https://www.grammarly.com/?   Take some text and "dumb" it up. 

Don't give them ideas! Most posts from such lazy "AI-assisted" spammers and shitposters are dumb enough as it is. 

[JollyGood]

See, when this spammer wants to write in perfect English he can and he does. Here is an example of when he wants to use AI or pay others to post for him, there is a complete distinction. How is it possible everybody else can see it but Stake campaign manager Carollzinha cannot see it?

There is absolutely no doubt account farmers are entrenched in many campaigns but the Stake campaign has some of the worst spammers and furthermore, it seems to have more participants with neutral and negative tags as well as dubious post history than others. Only a particular campaign manager went on a hiring spree that had low quality posters with neutral and negative tags but that eventually ended when mixers were banned. Stake stands out alone now.

Sometimes it makes more sense to include more details in conversation rather than simply one or two liner responses. Most people are more interested in the details and how you came to such a conclusion than the answers themselves.

Stake signature is no different from other campaigns; they are only receiving negative energy because the manager does not belong to any club or pays more attention to forum politics, the DT, or the Merit system.

Four experienced individuals grade stake participants, and users with negative evaluations are dropped. My postings are misinterpreted for AI-generated content since they are perhaps too brilliant to be written by humans. I guess.

[SamReomo]

Because that would require extra effort and the whole reason shitposters are using ChatGPT is to avoid having to commit any effort at all.

That's true, the ones who may entirely depend of AI for their posts often are those people who don't put time to write the posts themselves. AI spamming or even use of AI for correcting your English mistakes is something which's totally destructive for someone's learning process.

I know there are many users who don't have good English grammar but they try their best to write posts themselves and overtime their writing gets improved. The ones who basically rely of ChatGpt or other AI generators that are available will not even think about improving themselves.

It really requires effort to create posts and someone who's lazy would never ever put any effort to write the posts himself. Thanks to your thread, the number of AI spammers have been reduced on this forum and most AI generated posts are also getting deleted by moderators only because of your thread. I really appreciate that thread and I believe most other members also appreciate your efforts in creating and maintaining that thread.

[Ultegra134]

Yep, basically the same as recent case with LUCKMCFLY. According to their rating sheet, he was their "best" poster for months in a row, consistently receiving top ratings from the whole team. This is pure sheep mentality at its finest, or just blatant manipulation.

Wow, did anyone else notice that some posters with supposedly higher ratings have a higher maximum quota? There are a few users with up to 85 maximum paid posts per week. I remember having a 60 post quota, but it seems they've changed their policy and it now depends on your rating, something that I don't recall seeing a few months ago that I had gone through their announcement thread.

The maximum total of paid posts you can have is based in your previous week final rating based the following data:
7,25 to 7,49: up to 50 posts
7,50 to 7,99: up to 60 posts
8,00 to 8,49: up to70 posts
8,50 to 10: up to 85 posts

On top of that, the reported user borovichok has a score of over 7.5, deeming him as a good poster, by 3 different individuals.

[PowerGlove]

@powerGlove is this possible? I know you're a tech wizard.

I'm not the best person to ask; I don't keep a close eye on that space (AI, that is).

The LLM stuff in particular is pretty underwhelming, IMO: it's like having really convenient access to someone that's read every book in the library, but can only remember some of it, and didn't really understand any of it...

I hope that these types of posts don't become the norm on Bitcointalk: they're seriously tedious to read [1]. It's obvious to me (and many others) when someone's post is either superficially perfect but totally worthless, or when their post isn't worthless (because it has original thinking embedded in it), but it's clearly written at a level that's beyond the author (as in, the presentation is sophisticated, but the ideas are not). In either case (that is, the text was either generated or improved with AI), you're not fooling as many people as you might think, so, why not just relax, and be yourself? I mean, I get not wanting to sound like a dumbass, but if you're not a dumbass, then, that will shine through, trust me, and if you are a dumbass, then, well... that will shine through, too; there's no hiding it, I'm afraid: all the paraphrasing in the world can't make a stupid idea smart (you might succeed in making a stupid idea sound smart, but it will still be a stupid idea).

Anyway, if I were you, I'd stop using Grammarly (they seem to have rebuilt their product, and they're now leaning pretty hard into the "AI revolution").

