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March 23, 2024, 07:37:26 AM
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Yes football has always been a problem between two friend or two different people in a community, everyone wants to support their team and not letting any distractions or negative thoughts from the opposite team. It’s a problem when a friend is talking against his team and a lot of arguments can come up that will lead to a minor or major problem between them, so the only way his for them to understand that this is a game and it won’t have to affect them in any way, even the people they are supporting are not even taking it personal as they do.



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March 23, 2024, 07:45:59 AM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

The behavior you convey is common for gambling addicts because it is based on the factor of wanting to chase wins or losses so they will be ready to bet until they realize that their money or deposit is almost gone.
Yes, because an addict thinks that they won't just stop if they achieve what they want, even though they already know that victory is difficult to obtain, but because of their courage to take high risks, they stick with their founder.
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March 23, 2024, 07:59:00 AM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
I know football brings unity within people,  football can also create good friendship between people that just know each other. But I don't expect people to let emotions do things bad because of football.  Football is a game that any ot the team can win, whenever a team wins I think their is a need for celebration and whenever a team lose I don't think fans needs to take it personal because it is just a game. Every team has it own time to shine and every team has it own to lose , so whenever lose happens I don't think their is a need for people to take it personal,  that is why people needs to learn not to expect so much in football because anything can happen.

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March 23, 2024, 08:19:33 AM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
The behavior you convey is common for gambling addicts because it is based on the factor of wanting to chase wins or losses so they will be ready to bet until they realize that their money or deposit is almost gone.
Yes, because an addict thinks that they won't just stop if they achieve what they want, even though they already know that victory is difficult to obtain, but because of their courage to take high risks, they stick with their founder.
In betting, of course everyone wants to win on their bets, even though there are some people who say they gamble just want to have fun, of course they also want to win from the bets they place, everyone who places bets of course they have strong courage to place a bet of the amount of money they have even though they don't know whether they will be able to win the bet or not and of course they are very confident in the bet they placed.

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March 23, 2024, 01:28:27 PM
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Football is the best sport. More than just kicking a ball, it fosters communities! I see passionate fans together, others see fighting. The best rivalries exist. The thrill, the exhilaration! Real supporters know to shake hands afterward and appreciate our beloved sport. As it should be.

Some people dont understand betting. Smart strategy, people. Mastering the game better than anyone. Winning money too? Thats the American Dream! Bet wisely and play within your means - the top players usually do.

Football's about more than points. It celebrates raw talent, grit, and what people can achieve when they join for a cause. Some focus on the negatives, but clever ones see the big picture. Winning is great, but sportsmanship is better. And a side bet? Playing that way is wise.

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March 23, 2024, 01:30:27 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
I know football brings unity within people,  football can also create good friendship between people that just know each other. But I don't expect people to let emotions do things bad because of football.  Football is a game that any ot the team can win, whenever a team wins I think their is a need for celebration and whenever a team lose I don't think fans needs to take it personal because it is just a game. Every team has it own time to shine and every team has it own to lose , so whenever lose happens I don't think their is a need for people to take it personal,  that is why people needs to learn not to expect so much in football because anything can happen.
Football unites and divides. The rush and sensation of belonging are great, but the unpredictability is insane. Yes, teams win and lose in a game. We fail when feelings turn sour and it's no longer a game. War mirrors life, you know?

Why get caught up? We're human! Raw, man. However, when those emotions turn into hate, we lose the goal. Yes, celebrate! Yes, be devastated after a loss! But neglect what matters? No way. The whole experience; the highs, the lows, and the frickin' bonds you make in the stands; is what makes football magical

As for expectations? Throw them away. Know football inside and out? Then a miracle happens. The full kick, right? Life may be summarized as underdog wins, favored stumbles. Enjoy it, but remember it's a game. One meant to unify, not separate

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March 23, 2024, 01:40:26 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
That's just fans being fans and having too much emotion for the teams that they're fanning of. Well, if such tension is made by the fans, the only thing that are to blame is them.

They don't have to come to that point that they're forgetting that they're altogether as one and they're friends or relatives.

If such bond is being cut due to being fan of teams and its opponents, then, you're just doing it too much and there's a need to knock with the reality that no matter how die hard you are, these clubs won't even bother to know you.

