Resolved: SCAM REPORT | Heisenberg63

[zir787]

What happened:: Scammed me for 294.89 USD

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2313812

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231477.new#new and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5368181.new#new and
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154316.0
Amount Scammed: 294.80 USD
Payment Method: Crypto / LTC
Proof of Payment: https://blockchair.com/litecoin/transaction/c08498d6df9717994c1f25cb823daf33adf609fe7071b9bccd691ddf2a1e8f9d?From=crypto.com
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/MBl3RB6
Additional Notes: Have reached out to him on Friday asking if he has 500 CAD worth Amazon.ca vouchers. He replies confirming that he has them. I load up my wallet and send him payment. Upon sending payment info he says me to wait and ever since than he never read any of my comments. I be patient and wait hoping he will reply since he said he may fall asleep and he never replied to me after that. A friend of mine messaged him from a different ID and he instantly responds to him. I can share proofs of that too if needed.

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[Nwada001]

Sorry for the inconvenience, but where did you get the Telegram username from? As I can't find the dealer's telegram ID on the reference link you shared, if it was truly from the dealer, then he might have been busy or something else. As I can see from the screenshot you shared, the last time he read your message was immediately after he said, Wait, please. 
 
Also on this forum, he has not been online for the past few days; maybe something might have happened—a faulty gadget or anything—that could disrupt his internet access. If you are in a hurry, I would advise you to wait a little longer. The person in question has completed a lot of deals here, at least from what I can see in his trust list.

[zir787]

Sorry for the inconvenience, but where did you get the Telegram username from? As I can't find the dealer's telegram ID on the reference link you shared, if it was truly from the dealer, then he might have been busy or something else. As I can see from the screenshot you shared, the last time he read your message was immediately after he said, Wait, please.
 
Also on this forum, he has not been online for the past few days; maybe something might have happened—a faulty gadget or anything—that could disrupt his internet access. If you are in a hurry, I would advise you to wait a little longer. The person in question has completed a lot of deals here, at least from what I can see in his trust list.

The seller is acting smart.

His old thread has his ID of Telegram: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154316.0

At the end on the Thread it says : “ Contact me here on the forum or on telegram : @eldon1”

To your 2nd point where his device could be faulty: He just replied to a friend who messaged him on Telegram for sales enquiry. I am happy to share snapshot in private as my friend is not willing to share his identity.

Any support to bring such reputed seller being bad would be helpful.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Please do share the second screenshots too where he replied to your friend's text. If the evidence shows that he is simply pretending to be offline and ignoring your messages while replying to other people, then we shall tag and flag his profile.
One can not just simply start ghosting in the middle of a deal. It's shady behavior

[Heisenberg63]

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

[zir787]

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

You have acess to this froum and I sent you a private message 24 hours ago.
I lost money and it is by your account so fix that please.

If you lost your phone than prove it and why did you not post here and other places that you lost phone and your Telegram is being used by scammer?

[Heisenberg63]

I just got access to everything now man but not the telegram account, I figured out many guys have been scammed after I opened my accounts back.
Please do not send any money to that guy who is having my tg.

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I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

Do you want to say here how you lost your phone, but someone who found it somehow recognized your business model and is deceiving people by selling them your services, which of course they do not deliver? It sounds a bit unbelievable to me, but everything is possible.

These are very serious things, why didn't you immediately delete the old Telegram username from your posts and replace it with a new one (if you have one)? Why did you wait for a scam accusation against you to claim this, why didn't you do it immediately and in that way prevent the potential misuse of your TG account?

As far as I know, with your phone number, you can log in to the TG account registered with it. That way you can fully regain control over it.

[Heisenberg63]

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

Do you want to say here how you lost your phone, but someone who found it somehow recognized your business model and is deceiving people by selling them your services, which of course they do not deliver? It sounds a bit unbelievable to me, but everything is possible.

These are very serious things, why didn't you immediately delete the old Telegram username from your posts and replace it with a new one (if you have one)? Why did you wait for a scam accusation against you to claim this, why didn't you do it immediately and in that way prevent the potential misuse of your TG account?

As far as I know, with your phone number, you can log in to the TG account registered with it. That way you can fully regain control over it.

I did that already, I removed my telegram from my profile immediately to stop this guy from scamming more people.

[zir787]

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

Do you want to say here how you lost your phone, but someone who found it somehow recognized your business model and is deceiving people by selling them your services, which of course they do not deliver? It sounds a bit unbelievable to me, but everything is possible.

