Buidling a New Crash Game with Community Experience

[markbit]

Hello everyone,

This is Mark. This is my first BitcoinTalk account while being fully aware of what I'm doing. When I was younger and first encountered Bitcoin, I opened an account here but honestly, I can't remember my username, password, or any seed phrases at all!

Before I dive in, let me tell you a quick story. I first met Bitcoin around 2014 or 2015 while trying to convince my dad to buy me a new laptop for playing GTA V.

Back then, I suggested we invest in this virtual currency, but my dad shut it down completely. He said it was a scam and a waste of money. Needless to say, I dropped the whole idea and forgot about it for a while. Thanks, Dad (although ironically, he's now a successful crypto trader himself – guess it's a twist of fate!).

Anyway, time flew by, and Bitcoin slipped from my mind until the 2017 bull run. I was getting my driver's license when the owner of the driving school mentioned wanting to buy Bitcoin but had no clue how. That reignited my interest in the crypto world. This little interaction became a turning point – I dove deep into the industry, researched how to buy crypto, learned about exchanges, wallets, and everything in between. And guess what? We bought Bitcoin for him, not for me. That's why I'm not rolling in dough right now.

Then came the bear market, the pandemic, and more. Bitcoin faded from my mind again until early 2021. I was in my final year of university and going through a bad breakup. My gf has cheated me and that moment To keep my mind occupied, I decided to learn about financial analysis and the crypto industry. After that year, I absorbed a ton of information – from the rise of memecoins, shitcoins and rug pulls to the highs of tokens like MAT, catecoin and the lows of losing it all on futures trading. While learning, I even started working for a couple of reputable crypto companies. Then I started to work alone alone alone then, one more company and then one more company and then one one…

Okay, you might be thinking, "Why are you telling us all this?" Here's the point:

Last month, while playing Bustabit, I had a realization (and it's a big one!). Everyone wants to get rich quickly and easily. That's why gambling is so popular – it preys on that desire.

Now, I've known about Bustabit for a year or two. It's a place I go to unwind sometimes. For instance, just last week, I lost around $10k on futures trading. But before that loss, I actually turned $250 into nearly $5,000 on Bustabit by playing patiently. As I was doing this, I told myself I'd keep playing patiently and turn it into $100,000. However, after losing that $10k, I went back to Bustabit and the guy who play very patiently, very calm, very relax start to play with 5000bit 5000bit and lost all of the money.

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

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[SamReomo]

Your story is strange and the losses are even more strange, however it's not bad idea to built up your own game but I would say that it would be a costly investment for you. Entering the gambling industry isn't an easy thing because there's a lot of competition in online gambling world.

Even if you get success in making your crash game then still you won't be able to get enough players who may play that game. I would suggest you to have enough money for adverting if you want to gain first players of your game because without proper adverting no body would know about your game and it would be a waste of time to build something that no body knows about.

[yahoo62278]

Honesty, communication, promotion, trustworthy, fair, no KYC, active in the community and here on the forum. I'm sure I could go on with more, but these are the basics. Most of these you will not achieve in 1 day either. It takes months/years to build trust in this community.

[Kemarit]

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

It's a combination, there are gamblers who look at the design, it must be unique and different user feel. As for the trustworthy and reputation, not going to be easy, competition are tough in gambling and so you really need to look at every questions, doubts and answer it here and satisfy your question. And it might take years to build it. Those casinos right now that is well-known started slow and built their reputation from ground up. At least 4 years as majority of them born out of the pandemic and yet they are still standing.

And you need to hire the right personnel as well, maybe get those who has the experience to be a support staff or be in the fraud department catching cheaters. And your ToS should also be a consideration, as it needs to be clear. License as well is a must, you will be criticize if you don't have one in the beginning.

[famososMuertos]

I think we need real people, and real players, especially in these days where words, feelings and experiences are really artificial.(Al)

I think we can create a game where he guesses the player's thoughts;

.1.={¥} Real experience
 .2.={¥} Artificial experience.

 It would be an "innovative" game.

#TPT AI.

[seoincorporation]

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Hello markbit.

