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March 14, 2024, 03:55:41 PM
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Funded trading according to my findings is also known as funded accounts. It a trading strategy which offer traders without funds, the chance to start a trading career without making any use of their funds. Instead, a third-party entity, typically a proprietary trading firm or company provides the capital (typically ranging from $27,000 to $160,000) for investing in financial derivatives or various financial markets of which can include stocks, currencies, commodities, crypto-assets, and other financial instruments.


Funded traders are sure to get to keep a larger percentage of the profits they make with the funded accounts, since the traders are the ones doing the trading.
Also, there is a monthly subscription fee of $150 to $25000 for the traders and it is important to compare the fees and the benefits the funding company offers before joining one as well as knowing the evaluation process, the ratio profit split, educational resources available, other risk parameters, and if there's good support and mentorship before making your decision to join.

 Although the amount varies with each proprietary firm. The Funded Trader's split/share might be up to 90/10, 70/30 or 80/20 split, of which the trader gets the largest share.
In some instances there could be prop firms that can afford Funded Trading with zero commissions for traders, with a 100% profit split, with a 7-day payout, with no time limits, but I have yet to see or take note of any of such.


* Is Funded Trading best option for traders without funds to trade but with the trading knowledge?

* Is Funded Trading advised for newbie traders looking for how to learn and actively trade on the go?

* What are some good funded proprietary trading firms you know?

Your thoughts are welcomed!

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March 14, 2024, 04:17:38 PM
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There is nothing too bad about funded trade just that it is not free as you would think, you need to be enroll to learn under them and as they say buy their course for a large amount of money. I think if that’s the case k will rather use that money to trade by myself and allow it to grow. This way I wouldn’t be paying any percentage to any broker. If you need to practice then use a demo account to practice that’s way better to me. More so using your personal fund helps to build you psychologically better than using a borrowed fund to trade

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March 14, 2024, 06:29:59 PM
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* Is Funded Trading best option for traders without funds to trade but with the trading knowledge?
If you're sure of your skills as a trader,  a funded account can be a good way to make money, if you do not have your own money to trade. But do not hurry to try to get a funded account to trade on when you know that you have not yet matured in trading to some reasonable extent. This is where newbies come in and why they should make sure to not just rush their learning process, so that they can have enough expertise to handle a funded account when the opportunity presents itself.

 
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March 14, 2024, 08:06:10 PM
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Funded trading is like borrowing money that will bears a lot of risk, so if you are planning to trade and don’t have the fund yet to start, better not to push it and just wait for the right moment for you to start your trading journey. If you are still learning better to focus more on this and in trading, you don’t need big capital here to start with, I just don’t like the idea of funded trading because for sure there’s a big fees for this.

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March 14, 2024, 08:26:41 PM
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* Is Funded Trading best option for traders without funds to trade but with the trading knowledge?

* Is Funded Trading advised for newbie traders looking for how to learn and actively trade on the go?

* What are some good funded proprietary trading firms you know?

Your thoughts are welcomed!

I think being a funded trader is not an easy thing, they are great people who have deep knowledge and experience in trading. I think this is a different class from the average trader and only a few people can achieve it

I think it is actually not a good option, if someone has good experience and knowledge then he can double his money so that he has funds to trade. Additionally, it is more convenient if you trade using your own money. Profit or loss is not a burden because it is our own money and not other people's money so there is no pressure in trading and we can do whatever we want.

Of course it's not for beginner traders, only expert traders can do it and I don't know of any companies that fund trader


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March 14, 2024, 10:50:57 PM
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Funded traders are sure to get to keep a larger percentage of the profits they make with the funded accounts, since the traders are the ones doing the trading.
Also, there is a monthly subscription fee of $150 to $25000 for the traders and it is important to compare the fees and the benefits the funding company offers before joining one as well as knowing the evaluation process, the ratio profit split, educational resources available, other risk parameters, and if there's good support and mentorship before making your decision to join.

* Is Funded Trading best option for traders without funds to trade but with the trading knowledge?

* Is Funded Trading advised for newbie traders looking for how to learn and actively trade on the go?

* What are some good funded proprietary trading firms you know?

Your thoughts are welcomed!


