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March 16, 2024, 05:52:51 AM
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So what's the point?

It's make sense and normal someone will choose to reduce their activity or even become silent after not in a campaign. Take a look with cheaters, once they received a negative feedback, they will abandon their accounts.

A counter question: Why people must be always active in the forum? is there a rule that every users must meet their previous standard (number of post, board, discussion, length of the post)?  Huh

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March 16, 2024, 06:18:41 AM
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I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that, I don't want to call names of people who has reduce their activity in the forum based their not in campaign...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.

You might be right to some extent but that's not always the case. The forum was in existence before the introduction of campaigns and there were many active users and I believe it will continue like that even when there are no campaigns. There's life outside forum and you can not expect people to be always active here regardless of whether they are in campaign or not. There are users not in campaign but always active in the forum and likewise, we have users who are part of a campaign but not frequently active. It just depends on how convenient and less busy you are with your time.

Moreover, if joining a campaign is the reason why you are here but choose to be inactive because you are yet to get into any, you are technically reducing your chances because every campaign requires active posters. As you said, it's good to observe but not unnecessary observations. This particular observation is baseless and doesn't add anything positive to the forum. Being active or inactive here is a personal choice just like in other social medias.

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March 16, 2024, 06:30:05 AM
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I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that,
We are on an anonymous online forum, there is no way to determine for sure why a member became inactive, cause not everyone would give an explanation on what's going on with them in real life. There is still a number of campaigns popping up on the forum and anyone whose sole purpose is earning would be applying around to try and get into one.

...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.
This is accurate. Money is a huge driving factor for what people do. You can see with the attention that altcointalks got in a couple of weeks that people follow where the money is and this is not a flaw.
If signature campaign stops, there would be a very significant drop in the forum traffic and discussions.

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March 16, 2024, 06:45:53 AM
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I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that, I don't want to call names of people who has reduce their activity in the forum based their not in campaign...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.

This is one of the reason for some but not really true on most of the user that becomes inactive. Most of the time they have personal matters that need to deal offline and some encounters some medical condition that forbids them to use mobile or any form of gadgets.

I personally on the brink of being inactive since my company is experiencing a heavy workload that requires us to do extra work to finish the job on time. I’m still glad that I still manage to sneak a forum visit on my busy schedule but I will surely take a break regardless if I still have campaign when I really need it since I gain more from my job than here in the forum.

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March 16, 2024, 06:50:30 AM
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Hahaha...Your observation is right, my friend and one thing I would like you to know is that many accounts here are alt accounts. So it would even be easier for the users to abandon them when they are without campaigns even as they force themselves to continue to make active their main account. I've also said it many times on the forum, it's irrespective of whether the accounts are the main or alts of the users, most users here are in for the money, case closed!

They may fake it and claim they are ardent fans of Bitcoin and Bitcointalk, but that is a lie. You can start noticing when M!xers was banned here, what happened? They were so desperate to look for alternatives. This means that the huge money that would be missed by the ban was bitting. Now, imagine if the forum has no campaign, no one is sponsoring the activity, and you may see over 99% of members turning their backs on the forum.

But of course, about 40% would be coming once in a while to read the latest happening even as they may not pend down a single word that can help the forum grow.

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March 16, 2024, 07:28:14 AM
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I don't like posts that lay emphasis on signature campaign as the reason for the forum being active.  I don't think the presence of signature campaigns is detrimental to anyone in the forum.
It’s worth noting that boards where signature is disabled such as Serious discussion and Ivory Tower also have traction as much as other boards on the forum. Signature campaigns play a significant role in generating traffic on the forum and I also don’t support the notion that campaigns are detrimental to the forum.
Not at all. Sometimes when some users run out of what to discuss, you see them bringing up controversial issues to be discussed. From the body signal, nothing will happen to signature campaign in this forum, as long as the forum exists, it will likely exist along with signature campaigns.

I don't like posts that lay emphasis on signature campaign as the reason for the forum being active.  I don't think the presence of signature campaigns is detrimental to anyone in the forum.
I think the scarcity of signature campaign can be a motivation for forum members to improve post quality and get merits so they stand a better chance of getting accepted into good campaigns when the opportunity comes.
In the other hand, it could be a demoralization that since there's no available campaign to hire me, why struggle to make quality posts. You never can tall how people approach matters.