Creating your own gambling engine isn't an easy task, It takes me a long time to develop my software and i would hardly recommend not starting from cero, you could buy software and use that as a base for your project. If you want more info about my gambling software please read my thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489928.0

I don't have Crash, but i offer dice, and is almost the same... The user selects the multiplier and places the bet.

[RocketSingh]

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While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

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Which software stack do you plan to build your game on? Will it run on PHP-MySQL shared hosting? Can you do it without any dependency on Node.js?

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I think real bet players appreciate a platform that feels more like a club than just a casino, so what matters to them is the experience, they want a visually appealing game, and a clean and user-friendly interface is a must.  The gameplay should keep them on the edge of their seats, fast-paced and thrilling, and being able to play on the go is a big plus, mobile friendly.

For the crash game idea, it is important the full transparency about the game's mechanics and the house edge. A system where players can verify the fairness of each round builds trust. No one wants to think the game is rigged. Being able to get winnings out fast and easily is a big deal. Nothing's worse than waiting forever for a payout. And leaderboards, chat, and rain features can make the game more social and exciting.

[markbit]

Your story is strange and the losses are even more strange, however it's not bad idea to built up your own game but I would say that it would be a costly investment for you. Entering the gambling industry isn't an easy thing because there's a lot of competition in online gambling world.

Even if you get success in making your crash game then still you won't be able to get enough players who may play that game. I would suggest you to have enough money for adverting if you want to gain first players of your game because without proper adverting no body would know about your game and it would be a waste of time to build something that no body knows about.

Yesterday, I had a meeting with my friends from Asia, and they echoed your sentiments precisely. The gambling industry is indeed challenging to break into. Cost.
As for advertising, I might seek investment from family friends. However, initially, I plan to fund the venture myself. I prefer not to involve major investors at the outset, as I have strong connections across the globe. I actively participate in major events within the crypto industry and will be attending Token2049 in Dubai next month, followed by Singapore in September. And more.

[markbit]

Honesty, communication, promotion, trustworthy, fair, no KYC, active in the community and here on the forum. I'm sure I could go on with more, but these are the basics. Most of these you will not achieve in 1 day either. It takes months/years to build trust in this community.

During my tenure with three crypto projects set to launch on the largest IDO platform, I spearheaded community development and gained insight into their unique challenges. While in those projects, my identity was transparent, but in this case about betting, anonymity prevails. Crucially, our product will prioritize reliability, provable fairness, and no KYC requirements. I aim to navigate potential legal concerns meticulously. I don't want to get caught if there is any legal issue

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

It's a combination, there are gamblers who look at the design, it must be unique and different user feel. As for the trustworthy and reputation, not going to be easy, competition are tough in gambling and so you really need to look at every questions, doubts and answer it here and satisfy your question. And it might take years to build it. Those casinos right now that is well-known started slow and built their reputation from ground up. At least 4 years as majority of them born out of the pandemic and yet they are still standing.

And you need to hire the right personnel as well, maybe get those who has the experience to be a support staff or be in the fraud department catching cheaters. And your ToS should also be a consideration, as it needs to be clear. License as well is a must, you will be criticize if you don't have one in the beginning.

I'm currently attempting to contact the Crypto Gambling Foundation regarding licensing. As for the UI/UX, I have a different product concept in mind . Otherwise, I might opt for something similar like Bustabit, although I won't be utilizing Bitcoin for gameplay.

I think we need real people, and real players, especially in these days where words, feelings and experiences are really artificial.(Al)

I think we can create a game where he guesses the player's thoughts;

.1.={¥} Real experience
 .2.={¥} Artificial experience.

 It would be an "innovative" game.

#TPT AI.

AI is the good idea I added my notes that how can we use it for our users? For example; on Bustabit there is a backtesting, I have one friends interesting about datasets to train AI. This is good idea I will check it out how we can use?

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Hello markbit.

Creating your own gambling engine isn't an easy task, It takes me a long time to develop my software and i would hardly recommend not starting from cero, you could buy software and use that as a base for your project. If you want more info about my gambling software please read my thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489928.0

I don't have Crash, but i offer dice, and is almost the same... The user selects the multiplier and places the bet.