Although this aspect of trading may be helpful, it comes with different terms and policies depending on the funding company the trader is dealing with. If I am a trader,there are some terms I may not find so comfortable and welcoming by those funding companies, so it'd just be better to work things out and just raise some little funds to start trading. At least the minimum amount required to start trading is $10 or less, so it would not be too difficult for an experienced trader to find a job, at least work for some months, and be able to raise up to $100 within that interval of 1–2 months, depending on the country and their minimum wage. 

I feel it's better to trade with your personal money and know that your risks, losses, and other challenges are what you have to bear by yourself and not be faced with the policies of other companies that helped fund you. 

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March 15, 2024, 08:04:26 AM
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what are there other ways if we are adept in trading but don't have sufficient capital anyway, I guess to be able to get approved for funded trading it requires some kind of trading portfolio or history just to give a glimpse at how our abilities to trade. so I guess only very few select people are entrusted with the money anyway in my opinion.

but I can see that the share of profit is fair enough trader indeed the one doing the trades here, i wonder what implication if the trades showing a really bad result what would be the backlash.
as far as I know in crypto world when it come to loaned money like this they like to limit to what the funds can be used for.
take example flash loan and other platforms also limit the use of funds.

but personally I can't take the burden of always being judged at every trading move and the fact that if we got some red on our trades we might be subject to review. nobody know what the trades will be imho.

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March 15, 2024, 11:13:20 AM
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I'll not recommend you to go for funded trading because this involves a lot of risk and you can end up in a very pathetic condition. Look it's not free what you've mentioned they'll ask you to buy their learning courses then you will learn under their teams and only if you qualify then they'll give you the funds. The course itself will have a good amount of fee and why you would give that fee to someone who is not sure whether they'll take you or not.

Take that amount and wait for some more time if you're not ok with what you have right now. But only trade with your money. Get some free courses to learn crypto and do it all on yourself. It'll be the best learning journey for you. If you'll rely on investments then it'll take very long to go up to the mark where you would have been thinking of crypto trading.

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March 15, 2024, 11:17:52 AM
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That's just another name for "borrowing money". No it is not the best option because if you lose it the loaners will come to bite your azz. Trading with leverage is the same thing. You should never ever trade the money you don't own. It always ends badly. If these "pro traders" were really that good, they wouldn't need these tricks to make money.  If you want to be a trader only trade your own money and only do spot trading. Don't borrow, don't do leverage unless you want to get even poorer.

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March 16, 2024, 05:16:16 PM
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For newbies, focus more on the knowledge because if you are funded you will still end up blowing up the account until you know how best to handle such if not funding is more like wasting the funds because you don't know what to do to grow such fund and make profit off it. As a newbie it's best to try your hands with a demon account if you want to experience the market already otherwise get knowledge first, read materials watch videos , learn firm others and very imprtanly get a mentor as it makes the journey faster for you a d you don't get to make the mistakes others did made.

A mentor helps you skip the mistakes because they have been there before you and they know better but it still doesn't put out the places of some personal experience you would have to get yourself in other to be better at what you are doing. Funded trading make more sense when you have got the knowledge, gotten a working strategy and know what to do and how well to apply them and become as profitable as possible so you don't get to loose funds.

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* Is Funded Trading best option for traders without funds to trade but with the trading knowledge?

* Is Funded Trading advised for newbie traders looking for how to learn and actively trade on the go?

These are two mutually exclusive concepts. If a trader has trading knowledge, then he must have his own deposit. If, having trading knowledge, he could not earn a profit for himself, then there is no guarantee that he will be able to earn a profit using other people's funds. As for beginners, it should be understood that they can learn solely on their own money.

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March 17, 2024, 09:16:43 AM
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That's just another name for "borrowing money". No it is not the best option because if you lose it the loaners will come to bite your azz. Trading with leverage is the same thing. You should never ever trade the money you don't own. It always ends badly. If these "pro traders" were really that good, they wouldn't need these tricks to make money.  If you want to be a trader only trade your own money and only do spot trading. Don't borrow, don't do leverage unless you want to get even poorer.
The funded proprietary company offers tutoring for newbies in many cases. It's not only that one must borrow to trade with, but am concerned about the registration fees that may be too much for someone without funds to start with.
Perhaps trying out other forms of trading will be a better option for newbies without much money, like arbitrage trading, wherein a trader buys low priced coins or asset from a different source/region and resells to make profit. 

