GETSATS.CLUB, a new NO-KYC, lightning network, onion casino | LIMITED FREE BET

[markk1]

What does the author hope for? Who will play in a scripted casino with two games without a license? Study the gambling market, buy a casino with a license, good luck.

[1715411442]

1715411442

[1715411442]

1715411442

[1715411442]

1715411442

[1715411442]

1715411442

[1715411442]

1715411442

[getsats.club]

Nice casino there , interesting that you are offering different approach in gambling
industry and indeed I am willing to play here ,  hope that you will stand on that NO KYC
forever and willnot change when there is a withdrawal coming.

Welcome in Bitcoinalk guys , looking forward in playing with your site.

I believe they are not regulated, so they'll be scamming you if eventually they'll ask for KYC once you hit the jackpot, or a big winning.

I checked their TOS and this is what I read.

https://getsats.club/#

Our website adopts a complete freedom policy.
This means that you can connect using a vpn, create multiple sessions and withdraw and deposit any amount you want, when you want.
We will not ban anyone, or limit any account, so feel free to play how you want and enjoy your stay here!

Honestly, I find the site very simple to operate but I'm not so impress with the UI yet, maybe there's some improvement to be done in the future to make it more attractive and more transparent I guess.

Since when non regulated means that we are willing to ask KYC on a big winning? We want to operate with the trust of our customers. Over the time you will see we are 100% transparent.
Honestly, I think that the real scammers are the KYC casino, since they often ask you to make KYC during the withdrawal phase or even worst they ban your account with the balance inside.
So having a license doesn't mean they are honest, but it's often the opposite.

[getsats.club]

What does the author hope for? Who will play in a scripted casino with two games without a license? Study the gambling market, buy a casino with a license, good luck.

Hi,
our games are not scripted. As you can see, our games are all provably fair. This means that we cannot cheat during the game, and you can verify it!
Came check on our website! We have a dedicated page for the provably fair.
Why should we buy a license? To scam people asking for KYC?

[khaled0111]

Personally, I like the fact that the casino is not licensed and I don't see this as a drawback, of course supposing they can keep operating like this for too long.
I tried the games in demo mode and I noticed that the design is not well optimized for mobiles, unfortunately. You need to work on this, imo.
Also, I understand that the games are provably fair but I didn't find how or where the customer can enter his seed! Or this option is not available on demo mode?

[Slow death]

Personally, I like the fact that the casino is not licensed and I don't see this as a drawback, of course supposing they can keep operating like this for too long.

unfortunately, governments impose laws without thinking much about the consequences of such laws and in this casino, the laws that governments have imposed require casinos to have licenses, even if we are talking about licenses issued by a country that, after issuing such a license, never carries out any supervision. in order to know if the casinos that have their license are operating under their laws. It's sad to see that casinos with licenses become scams, it means that those scammers who create a casino and have a license and then steal people's money know that they didn't deliver their real documents when processing the license and the license didn't stop them from steal money from customers

But even so, governments don't do anything for these scammers who created casinos and stole people's money, they didn't do anything to them. but when governments realize that there is a casino operating without a license and that it is moving a lot of money, then they will seize that casino and they will accuse the casino of money laundering and operating a casino without a license and they will arrest the owner of the casino. and prison sentences are sentences of many years. In my opinion, it is not worth operating a casino without a license, the risk that the owner of that same casino will be taking is very high

[getsats.club]

Personally, I like the fact that the casino is not licensed and I don't see this as a drawback, of course supposing they can keep operating like this for too long.
I tried the games in demo mode and I noticed that the design is not well optimized for mobiles, unfortunately. You need to work on this, imo.
Also, I understand that the games are provably fair but I didn't find how or where the customer can enter his seed! Or this option is not available on demo mode?

Hi,
thank you very much for trying our casino!
Unfortunately the new major release it's not optimized for mobiles yet. We are already working to fix this issue!
You can still play scratchcard game without much problems tho.
You can verify the game by your own using the instruction on the "Provably fair" page.