I will read it and get back to you. Software and DB side are the most important things for me. I am researching about new hashing method for DB encryption.

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While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

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Which software stack do you plan to build your game on? Will it run on PHP-MySQL shared hosting? Can you do it without any dependency on Node.js?

Considering my limited experience in software engineering, I'm still in the process of exploring various options. While I'm capable of coding independently, I'm uncertain if PHP and MySQL are the most suitable choices for my current endeavor. But node.js is good for me.

I think real bet players appreciate a platform that feels more like a club than just a casino, so what matters to them is the experience, they want a visually appealing game, and a clean and user-friendly interface is a must.  The gameplay should keep them on the edge of their seats, fast-paced and thrilling, and being able to play on the go is a big plus, mobile friendly.

For the crash game idea, it is important the full transparency about the game's mechanics and the house edge. A system where players can verify the fairness of each round builds trust. No one wants to think the game is rigged. Being able to get winnings out fast and easily is a big deal. Nothing's worse than waiting forever for a payout. And leaderboards, chat, and rain features can make the game more social and exciting.

Thank you for your feedback. My vision is to provide users with an authentic casino experience through an immersive online platform. Transparency is paramount to me; to ensure the success of the platform, it must prioritize fairness and openness.
In the first phase, I'm planning to put money to gambling vault along with developing streamlined methods for contributions.

Coming from a business development background, I'm confident in my ability to analyze user needs and address them effectively. However, before proceeding, I plan to engage with the BitcoinTalk community to gather insights and feedback.

Key elements include ensuring fair gameplay (using Provably Fair technology), no KYC requirements, intuitive and diverse UI/UX design, creating an immersive casino-like atmosphere, implementing unique user experiences, ensuring smooth gameplay without lags or freezes, and establishing transparency. Additionally, I aim to institute a DAO-like structure for auditing purposes, where an independent body can scrutinize operations and hold me accountable.

[aioc]

Key elements include ensuring fair gameplay (using Provably Fair technology), no KYC requirements, intuitive and diverse UI/UX design, creating an immersive casino-like atmosphere, implementing unique user experiences, ensuring smooth gameplay without lags or freezes, and establishing transparency. Additionally, I aim to institute a DAO-like structure for auditing purposes, where an independent body can scrutinize operations and hold me accountable.

It's good to have this goal in mind but planning is very different from the actual model and you will encounter the difference once you are running a casino, the no KYC is one of the tricky parts, if you're serious about launching your online casino, talk to experts and those who have experience in running their casino.
Your experience as a player is good but it will only contribute a small portion on how to effectively profitably run a casino.
The goal of casino operators is to serve their gambling community and at the same time make a profit and be competitive and sustainable.

[markbit]

Key elements include ensuring fair gameplay (using Provably Fair technology), no KYC requirements, intuitive and diverse UI/UX design, creating an immersive casino-like atmosphere, implementing unique user experiences, ensuring smooth gameplay without lags or freezes, and establishing transparency. Additionally, I aim to institute a DAO-like structure for auditing purposes, where an independent body can scrutinize operations and hold me accountable.

It's good to have this goal in mind but planning is very different from the actual model and you will encounter the difference once you are running a casino, the no KYC is one of the tricky parts, if you're serious about launching your online casino, talk to experts and those who have experience in running their casino.
Your experience as a player is good but it will only contribute a small portion on how to effectively profitably run a casino.
The goal of casino operators is to serve their gambling community and at the same time make a profit and be competitive and sustainable.

If we made decentralized it, what potential outcomes could arise? As a non-US citizen not intending to establish a company, am I at risk of facing legal issues? My aim is to create a decentralized, anonymous, fast, reliable, and highly user-friendly system.

Additionally, I feel confident in my mathematical abilities from my university education, I recognize the value of having advisory support.

[Haunebu]

I understood your intentions op, but you need to prepare yourself mentally since building a successful crash based crypto gambling site these days is very, very tough thanks to so much competition.