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March 23, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
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Yes football has always been a problem between two friend or two different people in a community, everyone wants to support their team and not letting any distractions or negative thoughts from the opposite team. It’s a problem when a friend is talking against his team and a lot of arguments can come up that will lead to a minor or major problem between them, so the only way his for them to understand that this is a game and it won’t have to affect them in any way, even the people they are supporting are not even taking it personal as they do.
It depends on the supporter, if he supports it too much, there will usually be disputes between them, that's why it's lucky that my friends and I are not like that, even though we have different teams, that doesn't mean we have to make fun of each other, let alone make fun of each other, what we usually do is bet just to have fun because we lose. and winning is a normal thing in football matches, if only all supporters were like that it would be better not to love their team too much.

Anything that is excessive will definitely not be good, so it's best to just support or provide support, nothing more, as long as it is still within normal limits and not excessive, there are lots of communities for each team and friendships are divided because of the different teams they love, shouldn't there be differences? unite everyone, why do we have to force other people to like the team we like, whereas everyone's views are always different in terms of the strength of the team, that's why my friends and I always think it's a normal thing and not something that should be disputed either.

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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
The behavior you convey is common for gambling addicts because it is based on the factor of wanting to chase wins or losses so they will be ready to bet until they realize that their money or deposit is almost gone.
Yes, because an addict thinks that they won't just stop if they achieve what they want, even though they already know that victory is difficult to obtain, but because of their courage to take high risks, they stick with their founder.
In betting, of course everyone wants to win on their bets, even though there are some people who say they gamble just want to have fun, of course they also want to win from the bets they place, everyone who places bets of course they have strong courage to place a bet of the amount of money they have even though they don't know whether they will be able to win the bet or not and of course they are very confident in the bet they placed.

Yes, it is clear that gamblers dare to bet to support their proud team so that they can win even in large amounts because they are sure that their money will return to them because their team is considered a superior team and it is impossible for gamblers. dare to bet on sports for teams that have not achieved success for a long time. suitable.
Yes, there are lots of gamblers who say that they just want to have fun, but don't deny that they also want to win, that's definitely a certainty.
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Life is hard and football is an escape for a lot of people from the pressures and stresses of life. Most people choose a team to follow when they are very young, it becomes a very important part of their life.

As somebody who goes to games regularly and has followed their team across Europe, witnessing euphoric highs but also awful lows, I can personally say that football can definitely shape your current mood.

I don’t get involved in fighting but Liverpool winning makes me happy but also gets me down when we lose.

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Passion and loyalty are admirable, but excessive emotional investment can create tension, as in your experience with your brother. The way you describe his behavior as "emotional garbage" is a strong term, but it captures the frustration you feel when his mood sours due to a team's loss.  Imagine someone letting the outcome of a game negatively impact their entire week and their relationships with others.

The distinction you draw between passionate support and taking it out on loved ones is crucial.  Cheering for a team is great, but it shouldn't come at the expense of family harmony. The humorous detail of him being a non-betting fan adds another layer.  His intense emotions aren't fueled by financial risk, but by pure passion.

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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
If they took it too far, then they can only be termed foolish and nothing else as emotion is the cause of this. If we allow emotion to push us too far, then that can't be right in any sense. Such people can't just control themselves and they do not know they are idiots for doing that. Some people are so ardent in supporting some teams, so why not support the team maturely and let it be without any issues? But in supporting this team, they will be passing aggression, talking nonsense and provoking people for no warranting reasons. That is the most foolish part of it which is uncalled for and could cause a reaction from the other party they are using their idiocy to affect.

In the situation that it's the two of them who are flexing muscles simply because they are supporting a team, they are both foolish and lack maturity, everything should be moderated. We should respect each other and acknowledge that it is a mere sport. Letting unnecessary arguments pass is a very good approach here. But I have witnessed such annoying ones. The more you tell them to forget about the matter, the more they continue to argue, such vexes me sore if I must say.

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That's because of fanaticism which makes people divided even though they come from the same root. Because fanaticism for a team is a very strong thing and it can turn toxic when the person feels that other people who are not in the same community are trying to beat their favorite team. I'm not trying to blame those who are too fanatical about their team, but their fanaticism can be toxic for other people and if it gets to that stage it can no longer be tolerated - especially if it leads to acts of vandalism, crime, etc.

I know exactly what you are referring to and here it is, that is vandalism, it is what should not be done or taken as an example to have it done, it may be Because when a team is going to play football and they meet other fans of the same team so they support each other, maybe talking, sharing , something like that, it may be that they do create communities, but for friendship and possibly helping Each other when they have to go from one city to another, this is all valid, but not for Agree to carry out acts of vandalism and can harm the people who are there sharing with them, so this type of thing is what I think refers to creating communities.

