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March 10, 2024, 02:14:20 PM
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We all know that Bitcoin is a non-custodial digital currency, not fiat. So Bitcoin being decentralized makes it popular and loved by everyone, and Bitcoin cannot be stored in banks.Moreover, central exchange platforms are more like centralized exchanges. So storing coins here means your coins are no longer in your custody. The coin will become owned or controlled by a third party.Where you can own your own bank through a wallet with enough security and precautions. Storing your coins in the center is at your own peril.You must know more about centralized exchanges, or KYC, and Bitcoin decentralized exchanges.
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March 10, 2024, 02:58:58 PM
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My idea would be to create a bank to safely store people's bitcoin and other crypto for people who just want to hold for a lot of time.
They would register with the passport or ID, it would cost 100 GBP + 1% to deposit and verify people's identities.
I Think storing Bitcoin in the bank is not possible and it is a flop idea. It is essential to classify holding bitcoin custody to yourself so that users have full control over their assets. But, the rise of centralized exchanges is increasing third-party involvement in Bitcoin transactions greatest to more approvals from go-betweens. In start bitcoin was firstly proposed as a decentralized currency but it has now moved to decent investment assets. In my opinion Bitcoin's original purpose was to enable peer-to-peer transactions without involving any third party but the increasing involvement of centralized exchanges and government complication in every country has raised questions about Bitcoin true goal.


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March 10, 2024, 06:56:42 PM
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My idea would be to create a bank to safely store people's bitcoin and other crypto for people who just want to hold for a lot of time.
They would register with the passport or ID, it would cost 100 GBP + 1% to deposit and verify people's identities.
Then, to withdraw, it would take 3 months, they would have to show the passport and have a meeting via zoom once a month during 3 months stating they would want to withdraw, it would cost 300 USD plus 1% of the value.
It would compensate for people who want to hold for a lot of time without having security concerns.
Great joke. If I could, I would downvote your merit for making similar statements. Smiley

No need for bitcoin bank. Those who are concerned about the security of bitcoin storage are upgrading their skills to solve this problem (looking for solutions) and using various technical methods, such as hardware wallet devices. Those who are not satisfied with this go to traditional banks.

The combination (as proposed by you) of bitcoin and banks looks like complete absurdity and madness, because bitcoin was created to save us from dependence on banks.

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March 10, 2024, 07:12:37 PM
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Satoshi created Bitcoin because he wanted a currency that would be free from control by any entity, so having Bitcoin in a bank goes against everything Bitcoin stands for. Also, you're not the first with such an idea, the American banks association are currently seeking SEC's approval to start keeping Bitcoinin the banks for clients. I don't mean to discourage you but if you really want to support Bitcoin, this is truly not the best way.
Very well said. Satoshi didn't make Bitcoin for us to just entrust it back to the banks. Yeah, the idea seems to be a business potential trend but we don't have to avail such service when we can do it on our own.

It defeats the purpose of having Bitcoin when you have everything on your hand and then, you're going to go with handling fees and other fees that you have to pay upon availing the service.

I don't buy into this service because that's entirely not what Bitcoin is all about. There could be those people that are scared to death on how to keep their Bitcoins and might avail this kind of service but hopefully, they learn on their own that they shouldn't entrust their Bitcoins with anyone.

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March 10, 2024, 11:14:31 PM
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This is one of the worst ideas I have ever read about storing bitcoin. Do you know that to start with, bitcoin promotes the anonymity of its users, and here you are going to ask the user who is to deposit his or her bitcoin for their personal data, including their passport, which is not safe at all? 
 
Any Bitcoin user who is willing to start their bitcoin holding journey doesn't need to be lazy at all. All you need is to have your private key or wallet phrase safe. Keep it to yourself. You can be your own bank, have your own volt, which only you will have access to, and the wallet will also be saved in a different location.
 
Saving your bitcoin in a bank poses a greater threat because the bank will upload that data into a cloud, which they believe is safe, and the more bitcoin the bank starts holding, the more it will attract attention. Hackers can penetrate such a database and make away with everyone's holdings, so the bank won't be able to repay all those bitcoins to the depositor; rather, they will file for bankruptcy.