[1] I've been considering an approach for some time now to get ahead of this kind of non-organic posting: I think giving each member a way to quickly "delete" posts (just from their own point of view) would be cool. But, that's not really an interesting idea on its own, where it gets compelling is when you allow people to divide their own personal modlog into named "channels" that are then made available for other users to subscribe to. So, nutildah, for example, might have one named "AI shitposts" and if I were subscribed to it, then any AI shitpost (in his estimation) that he deletes would be omitted from my view, too. That way, there's some tooling for users to take issues like these into their own hands, and because the moderators themselves aren't involved, no one can really moan about being censored or having their rights violated and suchlike, because it's their peers effectively telling them to shut up. I could also see some campaign managers picking a few very trusted user-modlog-channels to be subscribed to (either all the time, or maybe just when they're counting posts), which would make it easier for them to avoid paying for spam.

[ineedhelpplease]

If they are too lazy to just think about what they are going to type, then how do you expect them to go through all that trouble of replacing words. Now you have talked about it, how many users do you often see should short forms of words such as "u" or "bt"?

Seeing a user try to spin the text abbreviate normal words, which is unusual behavior here in the forum, is a number one red flag for me.

Where I'm online its extremely common, but for this community now that I think of it more, I don't see em very often.

Because that would require extra effort and the whole reason shitposters are using ChatGPT is to avoid having to commit any effort at all.

That explains it but unfortunately these people seem to refuse to use their brain even if their life was on the line. Their AI spam will be caught on and they will get exposed for it.


Also, to add on wasn't this "borovichok" guy basically given two chances to stop posting AI? He had drama over AI spam like one or two months ago which should've been a wake up call to stop there. It really isn't difficult for him to drop the AI stuff and just start finding and posting manually on topics that he has knowledge of.

Whatever he's in right now it's definitely over for him at this point, what he is doing is just extremely stupid especially after being given two realizations that forum members know hes AI posting.

A new business idea, much like https://www.grammarly.com/?   Take some text and "dumb" it up. 

Loll

[Agbe]

I have read some of the comments and the arguments on the thread and most of the suggestions and advise given to Stake campaign manager is very and if only the CM accept them. And mostly the reduction of the campaign weekly posts. Because why most of those people are spamming because probably they are working in the physical life and also have an account in altcoinstalks so the work load is heavy for them so they are to post with marathon or use AI to complete their posts in the week to receive pay. So I also agree that they should reduce the quantity and go for quality. And quality always comes from 15 to 25 of posts per week.

Even 30 can generate shitposters. You don't behave to occupy the participants in the forum for 24hours. You have to free them to think what to write and be a creative writers. And with that quality posting will emerge. And another thing I also discovered from Stake, the campaign manager or whoever select participants purposely select shitposters and spammers. Probably that is their choice.

After the first thread for spammers Stake restructure their campaign rules yet it is on high side for posting quantity of 85 to get paid fully so many users have targeted that for every week to be paid full. And forgotten the quality. And one thing Stake participants should know is that, writing a long comment or thread in most cases lead to out of points or beating around the bush. Just straight to the main point and leave.

People like your simple contribution and not your long writing. Long writing is very good with good points, and what is good points unknown because what you think is a good points in your long writing is not a point for another users. Be precise and concise. Be a good ambassador for Stake.

[nutildah]

Let's use the above post as a learning experience... I'm not trying to criticize the poster in any way, but let them (and anybody else) know how to write a post worthwhile reading..

 - First of all, you need to break up your paragraphs. Four sentences per paragraph max.
 - Second of all, you don't need to bother making a recap of the thread, "what you learned"; it should be taken for granted that you read it.
 - In addition to writing shorter sentences with more punctuation, it'd be good for you to heed your own advice here:

Be precise and concise.

Anyway, this is how I would have written your post, barring any major word changes:

I also agree that they should reduce the quantity and go for quality. And quality always comes from 15 to 25 of posts per week. Even 30 can possibly generate shitposters.

After the first thread for spammers, Stake restructured their campaign rules, yet a post count of 85 will get paid fully, so many users have targeted that for every week to be paid full. Forgotten is the quality. One thing Stake participants should know is that writing a long comment can be seen as beating around the bush. Just get straight to the point and leave. People should enjoy your simple contributions.

Be precise and concise. Be a good ambassador for Stake.