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March 27, 2024, 10:32:23 PM
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club.
No matter how confident I am about a match, I can never back the confidence with a huge amount of money, which I know is going to affect me if I lose it. I will rather back my confidence with a little amount, which I know in case things go wrong, it’s not really going to affect me. We can't always be right, sometimes we will be wrong, and sometimes gambling is luck. A club that you never expected to win or lose might end up surprising someone. When you are confident about a match, then we should also be smart, don’t gamble blindly.

so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Nobody expected Manchester United to win the match, the result of the match was just shocking, but you should caution your friend. Next time, he shouldn’t be too confident about a match, luck won’t always happen, he shouldn’t get himself into trouble just because he has confidence in his club. If he loses the bet, I don’t really know what condition your friend will currently be in.

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March 27, 2024, 10:44:44 PM
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.

You said something that many people should listen to and memorize, because during a football game, for example, we have seen fans of football teams fighting each other and even managing to get seriously injured, all because they can't accept that their teams lost. in the game, and those same fans who were fighting among themselves and were seriously injured are trapped for many months, while the fans who fought are trapped for months, the football players of those teams they are fans of, are in their homes winning a lot of money and they continue to travel and stay in luxury hotels, continue to eat the best food, continue to buy the best luxury cars while the fans who fought are in jail, eating poorly, sleeping poorly without being able to go out and without being able to see their relatives. and people still don't realize this, that the only ones who will suffer when things go wrong are them and not the football players



This is an image that shows how people keep expressing excessive feelings during games and end up doing crazy things because they are fans of the teams and don't think that everything needs to have limits, what did they gain from going to fight on the field? They didn't get anything good. on the contrary, they were arrested, while the football players are free and living their lives well because they were not violent towards anyone. This is the same thing that happens in sports betting, it doesn't make any sense for a person to keep betting money on their team's victory even though they see that this team will lose because they don't play well. It is unacceptable for someone to do this. There are already cases where people have reached an extreme level, something very sad. cases like these:

https://guardian.ng/news/25-year-old-football-fan-commits-suicide-over-betting/

Manchester United Fan Commits Suicide After Weekend Defeat, Says Report

“I confirm that we received the news of a young man who could not stand to see his Manchester United team lose, and instead decided he can die for the sake of a team that is miles far away in Europe.

source: https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/manchester-united-fan-commits-suicide-after-weekend-defeat-says-report-20131209-CMS-90332.html

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I'm shocked to hear that someone keeps betting money on their team that they're a fan of instead of placing sports bets for fun and on teams that have a greater chance of winning, without putting any feelings into it. people should think about themselves

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March 27, 2024, 10:56:46 PM
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I see no reason why i should act being overconfidence for noting all because of my team is hate one playing, i should be able to tell of their strength and weakness before gambling, i cant just intentionally for no reason act being foolish to gamble in support of them even when i know that its not their luck for wining, if any thing should happen to us, none of these supported clubs will pay a visit to us or our family members or even compensate us for something, any action taken by us is at our own risk.
Most gamblers don't just know what they want in gambling; staking to win and playing for fun is different from fans love and support for their team.
 
Because I like a particular team, that should also be the reason why I should know more about them and be able to determine if they can win or not. Knowing fully well that they can't win in that match, I will either leave to place a bet on them or I will boldly place a bet on them to lose.
 
It's as simple as that: placing a bet against my fan team does not mean that I do not support them again. I just don't know to what level some people take this fan of a thing to which they can even decide to lose money just to show their support for their team.

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April 02, 2024, 10:32:41 AM
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Truly a lucky day for OP's friend, tho what he did is super risky and it's rare that someone will do that just to prove to their friends that the team he choose is the right one. it's a good thing he won because otherwise, he'll run out of money, his ego will be trampled.

Oh, I wouldn't say it's rare, actually. I think something like this happens every day on this planet. There are so many people that engage in gambling activity, millions each day, so, I bet some of them doing something similar to OP's friend.

