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March 19, 2024, 12:39:54 PM
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Hello friends. I have two RSZ values obtained from the transfer of a bitcoin address and I want to find the nonce/private key. I do not write the values for confidentiality reasons, but I give approximate values as an example. k can be k+1. I'm sure there are many people here who can figure this out, but I can't. Any python code formulas etc that can help me? is there? I need your ideas.
R1 = 00a61d1110016763ed34995c319a42ea81b96a593efb29a4a46880bd8fe955077f
S1=009a72c80ae72e6edbe93d96d0202cc73bdf4ed1630c23381b2891e2427393878
Z1=306801f94f8bed2d753a66c60a614f359ff94758937bc7f950a9865d33ce1092

R2 = 00a6f4e7382a1c878a740e113c313779bcaa2dc20af5c1ff6c2bb7011cfb278c0d
S2=009cbddcba33bd30b4caad188ab02552e68b74fd43946e5b5a7f593dd367a26d28
Z2=9c76db1673ded5f0028abe36ad3b47bc47973681530481a32e1e7dd2f66ba0fd

The values are here, R1-R2 and S1-S2 are close to each other. I don't know how to make the connection. And of course how to calculate this correctly. I would be grateful if you help.
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March 19, 2024, 12:49:50 PM
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I don't know much about Nonce but I guessed this thread will be helpful Nonce k and k +1 (ECDSA SIGNATURE)

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March 19, 2024, 01:28:46 PM
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Thank you very much, I will check it out right away
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March 22, 2024, 06:31:28 PM
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If R1 and R2 are close to each other, it does not mean k and K+1 are used.
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March 22, 2024, 11:23:47 PM
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So is there any way to understand this?
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March 23, 2024, 05:49:01 PM
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Let's see it with an example,

R = k * G  mod N

Where k is the random number, G is the Gen point, and N is the order of the curve.

If I take  k randomly = 633cbe3ec02b9401c5effa144c5b4d22f87940259634858fc7e59b1c09937852

k* G = 02e9d4436e5e57ac598594faf9a04b8edc69a04096863ef4bd5a27dfcdc8c89fed (compressed)

k+1 * G = 0313e264d56097d32b38e23c6218b951ed02a684dccee5036388df1e6b94b5417a

The difference between them is enormous.  I don't know numbers that generate consecutive public keys with slight differences.

When you say slight difference, how small is it? Do you have a range?
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March 23, 2024, 06:31:18 PM
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I don't actually have any range. It looked small to me.
So do you know a way to understand the relationship between two nonces?
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March 23, 2024, 07:34:11 PM
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I don't actually have any range. It looked small to me.
So do you know a way to understand the relationship between two nonces?

If there were an easy way to find the relationship between 2 nonces, it would break the ECDSA.
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