[getsats.club]

Personally, I like the fact that the casino is not licensed and I don't see this as a drawback, of course supposing they can keep operating like this for too long.

unfortunately, governments impose laws without thinking much about the consequences of such laws and in this casino, the laws that governments have imposed require casinos to have licenses, even if we are talking about licenses issued by a country that, after issuing such a license, never carries out any supervision. in order to know if the casinos that have their license are operating under their laws. It's sad to see that casinos with licenses become scams, it means that those scammers who create a casino and have a license and then steal people's money know that they didn't deliver their real documents when processing the license and the license didn't stop them from steal money from customers

But even so, governments don't do anything for these scammers who created casinos and stole people's money, they didn't do anything to them. but when governments realize that there is a casino operating without a license and that it is moving a lot of money, then they will seize that casino and they will accuse the casino of money laundering and operating a casino without a license and they will arrest the owner of the casino. and prison sentences are sentences of many years. In my opinion, it is not worth operating a casino without a license, the risk that the owner of that same casino will be taking is very high

Hi,
we are not a big casino at the moment as you can see. In the future we may think to buy a license if we become one, only if this means we can keep our ToS pretty the same.
Plus, what should be the country interested in our casino, if we don't reside in any State, and we do not accept any fiat currency? Bitcoin ain't real money for the government, ain't it?

[peter0425]

Welcome here in bitcointalk ., have visited the site and indeed the SImplicity of the site got my interest ,  and also it is good that you are accepting Lightning network deposit/withdrawal.
this will help  players to have their way in cheapest transacting if there are some high fees happening in the market sometimes.

[Russlenat]

Nice casino there , interesting that you are offering different approach in gambling
industry and indeed I am willing to play here ,  hope that you will stand on that NO KYC
forever and willnot change when there is a withdrawal coming.

Welcome in Bitcoinalk guys , looking forward in playing with your site.

I believe they are not regulated, so they'll be scamming you if eventually they'll ask for KYC once you hit the jackpot, or a big winning.

I checked their TOS and this is what I read.

https://getsats.club/#

Our website adopts a complete freedom policy.
This means that you can connect using a vpn, create multiple sessions and withdraw and deposit any amount you want, when you want.
We will not ban anyone, or limit any account, so feel free to play how you want and enjoy your stay here!

Honestly, I find the site very simple to operate but I'm not so impress with the UI yet, maybe there's some improvement to be done in the future to make it more attractive and more transparent I guess.

Since when non regulated means that we are willing to ask KYC on a big winning? We want to operate with the trust of our customers. Over the time you will see we are 100% transparent.
Honestly, I think that the real scammers are the KYC casino, since they often ask you to make KYC during the withdrawal phase or even worst they ban your account with the balance inside.
So having a license doesn't mean they are honest, but it's often the opposite.

I understand that you want to build a reputation in the market. What I was saying is that a non regulated casino should not ask for KYC because KYC requirement is only for regulated casino, and if one non regulated casino ask for a KYC, that obviously meant they are here to scam.

I like that you value honesty, but let's get real here, eventually as your market gets bigger you'll soon will get a license to protect the future of your business, you get popular and hence authorities will be after you for taxes. But anyway, just enjoy what your status now, and I wish you the best.

[CryptSafe]

Welcome to bitcointalk platform mate.  Since you have said this "More games coming soon..." I will presume the website is still on development phase but can be used for service because I perused the website for myself to see how your service looks like because the nature of this service as you have mentioned here looks quite different from other casinos I have encountered on this platform. Possibly this might be a new pattern  though and I commend your efforts for this.

I see that you are trying to do away with most of what other casinos does by demanding for too much  details which is in accordance with government policies of the various places they operate from making them centralized casinos out there.

I have read your replies to questions pertaining to your terms and conditions of service which you have not. Do you not think the FAQ and TOS would give and guide prospective visitors to your website on how to use your casino? Your TOS could help if stated could help visitors to your website know and have clues  about your website and how to navigate through. 

It would be nice you include the above listed features wether you are a centralized or decentralized casino. It would be good  visitors have clue about your casino and what it  stands for so as to guide them through their visit to your website.

Hi,
thank you very much for the interest!

We will soon make a tutorial page to understand how the casino works, and
we will write a TOS and FAQ that will state explicitely that we do not have particular
restrictions. We allow users from all over the world to play and we do not have a ban policy,
because we are not allowing users to make something we don't want in the first place. And as you can see,
there are no registration, just a recovery key/password to save your session (and balance). So we can't
really ban nobody, since they could make another session.
Thank you very much for all of the efforts you took to write to us, we will improve ourself through your words.