These are very serious things, why didn't you immediately delete the old Telegram username from your posts and replace it with a new one (if you have one)? Why did you wait for a scam accusation against you to claim this, why didn't you do it immediately and in that way prevent the potential misuse of your TG account?

As far as I know, with your phone number, you can log in to the TG account registered with it. That way you can fully regain control over it.

I second what is said here. Right now I am in a loss and there is not clear explanation but the fact that you lost your phone. You being into a business you should have created a thread the same second your realized your phone is lost and someone else could be scamming your contacts

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I did that already, I removed my telegram from my profile immediately to stop this guy from scamming more people.

Is this your right Telegram account here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154316.0
and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157247.msg51564998#msg51564998

Since you changed the password on your forum account, is there any chance to sign a message on the BTC address which you use on Bitcointalk
this BTC address: 1DDcgWEwgZfqDW51grWFgLEPxWSPhDxwdC posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4792869.msg43245540#msg43245540
This would remove any doubt that the account has changed owners in the meantime.

I second what is said here. Right now I am in a loss and there is not clear explanation but the fact that you lost your phone. You being into a business you should have created a thread the same second your realized your phone is lost and someone else could be scamming your contacts

Yes, you are right, it seems quite suspicious.
Also, the fact that the person who found the phone is somehow involved in his business and is defrauding people without any problem.

[Heisenberg63]

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

Do you want to say here how you lost your phone, but someone who found it somehow recognized your business model and is deceiving people by selling them your services, which of course they do not deliver? It sounds a bit unbelievable to me, but everything is possible.

These are very serious things, why didn't you immediately delete the old Telegram username from your posts and replace it with a new one (if you have one)? Why did you wait for a scam accusation against you to claim this, why didn't you do it immediately and in that way prevent the potential misuse of your TG account?

As far as I know, with your phone number, you can log in to the TG account registered with it. That way you can fully regain control over it.

I second what is said here. Right now I am in a loss and there is not clear explanation but the fact that you lost your phone. You being into a business you should have created a thread the same second your realized your phone is lost and someone else could be scamming your contacts

Being travelling and all I had at that time was my phone so how can I access anything? I total understand your frustration and really sorry for your loss man but I will get in touch with you to figure out how to solve this. Send your telegram in a PM and I will have a new one then I will message you.

I did that already, I removed my telegram from my profile immediately to stop this guy from scamming more people.

Is this your right Telegram account here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154316.0
and here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5157247.msg51564998#msg51564998

Since you changed the password on your forum account, is there any chance to sign a message on the BTC address which you use on Bitcointalk
this BTC address: 1DDcgWEwgZfqDW51grWFgLEPxWSPhDxwdC posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4792869.msg43245540#msg43245540
This would remove any doubt that the account has changed owners in the meantime.

I second what is said here. Right now I am in a loss and there is not clear explanation but the fact that you lost your phone. You being into a business you should have created a thread the same second your realized your phone is lost and someone else could be scamming your contacts

Yes, you are right, it seems quite suspicious.
Also, the fact that the person who found the phone is somehow involved in his business and is defrauding people without any problem.

I can not sign it because I was using an exchange back then.

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[zir787]

Please do share the second screenshots too where he replied to your friend's text. If the evidence shows that he is simply pretending to be offline and ignoring your messages while replying to other people, then we shall tag and flag his profile.
One can not just simply start ghosting in the middle of a deal. It's shady behavior

Here you go : https://imgur.com/YgIxHj2

Yes, you are right, it seems quite suspicious.
Also, the fact that the person who found the phone is somehow involved in his business and is defrauding people without any problem.

I wish and hope to get a resolution as I am in a very bad situation and I was not willing to do a deal for loosing money.

if you notice my uploaded image that my friend shared clearly he has replied what business and how much % he charge for it & it is today.

I am here man, DO NOT DEAL WITH THAT TELEGRAM NOW BECAUSE I LOST MY PHONE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE STEALER IS SCAMMING MY CONTACTS.

Do you want to say here how you lost your phone, but someone who found it somehow recognized your business model and is deceiving people by selling them your services, which of course they do not deliver? It sounds a bit unbelievable to me, but everything is possible.

