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I'm not usually one to start political threads like this, but I feel like this part of the board needs a little.... balance? Here's Fox News clips describing Trump's behavior and demeanor, pointing out how old, decrepit, bumbling, idiotic, senile, moronic, and utterly lost he is when presented with anything complicated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgjS_7eNoOgThis man is absolutely not fit to be president on the purely cognitive level. (And don't forget "person woman man camera TV"). Contrast this with Biden the other night manhandling MTG with an ad-libbed conversation on the floor of Congress in front of 100 million people. Biden is a lousy public speaker and always has been (he has a stutter for chrissakes), but he clearly has fully functional--and very sharp--mind when it comes to understanding the complex problems that face our country. (Also, for balance, here's a bunch of BOLD OVERSIZED TYPED and a giant wall of text)
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Even though I feel this thread is an obvious parody, I will reply to it seriously. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) See, people when talk about Biden's age, they do it because that is the easiest and most direct explanation to his mental lapses and perhaps some of the physical accidents he has unfortunately suffered during these years of his presidency. But media of the right political spectrum loves to ignore both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are pretty much in the same age range. (though, I will admit Trump looks younger because that fake hair he uses and the artificial tan). It is all just for the sake of political propaganda, really. Also, it is worth noticing that in these lastest speeches which Trump has had, he seems to be having problems with the pronunciation of certain words and, as if he having trouble to speak properly. It has been actually speculated how he may be the one starting to suffer from his own age. By the way, the fact Trump made fun of Biden's stutter lately in public was very distasteful and proper of a middle school boy, not a Republican nominee, let alone the President of the United States. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It is a medical condition, nobody has control over it.
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Both are horrible, I can't believe they are the only ones in the run in a country of 340 Million.
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To be fair, Trump has always been cognitively impaired AKA dumb as a bag of rocks, surrounding himself by people too afraid to tell him that. Not much to do with being old... perhaps it's getting a bit worse lately, hard to tell, I can't listen to him for more than 10 seconds.
It doesn't matter though. He can shit his pants on prime time TV and not lose any voters.
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(though, I will admit Trump looks younger because that fake hair he uses and the artificial tan)
I bet you by the election he will look twenty years older. How much stress can a person possibly handle? I think Nikki could have beaten Joe, but now we'll never know. :/
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(though, I will admit Trump looks younger because that fake hair he uses and the artificial tan)
I bet you by the election he will look twenty years older. How much stress can a person possibly handle? I think Nikki could have beaten Joe, but now we'll never know. :/ Before reading about politics in the United States, I would have assumed being rich in that country was a warranty of living a stress-less life, you know. But it seems that getting involved in politics there rapidly affects the person appearance negatively, at least that is the impression I have got from seeing how Obama looked by the end of his second term compared to the beginning of his first term. So, that aging has probably something to do with the nature of the job of the presidency of the United States. I sincerely think Nikki had a good chance against Biden and to become the first female president of the country, she was moderate enough and had the backing of the establishment, so the center right would have felt comfortable enough to vote for her, besides the usual Republicans who do not like how Trump manages things. Anyways, It is a pity the USA cannot have better leader than those two, it is such a beautiful country and full of opportunities.
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(though, I will admit Trump looks younger because that fake hair he uses and the artificial tan)
I bet you by the election he will look twenty years older. How much stress can a person possibly handle? I think Nikki could have beaten Joe, but now we'll never know. :/ Laughable though I am not a citizen either a fans of any but pray for good leader to emerge Trump is old may look more old if the stress of the election did not favour him, I stand to be corrected trump has more ideal way of handling some issue before it escalate to uncontrollable situation than the president leader.
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I sincerely think Nikki had a good chance against Biden and to become the first female president of the country, she was moderate enough and had the backing of the establishment, so the center right would have felt comfortable enough to vote for her, besides the usual Republicans who do not like how Trump manages things. Anyways, It is a pity the USA cannot have better leader than those two, it is such a beautiful country and full of opportunities.
Nikki Haley wouldn't win because most Republican voters these days aren't Republican voters, they are Trump voters. If Trump wasn't on the ballot, Trump would stay home.
