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March 25, 2024, 02:10:18 PM
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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.

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March 25, 2024, 02:36:45 PM
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what is keeping him imprisoned(addicted) could be a lack of social support.
  • Family- mother, father, brother, sister
  • Religious support - Priest, Iman, Rabbi
  • Communal support - Gambling Anonymous groups

People who are addicted and are finding difficult to break free more than ever need love and compassion. They need to know that they have not been abandoned by their family. They need to know that they are loved and their family need to help them overcome it. Strength comes from the mind and it come from the loving and encouraging words from family.

There is no metaphysical forces at play in any addiction. With the necessary support any one can break free from it.
I agree so much with you on this issue, the best way to encourage an erring person to come back on track its by showing him pure love and continuous support, without these, the gambler feels very much excluded ave embraces only what gives him a sense of inclusion, which in this case its continuous gambling. Currently, that's the only thing that gives him joy and hope  as he doesn't have a home, a job, or even a family to go back to, so he clings tightly to his habit.

Its important to note that  many times he thinks of quitting, but the circumstances surrounding him depressed him the more and he's left with little or no option than to fall back and gamble again. He surely needs all the love and support he can get to pull out of that addiction, yes he can pull out of it, but not in this state of abandonment.

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March 25, 2024, 03:27:37 PM
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.

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March 25, 2024, 04:19:42 PM
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.
The gambler in mentioned by OP is an addicted gambler and someone who's addicted can't stop gambling easily. These days I have heard of stories both in this gamble section and outside this community that a male gambler used his life savings to gamble and loose the whole money, about 1 million plus.
It's bad to see people that can not control themselves when it comes to gambling. IMO people that are addicted to gamble don't listen to their friends or family advise, just imagine how the gambler uses his business and house money to gamble and I also believed that this gambling of a thing has cost the gambler more than that.
Recently I witnessed 2 couples got separated because of the guy was a gamble addict and the he used the money for project to gamble and he lost the whe money, but the funniest part is he didn't tell his partner.
I guess their is no way to help a gamble addict because everywhere has a network access and people are always around, if they don't have money to bet they will fund another means to stake with, so the best place a gamble addict can stay a whole year without betting is in prison.

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March 25, 2024, 04:37:25 PM
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It's hard to understand why they cant just stop. Could be due to mental health problem or lack of support.  It takes a lot of courage, willingness, and determination to break free from addiction, so it's recommended for them to seek professional help to have successful recovery.

I also can’t understand this. After all, to gamble, you always need money. This means that it is not poor people who acquire such dependence. If a person does not have the means to play, how can he want something?
They write a lot about psychologists and compare it with drug addiction. There is a free way to wean yourself from this addiction. Take all the money and send him to work where there is no casino or Internet. A person will simply have to do something to survive.

Actually. You would be impressed on the amount of people who could be considered to be "poor" and end up being trapped by addiction to gambling. It is not a matter of having money or not, it is about the lengths people are willing to go in order to get the money they need to continue to gamble as much as they want.
People within the middle class will sell their cars, take some loans, sell their weeding rings, among other things. People who do not have so much assets will resort to get into ilegal markets, like the trafic of fuel, narcotrafic and even worse things.

It is a good reason there are so many betting and gambling small establishments in the developing world, even though people there do not seem to have resources to spare, they will always get what they need to continue to gamble and satisfy their craving for it. If it was just about liquidity at hand, there were not so many betting places in developing countries as there are.

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March 25, 2024, 04:58:15 PM
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
This question can be only answered by a professional from the mental health sector. Your friend should be conducted to psychological treatment or therapy. There he can be helped to understand what is going on with him, and what mental mechanisms he can use to slowly switch off from these obsessive thoughts he developed regards gambling practice. It's important that family members and friends stay close and together in this moment, especially during the beginning of the treatment, which is the period of time the patient needs more attention and observation from the closest ones.

If he will remain like this forever or not, it will depend mainly on his self strength and will to change his conduct. If he doesn't cooperate, you can treat him intensively with the best professionals disponible on the market, that he won't show any positive results. What you can do since now is to encourage him to give up on gambling, inspiring him on how he can revert his current life's conditions if he chooses this path. Retrieving his business, house and family, or achieving new ones.

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March 25, 2024, 04:59:48 PM
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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.

It's a stage of addiction, not the fault of the addict, he's only undergoing a series of addictive levels. At a stage, the gambler will never want help from anybody, or think these people trust him. The addict's thoughts will revolve around him believing he'd achieve more in life than those people who try to help him stop gambling. However, at some point, he'd begin to have a rethink. What is most important is that he's getting a response from people. Not just letting him continue this way, when people talk to us about something they don't like us doing, it first hits us as though an insult. But to a non-addict, he'll only see it as the person's response and nothing else attached. That doesn't stop us from being friends.