Your crash game needs to provide something extremely unique and appealing in order to attract and retain many gamblers in the long-term.

[TheUltraElite]

I appreciate your enthusiasm but running a site like Bustabit or any other crash game needs a lot of dedication more like a full time job from your side. You are willing to slog on that then by all means go ahead with it using your current job if any as the method to fund this project.

If your game is fair, your team is responsive and level-headed with minimal restrictions to most countries you will manage to get a crowd good enough to fund your crash game for years. With the proper marketing on different platforms it will surely attract the gamblers.

I would definitely invest in it, like I am currently on Bustabit and was previously on now defunct MoneyPot, so do keep me posted.

[markbit]

I understood your intentions op, but you need to prepare yourself mentally since building a successful crash based crypto gambling site these days is very, very tough thanks to so much competition.

Your crash game needs to provide something extremely unique and appealing in order to attract and retain many gamblers in the long-term.

Yeah, I'm personally interested in adding a different UI experience. However, if I cannot find one, I will follow Bustabit's lead, not like Aviator or Zeplin, etc. Bustabit is easy and smooth. One of my focuses is creating a different UI. Thank you for your feedback. It will be very beneficial for my project.

I appreciate your enthusiasm but running a site like Bustabit or any other crash game needs a lot of dedication more like a full time job from your side. You are willing to slog on that then by all means go ahead with it using your current job if any as the method to fund this project.

If your game is fair, your team is responsive and level-headed with minimal restrictions to most countries you will manage to get a crowd good enough to fund your crash game for years. With the proper marketing on different platforms it will surely attract the gamblers.

I would definitely invest in it, like I am currently on Bustabit and was previously on now defunct MoneyPot, so do keep me posted.

Hey, thank you for your feedback. One of the motivations is to bring people here from all over the world without any limitation. About fairness, fairness is the most important thing. Otherwise, everything will be for nothing.

Regarding investment, I will definitely keep in touch. If you are an investor, sometimes your knowledge might be more important than the money and so on.

Again, thank you for your precious thoughts and feedback.

[shield132]

Okay, you might be thinking, "Why are you telling us all this?" Here's the point:

Last month, while playing Bustabit, I had a realization (and it's a big one!). Everyone wants to get rich quickly and easily. That's why gambling is so popular – it preys on that desire.

Now, I've known about Bustabit for a year or two. It's a place I go to unwind sometimes. For instance, just last week, I lost around $10k on futures trading. But before that loss, I actually turned $250 into nearly $5,000 on Bustabit by playing patiently. As I was doing this, I told myself I'd keep playing patiently and turn it into $100,000. However, after losing that $10k, I went back to Bustabit and the guy who play very patiently, very calm, very relax start to play with 5000bit 5000bit and lost all of the money.

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

Are you sure that you can make a competitive product? There are too advanced players on the market, for example take the group that created Aviator. There is a huge, successful and experienced team behind this crash game and many casinos have already bought their product, it will be very hard to beat them.
Bustabit is also a business that generates a profit of 1 bitcoin per day, are you sure that you can beat a website with that much profit? I think it will be impossible to do alone but it's possible to beat them if you manage to create a team of very high professionals.
Btw bustabit is as fair as currently possible. If someone loses against a casino, that doesn't mean that the game is rigged.

[markbit]

Okay, you might be thinking, "Why are you telling us all this?" Here's the point:

Last month, while playing Bustabit, I had a realization (and it's a big one!). Everyone wants to get rich quickly and easily. That's why gambling is so popular – it preys on that desire.

Now, I've known about Bustabit for a year or two. It's a place I go to unwind sometimes. For instance, just last week, I lost around $10k on futures trading. But before that loss, I actually turned $250 into nearly $5,000 on Bustabit by playing patiently. As I was doing this, I told myself I'd keep playing patiently and turn it into $100,000. However, after losing that $10k, I went back to Bustabit and the guy who play very patiently, very calm, very relax start to play with 5000bit 5000bit and lost all of the money.