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March 10, 2024, 11:33:24 PM
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This is one of the worst ideas I have ever read about storing bitcoin. Do you know that to start with, bitcoin promotes the anonymity of its users, and here you are going to ask the user who is to deposit his or her bitcoin for their personal data, including their passport, which is not safe at all? 
 
Any Bitcoin user who is willing to start their bitcoin holding journey doesn't need to be lazy at all. All you need is to have your private key or wallet phrase safe. Keep it to yourself. You can be your own bank, have your own volt, which only you will have access to, and the wallet will also be saved in a different location.
 
Saving your bitcoin in a bank poses a greater threat because the bank will upload that data into a cloud, which they believe is safe, and the more bitcoin the bank starts holding, the more it will attract attention. Hackers can penetrate such a database and make away with everyone's holdings, so the bank won't be able to repay all those bitcoins to the depositor; rather, they will file for bankruptcy.

Makes sense. Asking for personal info goes against the privacy vibe of Bitcoin. Being your own bank with a secure wallet and private key sounds more in line with the crypto spirit. Plus no worries about potential bank hacks or data breaches. Keep it simple and in your own hands

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March 11, 2024, 05:16:43 AM
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Not a problem, you should try to create your own Bitcoin banks, just like someone creates Wrapped Bitcoin, centralized entity creates Bitcoin ETFs, people who create their own centralized exchanges etc. All of them exist despite decentralization is the most important thing in Bitcoin and it no one forbid to use those fake/centralized entity over real Bitcoin. So, in order to know if your idea is good or not, you need to build it.

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March 13, 2024, 11:56:12 AM
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My idea would be to create a bank to safely store people's bitcoin and other crypto for people who just want to hold for a lot of time.
Not your keys; not your coins, why would someone lose custody of their funds, lose their privacy and lose the security of their funds by storing it in a 'BTC bank'. We already have enough to worry about with people who store their funds in centralized exchanges and deposit it in lending and earning platforms, and now you come up with this idea that is far more risky and should never be developed. If you want to store BTC for the long term, use a hardware wallet or an airgapped wallet.

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March 19, 2024, 12:30:19 PM
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Op I don't need to read everything in your thread. Your caption and the content of your thread is wrong. Op I must tell you, you brought a very wrong idea to the forum and that will not even included in the plan of bitcoin even in the future. Well what you saying is not far from centralized exchanges so you can save your coins in the central exchange platform but remember once you do that the coins will never be your custody again but the owners of the exchange will be in control of your coins. But if you are referring to bitcoin to be saved in bank then lock this thread because that will never happen in any day.

Same here as can't  comprehend op is deviating from the main objective of creator of the BTC for at any time it happens that one person can store, access of keeping others BTC it will be very easy to be control by any government or group of individuals,  which may not work well with the plan of BTC pioneer.

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March 19, 2024, 12:44:03 PM
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Not a problem, you should try to create your own Bitcoin banks, just like someone creates Wrapped Bitcoin, centralized entity creates Bitcoin ETFs, people who create their own centralized exchanges etc. All of them exist despite decentralization is the most important thing in Bitcoin and it no one forbid to use those fake/centralized entity over real Bitcoin. So, in order to know if your idea is good or not, you need to build it.

Well said, to know if your idea is good or not, OP should build it, don't give up your dreams or plans just because of people's opinions. Like centralized exchanges, thousands of people complain and criticize them, but millions still use them, they still have a large customer base. Many investors even use them not only to trade but also to store their bitcoins even though this goes against the decentralized nature of bitcoin.

OP, the use of CEX is not encouraged or supported, but as you can see, they are the largest growing entity in the market.

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March 19, 2024, 12:55:10 PM
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Not a problem, you should try to create your own Bitcoin banks, just like someone creates Wrapped Bitcoin, centralized entity creates Bitcoin ETFs, people who create their own centralized exchanges etc. All of them exist despite decentralization is the most important thing in Bitcoin and it no one forbid to use those fake/centralized entity over real Bitcoin. So, in order to know if your idea is good or not, you need to build it.