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I don’t think Biden should be in the running this time, it’s clear he has cognitive failure, he’s an old man. Somebody needs to put a stop to it. Whoever is in the background pulling his strings needs to give it up. The US is the greatest country on earth, it’s embarrassing having him lead it. How can he be expected to do four more years, let somebody else run for The Dems.
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I don’t think Biden should be in the running this time, it’s clear he has cognitive failure, he’s an old man. Somebody needs to put a stop to it. Whoever is in the background pulling his strings needs to give it up. The US is the greatest country on earth, it’s embarrassing having him lead it. How can he be expected to do four more years, let somebody else run for The Dems.
You should watch the State of the Union address then, because that clearly shows he is not "senile" or anything close to it. Or watch any other recent public speech of Biden's. Or look at his actions and what he has accomplished, which is more than any president has in decades. Or listen to some other commentators besides the ones working for his opposition party--who will say things like that no matter who the Democrats put up there. Biden has always been a lousy public speaker--even when he was young. He has a stutter. He's not a slick politician. But he's fully in command of his senses and he's been an outstanding president.
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Does it really matter? Whoever is running, the Eton/Oxford elite always win to control Washington, Westminster and the EU.
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Does it really matter? Whoever is running, the Eton/Oxford elite always win to control Washington, Westminster and the EU.
So why exactly did the "Eton/Oxford elite" choose Trump in 2016? Why did they choose Biden in 2020? Why did they attack the US Capitol? Why were they supporting Ukraine for a while, and have now paused that support? Why did they overturn Row v. Wade? I love the idea of imagining the world is controlled by a few mysterious men in a secret room somewhere, because that's really easy to understand. But in my experience the real world is a lot more complicated than that...
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I don’t think Biden should be in the running this time, it’s clear he has cognitive failure, he’s an old man. Somebody needs to put a stop to it. Whoever is in the background pulling his strings needs to give it up. The US is the greatest country on earth, it’s embarrassing having him lead it. How can he be expected to do four more years, let somebody else run for The Dems.
You should watch the State of the Union address then, because that clearly shows he is not "senile" or anything close to it. Or watch any other recent public speech of Biden's. Or look at his actions and what he has accomplished, which is more than any president has in decades. Or listen to some other commentators besides the ones working for his opposition party--who will say things like that no matter who the Democrats put up there. Biden has always been a lousy public speaker--even when he was young. He has a stutter. He's not a slick politician. But he's fully in command of his senses and he's been an outstanding president. I was truly amazed at how clear and focused Biden was in his S of the U address. In light of his massive numbers of failures at other times... failures, btw, that show that he truly is mentally impaired rather than just a lousy speaker... there are only a few possibilities regarding this speech, or Biden: 1. A really good double did this speech. After all, the Deep State has easily had a sufficient amount of time to find, groom, and train a realistic double. They could have started way back while Trump was in his first term. 2. Biden is not "senile or anything close to it," as legiteum says. Rather, Biden has been a really good actor all along, feigning senility, probably as protection in the event that the stolen election was found out. He could claim something like insanity if he ever went to court. The reason he kept it up after things leveled off so that he wouldn't be accused was, he had to keep up the game he started. But there is always the chance he will be found out in this regard. 3. There are drugs and nutrients that can make a mentally imbalanced person act and look almost normal for a short period of time. The thing we need to watch for is how much he reverts in the future. Such drugs and nutrients can burn a person out if not administered carefully. They might even kill him in a short period of time. There could easily be other explanations. But Biden was truly outside of what we have seen as his normal state, for his S of the U message. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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"The oranges of the investigation" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) To be honest, they both suck. They both have their flaws and they both have stupid policies. For instance, I wouldn't vote for Trump because of his attitude towards the war in Ukraine and NATO. IMO the US should help Ukraine and the world should clearly cut any ties with Russia because of the war crimes it is committing, but Trump thinks he can save some money by not fighting the biggest bully in the room and allow it to roam free and spew lies. As for the NATO, I feel like it should break any treaties it has with Russia. Not attack it first, but draw a clear line as to what will be allowed and what will not be. A good example is what Russia is doing with its air force. It constantly flies military aircraft into the NATO air space to spy and make threats. NATO should warn Russia that next time military aircraft with transponders turned off enter NATO air space they will be shot down. I wouldn't also choose Biden because he supports the creation of CBDC and is anti-crypto. If he had free reign he'd ban gun ownership and many other things. Why would I vote for someone who wants to limit my basic rights?
