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Fundora  By KO
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March 31, 2024, 11:45:40 AM
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Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

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March 31, 2024, 12:23:22 PM
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Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.

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No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.

While watching the fight I thought the fight would be stopped anytime because of the cut from any one of the two, I was worried about Tim because the blood was uncontrollable, if not for that cut Tim could have won the fight he was restricted with his movement.
Fundora shows heart and determination also, like all the others' opinions, I like to see both fighters doing a rematch, I'm sure they will have it based on this article

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Amid some confusion over whether there was a rematch clause, Tszyu’s promoter, George Rose of No Limit Boxing, confirmed his fighter had the option to run it back against the 6’6” southpaw.
“He [Fundora’s promoter Sampson Lewkowicz] knows there’s a rematch clause there,” Rose told reporters.
“If we want to take it, we’ll take it. I’d love to see Tim take that and win them belts straight back.
“I’m happy for a rematch to happen next and good luck trying to get out of it.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8

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No one voted for Fundora  to win. It was probably the blodiest fight of the year, that was brutal as both fighters came to fight. Not much of a defense, it's pure offense that was displayed but the bigger guy gut the edge and had became a champion. I was wondering what was the odds for Fundora  to win via decision, I'm sure it was a juicy one but no one believe in him so probably no one here won a bet.

While watching the fight I thought the fight would be stopped anytime because of the cut from any one of the two, I was worried about Tim because the blood was uncontrollable, if not for that cut Tim could have won the fight he was restricted with his movement.
Fundora shows heart and determination also, like all the others' opinions, I like to see both fighters doing a rematch, I'm sure they will have it based on this article


I think Australian boxers are warriors. I saw the same thing happen to George Kambosos Jr against Teofimo Lopez and he doesn't look like he was bothered. It was the fight we expected, despite Fundora has a huge advantage in terms of reach and height but Tszyu didn't care enough, he still attack and give the fans a very entertaining fight but unfortuantely he loss.

I guess that was just how Tszyu fight, he just found an opponent that he could not dominate, so I believe he would lose to Thurman if their fight wasn't cancelled.

Good to know there was a rematch clause, I'm sure
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Amid some confusion over whether there was a rematch clause, Tszyu’s promoter, George Rose of No Limit Boxing, confirmed his fighter had the option to run it back against the 6’6” southpaw.
“He [Fundora’s promoter Sampson Lewkowicz] knows there’s a rematch clause there,” Rose told reporters.
“If we want to take it, we’ll take it. I’d love to see Tim take that and win them belts straight back.
“I’m happy for a rematch to happen next and good luck trying to get out of it.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8

Good to know that there was a rematch clause, I'm sure Tszyu are still eager to avenge his loss, after all it's still a championship fight so if he'll win, he will become a champion again, and then trilogy will take place. It's a fight that peopel will see because they've seen how these two are not afraid to go toe to toe in full 12 rounds.

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April 01, 2024, 01:14:56 AM
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Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)
It's more that it bothered him in this fight. We have seen boxers getting cut and then try to continue but eventually lose because it's not that only it goes into their eyes, but also in their nose and it makes them hard to breathe obviously. I do agree that for some, this fight could have been stop by the referee or the ring doctor could have step up to stop it. I think they failed to do that in this fight. Haven't seen any news yet, but for sure they could be criticized for handling this fight and it should go on this to become one of the bloodiest fight in boxing history. Yeah, this is an upset indeed as no one see this kind of outcome. If there are no elbow, it could have been a different script and Tim winning the fight.

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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.

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April 01, 2024, 02:03:17 PM
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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.

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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.

Tim Tszyu has to become a champion again if he wants to get a bigger fight, maybe a rematch on this fight would do and if he wins, that's the time to chase for a bigger and more popular opponent.  Tim Tszyu vs Crawford is so big but we know that Tim Tszyu will only be a huge underdog here, so it's not worth to watch this as it could be like a mismatch, maybe a comeback fight for Spence vs Tim Tszyu would do, then the winner will get to fight Crawford again.

