Poll: Acceptability of Signature Wearer's Use of Insults and Foul Language

[JackpotRacer]

Hello Members


I created this poll because I think this poll should give a clear message to the Signature Wearer to just stay on topic without any insults.

Please give us your explanation why you voted the way you did.

Thank you

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The use of insults or foul language should not be present here, with or without a signature in the profile. The fact that this forum is democratic and there is no adequate punishment for insulting does not mean that it is acceptable.
That's the answer, you can lock this topic.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Op, shouldn't this have been a simple question rather than creating a poll? If yes, reputation suits it best.
Secondly; I'm wondering how less busy you probably are to be so affected by what anyone says in here... Insults and foul languages aren't permitted in here,.. but sometimes, people can be so mulish in behavior and there's a little to what you can do about it...
I'd advice that you lock this poll as it's not even necessary to vote for what has been already implemented.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[alastantiger]

It is one of the unwritten rules of the forum. Besides being able to avoid insults and fouls languages is a mark of a decent human and shows some degree of civility. The poll isn't necessary because of people ticks that insults should be allowed the it means something is wrong with the community but I don't think that would happen. We are expected to treat other user with respect and be courteous in our replies and responses.

[Orpichukwu]

Insult is something most people have had fun doing, especially when they have the privilege to do that. In situations where there is a clash between two members, you will see a lot of foul language on display in such conversations, with or without signatures in the person's profile. They just do it, and if the person is wearing a signature, it's left for the manager to decide if the post is qualified for pay or not.

With or without rules to guide or limit people from direct insults and the use of foul language, the truth is, it's hard to find a forum or platform without such people. It can just be done directly or indirectly, and whenever such a person thinks it's necessary, they will just display.

[Potato Chips]

From the rules FAQ:

Q: Someone insulted me. Why aren't you deleting his post/thread?
A: Possible (since we don't have the time or resources to check) insults are also allowed as long as they contain any kind of constructive opinion, info or something else substantial and aren't off-topic. For example, posting something like "you are dumb" will be deleted as it contains no meaningful content. However, if the post is somewhere along the lines of "You are dumb. This is wrong because this website/thread/etc. has explained it's not right", it's in most cases accepted.

But emphasis on "in most cases" as there could be cases belonging in gray lines. So if you think someone is going overboard, I don't see any harm on reporting it. After all, "one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports."

It's also worth noting that NSFL threats are not allowed.

8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It is one of the unwritten rules of the forum.

But it is written; it's just a typical weird-ass unwritten-but-written-unofficial-and-rarely-enforced kind of forum rule dreamed up by Theymos or who knows who else.

As far as signature campaigners and insults/profanity goes, it's those kinds of posts that get the eyeballs and I don't think there's a single campaign project owner who's specified that their participants can't use whatever choice of words they want.  If that was actually a rule in a campaign, it'd be one I'd avoid like the plague.  Who wants some censor following them around the forum, micromanaging what gets said and what doesn't?  Sounds pretty fuckin' icky to me.

[Rruchi man]

It is normal in the mode of communication for some people to use foul language in their speech, and while you may see and consider their language foul as offensive, these people may not see anything wrong in it.

A campaign manager should add to the campaign rules that foul languages and use of insulting words are not permitted in the campaign, so that if any member or signature campaign wearer who defaults will understand that they have broken a rule.
It will not be fair to some forum members who speak this way and are wearers of a signature, if they are penalized without warning.

[Vod]

The advertisers don't care about the content; only the income.  This is a mostly free speech forum.
They would only be concerned if their business was connected to the scam, not if the poster is just scamming.

I've recently begun tracking all signature, avatar and tagline changes.  Until I started this project (similar to BPIP but different) there was no way to "prove" someone wore a signature when they wrote something.   I'm not doing this for legal reasons, since I voted it's acceptable, but more to track signature cheaters and other fraud.

[JackpotRacer]

The use of insults or foul language should not be present here, with or without a signature in the profile. The fact that this forum is democratic and there is no adequate punishment for insulting does not mean that it is acceptable.
That's the answer, you can lock this topic.

Fair enough, but the question was about foul language and insults in Signature Campaign posts and whether it was acceptable.

if you want me to lock this topic please open another Poll if this topic should be closed. till now you are the only one who is asking for it.

[Helena Yu]

Since this is about signature campaign, you can PM the manager about those users.

if you want me to lock this topic please open another Poll if this topic should be closed. till now you are the only one who is asking for it.

No, why someone need to create a new topic in order to lock other topic? it's spam.

Even there was a thread created and most people voted to lock your topic, you can still argue and don't want to lock it. Only you and the moderator have the way to lock your topic, votes from 50K users won't matter.

[un_rank]

A campaign project and manager can do what they want and pay for what advertising content they deem fit as long as it is not violating forum rules. There is no separate moderation for those wearing signatures from those who are not. The only small distinction might be that if you are caught plagiarizing, it will be much more difficult to get a pardon if those posts where made with the purpose of earning. This is a very small distinction and does not apply in your case.

If you feel any particular post is breaking the forum rules, report it and let the mods handle the case.