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March 16, 2024, 10:36:20 AM
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One can be inactive for no reason at all, its their personal choice.

I was out of a campaign for more than 2months last year end and I was regularly active in my Local board and on the global boards, so campaigns being the reason is out of the question. Fellow local board members like @pakhitheboss can confirm this.

Genuine users will be active as long as things are working out for them.

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March 16, 2024, 11:35:08 AM
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One can be inactive for no reason at all, its their personal choice.

I was out of a campaign for more than 2months last year end and I was regularly active in my Local board and on the global boards, so campaigns being the reason is out of the question. Fellow local board members like @pakhitheboss can confirm this.

Genuine users will be active as long as things are working out for them.

And if you didn't post much in these 2 months it wouldn't necessarily be a bad sign either: people on campaigns have to post regularly, but we are all human (except a few AIs lately) and we have peaks of motivation sometimes, but also the contrary. Not that posting here is like any job, but having a little break from time to time should be viewed as something positive or at least normal. And if it coincides with the time you don't have signature, better IMO.

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March 16, 2024, 01:46:02 PM
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I think I would see myself going inactive for several reasons, it it not only about the amount of campaigns currently available in the forum. In my personal life there are so many things going on which could easily make me become inactive for weeks before being able to post again and share my thoughts about Bitcoin and the state of the market.
I don't have any doubt the presence of signatures campaigns plays a role in the activity and the increase of post in general think this community, but keeping that fact aside, there is still people how take their time to give and share good stuff with us all here.

Also, because of the current state of the market I think it is likelt we start to see an increase of activity here in the forum without having to depend on the offer of signature campaigns, it will be just a matter of people feeling more enthusiastic on the price chances and the future ahead for Bitcoin and several Alternative currencies, in my opinion.

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March 16, 2024, 02:31:38 PM
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I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that, I don't want to call names of people who has reduce their activity in the forum based their not in campaign...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.
Of course, signature campaigns allow to fuel the forum with additional activity by encouraging users to reach their weekly post limits. Even if all signature campaigns are removed, there will still be some users on the forum who will continue to communicate here. Even now there are members who, despite their lack of signature, are more active than participants in signature campaigns. So, I believe that the main "driving" factor on the forum is not paid signature campaigns, but the BTC-community itself, which "lives" thanks to the most active users for whom this forum is an integral part of their lives.

The reason that some active forum members have gone temporarily or permanently silent may be due to factors occurring outside the forum rather than due to a decrease in the number of signature campaigns. This could be illness and death, a change in interests and hobbies, a lack of free time, or whatever the hell you want, because there is also “life” outside the forum.

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March 16, 2024, 02:51:04 PM
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People who have to get paid to post (usually spammy nonsense, or even AI-generated posts) remind me of gamers who are willing to play (usually boring/crappy) video games to boost their KDR/trophies/achievements.

They're not doing it for fun, they're doing for profit.

What's the difference compared to prostitutes who are willing to fuck old, smelly guys for money (usually fake fiat currency)? Huh

People should do things because they like it first and foremost. Just like Satoshi invented Bitcoin for the fun of it, not to gain money.

If monetary profit comes later on, that's OK, but it should not be the primary focus!

I would say the same thing about people who get degrees not because they love knowledge, but because they love well-paying jobs.

The hypocrisy of humanity in general is astounding, if you ask me.
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March 16, 2024, 03:02:39 PM
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Well, let's just say that many of us are actually out doing ourselves, outdoing ourselves in the sense that, the campaign we are promoting has rules that must be obeyed in order for the participant or user to get paid by the end of the week, and one of such rules states a number of posts a user must make to qualify for payment, and every user try as much as possible to keep to this rule, that is, even if it means inconveniencing themselves, getting rid of some of their daily activities in order to have time to post on the forum, this is what makes it look like some users are most active when they are in signature campaign, it's not that they are more active, they are just keeping to the rules of the campaign they are promoting.

So, in other words, if we really want to see how naturally active a user is, just check how active they are when they are not promoting any service on the forum through their signature ad or other vices.
Because for a user who is promoting a service though his signature ad, even if that user doesn't have time to be active, the rules of the campaign will force him or her to be active, else he or she won't get paid, and may be removed after 2 weeks of inactivity.