Indeed this is what a decentralised casino looks like. I have gone through your website again and I can confirm that you have now updated your tos. This is what it means listening to the input and opinions of others. You are a good listener and communicator. You understand the business principles and applications. I have no doubt you would go a long way.

Lastly, you should learn to quote reply that you do o not occupy the thread alone otherwise you would be tagged spamming your own board. If you can, edit and quote reply, that would be okay and it keeps your thread coordinated.

[getsats.club]

Welcome here in bitcointalk ., have visited the site and indeed the SImplicity of the site got my interest ,  and also it is good that you are accepting Lightning network deposit/withdrawal.
this will help  players to have their way in cheapest transacting if there are some high fees happening in the market sometimes.

Hi,
thank you very much for the compliments! Yes we decided to accept lightning at first becouse in this period is more than necessary...
In the future we may think to add onchain payments if the market requires it! But for this small import lightning just fit more!

[getsats.club]

Nice casino there , interesting that you are offering different approach in gambling
industry and indeed I am willing to play here ,  hope that you will stand on that NO KYC
forever and willnot change when there is a withdrawal coming.

Welcome in Bitcoinalk guys , looking forward in playing with your site.

I believe they are not regulated, so they'll be scamming you if eventually they'll ask for KYC once you hit the jackpot, or a big winning.

I checked their TOS and this is what I read.

https://getsats.club/#

Our website adopts a complete freedom policy.
This means that you can connect using a vpn, create multiple sessions and withdraw and deposit any amount you want, when you want.
We will not ban anyone, or limit any account, so feel free to play how you want and enjoy your stay here!

Honestly, I find the site very simple to operate but I'm not so impress with the UI yet, maybe there's some improvement to be done in the future to make it more attractive and more transparent I guess.

Since when non regulated means that we are willing to ask KYC on a big winning? We want to operate with the trust of our customers. Over the time you will see we are 100% transparent.
Honestly, I think that the real scammers are the KYC casino, since they often ask you to make KYC during the withdrawal phase or even worst they ban your account with the balance inside.
So having a license doesn't mean they are honest, but it's often the opposite.

I understand that you want to build a reputation in the market. What I was saying is that a non regulated casino should not ask for KYC because KYC requirement is only for regulated casino, and if one non regulated casino ask for a KYC, that obviously meant they are here to scam.

I like that you value honesty, but let's get real here, eventually as your market gets bigger you'll soon will get a license to protect the future of your business, you get popular and hence authorities will be after you for taxes. But anyway, just enjoy what your status now, and I wish you the best.

Of course we don't ask you for KYC at any time since we have no need to do so.

Even if we will have to buy a license in the future, we will make sure to keep the ideology we have now pretty straight.
That means that we will always make very clear what our ToS is in order to not make people think are something we don't.
For example, there is no need to ask for KYC during the withdrawal phase to sequestr the funds of our users.
Anyway, until the day we start to get bigger our policy remain the one we are using now. So NOW, our casino is full no KYC, lightning and onion ready.
Thank you very much for wishing us the best!

[getsats.club]

Welcome to bitcointalk platform mate.  Since you have said this "More games coming soon..." I will presume the website is still on development phase but can be used for service because I perused the website for myself to see how your service looks like because the nature of this service as you have mentioned here looks quite different from other casinos I have encountered on this platform. Possibly this might be a new pattern  though and I commend your efforts for this.

I see that you are trying to do away with most of what other casinos does by demanding for too much  details which is in accordance with government policies of the various places they operate from making them centralized casinos out there.

I have read your replies to questions pertaining to your terms and conditions of service which you have not. Do you not think the FAQ and TOS would give and guide prospective visitors to your website on how to use your casino? Your TOS could help if stated could help visitors to your website know and have clues  about your website and how to navigate through. 

It would be nice you include the above listed features wether you are a centralized or decentralized casino. It would be good  visitors have clue about your casino and what it  stands for so as to guide them through their visit to your website.

Hi,
thank you very much for the interest!

We will soon make a tutorial page to understand how the casino works, and
we will write a TOS and FAQ that will state explicitely that we do not have particular
restrictions. We allow users from all over the world to play and we do not have a ban policy,
because we are not allowing users to make something we don't want in the first place. And as you can see,
there are no registration, just a recovery key/password to save your session (and balance). So we can't
really ban nobody, since they could make another session.
Thank you very much for all of the efforts you took to write to us, we will improve ourself through your words.