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I wouldn't also choose Biden because he supports the creation of CBDC and is anti-crypto. If he had free reign he'd ban gun ownership and many other things. Why would I vote for someone who wants to limit my basic rights?
There is no evidence Biden is "anti-crypto", and Bitcoin has quadrupled under his tenure. Biden doesn't have "free reign" and unlike Trump he does not seek to be a dictator. Our choices, as Americans, is either Trump or Biden. I'm not wild about Biden either, but he'll be fine and the alternative won't be.
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There is no evidence Biden is "anti-crypto", and Bitcoin has quadrupled under his tenure.
Not true, there's plenty. Biden called cryptocurrency investors "wealthy tax cheats and crypto traders" during G7 forum in Japan. Biden made a similar swipe against Republicans earlier in May, with his Twitter account suggesting that while Democrats want to plug crypto tax loopholes worth $18 billion, Republicans want to cut a near-equivalent $15 billion in food safety inspection funding.https://www.dlnews.com/articles/regulation/tornado-cash-attacked-as-biden-attacks-crypto-traders/He also opposes bitcoin mining. On Thursday, February 22, Bitcoin miner Riot Platforms, along with industry groups Texas Blockchain Council (TBC) and the Chamber of Digital Commerce, initiated legal action against key agencies of the Biden-Harris Administration. The lawsuit targets the US Department of Energy (DOE), the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), challenging the administration’s recent steps to gather detailed energy consumption data from the cryptocurrency mining sector.https://cryptodaily.co.uk/news-in-crypto/bitcoinist:us-bitcoin-miners-sue-biden-administrationHe's also for CBDC and ideally wants all bitcoiners to report their holdings and transactions. He wants full surveillance of assets, he's anti privacy and anti freedom. His administration was behind the environmental attack on bitcoin. The Biden administration in September 2022 released a comprehensive report from the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, “Climate and Energy Implications of Crypto Assets in the United States.” This was the first salvo from the White House raising concerns over bitcoin mining’s harmful impacts on the environment.https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/2024/02/ewg-applauds-bidens-plan-shine-spotlight-climate-pollution This was an attack, nothing more because it was later disproved that bitcoin is bad for the environment. Bitcoin miners don't produce any CO2 and do not pollute the environment. They help to stabilize the power grid and often use electricity that would otherwise be wasted. I can find more examples, but I feel like this is more than enough to prove a point. As for the argument that it quadrupled, it went up over 20x under Trump in 2017-18. If that's an important factor, we have a clear winner.
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There is no evidence Biden is "anti-crypto", and Bitcoin has quadrupled under his tenure.
Not true, there's plenty. Biden called cryptocurrency investors "wealthy tax cheats and crypto traders" during G7 forum in Japan. That is not true. You are taking that quote out of context. He said he didn't think "wealthy tax cheats and [wealthy] crypto traders" should be given tax breaks at the expense of the poor. That's not even close to being "anti-crypto". Yes, he wants to, again, tax crypto earnings in the same all other investments are taxes. Maybe you call not getting a special privilege from the government, "anti-crypto", but for me he's just making sure everybody pays the same rate of taxes. He also opposes bitcoin mining. On Thursday, February 22, Bitcoin miner Riot Platforms, along with industry groups Texas Blockchain Council (TBC) and the Chamber of Digital Commerce, initiated legal action against key agencies of the Biden-Harris Administration. The lawsuit targets the US Department of Energy (DOE), the US Energy Information Administration (EIA), and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), challenging the administration’s recent steps to gather detailed energy consumption data from the cryptocurrency mining sector.https://cryptodaily.co.uk/news-in-crypto/bitcoinist:us-bitcoin-miners-sue-biden-administrationAgain, if he opposed crypto mining, why especially would the propose a tax on crypto mining? That's nonsensical. Different kinds of customers have paid different rates for energy since they started selling it. That's nothing new. He's also for CBDC [...]