An addict will see it as the opposite. He'd avoid the person and get aggressive whenever in touch with the person. Nobody addicts or not wants to get blamed. That's the fastest means of losing a friend. They are ways of changing people's minds other than just going straight to the point and laying blame on them. An addict can't get saved automatically. All these require a gradual process and must be followed gradually. They also deserve love; these people make up the world. The world can't be filled with perfect people. Sometimes I get offended when people tell me to go shave my hair. That doesn't mean it's a problem, but everyone has something they want to do without disturbing anyone else. Shoving it directly to the person's throat isn't right, they're a clever means of telling an addict to cut short his habit.

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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

Yes it is true that gambling addiction has its own level depending on how badly they treat gambling in the wrong way, or I mean depending on how aggressively they treat their gambling activities, and if you ask me about why they still continue their gambling activities when on the other hand they have lost all the valuable things in their lives such as large amounts of money, homes, businesses and families in my opinion it is simple that they have not been able to reach the level of awareness in themselves and also they have not been able to be in a situation to understand the fact that gambling is about winning and losing or gambling is a risky activity.

You only know a few of them where what you know is that a person who is addicted to gambling can turn back or stop and get out of the gambling zone while on the other hand there is a very chronic level of addiction where it is really very difficult for them to achieve self-awareness, they are still in a situation of not being able to let go of all that has been lost so they are still gambling which is where they have the goal of returning something that has been lost which is actually quite an impossible thing to achieve, because that action is like you are chasing your own shadow and I am sure that everything will still end up with significant regret.

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Gambling addiction are of different levels I guess Sad

And this one that I just witnessed is likely the most cruel one.

I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.

The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?
Some people just couldn't quit or break away from their addiction.
Not everyone could go back to their normal life after being addicted to something, I saw some who could restrain their self for some period of time, but they would eventually come back to their addiction.



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But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.


Like any other activity that makes a person feel good, gambling can lead to addiction.
Gambling can become addictive when it is used compulsively and becomes out of control.
Similar to alcohol and drug addiction, gambling addicts require more gambling over time to feel satisfied.
They prioritize getting what they want over what they need.
And the best way to overcome addiction is to seek help from a psychologist or psychiatrist.

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I have seen gamblers who are addicted to gambling fighting for their lives to stop or reduce their gambling activities but they can't, obviously they are addicted to gambling and struggling with it.
I feel bad for people like this, there are some people that are addicted to gambling, they really know about their addiction, and they are really trying to stop gambling, but it’s just kind of difficult for them. When addiction has eaten deep into you, even when you are trying to stop, it’s always difficult to stop.

But for the first time I happened to see someone who is a gambler and he was harmed because of gambling severally, fully in financial distress but instead of him to calm down and try to avoid what's harming him so badly, even after losing everything, he is still so desperate to continue.
When you realize your mistake, the next thing to do is how to find a solution to the mess you have caused, you shouldn’t keep on with the bad behavior. You have been harmed badly due to gambling addiction, you already know that you made a mistake by being addicted to gambling, then you should just stop gambling, if you keep on gambling, you are causing more harm to yourself.

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March 25, 2024, 08:00:21 PM
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

There would be no such thing as a gambling rehabilitation program or gambling-related problems if an addicted gambler could think properly.

Since these people can't think properly anymore, they don't know what's the best thing to do as they rely on gambling to solve anything.

We can blame that person for allowing themselves to be like that but in that critical and worst situation already that are stuck with, that's not important anymore as these people badly need help. It's the unfortunate reality that we can see anywhere in gambling.
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So, in short, what you're asking for OP is why he doesn't stop, even though he's feeling miserable because of it. It's very simple. This is a mechanism that exist in every other addictive activity, like drinking alcohol, playing computer games, watching movies, eating disorders. Why do fat people keep eating a lot even when they know that it's destroying their lives? Why do people with lung cancer continue to smoke? Addiction turns of the sane part of your brain. You ask if he's crazy and the answer is yes. Auto destructive activities are a sign of mental illness. At some point you won't be able to get back on your feet without some help from others. He needs help.

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March 25, 2024, 09:50:42 PM
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Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

There would be no such thing as a gambling rehabilitation program or gambling-related problems if an addicted gambler could think properly.

Since these people can't think properly anymore, they don't know what's the best thing to do as they rely on gambling to solve anything.