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March 16, 2024, 03:04:11 PM
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a lot of the members that carried no signature have left the forum because of the spam wave that some signatures have brought
Or just because they aren't paid. If bitcointalk was just another regular forum, then I might be visiting once in a while, and I'd definitely ask my Bitcoin questions whenever I needed it, but it's just not economically viable to be that active. The only active users who aren't paid to post are probably retired OG Bitcoiners.

I was more thinking of guys who quit before 2013, when campaigns were just at the beginning, a lot of users felt like this was inviting spam, some think that even now, and although they still are around they harbor a few bad feelings against this, and I do understand some, it's a bit frustrating when suddenly from a simple discussion where everybody was posting just for fun there were 100 outsiders making quotas. A lot of the users there already experienced one hell of a bull run, with gains in terms of % that will never be replicated so for some it made no sense even at that point to wear one.
I have participated in a lot of forums during the last 21 years (even when some members here didn't exist exist as single-cell organisms).

There was one forum (which no longer exists) where I had a 5-digit post count... I never got any profit, despite the fact my recommendations helped a company to generate more profit. Ingratitude? Maybe.

My point is, it would be acceptable to reward someone who has already participated enough for the fun of it.

But it's not OK to reward someone who wasn't a regular poster to begin with, but became after the monetary incentive appeared. It's not that hard to implement a fair, non-spammy incentive.
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It's nice to observe anywhere you are, this forum is mega forum base on It's capacity of containment of members, and secondly i want to make this my article brief for we to understand.

I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that, I don't want to call names of people who has reduce their activity in the forum based their not in campaign...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.


Your observation is right as many people post way less when they are not in the campaign, but this does not mean that everyone does that. There are people whom posts quantity remains the same no matter whether they are in the signature campaign or not.
Also, signature campaigns want you to post at least 15, 20 or 25 posts and therefore sometimes people post a bit more than they would normally do if there were in campaigns.

By the way, anyone who wants to be selected in the campaigns, he or she needs to be active throughout as the campaign managers will look at the post history and if there is a gap in the posts or anyone is inactive, he or she may never be selected in any campaign.
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The forum is probably better-off without people who are here only for signature campaign earnings, in my opinion.

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i sincerely don't know why i keep coming back to read the threads of the day, as a newbie i thought my ranking would increase by being active f for several hours.

However, i am enjoying my time here and hope to be active here
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March 16, 2024, 09:19:09 PM
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Have you checked the wall observer to see people that are active over there?
Well here is not a place that forces people to remain online or a must do thing for one to remain active, this forum is above 3.9 million user if I am not mistakenly so do you expect over million of people to remain online if I may ask you sir?
This is not possible for them to remain online at least there are people who have personal business or side hustle after they finishes over there they may decides to come here to pass time maybe whenever they wanna sleep the goes off, and when they want to track about bitcoin recent update they will come here to read things and if gotten what they want they can decides to go offline. While those who are active can decides to engage themselves into a sig campaign to also utilized their time spending over here, so I don't think there is anything wrong with people not being active.
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As long as the forum's traffic increased alot since the introduction of signature campaigns, it'll also reduce should there be a sanction or displacement of signatures... It's called -- The principle of displacement; that the ......amount is equal to the volume.....

That alone proves the fact that alot of people are more active in here for that reason...but sometimes, -- they may not totally rely on campaigns but, it's becoming a major part of y'all hodl bag... secondly, spammers and shit posters barely have a slot to occupy in good signature campaigns, so the deal isn't for some ludicrous head.

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March 16, 2024, 11:58:51 PM
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It's nice to observe anywhere you are, this forum is mega forum base on It's capacity of containment of members, and secondly i want to make this my article brief for we to understand.

I observed that the reason why some active members became inactive in the forum is as result of lacks of campaigns, I don't know if anyone have noticed that, I don't want to call names of people who has reduce their activity in the forum based their not in campaign...it means that many users will silent forum if signature campaign is not on forum, these is my little observations.
There are other reasons to be inactive on the forum, which invlude what you have mentioned but not the main reason. In reality, not everyone cannot be in a campaign. Health, family, career. and just taking a break is enough reason to be inactive.

Even the signature campaign is not as exciting for some people as it is for others.

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You should not take the forum as an obligation to go to work. If someone has the idea that the forum is a duty, then there is something wrong with him. We are so overwhelmed by digitalization everywhere that we rarely have time to communicate with real friends offline. Therefore, if you see that a person’s activity has decreased, think that he has a more interesting life off the Internet.

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