Why is being in favor of a US CBDC... anti-crypto? If anything, this would be a strongly pro crypto move since it will introduce millions of Americans to the idea of digital currency. (To say nothing of simply getting our country off of outdated paper and metal currency). and ideally wants all bitcoiners to report their holdings and transactions. He wants full surveillance of assets, he's anti privacy and anti freedom.
Yes, the government wants to collect the taxes based on what people earn. Again, that's nothing new. If you don't think we should all pay any taxes, well, that's a completely different subject--and you'd hardly start with cryptocurrency in particular since most taxes are paid in all kind of other ways. His administration was behind the environmental attack on bitcoin.
His administration pointed out that a particular industrial sector leads to greenhouse emissions. Good. But that's not the same as being against said industrial sector. As for the argument that it quadrupled, it went up over 20x under Trump in 2017-18. If that's an important factor, we have a clear winner.
Sure, from nearly zero before. That's very different than it surpassing one trillion in market cap. And you know how Biden could have helped that happen? By providing a safer marketplace for mainstream investors. Bitcoin didn't break one trillion because a bunch of hackers thought it was cool, it did so because millions of Americans can buy it using a broker they know they can trust. (And oh yeah, the supposedly "anti-crypto" Biden oversaw the approval of the ETF... why exactly?). If you want to tank the Bitcoin price, elect a government that... crazy and says crazy things about Bitcoin and other cryptos, e.g. that TrumpCoin is way better. Markets function best amid stability and regulation that creates a safe environment for investors.
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~ Yes, he wants to, again, tax crypto earnings in the same all other investments are taxes. Maybe you call not getting a special privilege from the government, "anti-crypto", but for me he's just making sure everybody pays the same rate of taxes. But there is a difference between crypto and almost all other investments that is inherent in crypto, readily seen in crypto, can exist in almost all investments, but is not readily seen in other investments. The foundation for it is the most basic of all laws in America.. privacy laws. Crypto by its nature in using addresses and hashes is private. The world can see crypto transfer amounts, but nobody can crack your wallet unless you handle it foolishly. Also, without a note in the memo section of the transaction, the purpose of the transfer is private. If you transact crypto through an exchange that is licensed, you are voluntarily coming out of the privacy laws into the public domain because of the licensing. Just as all investments controlled by the SEC are public, what you privately do with your investment paper is not public, even though you obtained it publicly. But investment paper doesn't have privacy built in with public/private addresses and hashes like crypto does. What this all means is that crypto can't fall under the same guidelines as other investments. The privacy is built right into it. Since government is there to regulate public, not the private, they need to be careful that they don't overstep their boundaries. To see that this is true, check into Private Member Associations, which, if set up properly, base their operations on over 70 SCOTUS rulings over the decades, that deny government the ability to regulate private operations. ~
Most taxation on privately done 'income' is prohibited by the constitution... especially IRS taxes. Conversely, contracting with government is allowed just like it is with other people. What the IRS does is to use clever wording in their laws and regulations to make it look like people are required to pay taxes. Then they use clever wording in their forms that make it look like the person who signed up to NOT pay, was tricked into signing up TO pay. If a person doesn't know how to use straight forward statements to cancel the accidental, contract he made with the IRS, the IRS can only use what their paperwork says, and the person loses in court. After all, the IRS can only go by what the paperwork says. They can't interpret the person's understanding of the paperwork... until the person clarifies it the right way. And people don't generally clarify what they don't know about. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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But there is a difference between crypto and almost all other investments that is inherent in crypto [...]
No, there's not. Investment income is investment income. The technical means by which you invest is not relevant. Most taxation on privately done 'income' is prohibited by the constitution... especially IRS taxes. [...]
Uh... sure. You don't want to pay taxes. Neither do I. But it's something we all have to do. And guess what, Trump supporters: Trump isn't going to repeal all taxes either. Nobody is, because the US would go instantly bankrupt if they even tried.
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