We can blame that person for allowing themselves to be like that but in that critical and worst situation already that are stuck with, that's not important anymore as these people badly need help. It's the unfortunate reality that we can see anywhere in gambling.
There is a rehabilitation programme for those who are addicted to something in general, meaning any addiction, drugs, gambling, and many more, in our country, even though it is not open or fully discussed. I know we do have establishments that offer rehab for those individuals that need help in terms of gambling, and I'd say I'm not sure if this thing is effective, but it's better than nothing, right? If there's a last resort, I think rehab is the best option in order for the gambler to minimise and slowly help him avoid or stop his gambling addiction. Personally,  I think this programme is going to help those people in deed for their addiction. As I said, rehabilitation centres here in my country are general.

Honestly, it's the fault of what the OP is saying; he is the one who is responsible for himself, which is why he is in that miserable position or situation.

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The way I am looking at him, he is behaving unstable, as if he is now mentally derailed, he can communicate but gambling is the next thing he want to do, this have cost him is home, business and family.

Where I am confused is that why won't he stopped already? Those that are addicted to gambling that i knew get to this same level of losing everything and they make a U-turn in the end, what is keeping him imprisoned ? His mind? or he is already crazy? Or even a spiritual attack?

I think it's as he hasn't realized that he's addicted to gambling, some individual don't know that they're addicted to gambling until it's too late for them to stop but some others come to their senses and they try to stop gambling as they have known that it's what is responsible for the unfortunate life that they're having. Gambling addiction is dangerous as you might think that you're gambling like others but you're not and you're in debts as you already have borrowed to gamble.

Sometime Gambling addiction can do more damage to you than only making you to lose money. Some addition also affects the gamblers mindset and it can make them to become abnormal in their thinking and they'll begin to do things like a mad individual. Gambling addiction has different phrases, you might have seen one of the worst cases of addiction. Some individual go as far as to sell everything to gamble.



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March 25, 2024, 10:45:55 PM
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I'm guessing that the person you're talking about is still desperate to recover all his losses and can't think of any other ways to get it. What you've seen is probably the second to the highest level of addiction. The worst I've witnessed are the ones who steal money so they could continue to fund their gambling.
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I agree with this, where there is a gambling addict who is aware of his bad behavior, and aware of the losses he has experienced, but he cannot abandon this activity, someone who experiences this kind of addiction can still be saved. However, there is also a gambling addict who is actually not aware of his bad behavior in gambling, does not realize the losses he has experienced, and when someone tries to make him aware, the gambling addict continues to avoid him and continues to look for reasons to justify his bad behavior in gambling. and for people who suffer from this kind of addiction, it will be quite difficult for them to realize and recover from the addiction they are experiencing, even though they have received support from those closest to them. It is not uncommon for gambling addicts to disappoint the people who are close to them, the people who are sincere in helping them get out of their addiction. And it is possible that the addict will become aware of his addiction only when he has truly lost everything, including losing the people close to him.
Yes to the general notion of being able to be redeemed from the addiction, but the major work still rely on the addict himself wether or not they ready to change to move over they addiction level, this is very important because that is the point they going to begin from, sometimes if the addicted person himself has not acknowledge the impact of addiction on they general well being, there can not been any impact of effort of another third party that can save them from the whole thing.


First there must be the will spirit in the addict that will place him alone a position of possible excape since he is already determine to quit gambling.

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March 25, 2024, 11:23:18 PM
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It's really tough seeing how gambling addiction can hit people differently and what you described is just heartbreaking. Some people just can't seem to break free from it even when it's cost them everything. Addiction's a real beast because it messes with your head and makes it hard to see straight. Sometimes it's not just about willpower, there could be a whole bunch of stuff going on in their lives making it hard to quit. Maybe they're dealing with other issues like depression or anxiety or they just feel stuck in a cycle they can't break. It's tough to watch but reaching out and offering support could make all the difference. Encouraging them to get professional help or join a support group might be a good idea, it's all about showing them they're not alone and there's a way out of this mess

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That's bound to happen when things become a mess in your life and it's because of your addiction, you don't know anyone and what they truly are capable of until they show it to you, that's why when things become worse for you especially if you've been asking for loans from a lot of people and you use those loans to gamble hoping to get that win you've been looking for a while now, you're bound to meet the person that would rather hurt you than wait for you to payback the loan, they know or assume that you won't pay it anymore, so they might as well get back on you by hurting you. It shouldn't come that far but things will escalate especially if you don't do anything about it.

Definitely cruel and I hope that person is alright after all that hurt that he's been through, I hope that it's a lesson for everyone of us too, that things will get worse and we have the power to not go to that point.

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Gambling is very bad. I have also experienced someone keeping his family out of food for months because of gambling just his wife struggling to make sure she feeds the children or he does go to work gamble drink and come home the next day go to work gamble drink and come home each time he takes his payment 95% is going for gambling 5% is maybe for other things he don’t even care about his family anymore gambling has taken over him. He always have this mindset of getting back or he has lost in gambling, which is not possible when looking at it because he is not gambling wisely yes, this really happened you are right.



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