Just like you, I would never bet a huge amount even though I have instincts that I will win if I let this team go. First of all, it is difficult to bet all in because it is risky and secondly, I am not an impulsive type of gambler that I can drop any amount if I want to, my allocated gambling money is limited and I am not yet in point that I can afford to spend a large amount because I don't have that much and if I have, I will put it in my savings and not spend it on my vice.

That's very wise of you, mate. I hope this habit of yours will not change even when you'll be able to afford huge stakes. Don't spend on gambling more than you usually spend on going to a movie theatre or a concert.

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June 01, 2024, 12:57:42 AM
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.
He did not tell us if he is a core glmaber but he said he staked on his club because they argue who is going to be a winner. Also know that the 5000 may not be $5000 but in local currency that may not have high price like the United States dollar. He can just use the amount of money that he can afford to lose to gamble and which will make him not to be an amateur gambler. Any match can be won. The professional gamblers will go for the best team to win and yet even lose in some matches.

Yeah he is not a core gambler, he just did that out of pure support and confidence in his team which normally would be against professional gambling ethics that would say you shouldn't gamble with over confidence cause you can as well lose your funds and over confidence can cause you to stake higher than you are normally supposed to, but yeah in his case its just a matter of little cash 5000 in my currency woidl just be around 5$ or close to that. So I think think he wasn't notorious at all just over confident and sraked to prove himself.

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June 01, 2024, 01:52:02 AM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.



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June 01, 2024, 02:27:00 AM
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Though I can't really call it foolish move because gambling is a risk which you either win or lose. Whosoever that is not a risk taker can never gamble, though it was a more risky game because from your explanation man united was already losing 0:2 to Liverpool that is why it was possible for the man united odd to have increased to 7odd otherwise it will have reduced to maybe 1.10 odd if man united was wining. So the higher the risk the higher the amount in return.

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June 01, 2024, 04:44:22 AM
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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club.
No matter how confident I am about a match, I can never back the confidence with a huge amount of money, which I know is going to affect me if I lose it. I will rather back my confidence with a little amount, which I know in case things go wrong, it’s not really going to affect me. We can't always be right, sometimes we will be wrong, and sometimes gambling is luck. A club that you never expected to win or lose might end up surprising someone. When you are confident about a match, then we should also be smart, don’t gamble blindly.

so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Nobody expected Manchester United to win the match, the result of the match was just shocking, but you should caution your friend. Next time, he shouldn’t be too confident about a match, luck won’t always happen, he shouldn’t get himself into trouble just because he has confidence in his club. If he loses the bet, I don’t really know what condition your friend will currently be in.

I completely agree with all that you have said, at most times people tend to become over confident of club without considering the fact that there is possibilities of player to have fatigue, making him to have low psychology in terms of being 80 percent and above fit for the current game. However confident or over confident should never be a reason for backing up a game with huge amount, because a lot can be happening in the pitch that we don't understand, in as much as we needed to have certain believe of possibilities in terms of our club winning a game we shouldn't bet with an amount we can't afford to lose as gambling gives no guarantee.

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June 01, 2024, 11:52:03 AM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
That's normal if they feels confident on the match they have already stake because they believe that the team will wins in the match. But we don't have to risks too big money to place our bet to that club because we must understand that everything can happens, even in the last minute of the match. If that happens, our confidents will ruins along that the lose from our team and we will lose our money. We can only place a bet with money we can afford to lose so we don't risks all of the money for that match. We can confident with our club but we don't have to be over confident as in gambling, we don't knows when we can wins but we will have a big chance to lose. We must becomes a wise gamblers that understand with the situation and condition so we can adapt with what happens.