Football is for everyone, anyone can be or be part of any Organization , you just have to Stick to doing things correctly even if there are no problems with anyone.

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The historical connection between clubs and communities, where fans see themselves as part of a "chosen family," is a key factor.  Imagine supporting a team that represents your hometown and identity, leading to a fierce  sense of loyalty.

The historical context about community-owned clubs and local players fostering a sense of shared ownership is interesting.  Imagine a team representing the hopes and aspirations of a local population, creating a deep emotional connection.

However, the counterpoint about the increasing commercialization of football, with clubs resembling corporations, is a valid one.  Imagine the shift from community ownership to global brands prioritizing profit over tradition, potentially weakening the local connection.

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March 23, 2024, 04:45:22 PM
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Yes football has always been a problem between two friend or two different people in a community, everyone wants to support their team and not letting any distractions or negative thoughts from the opposite team. It’s a problem when a friend is talking against his team and a lot of arguments can come up that will lead to a minor or major problem between them, so the only way his for them to understand that this is a game and it won’t have to affect them in any way, even the people they are supporting are not even taking it personal as they do.
Sports, particularly football or soccer as some may call it, can occasionally trigger hassle among friends or individuals who support opposing teams. But we should always remember that at the end of the day, it's only a game and should not interfere with personal relationships.
Arguments and rivalries may be fun and harmless while maintained in good spirits, but once they begin to cause actual conflict or rage, then that's the best time to stand back. It is important for people to learn to disagree peacefully and recognize that not everyone will share their viewpoint.

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March 23, 2024, 09:01:23 PM
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I grew up in a house full of boys, loving football wasn’t a choice because football time was family time as my dad and my brothers would sit in front of the tv watching the game. It’s interesting because they supported different teams and will occasionally throw subs at each other when their teams lose a game. Never once did their banters lead to a physical altercation. In my experience, nothing bonds people together like football.
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March 23, 2024, 09:17:46 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

One thing capable of uniting people is football. Consider it this way, when a country plays against another country every citizen of that country is united and gives support to their country. On the issue of supporting clubs, yes we might have different clubs we support so try to defend our club when need be. Matches between rival teams often carry intense emotions and significance beyond just sporting competition. Fans may feel compelled to support their team fervently in these matchups, leading to heightened tensions with supporters of the opposing side. Although, most times most people don’t go beyond mere arguments and after the game, everyone becomes friends and family again.

On a lighter note, some fans invest not only their time and money but also their emotions into supporting their favourite football clubs. Wins and losses can have a significant impact on their mood and sense of fulfilment, leading to heightened emotional responses during matches. This emotional investment can sometimes spill over into conflicts with opposing fans who share different allegiances.

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March 23, 2024, 09:34:32 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

We are the ones that should not get being too personal about the sports they are playing to the extent that we loose the relationship ties we had with the people around us all because of gambling or support for a particular team, after the match, the players are going to shake themselves as well as the coaches and we are there fighting ourselves for nothing sake, `this just reminds me of how political race is, when they are contesting, they became enemy of each other, but immediately after the election, they candidates becomes friends irrespective of the winner, after gambling we should be back to our normal lives with nothing being affected at the cause.
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March 23, 2024, 09:57:56 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

As far as I know the football team does not want to create any division among the football fans.  It is the fans that created it themselves.  No football team ever stated or order their fan club to hate other football fan club.  If one has to blame, it could be the community leader that spread out hates against other teams' football club members.  I also don't understand why people are dying to support their football team while the football teams itself does not hate each other.  They are more into rivalry but not personal hates.  If there is hates between football clubs, it arises from the fans' personal emotion.
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March 23, 2024, 10:12:46 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
Yes, the media men are mostly responsible for such things to happen in football. The media disseminate information's that are trickly to the public. And so many passionate fans would take it so seriously that whenever they meet with the opposite fans, they would have so much argument which may lead to violence. Imagine your happiness depends on your team to win and they eventually lost that match day. Obviously, you will feel angry.

The social media had also helped with the increase of cultural racism. Just like how the fight for the best religion so it is in football. I did share a topic some weeks ago about football fans stabbing the rivalry club fan on the day of the match. You could see how extreme a fan could go to show his passion for his club.



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