Indeed this is what a decentralised casino looks like. I have gone through your website again and I can confirm that you have now updated your tos. This is what it means listening to the input and opinions of others. You are a good listener and communicator. You understand the business principles and applications. I have no doubt you would go a long way.

Lastly, you should learn to quote reply that you do o not occupy the thread alone otherwise you would be tagged spamming your own board. If you can, edit and quote reply, that would be okay and it keeps your thread coordinated.

Hi,
thank you very much for all the compliments!
I will try to understandard better how to use the functionality of bitcointalk. Is there a guide for newbie? Thank you very much!

[CryptSafe]

Welcome to bitcointalk platform mate.  Since you have said this "More games coming soon..." I will presume the website is still on development phase but can be used for service because I perused the website for myself to see how your service looks like because the nature of this service as you have mentioned here looks quite different from other casinos I have encountered on this platform. Possibly this might be a new pattern  though and I commend your efforts for this.

I see that you are trying to do away with most of what other casinos does by demanding for too much  details which is in accordance with government policies of the various places they operate from making them centralized casinos out there.

I have read your replies to questions pertaining to your terms and conditions of service which you have not. Do you not think the FAQ and TOS would give and guide prospective visitors to your website on how to use your casino? Your TOS could help if stated could help visitors to your website know and have clues  about your website and how to navigate through. 

It would be nice you include the above listed features wether you are a centralized or decentralized casino. It would be good  visitors have clue about your casino and what it  stands for so as to guide them through their visit to your website.

Hi,
thank you very much for the interest!

We will soon make a tutorial page to understand how the casino works, and
we will write a TOS and FAQ that will state explicitely that we do not have particular
restrictions. We allow users from all over the world to play and we do not have a ban policy,
because we are not allowing users to make something we don't want in the first place. And as you can see,
there are no registration, just a recovery key/password to save your session (and balance). So we can't
really ban nobody, since they could make another session.
Thank you very much for all of the efforts you took to write to us, we will improve ourself through your words.

Indeed this is what a decentralised casino looks like. I have gone through your website again and I can confirm that you have now updated your tos. This is what it means listening to the input and opinions of others. You are a good listener and communicator. You understand the business principles and applications. I have no doubt you would go a long way.

Lastly, you should learn to quote reply that you do o not occupy the thread alone otherwise you would be tagged spamming your own board. If you can, edit and quote reply, that would be okay and it keeps your thread coordinated.

Hi,
thank you very much for all the compliments!
I will try to understandard better how to use the functionality of bitcointalk. Is there a guide for newbie? Thank you very much!

It is good you get acquainted with the platform so you do not get yourself into issues. You can check out this board and see for yourself what is obtainable here. You should read them and understand them properly. On the beginners and help board, there you can ask questions of there is anything you do not understand so that members could help you explain things to you for your better understanding.


Here is the link to the thread for you to read about the platform. They are just some tips on activities here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0

[Potato Chips]

I suggest listing your casino on https://lightningnetworkstores.com/ -- it's probably the most popular merchant directory for anything LN. Folks interested could also find exchanges there that does btc native/altcoins to BTC LN swaps.

In addition, I also think it'll be a nice touch if the scratch surface is an image rather than a solid color.

[getsats.club]

Welcome to bitcointalk platform mate.  Since you have said this "More games coming soon..." I will presume the website is still on development phase but can be used for service because I perused the website for myself to see how your service looks like because the nature of this service as you have mentioned here looks quite different from other casinos I have encountered on this platform. Possibly this might be a new pattern  though and I commend your efforts for this.

I see that you are trying to do away with most of what other casinos does by demanding for too much  details which is in accordance with government policies of the various places they operate from making them centralized casinos out there.

I have read your replies to questions pertaining to your terms and conditions of service which you have not. Do you not think the FAQ and TOS would give and guide prospective visitors to your website on how to use your casino? Your TOS could help if stated could help visitors to your website know and have clues  about your website and how to navigate through. 

It would be nice you include the above listed features wether you are a centralized or decentralized casino. It would be good  visitors have clue about your casino and what it  stands for so as to guide them through their visit to your website.