As long as the rematch clause exist, there's a chance a rematch is happening, maybe this year, who knows.

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April 01, 2024, 03:00:18 PM
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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.

Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.

I don't think that Tim is going to take a tune up fight though, he is the favorite in this fight but it's very unfortunate that he lost this fight because of the accidental elbow. For sure he might be talking on his manager to set up the fight.

So he has the obligations as least to Tim and that's what he said. Unless he change his mind and chase for a bigger fight against Crawford. However, if he lost that fight then there will be no rematch and it will be Tszyu vs Crawford.

Tim Tszyu has to become a champion again if he wants to get a bigger fight, maybe a rematch on this fight would do and if he wins, that's the time to chase for a bigger and more popular opponent.  Tim Tszyu vs Crawford is so big but we know that Tim Tszyu will only be a huge underdog here, so it's not worth to watch this as it could be like a mismatch, maybe a comeback fight for Spence vs Tim Tszyu would do, then the winner will get to fight Crawford again.

As long as the rematch clause exist, there's a chance a rematch is happening, maybe this year, who knows.

A rematch would be nice because there really must be a lot of bettors who still haven't absorbed the reality that Tim lost lol

Maybe the second time around will sink in and finally accept the truth. Honestly, I also lost this fight thinking Tim would also KO Fundora since he can actually get closer to the boy. This is why a rematch would make sense after all the fight ended in a decision. It's just the scoring that differs that made Fundora win but if there is a knock out, it's definitive.

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April 01, 2024, 04:09:42 PM
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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.

Maybe, if not for being "blind" owed to cuts, Tszyu may have won this fight as the decision came to a split decision. Hence, many boxing fans are asking for a re-match. But what I like about Tszyu here is that he accepted the results fair and square, and didn't say anything bad or give reasoning why he lost this match.
Now, if Tszyu's camp really wanted to prove one more time that he has the chance again to get back the belts, they will arrange for a re-match. And a KO on either side would be a good one to see, to determine who really owns those belts.

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April 02, 2024, 01:27:39 PM
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As for the rematch clause that Tim is holding, maybe he should just take a tune-up first to boost his confidence. But of course he needs to have an assurance that Fundora and his next opponent should face him next. Fundora now has 2 belts and might also demand for a rematch clause in his first defense unless it is Terrence Crawford who already has the right for the WBO belt.
The fight is too close, the boxing community wants it and expects a rematch, especially the Australian, I'm sure they will go for it let's see in the coming weeks if Tszyu's camp will go for a rematch, Tszyu needs not a tune-up to boost his confidence he is doing great if not for the big cut.

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Fundora has a lot of options at the moment. I wonder if the WBO can enforce the mandatory right away while there is a rematch clause and PBC also wanted Spence to get a crack at the titles. But if I were to pick, I'd love Fundora to defend his belts against Crawford.
Fundora has a great turn around he was knockout by Mendoza several months ago then get a chance to fight for the championship and here he is a champion now, I don't think he is ready for Crawford and a fight against Spence will be interesting, if Fundora keeps improving he can gain more weights and muscles and eventually ended fighting for the Light heavyweight, the Cruiserweight and eventually the heavyweight.

If Pacquiao has gone from flyweight to super welterweight why not Fundora he has the height and the reach, he just needs a good nutritionist and conditioner.

Maybe, if not for being "blind" owed to cuts, Tszyu may have won this fight as the decision came to a split decision. Hence, many boxing fans are asking for a re-match. But what I like about Tszyu here is that he accepted the results fair and square, and didn't say anything bad or give reasoning why he lost this match.
Now, if Tszyu's camp really wanted to prove one more time that he has the chance again to get back the belts, they will arrange for a re-match. And a KO on either side would be a good one to see, to determine who really owns those belts.

Fundora lost before this title fight but he was actually winning that one before that single big shot that took him down for good. This time, Tim was already landing his shots and figured it out but was just unlucky after a huge elbow before the end of round 2.