Well said, to know if your idea is good or not, OP should build it, don't give up your dreams or plans just because of people's opinions. Like centralized exchanges, thousands of people complain and criticize them, but millions still use them, they still have a large customer base. Many investors even use them not only to trade but also to store their bitcoins even though this goes against the decentralized nature of bitcoin.

OP, the use of CEX is not encouraged or supported, but as you can see, they are the largest growing entity in the market.

We can't verify if the idea or his plan is good not until he operate this plan and make it last for at least a year or two without having any issue. But expect that there's a lot of doubts or criticism knowing that he plans to launch a crypto bank which people don't trust since what they commonly believe is not your keys not your coins so scamming is possible to happen and they are just been so careful trusting their funds to any platform.

But he could try to make this planned project to launch since who know he became a big institution where people could able to trust and he should expect that it will take a lot of time before he can get the full trust of people. To convince them to use his bitcoin bank project.

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March 19, 2024, 01:08:48 PM
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My idea would be to create a bank to safely store people's bitcoin and other crypto for people who just want to hold for a lot of time.
They would register with the passport or ID, it would cost 100 GBP + 1% to deposit and verify people's identities.
Then, to withdraw, it would take 3 months, they would have to show the passport and have a meeting via zoom once a month during 3 months stating they would want to withdraw, it would cost 300 USD plus 1% of the value.
It would compensate for people who want to hold for a lot of time without having security concerns.
I believe that one of the sole purpose why satoshi brought about the idea of Bitcoin was to create an alternative  decentralised currency where there would be no third parties as the bank normally do, but from your idea, it seems you'll be in control of users funds and control the withdrawal system, of which a lot of people won't buy such ideas. Moreover the fees you placed for withdrawal it's much even the procudure is stressful, a lot of people won't want to undergo such stres just to withdraw their money, it just like queuing in the  bank for withdrawal, which can be very stressful.

 Maybe you should consider reducing your charges for deposit and withdrawal, then people might consider banking their crypto in your dream App, also if you make the withdrawal process less stressful, i guess it might be considered as well. Come to think of it, there are many exchanges with wallets where people could save their crypto currencies without passing through much stress of paying huge fees if they fail to hold for a long time.

 A lot of things could make people consider their choice of saving for a long time, especially emergency and health issues etc, so i think you should consider that and maybe retrace your ideology, well I'm not trying to discourage you, it's just my honest opinion.
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March 19, 2024, 01:29:20 PM
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We can't verify if the idea or his plan is good not until he operate this plan and make it last for at least a year or two without having any issue. But expect that there's a lot of doubts or criticism knowing that he plans to launch a crypto bank which people don't trust since what they commonly believe is not your keys not your coins so scamming is possible to happen and they are just been so careful trusting their funds to any platform.

But he could try to make this planned project to launch since who know he became a big institution where people could able to trust and he should expect that it will take a lot of time before he can get the full trust of people. To convince them to use his bitcoin bank project.

This plan is certain to fail, I really dont believe OP can even maintain the security of "that bank" with the way how he thinks about the idea.
What guarantees can be provided if the bank is hacked? Why do we have to wait 3 months for withdrawal? this is not a multi level marketing lol.
$127 + $350 + 2% of the deposit value = this is a robbery, not a bank.

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March 19, 2024, 01:43:56 PM
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By the way, the genesis of this idea--that people want a service to keep their Bitcoin safe rather than doing it themselves--is the same phenomenon I wrote about in the Anon Paradox: that most people do not want to take on the challenge of keeping their wealth protected. Most people don't own a safe, a gun, and are trained to use those things. Most people would actually be terrified knowing their their life savings could be lost or stolen while keeping it physically on their own person.

(And the paradox here is that for small amounts that people are comfortable with losing, they do want to handle that themselves in order to keep anonymity).




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March 19, 2024, 01:44:08 PM
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This post should be ranked next to impossible because if I understand what OP is talking about it would mean he is envisioning a Bitcoin bank, just like fiat bank.

BTC being decentralized for one should give the whole idea of what it is and how it is a currency of anonymity that promises great store of value in the future, but everyone must have the responsibility of keeping their coins safe in a wallet with private keys.