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June 01, 2024, 01:56:33 PM
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Yeah he is not a core gambler, he just did that out of pure support and confidence in his team which normally would be against professional gambling ethics that would say you shouldn't gamble with over confidence cause you can as well lose your funds and over confidence can cause you to stake higher than you are normally supposed to, but yeah in his case its just a matter of little cash 5000 in my currency woidl just be around 5$ or close to that. So I think think he wasn't notorious at all just over confident and sraked to prove himself.
Well, although he was lucky this time, I find his move extremely reckless. I'm not saying to not support your team, but to bet large amounts of money when the odds aren't in your favor and you're asking to get screwed over. I also support OFI; it's a local Greek team. I'd go ahead and bet on quite a few of their games; however, if I deemed that the match was too risky, I'd avoid it. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'm "betraying" them; I'm just protecting my money.

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Have anyone ever had confidence in any match that he was willing to be huge amounts to back up the confidence in a match that features his club. A friend of mine recently shocked me with how much passion and confidence he had in his club, man u vs Liverpool  that happened on Sunday I guess was a very hard match cause Liverpool was already stomping 0:2 to man United but my friend was telling that man United won't lose the match, so I told him that if he has much confidence that he should stake life, shocking to me he went on and staked 5k on man United win to qualify which was about 7 odds at that time, and yeah it turned out right for him. Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
When there are fixtures where a particular team has a whole lot at stake, you can be sure to a very great extent that they are goin to make sure they win that game especially if its a determining game to qualify for a league or other reasons then you have a better assurance in the fact that a particular team is most definitely goin to try all their possible best to make sure they are able to win that particular fixture even if its by a single goal and in such case you can express such confidence an go all in because you have a good assurance that a particular team is going to win but then there are still chances it doesn't turn out the way you have expected it and that's how the game of football works.

In the case of your friend he was just lucky and then Manchester united was actually going to put on that fight back sprit because like i mentioned earlier there was something at risk which was their qualification so they are definitely going to make sure they try to win or draw if that will get them to qualify, that wasn't foolishness on the side of your friend as he only risked an opportunity moreover gambling is risk in it self but taking wise risk and not foolish risk. Another considerable reason we can see from your friends risk would be that he was watching the game and seeing the performance of his team he was assured they were going to be able to get something of the game so he went ahead to risk it.

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June 01, 2024, 02:59:43 PM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.
That's normal if they feels confident on the match they have already stake because they believe that the team will wins in the match. But we don't have to risks too big money to place our bet to that club because we must understand that everything can happens, even in the last minute of the match. If that happens, our confidents will ruins along that the lose from our team and we will lose our money. We can only place a bet with money we can afford to lose so we don't risks all of the money for that match. We can confident with our club but we don't have to be over confident as in gambling, we don't knows when we can wins but we will have a big chance to lose. We must becomes a wise gamblers that understand with the situation and condition so we can adapt with what happens.
Trusting your team is great. That has nothing to do with sensible betting. Remember that die-hard fans don't always win.  The beauty of games is that anything can happen. Being a "wise gambler," as you say, goes beyond identifying winners. Risk management, like a smart investor. You wouldn't invest your life money in one stock, right? Same with betting. Bet on numerous games and sorts of bets. That way, if one fails, you're not completely out.

Everyone's human. The thrill consumes us. Thus, setting boundaries before betting is essential. Treat it like an entertainment budget; determine your loss tolerance. Gamble for fun, not retirement.

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June 01, 2024, 03:17:15 PM
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Nope.

Your friend is not a responsible gambler, but luckily he won his very risky bet, I believe he will try do same in the future and hope he will be lucky like this time. However, if your friend can't control himself to bet on team just because he's a fan on that team, he will not going anywhere. If someone want to focus in gambling, he should learn how to control his emotion and focus on his analysis.