Tim's handler already said he wanted an immediate rematch although it all depends on the whole team's decision. To be fair, Fundora's promoter also said they are ready to give Tim the rematch.

The WBO already ordered Crawford and Fundora to start negotiating. If Tim activates the rematch clause, it seems like Fundora will either grant it and vacate the WBO belt. There's also PBC's very own Errol Spence wanting a shot at the title. Poor Bohachuk was only given by the corrupt WBC an interim version without any assurance of getting a shot at the real belt.

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^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.

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^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.
Organization can't dictate a rematch, they can only put a mandatory opponent, the contract was only between both fighters and it was reported that the was a rematch clause, so Tszyu could demand within the specified period of time.

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Tim Tszyu’s team have insisted the Australian has a rematch clause should he wish to get back in there with Sebastian Fundora - a claim supported by the American's agent.

Tszyu was relieved of his WBO super welterweight title, while Fundora also took the vacant WBC strap back home to Coachella, California with a split-decision victory at Las Vegas’ T-Mobile Arena on Saturday night.

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April 03, 2024, 04:49:37 AM
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^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.

I thought that it make sense for him to go to a rematch, but if the organizational body is somewhat forcing him, then he can't do but to fulfill that and fight Crawford. And it's obvious that there could be animosity between WBO and WBC as the issued is for Crawford fight.
Organization can't dictate a rematch, they can only put a mandatory opponent, the contract was only between both fighters and it was reported that the was a rematch clause, so Tszyu could demand within the specified period of time.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/boxing/news/tim-tszyu-rematch-clause-sebastian-fundora-cut/271576681ec62e8f764510c8
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Tim Tszyu’s team have insisted the Australian has a rematch clause should he wish to get back in there with Sebastian Fundora - a claim supported by the American's agent.

Tszyu was relieved of his WBO super welterweight title, while Fundora also took the vacant WBC strap back home to Coachella, California with a split-decision victory at Las Vegas’ T-Mobile Arena on Saturday night.

In the past, there was really a war between the WBO and the WBC. The corrupt WBC thought it can just dictate everything in the boxing world. Anyways, the WBO has no choice as well because Crawford being undisputed can exercise his right to become the WBO mandatory and it is a good thing Paco obliged accordingly.

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April 03, 2024, 06:00:11 AM
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The WBO already ordered Crawford and Fundora to start negotiating. If Tim activates the rematch clause, it seems like Fundora will either grant it and vacate the WBO belt. There's also PBC's very own Errol Spence wanting a shot at the title. Poor Bohachuk was only given by the corrupt WBC an interim version without any assurance of getting a shot at the real belt.

The interim belt was completely pointless. The WBC knew already that Crawford had petitioned to become the winner's mandatory. They will probably say that Bohachuk deserved an opportunity to fight for a title, but there’s nothing in the rules about giving someone a consolation prize because of a last minute change of plans. They could’ve just made the Bohachuk vs. Mendoza winner the WBC mandatory. Having the extra belt around that will take forever to consolidate is just a way for greedy Sulaiman to collect more fees.

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April 03, 2024, 11:49:23 AM
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^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.
It would be nice if Tim's camp will agree to it. Maybe it's advisable that they'll not take the rematch right away so they can study how to defeat the taller guy. In boxing, you're emotion will ruin your career, so Tim's camp has to be smart enough not to loss twice again and we don't want to see another Kambosos which also an australian that losses twice due to his eagerness for a rematch.

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April 03, 2024, 08:10:06 PM
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^^ I also read that news that WBO specifically wanted Fundora to fight Crawford and not Spence. We all know that Tim deserves a rematch, but money wise, Fundora will have to fight Crawford for the belt.
I guess there's a rematch clause on the contract, so it's not Fundora that will decide if Tszyu wants to try again. Both camps has to honor the rematch and I think it was Tszyu that was in control of that since he was the champ before the fight which he loss his belt.