It may take some time to become aware of how to be safe with the practice of keeping your BTC secure from hackers, scammers, market volatilities as well, but having become a member here, overtime with more engagement you should be able to learn which method works best.

Although for large BTC investments some may opt to use brokers that specialize in securing the crypto and profer advise on the best way to stay safe and invest or trade to make profit.

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March 19, 2024, 01:45:54 PM
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We can't verify if the idea or his plan is good not until he operate this plan and make it last for at least a year or two without having any issue. But expect that there's a lot of doubts or criticism knowing that he plans to launch a crypto bank which people don't trust since what they commonly believe is not your keys not your coins so scamming is possible to happen and they are just been so careful trusting their funds to any platform.

But he could try to make this planned project to launch since who know he became a big institution where people could able to trust and he should expect that it will take a lot of time before he can get the full trust of people. To convince them to use his bitcoin bank project.

This plan is certain to fail, I really dont believe OP can even maintain the security of "that bank" with the way how he thinks about the idea.
What guarantees can be provided if the bank is hacked? Why do we have to wait 3 months for withdrawal? this is not a multi level marketing lol.
$127 + $350 + 2% of the deposit value = this is a robbery, not a bank.

There are a lot of things that don't make sense according to the OP's idea as you mentioned but those things can change later through customer feedback. I won't rely on that and hastily conclude that his ideas and plans will definitely fail. What I want to know is whether he really has the bravery and qualifications to do this, or he just comes up with an idea but has no knowledge about it.

Many people object to OP's idea of creating a centralized service but let's see how centralized exchanges have been and still exist. So our hasty conclusion that he will fail because this is a centralized project is not convincing enough.

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March 19, 2024, 02:40:23 PM
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April is still far but you are here fooling around Cheesy. Not only that the idea is risky because we are handing out our Bitcoins to a random stranger, but we also have to pay a lot and then give our sensitive details, just like that. I think that's a suicide, haha and I don't think people on their right minds are going to agree to do all of that thinking that they can now store their coins safely and hassle-free.

Anyway, this idea is not new and I already heard a couple of OP's who promote it before but I haven't heard any updates from them. I guess it's safe to say that all of them have failed. Bitcoin is already our own bank and there is no need for a real bank on it. The ones that only need that are the fiats. Period.

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It would be much more profitable to keep money in the bank instead of depreciating it due to inflation but to convert that money into bitcoins. Keeping money in bank is very risky in my country so I can't agree to keep money in bank for now. So I took the long term holding plan by converting my savings into bitcoins and keeping them in the wallet.

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My idea would be to create a bank to safely store people's bitcoin and other crypto for people who just want to hold for a lot of time.
They would register with the passport or ID, it would cost 100 GBP + 1% to deposit and verify people's identities.
Then, to withdraw, it would take 3 months, they would have to show the passport and have a meeting via zoom once a month during 3 months stating they would want to withdraw, it would cost 300 USD plus 1% of the value.
It would compensate for people who want to hold for a lot of time without having security concerns.

Before you create this thread, did you forget that bitcoin is a decentralized currency? Why will you be the one to createa place where people will store their bitcoin wallets? It has been in the industry for a long time now, and no one complains about that. People have been using their wallets for 10 years now, and nothing happens unless you, as the holder, misplace your private key and another person sees it and packs your money? If not, I don't think it will be important for people to pay you so that you can create a place where they will store their bitcoin when there are wallets to do that.

However, do you think people will trust you on this? Because when it comes to bitcoin investment or any other cryptocurrency investment, high security is required, and anybody who believes I think you can get access to their investment, so that is why nobody will trust you on this. I think you should focus and do something different in the crypto space.

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Many investors even use them not only to trade but also to store their bitcoins even though this goes against the decentralized nature of bitcoin.
The risk of using centralized exchanges to store your coins is not in that it goes against the decentralized nature of BTC, but that it puts the coins you store in there at risk. Centralized exchanges confiscate people's funds for any reason at all and they also use customers' money to fund their own businesses, and so they can lose it at anytime and lead to exchange to bankruptcy.

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