Hi,
thank you very much for the interest!

We will soon make a tutorial page to understand how the casino works, and
we will write a TOS and FAQ that will state explicitely that we do not have particular
restrictions. We allow users from all over the world to play and we do not have a ban policy,
because we are not allowing users to make something we don't want in the first place. And as you can see,
there are no registration, just a recovery key/password to save your session (and balance). So we can't
really ban nobody, since they could make another session.
Thank you very much for all of the efforts you took to write to us, we will improve ourself through your words.

Indeed this is what a decentralised casino looks like. I have gone through your website again and I can confirm that you have now updated your tos. This is what it means listening to the input and opinions of others. You are a good listener and communicator. You understand the business principles and applications. I have no doubt you would go a long way.

Lastly, you should learn to quote reply that you do o not occupy the thread alone otherwise you would be tagged spamming your own board. If you can, edit and quote reply, that would be okay and it keeps your thread coordinated.

Hi,
thank you very much for all the compliments!
I will try to understandard better how to use the functionality of bitcointalk. Is there a guide for newbie? Thank you very much!

It is good you get acquainted with the platform so you do not get yourself into issues. You can check out this board and see for yourself what is obtainable here. You should read them and understand them properly. On the beginners and help board, there you can ask questions of there is anything you do not understand so that members could help you explain things to you for your better understanding.


Here is the link to the thread for you to read about the platform. They are just some tips on activities here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0

Thank you very much for the suggestions! We will read it for sure

[getsats.club]

I suggest listing your casino on https://lightningnetworkstores.com/ -- it's probably the most popular merchant directory for anything LN. Folks interested could also find exchanges there that does btc native/altcoins to BTC LN swaps.

In addition, I also think it'll be a nice touch if the scratch surface is an image rather than a solid color.

Hi,
thank you very much for suggesting us this merchant directory! We will list our casino as soon as possible!
Thank you for testing our casino! We will think about inserting an image instead of a solid color.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

        -  As the previous commenters said, they are also welcome here in the forum, and you have shared that here on this platform as well. The way you share here OP looks like it's easy to play these games, you say.

It seems that my understanding is that if I win, the bet amount I made will double. Is that right? then it's also simple to guess if the number will increase or decrease. But in fairness, these hi-lo games are tempting, in my opinion. I hope that the games offered to gamblers in this field will increase in the future.

[AmoreJaz]

I suggest listing your casino on https://lightningnetworkstores.com/ -- it's probably the most popular merchant directory for anything LN. Folks interested could also find exchanges there that does btc native/altcoins to BTC LN swaps.

In addition, I also think it'll be a nice touch if the scratch surface is an image rather than a solid color.

Hi,
thank you very much for suggesting us this merchant directory! We will list our casino as soon as possible!
Thank you for testing our casino! We will think about inserting an image instead of a solid color.

If I may suggest also, can you add FAQ tab on your site? As many players are not very familiar with the use of LN, would be helpful for them to provide some useful links like tutorials and supplementary info so they will not be hesitant in using the lightning network. You don't need to create your own tutorial videos or steps, just provide some related threads or links that a potential player can refer to right away.

This thread below, I believe will be a very good one to start with

Table - All Lightning Network Threads In One Place

Also, are you going to add more entries in your ToS? Seems very short and still lacking some important protocols for a gambling site.

[Alone055]

Welcome to the forum!

First things first, the UI can be improved greatly, I know you tried your best and you are new in the industry, but you need to make it look better, at least the alignment of items being shown should be better.

I opened the Hi-Lo game, and the items are so large that you need to scroll up and down to see the whole screen, and even after scrolling up, the card doesn't appear complete from the top. You should make the size of each item small so that it fits in a single frame and there shouldn't be a scroll bar available on that screen.

I also have a question. Since you mentioned that the HI-LO game offers a 2:1 payout ratio and if one bets with 500 Sats, they get 1000 Sats for a win. Does that mean your HI-LO game has no house edge? Does that apply to real money as well or it's just for the demo mode and it will be changed when you launch the full version?

Edit: I have noticed one more thing in the HI-LO game. A popup notification tells you how much you have won when you win a bet, but there is no popup when you lose. Why is that? There should be a popup for the lost bets as well and it should show the amount lost, or at least show that the bet has been lost.