- Jay -

[KingsDen]

Op, there are only two options in your poll and I think it will be fair to add more options(s). I would have voted the second option, but the word strictly has made it no longer appropriate to be my answer. In the forum, most of the things are not just followed strictly. Whether or not in the forum, foul words and insults are not acceptable and atleast they shouldn't be paid for. But how then will a campaign manager read in-between lines of every posts to know the ones containing foul words.

That's the answer, you can lock this topic.

Is there a special reason why people request that a thread be locked immediately after providing their own answers? This doesn't look like a shitty thread or so...

[mindrust]

I have no problem with it. People are not machines. We have emotions and sometimes cursing is the best way to show those emotions. When you get angry at something, you curse, you get savage. Obviously it is no good if you are constantly in that mood but that's a decision for the campaign manager. I remember there used to be forum user "TMAN" and he was cursing every time he opened his mouth and somehow he was entertaining. He overdid it so much, people gained immunity to his foul mouth in the end. Still though, I don't want to see everybody becoming a TMAN. That would create a mess.

[JackpotRacer]

Op, there are only two options in your poll and I think it will be fair to add more options(s). I would have voted the second option, but the word strictly has made it no longer appropriate to be my answer. In the forum, most of the things are not just followed strictly. Whether or not in the forum, foul words and insults are not acceptable and atleast they shouldn't be paid for. But how then will a campaign manager read in-between lines of every posts to know the ones containing foul words.

That's the answer, you can lock this topic.

Is there a special reason why people request that a thread be locked immediately after providing their own answers? This doesn't look like a shitty thread or so...

thank you for the posting. if you tell me what options I should add maybe I still can add those.

BTW I don't think that foul language and insults are difficult to see or needed to be looked for in between the lines.

cheers

[KingsDen]

Op, there are only two options in your poll and I think it will be fair to add more options(s). I would have voted the second option, but the word strictly has made it no longer appropriate to be my answer. In the forum, most of the things are not just followed strictly. Whether or not in the forum, foul words and insults are not acceptable and atleast they shouldn't be paid for. But how then will a campaign manager read in-between lines of every posts to know the ones containing foul words.

That's the answer, you can lock this topic.

Is there a special reason why people request that a thread be locked immediately after providing their own answers? This doesn't look like a shitty thread or so...

thank you for the posting. if you tell me what options I should add maybe I still can add those.

BTW I don't think that foul language and insults are difficult to see or needed to be looked for in between the lines.

cheers

• Yes, it is acceptable 
• No, it is strictly unacceptable
• It is subjective 
• Insignificant

I could go with the last option, unless it is an obvious dead brain troll. Again, it is easier for moderators to locate an insulting thread and delete all comments than a manager to identify and deny such posts.

[JackpotRacer]

I have no problem with it. People are not machines. We have emotions and sometimes cursing is the best way to show those emotions. When you get angry at something, you curse, you get savage. Obviously it is no good if you are constantly in that mood but that's a decision for the campaign manager. I remember there used to be forum user "TMAN" and he was cursing every time he opened his mouth and somehow he was entertaining. He overdid it so much, people gained immunity to his foul mouth in the end. Still though, I don't want to see everybody becoming a TMAN. That would create a mess.

I remember "TMAN" very well and he was also a gentleman.
According to your opinion, maybe it would be good to start a thread for Siganture wearers just for cursing and cussing to let them get rid of those emotions you mentioned they need to get rid of. So they don't have to do it in serious threads while wearing their signature. This might be really fun and help them.

• Yes, it is acceptable 
• No, it is strictly unacceptable
• It is subjective 
• Insignificant

I could go with the last option, unless it is an obvious dead brain troll. Again, it is easier for moderators to locate an insulting thread and delete all comments than a manager to identify and deny such posts.

 thanks I will try to add those

Sorry, but I don't understand why it should be easier for a mod to find insults than for a signature manager?

[KingsDen]

Sorry, but I don't understand why it should be easier for a mod to find insults than for a signature manager?

If I meet a thread full of insults and foul words, I can easily use the report button and if a few more people do so, a mod will be notified to take necessary actions. In the other hand, a campaign manager might not be aware of such a thread. I doubt that campaign managers read posts of their campaign participants verbatim. Unless a particular participant is of the habit of insulting always, then the manager should have to keep eyes on him.

[Wapfika]

Foul word is not strictly prohibited for signature wearer since there’s no written rule in the forum for this while most of the signature campaign rules doesn’t include it either. If you really want to push this to signature wearers then campaign managers are the one you need to convince since they are the one who set rules among signature campaign participants if you will target signature wearers on this topic.

If you want to be respected then avoid creating a topic that will cause a commotion that usually resulted to foul words. If there’s only a thing which signature wearer avoid is posting a content that is directly opposing the signature that he wears.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I went with "It is subjective", I see many went with "Yes, it is acceptable".

When it become acceptable and granted for everyone then I think all the forum members will be sold to their signature companies. Business with shady intention companies will launch a campaign and their campaign members will justify anything [right or wrong] in their favour.