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Another contributions is that some people are very emotional in their better because of the love they have for their club, sometimes is not that the clubs will do well or not is just they have made a lot of announcements that they value the club they are supporting so they can place any bet blindly even if they they already know that their club won’t won the match they will always want to try and see if their will be a little positive result and also sometimes the result are positive



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June 01, 2024, 03:59:27 PM
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Yes I have realized that so many persons are so much confident on the match they have already stake, they always believe that they will win and sometimes it turns out the best for them, it really happens and they do take the action of taking all the risk to wait even some do see cash out in their game and they will because of the faith they have with the club and the energy they put into the club and they always make sure it turns out for good, sometimes it is really good to work with your mind and don’t put hope in other people.

There are games in which you will have confidence in some particular club and those clubs would have given you one or two wins from that experience, you have they have earned your trust and you will always want to bet on them any day you are selecting your games and is something everyone do they always have some set of clubs they believe.  there is a limit that clubs like Manchester City will go to that they will lose they hardly lose but they can draw the same thing goes for Arsenal they lose on rare occasions. clubs like that will always be part of the clubs you select when trying to make a win. and it is exciting. when you have faith in them and they can deliver. so because of their continuous win, they have earned people's trust. when they have games they must be included in people's tickets and also like today's game a lot of people are going to go for Real Madrid rather than Dortmund that is the level of trust a club can give you.  the risk might be there but you know the capability of those clubs so taking a risk on picking them is not a bad idea, and everyone will be hoping for Madrid to win because the trust people have in Madrid to win is much.

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June 01, 2024, 04:06:30 PM
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.
He did not tell us if he is a core glmaber but he said he staked on his club because they argue who is going to be a winner. Also know that the 5000 may not be $5000 but in local currency that may not have high price like the United States dollar. He can just use the amount of money that he can afford to lose to gamble and which will make him not to be an amateur gambler. Any match can be won. The professional gamblers will go for the best team to win and yet even lose in some matches.

Yeah he is not a core gambler, he just did that out of pure support and confidence in his team which normally would be against professional gambling ethics that would say you shouldn't gamble with over confidence cause you can as well lose your funds and over confidence can cause you to stake higher than you are normally supposed to, but yeah in his case its just a matter of little cash 5000 in my currency woidl just be around 5$ or close to that. So I think think he wasn't notorious at all just over confident and sraked to prove himself.

when people become very confident in gambling, even if the person is making bets with a very low value and thinks that since they are making a bet with a very low value, that is why they will have no problem being very confident and placing all little their money, yet as time goes by that person will begin to increase the amount of money they will be betting because they will be fearful as time passes while playing. example if in the first month your bet puts a maximum of $5 on each bet and arrives in the second month and he sees that last month he had a lot of hits and ended up with more money compared to the money he had deposited in the casino

so in the following month he will feel too confident and will increase the bet value in each game, he could go from 5$ to 10$ and if he wins and makes a profit, then he will become more confident and increase the bet value even more 10$ to 15$ or more, and when he loses and the cycle of losses begins and when he goes into despair and loses everything, then he starts playing to recover his losses and he will not be able to achieve that goal, and the situation will tend to get worse for he. Unfortunately, the downfall of many players always starts in the same ways. I hope everything goes well with your friend

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June 01, 2024, 04:24:32 PM
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.
He did not tell us if he is a core glmaber but he said he staked on his club because they argue who is going to be a winner. Also know that the 5000 may not be $5000 but in local currency that may not have high price like the United States dollar. He can just use the amount of money that he can afford to lose to gamble and which will make him not to be an amateur gambler. Any match can be won. The professional gamblers will go for the best team to win and yet even lose in some matches.