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

Are you sure that you can make a competitive product? There are too advanced players on the market, for example take the group that created Aviator. There is a huge, successful and experienced team behind this crash game and many casinos have already bought their product, it will be very hard to beat them.
Bustabit is also a business that generates a profit of 1 bitcoin per day, are you sure that you can beat a website with that much profit? I think it will be impossible to do alone but it's possible to beat them if you manage to create a team of very high professionals.
Btw bustabit is as fair as currently possible. If someone loses against a casino, that doesn't mean that the game is rigged.

Yeah, totally agree with you. I know the competition's tough. They got the smarts, they got the cash. They could probably whip up what's in my plans in a week if they wanted. Ain't saying it's gonna be a cakewalk, but hey, you gotta start somewhere. And I'm all about giving the people what they want: a system that's solid, smooth, fair and excited system.

I have different product ideas that will be embedded on the crash page. This will be a differentiation for me.

Thank you for your precious feedback.

[Dunamisx]

This is my first BitcoinTalk account while being fully aware of what I'm doing.

This is how we sometimes fail an exam right before it started, who is asking you about this that you're talking about, who even cares, it could have been better if we know how to go straights to the point than beating around the bush for something being unnecessary.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

Ones it comes to community experience, each person has his own persona way of how he see gambling and how he also go into it in proper, we need to understand all these and go for what we want and not by want others are saying.

[markbit]

This is my first BitcoinTalk account while being fully aware of what I'm doing.

This is how we sometimes fail an exam right before it started, who is asking you about this that you're talking about, who even cares, it could have been better if we know how to go straights to the point than beating around the bush for something being unnecessary.

Why I’m writing these words, cause I’m wondering the real bet players thoughts and what is the important for them? In here, I would like buidl with community experience not casino experience.

Ones it comes to community experience, each person has his own persona way of how he see gambling and how he also go into it in proper, we need to understand all these and go for what we want and not by want others are saying.

Certainly, perhaps you are correct. I appreciate your perspective. However, before I proceed with expressing my desires, I feel it's important to provide some context about my background. If discussing this topic would inconvenience you, it's possible it may not be suitable for our conversation.

However, I want to clarify that I'm not pessimistic; rather, I consider myself optimistic and realistic. That's why I value collaboration over a 'know-it-all' mentality.

Thank you for your feedback.

[seoincorporation]

While my loss wasn't huge in the grand scheme of things, it taught me a valuable lesson: I want to create my own fair, reliable, and ultimately the best game ever. Yo, that loss stung, but hey, it ain't the end of the world. Now I'm fired up to build my own game, one that's straight-up fair. Fairness? Check. Trustworthy? Duh. And the user experience? Gonna be smoothest thing this side of butter.

Hello markbit.

Creating your own gambling engine isn't an easy task, It takes me a long time to develop my software and i would hardly recommend not starting from cero, you could buy software and use that as a base for your project. If you want more info about my gambling software please read my thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5489928.0

I don't have Crash, but i offer dice, and is almost the same... The user selects the multiplier and places the bet.

I will read it and get back to you. Software and DB side are the most important things for me. I am researching about new hashing method for DB encryption.

You don't have to encrypt the full database, only things like the user's passwords. And for that, you need a seed. sha256(UserPassword+ServerSeed)=Encripted password.

For the crash game the provably fair used to work with the sha of the sha... let's say you start with the sha256 of "hello world", you will get: b94d27b9934d3e08a52e52d7da7dabfac484efe37a5380ee9088f7ace2efcde9

Then you sha the sha multiple times...

b94d27b9934d3e08a52e52d7da7dabfac484efe37a5380ee9088f7ace2efcde9 Bet 10000
049da052634feb56ce6ec0bc648c672011edff1cb272b53113bbc90a8f00249c Bet 9999
768101f4bf5d7046a5b6257859df058c0468f5b5a7ebfdc251c88b1f16b0e8ef Bet 9998
....

And that's how you build the database for the next rolls. You can sha the sha 1 million times to have the next million rolls already on the DB, and if you want to make it more secure, then you mix that sha with a seed.

To decide the result of the bet you could take the last 4 digits of the hash and have those limits from FFFF (max multiplier) to 0000 (instant lose or x0)