The best thing to do here is for Fundora and Crawford to pay Tim a set-aside fee and also a legal guarantee that the winner will face the Australian next. That was Tim's first defeat and maybe deep inside he is mad, disappointed and some mental issues. He will be assessed by his team and his dad. But I want Tim to have an easy tune-up maybe in the undercard and then face the winner of Fundora and Bud.
It would be nice if Tim's camp will agree to it. Maybe it's advisable that they'll not take the rematch right away so they can study how to defeat the taller guy. In boxing, you're emotion will ruin your career, so Tim's camp has to be smart enough not to loss twice again and we don't want to see another Kambosos which also an australian that losses twice due to his eagerness for a rematch.
This is also what I think, they will have to shell out money to Tim to step aside and let Fundora vs Crawford happen and him get a tune up fight, he will be in win-win situation here, as he will still have the crack to fight the winner for the WBO belt. And this is the classic boxing politics, WBO is like forcing their champion to fight Crawford and there are nothing that Fundora can. And there is supposedly a rematch clause, but since WBO priority is Crawford, the clause will not be executed. But as we fans see it, there's more advantage of Tim not fighting directly Fundora for a rematch as his first lose might have effect on him right now and the way he lose is very bad.

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April 04, 2024, 10:40:19 PM
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Fundora’s freakish height caused this to become a really messy and bloody fight after Tszyu’s head clashed with Fundora’s elbow. I expected this fight to be stopped by the ringside doctor or the referee but the pace slowed down significantly and the injuries on both fighters didn’t get too much worse.

Despite the height difference Tszyu was still able to hit Fundora cleanly and it looked early on like he would get a clear win. Unfortunately, the cut was affecting his vision. This allowed Fundora to jab his way to a close decision victory. The situation with the titles now becomes complicated because Crawford successfully petitioned the WBO to become mandatory but PBC had other plans involving Errol Spence. Tszyu also deserves a rematch against Fundora.

I would agree, the referee should stop the fight as obviously that elbow really did damage to Tszyu. But they let it go throughout the next 10 rounds and we can that if affected Tim in the fight.

I think it boils down to Fundora's decision, he is the champion, so he can either go with the rematch in Australia, or fight Crawford as per WBO. So let's see what his decision is. But for me, I wanted a rematch for Tim, I think he deserves if after what happened in this fight. And Fundora should be all-in to settle this score. He will have to travel though to Tim's Australia.

It's one of the bloodiest fights I've seen, both fighters soaking wet with each other's blood Tim Tszyu loses his focus because the blood is dripping in his eyes and he doesn't want to slug it out with Fundora because the punches might aggravate and worsen those cuts.

I have it drawn in my scorecard, but it can either way, but both fighters deserve a rematch Fundora proves he is ready to become a champion.
Checking the poll I created no one among us voted for Fundora, so we can call this an upset?

Tim Tszyu by KO   - 8 (100%)
Tim Tszyu By Decision   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By KO   - 0 (0%)
Fundora  By Decision   - 0 (0%)

Yes, we really didn't see that Fundora will win this fight. But then again, the elbow was really a big factor int his fight and it's just not the way we wanted it.

And so it looks like we will see Fundora vs Crawford, next but there are news that it could be delayed as Crawford is asking too much or demanding that he will get the lion share of the split. Also, Fundora will have to take a rest as he himself is injured with a broken nose I presumed. But it could happen at the end of the year, most likely November-December if both parties have agreed.

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April 04, 2024, 11:48:44 PM
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And so it looks like we will see Fundora vs Crawford, next but there are news that it could be delayed as Crawford is asking too much or demanding that he will get the lion share of the split. Also, Fundora will have to take a rest as he himself is injured with a broken nose I presumed. But it could happen at the end of the year, most likely November-December if both parties have agreed.

There's no official announcement yet, but there is a contract to be honored so the contract will precede the mandatory order, Tszyu seems serious about a rematch so there's a big possibility that we will read more on the news about a rematch than the news of Crawford fighting Fundora.

If Fundora wins the rematch then we can botch for the Fundora - Crawford rematch unless Crawford does not ask what the promoters cannot give.


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