Yeah he is not a core gambler, he just did that out of pure support and confidence in his team which normally would be against professional gambling ethics that would say you shouldn't gamble with over confidence cause you can as well lose your funds and over confidence can cause you to stake higher than you are normally supposed to, but yeah in his case its just a matter of little cash 5000 in my currency woidl just be around 5$ or close to that. So I think think he wasn't notorious at all just over confident and sraked to prove himself.

when people become very confident in gambling, even if the person is making bets with a very low value and thinks that since they are making a bet with a very low value, that is why they will have no problem being very confident and placing all little their money, yet as time goes by that person will begin to increase the amount of money they will be betting because they will be fearful as time passes while playing. example if in the first month your bet puts a maximum of $5 on each bet and arrives in the second month and he sees that last month he had a lot of hits and ended up with more money compared to the money he had deposited in the casino

so in the following month he will feel too confident and will increase the bet value in each game, he could go from 5$ to 10$ and if he wins and makes a profit, then he will become more confident and increase the bet value even more 10$ to 15$ or more, and when he loses and the cycle of losses begins and when he goes into despair and loses everything, then he starts playing to recover his losses and he will not be able to achieve that goal, and the situation will tend to get worse for he. Unfortunately, the downfall of many players always starts in the same ways. I hope everything goes well with your friend
Yes this is true on what you have said on which if the amount is something not that significant then you wont really be stressing up yourself on where you would be putting up your bets which is unlike if we do speak about all-in bet then this is where things do really changed up even if you do have that 100% belief and confidence towards your club/team or whatever it is but still since we are really that putting up that huge money then you would really be having that kind of thrill on which this is something that we are really that looking for but on the sense that you are already making that all in bet then this is where things to be that different.
If you do have that kind of fan treatment and doesnt mind about on the money that you would really be staking or betting then its your choice.

If you are someone whose really that playing or dealing up with betting then giving your 100% trust with your club or team then its not something that will really be my genre or my path on doing it.
Of course i would really be sticking always with that having that analysis on which you would really be applying. We do know that this cant really be that always depending
if you do support or liking them on which you would really be basing up your choices into that kind of consideration.

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June 01, 2024, 04:42:06 PM
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i will never bet more than i can afford to lose even when i know that the team i bet on will win the match. because i think it is quite stupid for me if i bet a lot of money on a match that i am confident will win, since i do not know what the result of the match will be, because the team i bet on could lose and then i lose all the money and i don't want that. i don't want to regret my bet and only want to gamble according to my ability, even when i am confident in the team i bet on.

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June 01, 2024, 05:20:58 PM
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Can any one do this or was it a foolish move?
Though I can't really call it foolish move because gambling is a risk which you either win or lose. Whosoever that is not a risk taker can never gamble, though it was a more risky game because from your explanation man united was already losing 0:2 to Liverpool that is why it was possible for the man united odd to have increased to 7odd otherwise it will have reduced to maybe 1.10 odd if man united was wining. So the higher the risk the higher the amount in return.
Yes, gambling is just a game of winning or losing at your favorite club. For some people, there are still a lot of people who are confident about betting on their favorite team, especially if they have a match or their opponent is below them in the standings. Who statistically perform far above their team, of course they are very optimistic and confident enough to bet their money that their team will win against their opponent. The opportunity to win will always be there for anyone, but in a football game anything can happen and no one can predict who the winner will be.

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June 02, 2024, 04:00:55 AM
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You friend was just lucky. But what I can deduce from this is that he is an amateur gambler and if he continues in this part he is going to lose a lot of money in the long run.

It looks like he gambles on the whim. No proper analysis, no risk management strategies and all. I am not happy that he won because if he had lost he would have lost a valuable lesson. There is no lesson in winning rather it is going to motivate him to do it again. And lead him eventually to chasing losses.

Tell him to gamble responsibly.

It wasn't over confidence it was reckless.

You are right, there are some things we mistake to be over confidence while it was reckless, as for me, I can use because it's my club and took a risk of staking all my money, what if they didn't win? Even if I'm quite sure, they win but I'm not God, anything can happen, it's good and it also has its side effects, just like you said, if I win, I will want to gamble more for more winning which eventually will lead to addiction likewise if I fail too, it's the same thing, I will want to recover the ones I have lose and I can't take the risks of staking all when I'm also it's not guarantee although gambling it's all about risks taking but not in this case.

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