These are very serious things, why didn't you immediately delete the old Telegram username from your posts and replace it with a new one (if you have one)? Why did you wait for a scam accusation against you to claim this, why didn't you do it immediately and in that way prevent the potential misuse of your TG account?

As far as I know, with your phone number, you can log in to the TG account registered with it. That way you can fully regain control over it.

I second what is said here. Right now I am in a loss and there is not clear explanation but the fact that you lost your phone. You being into a business you should have created a thread the same second your realized your phone is lost and someone else could be scamming your contacts

Being travelling and all I had at that time was my phone so how can I access anything? I total understand your frustration and really sorry for your loss man but I will get in touch with you to figure out how to solve this. Send your telegram in a PM and I will have a new one then I will message you.

I have already sent you a PM with my telegram ID and waiting to here from you. Do you have a turn around time for me?


Adding more info.

My last deal I did had the same LTC address so in spite of Heisenberg63 loosing his phone his wallet access should remain with him.

check my last deal with Heisenberg63 in Feb with LTC address same as he asked me to make payment on Friday and ghosted me after.

screen shot: https://imgur.com/YCNzqjO

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.



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[PX-Z]

Adding more info.

My last deal I did had the same LTC address so in spite of Heisenberg63 loosing his phone his wallet access should remain with him.

check my last deal with Heisenberg63 in Feb with LTC address same as he asked me to make payment on Friday and ghosted me after.

screen shot: https://imgur.com/YCNzqjO

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

Bingo! So, the "lost phone" is just an excuse. It's suspicious already that you @Heisenberg63 waited until someone made a thread about you and the incident, before informing the public or people who are you dealing with.
What more excuses are you gonna say @Heisenberg63? Your positive tags/review will turn to reds if you will not refund OP. So make your choice.

[acroman08]

@Heisenberg63 would you mind explaining why the scammer using your address to scam people? and if the OP sent the LTC to your address, would you mind sending it back?

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

do you have more screenshots of your previous dealings with him? if so, would you mind posting it too?

I wish and hope to get a resolution as I am in a very bad situation and I was not willing to do a deal for loosing money.

sadly if Heisenberg63 is really planning on scamming you, there is a high chance that you won't get your money back. he'd either abandon his account or ignore you.

[Eternad]

Adding more info.

My last deal I did had the same LTC address so in spite of Heisenberg63 loosing his phone his wallet access should remain with him.

check my last deal with Heisenberg63 in Feb with LTC address same as he asked me to make payment on Friday and ghosted me after.

screen shot: https://imgur.com/YCNzqjO

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

I will be surprised that he will use the excuse that scammer use his hack exchange account that login on his “lost phone” that doesn’t have any security pin, pattern or face identity security.

He should start changing all his account password including his telegram info since he does most of his transactions in the forum the moment he lost his phone. This seller that is too irresponsible to secure all his account after losing his phone is worthy not to be trusted on any future deals.

[LoyceV]

@Heisenberg63 would you mind explaining why the scammer using your address to scam people? and if the OP sent the LTC to your address, would you mind sending it back?

Heisenberg63's story doesn't add up. I'll follow this topic to see his response to this question. I'm very close to leaving a red warning tag.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I just got access to everything now man but not the telegram account, I figured out many guys have been scammed after I opened my accounts back.
Please do not send any money to that guy who is having my tg.

Your account security is your liability. If you fail to secure it and anyone get scammed, you need to take the responsibility because practically you can not prove that it was not you.

My suggestion is, take the responsibility and pay the debts unless you have somewhere something which says you will not do any business without a signed message like here I announced.

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Adding more info.

My last deal I did had the same LTC address so in spite of Heisenberg63 loosing his phone his wallet access should remain with him.

check my last deal with Heisenberg63 in Feb with LTC address same as he asked me to make payment on Friday and ghosted me after.

screen shot: https://imgur.com/YCNzqjO

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

Let's be clear, to make sure I understood everything correctly.
In February, you successfully made one trade, while in the other trade from March, you did not get what you paid for, and the seller used the same LTC address in both cases?

Heisenberg63's story doesn't add up. I'll follow this topic to see his response to this question. I'm very close to leaving a red warning tag.

I'm just going to leave a red tag because Heisenberg63 didn't show anything that would convince me that trading with him is not high risk. Even if what he claims is true, the way he runs his business is completely unprofessional.
Of course, if this case gets a positive epilogue, I will be happy to remove the red mark.

[sandy-is-fine]

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.