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Funded trading is not bad.  But before doing funded trading you must be proficient in trading.  Moreover, trading in funds does not mean trading for free.  You have to buy courses from them at high prices and trade accordingly.  I would say you deposit the price you buy the course with and learn well before trading then invest money in trading with your own money.  Because to do funded trading you need to have adequate knowledge about trading.  If you are new then funded trading is not for you.  If you are new then only funded trading why no trading is for you.  Because trading without experience and skill, losses are inevitable no matter which way you trade.

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March 18, 2024, 01:42:19 PM
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Trade with your money, invest with your money.

If you don't have fund to trade, how do people can believe you will get profit from trading?

If you got profit with your trading in the past, so now why you are broken and have no money left for trading. It is not logic.

I am against the Funded trading idea because it has more pressure on a trader too. It's is not a dream a trader want but actually pressure leads to nightmare.

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Depends on the contract you are entering since there are people became so harsh and will destroy your reputation once their expectation didn't meet. So try to ask some condition of those people who want to fund your trades so that everything is clear on both side and make them understand that market is unpredictable and chances to lose  is there so no further trouble happen.

But if they are doubting in this kind of offer then maybe they should avoid taking this options since we are just wasting our potential profit and time for pleasing those people also for them no bad words to say especially if we are really active on those trades we made. But in my case I don't want for someone to fund me since I don't like any pressure and would just rather to trade for myself so I can make sure that all things I do has been done due to my decisions drop.

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when you fund your crypto that's when trading begin, you could not buy or sell without funding your wallet. when you fund it is then you can navigate to  any coin you want to buy, you can have knowledge of trading but no funds.your knowledge become useless because nothing to start with.
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Trade with your money, invest with your money.

If you don't have fund to trade, how do people can believe you will get profit from trading?

If you got profit with your trading in the past, so now why you are broken and have no money left for trading. It is not logic.

I am against the Funded trading idea because it has more pressure on a trader too. It's is not a dream a trader want but actually pressure leads to nightmare.
One of the things that boggles up my mind on why there are those people who do make out some funding out with other people or traders? What are their criterias and what are their considerations
on which how they would really be trusting up a certain individual for be the ones who would really be trading up for them. Just like on what you had mentioned that if these traders
were really that profitable then they wont really be having those kind of busted up trading accounts. How stats would really be checked out whether its real or not?
If there would really be some criteria then for sure it wont be something that would be easy.. Maybe demotrades?

If you are someone whose really that good at trading but having no enough capital then you might be testing out if ever there would really be some searches for funding trades.
Its hard of course and its not something that you could assume out.
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March 19, 2024, 03:27:34 PM
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it seems that funded trading is something sweet and can give traders the opportunity to start a career as a professional trader, even without capital. however, the reality is that to be able to enroll in this program traders need to go through various strict selection and monitoring processes by the investment firm where they register. and not only that, traders also cannot trade according to their own strategy, there are times when investment firms will interrupt trading and provide appropriate guidance.

so indirectly, funded trading is the same as an employee working for someone else. it can't really be said to be a "trader" in its true connotation, because all the trader's activities and decisions are largely influenced by the investment firm.

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I don't know how these crypto prop firms are but when I joined one about 15 years ago, almost none of the traders there knew what they were doing.

None of them ever made a profit, they all hit their daily loss limit of $100 or $500 or so and basically were out of the market. And even if you made money, most of the profits stayed with the firm or you had to pay the NASDAQ/NYSE quote level 2 data fees.

Most likely less than 1% of all traders made money in these companies in the long run.
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March 19, 2024, 04:18:38 PM
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Funded trading is good for traders who feels that they can test their trading strategy and ability to trade with a huge fund with some certain conditions which must not be breached by the traders, I think this had helped a lot of traders to earn some decent money with reference to forex trading on Twitter and discord of funded traders firms there a lot of funded traders withdrawal certificates posted, however there are equally lot of traders who had equally breached those rules and consequently lost their bought account infact some of the traders had passed phase 1 and phase 2 got funded already yet breached their rules and lost those accounts, personally I also bought few of those accounts too unfortunately breached the rules now planning to buy another one after going back to test and practice my trading strategy.

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